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Kinet Frog Steamers 13	Posted - 2012.10.04 16:25:00 - [91] - Quote I'm in the non-PS3 camp. I dont own a PS3 and I'm not buying one just to play DUST. If I cant play it, why should I have any interest in it? There is a part of me that is a bit mad that CCP decided to make DUST for the PS3 instead of the PC where their playerbase is. On the other hand, I understand it is easier to code for the PS3 and its standard hardware than it is to code for a PC game and the gazillion different hardware devices it may have so I can see both sides of that arguement and I understand why it was made. I am disappointed in the lack of interaction that DUST will have with EVE. It would be awesome if you could send in some DUST players to blow up a POS or have some real impact in PVP rather than just PI. Some ideas that are probably not going to make it in but would also be cool: 1. DUST players could setup a planetary beacon that shows specific corp/alliance ships on the tactical map even if they are out of targeting range. 2. DUST players could setup some planetary monitoring device to show how many corp/alliance ships are in a specific system so a rival could decide where and when to attack. Might eliminate the need for cloaked scouts 3. Alliances could pay DUST players to defend or guard systems or attack the structures mentioned above 4. DUST players could build a planetary weapon to shoot some kind of doomsday thing once per 24 hours. Imagine you send in a DUST group to build it so its ready on the eve of your invasion into someones territory. You get the idea, some real interaction between the games.
Jim Era 4148	Posted - 2012.10.04 16:31:00 - [92] - Quote o.o why are posts disappearing in this thread

ISD TYPE40 ISD Community Communications Liaisons 1430	Posted - 2012.10.04 16:39:00 - [93] - Quote Jim Era wrote: o.o why are posts disappearing in this thread Posts have been removed because they were in breach of forum rules. Making personal attacks, posting rumours and anything else that is against the rules will pretty much ensure that said post is removed and/or edited. This is done in order to try and keep some semblance of a discussion going, rather than allowing it to degrade into petty personal arguments or ending with the thread being locked. Decent, sensible discussion is openly welcomed here, and everyone is entitled to their opinions. What they are not "entitled" to is hurling personal insults at other players or CCP and their staff. So lets see if we can continue with this topic sans the rule breaking ISD Type40 Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department

Brooks Puuntai Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 825	Posted - 2012.10.04 16:45:00 - [94] - Quote Don't care about Dust514, while personally I don't feel its the best route, but thats CCPs prerogative. However I don't like how they slap their Eve playerbase in the face by not only making it console only but also that it can/will have a direct impact on Eve.
Sarah Schneider PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore 1569	Posted - 2012.10.04 18:03:00 - [95] - Quote Quite excited, even when I don't play it myself, imo. Dust will either be : - The rise of Eve, a huge influx of new players, exciting new stuff will happen in Eve... if it is successful - A major loss for both (not just DUST itself) if it is actually crappy or not enough people actually play the game, even scarier since CCP seemed to have committed a major amount of resources and investment for the development "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer
Tanaka Aiko ICE is Coming to EVE Goonswarm Federation 118	Posted - 2012.10.04 18:04:00 - [96] - Quote I won't be able to play it as it's on PS3, while I would have liked to. First plans don't integrate nullsec, so I don't really see what it will give us, while if the game fail, it could be pretty bad for CCP and so EVE. And I don't think it will works out, too much others FPS to compete with. And last thing, thinking about Dust make me remember the incarnagate time, and so give me a bad feeling.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 2527	Posted - 2012.10.04 18:10:00 - [97] - Quote Revajin wrote: Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: SmilingVagrant wrote: It's coming out at the same time Planetside 2 is. So. Guess which one is going to be better. Is Planetside 2 also completely free? Yes. Yes it is. Well then I imagine it will be better, until Sony kills it by doing something stupid "A genius throws a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that he's going to die choking in a maze of smoke and flame. A hero drinks a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that if he does a split in midair, he can hit twice as many zombies per kick. Drunk hero wins again, wusses." ~Cracked.com
Cerebral Wolf GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26	Posted - 2012.10.04 21:21:00 - [98] - Quote Jim Era wrote: Roll Sizzle Beef wrote: Gawd. Now dare this beta group you via corp due to location on earth to have better testing experience. Or be limited to specific suit mixtures so people wont be spread out over a bunch of redundant suits when you only need to test the base scout suit stats rather than caldari scout, minmitar scout, amarr scout... Minmitars only race to have and be logi? Yeah, that's going to happen. Even after launch I doubt all the art will be provided. The only buildings anyone has seen in Dust are Caldari. Why? Because art is not gameplay. The only thing to really be concerned about is weapons. Don't think they are going for a sidearm/med/heavy weapon system for every race for default setups. Yet its as complete as EvE 1.0 was. So there are still tons of things to add later. I think too many treat it as a normal title that is tossed out at 90% feature complete then wait for DLC to complete it. It's really more like 20% feature complete and hope to see it expanded on for the next 5-8 years. I don't care what it looks like. Just call it dropsuit instead of Gallente...I was stating it ruined the EVE feel. Why would an Amarr loyalist be caught wearing their enemies uniform? Also, Dust only has art so far. The game play is less pleasurable than sticking barbed wire up your ****. Because everything's not implemented yet that's why. You really are way off base to be complaining and condemning the game in its entirety from a RP point of view just because somethings not been put into the beta yet. CCP have stated in interviews that every race will have its own vehicles, weapons and drop suits.
Cerebral Wolf GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26	Posted - 2012.10.04 21:29:00 - [99] - Quote Kinet wrote: I I am disappointed in the lack of interaction that DUST will have with EVE. It would be awesome if you could send in some DUST players to blow up a POS or have some real impact in PVP rather than just PI. Some ideas that are probably not going to make i The lack of interaction is only based around what's been officially announced for launch, how do you know these features won't be put in at some point in the future? Why do you assume PI will be the only thing affected? That's just very closed minded in my opinion and seems to a pretty consistent theme among the posts in this thread, people are only concerned about EVE because its all they know, or they don't have a PS3 and feel that bashing CCP is the way to correct it. Not a very good number of people seem to be considering the possibilitys this could bring and are not looking at the big picture which is ironic considering EVE is all about the big picture unless you're all only interested in mining in your little belts and i hope that's not the case. @ISD TYPE40: I would appreciate it if you didn't delete any rumors or speculation, it's kinda the whole point of the thread.
Logan LaMort Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo 1270	Posted - 2012.10.04 21:40:00 - [100] - Quote Although it's still needs a lot of polishing, DUST in its current state is fun, addictive and quite intense. I'm surprised just how good it is to be honest, and just how much it's improved during the beta. The release version should be awesome, and although it might not be as popular as COD or Halo, I can see it still having a big following.

Rellik B00n Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 157	Posted - 2012.10.04 23:42:00 - [101] - Quote I tested it but left with the same thoughts i went into it with: Its a little like C&C Renegade (could have been great but wasnt and only appealed to a small niche market) - great concept and similar gameplay. Its worth noting that C&C Renegade killed the software house that produced the C&C series and allowed EA the leverage to take the franchise over, follwed swiftly by EA going all EA with it and killing that side of the game also! Is this a fair comparison with Dust? Possibly, it depends entirely on how much CCP have invested in Dust but: #tinfoil: Sony releasing Planetside. If CCP crashes and burns on Dust, Sony step in, buy CCP, close CCP, sell more Planetside!! Hehe. on a more serious note im too old to learn how to shoot people with a console pad. Give me mouse and keyboard everyday. I represent my generation id say. The younger guys that can happily headshot you 2000 yards away with a ps3 pad......well these people LIKE modern warfare 2 and 3. They have no concept of a high quality shooter. They want a perk that fires a nuclear bomb killing eveyone on the map and a perk that helicoptors in a support team for them or DAMMIT they just wont play. I found the game appealing but I would only play it on PC. If it impacts too much on the EvE playerbase? My answer there would be go look at the monument in Jita: these are not players you want to anger heh. qfmjt-1
Selinate 1036	Posted - 2012.10.05 00:14:00 - [102] - Quote I think a lot of the players here who have tried dust and say it's not good or it's going to fail or something to that effect should go back and try the newest build. It just came out a few days ago. I could completely understand thinking the game was terrible based off of any of the older builds, because they were awful messes. The newest one is MUCH better.
Garresh Deep Axion Ushra'Khan 55	Posted - 2012.10.05 01:03:00 - [103] - Quote Probably not gonna buy a PS3 just to play it, but I'm still looking forward to it. Hope it does well.
Gilbaron Free-Space-Ranger Ev0ke 358	Posted - 2012.10.05 01:04:00 - [104] - Quote Rellik B00n wrote: on a more serious note im too old to learn how to shoot people with a console pad. Give me mouse and keyboard everyday. I represent my generation id say. The younger guys that can happily headshot you 2000 yards away with a ps3 pad......well these people LIKE modern warfare 2 and 3. They have no concept of a high quality shooter. They want a perk that fires a nuclear bomb killing eveyone on the map and a perk that helicoptors in a support team for them or DAMMIT they just wont play. I found the game appealing but I would only play it on PC. how about plugging your keyboard and mouse in your playstation to play dust ? kb/m support is already in the game, support is not perfect at this point, but dust514 is still in a very very beta state, currently missing a lot of the promised features. I have written several hundred words about my experience in the dust beta so far. but i decided to cut them and leave you with a few sentences i have seen only two games in an equally unfinished state, minecraft and dayZ. you all know how big minecraft is now, and how it got so extremely successful. it offers unique gameplay and a development team listening to the constructive part of the community. and you all know the tremendous potential of dayZ in an engine not as terrible as Arma2 and with an actual development team behind it. dust will be a big thing if CCP handles it correctly. it currently looks like that
Kinet Frog Steamers 13	Posted - 2012.10.05 01:57:00 - [105] - Quote Cerebral Wolf wrote: Kinet wrote: I I am disappointed in the lack of interaction that DUST will have with EVE. It would be awesome if you could send in some DUST players to blow up a POS or have some real impact in PVP rather than just PI. Some ideas that are probably not going to make i The lack of interaction is only based around what's been officially announced for launch, how do you know these features won't be put in at some point in the future? Why do you assume PI will be the only thing affected? That's just very closed minded in my opinion and seems to a pretty consistent theme among the posts in this thread, people are only concerned about EVE because its all they know, or they don't have a PS3 and feel that bashing CCP is the way to correct it. Not a very good number of people seem to be considering the possibilitys this could bring and are not looking at the big picture which is ironic considering EVE is all about the big picture unless you're all only interested in mining in your little belts and i hope that's not the case. @ISD TYPE40: I would appreciate it if you didn't delete any rumors or speculation, it's kinda the whole point of the thread. I just want to thank you for asking for my honest opinion and then telling me I'm closed minded because I only include what CCP has announced rather than what might come in a few years. Are you sure you are asking for opinions or are you tryng to tell us what our opinion should be?
Vertisce Soritenshi Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 1751	Posted - 2012.10.05 02:57:00 - [106] - Quote Bart Starr wrote: I plan to provide plenty of negative fan reviews on gaming sites. And I don't even own a console. So in short you are an admitted ignorant liar and don't care? You would rather slander a product out of deliberate ignorance simply because you can? I don't understand the rational people like you work with. It doesn't make any sense at all that you would care so much about something you hate to slander it without ever even trying it... Anyway...illogical hatred aside...I have my problems with the game but mostly because its in beta. DUST is unique in gameplay and has several new ideas being brought to the table that have never been done before. I have a sinking feeling that it will not succeed but I honestly hope it does. There are a few things I wish it did but nothing that will break the game. I wish it were on PC but understand why it isn't. I want to see it succeed and grow EVE to a new level. Tolerance, education and understanding for the win. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX!
Cerebral Wolf GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 27	Posted - 2012.10.05 10:55:00 - [107] - Quote Kinet wrote: Cerebral Wolf wrote: Kinet wrote: I I am disappointed in the lack of interaction that DUST will have with EVE. It would be awesome if you could send in some DUST players to blow up a POS or have some real impact in PVP rather than just PI. Some ideas that are probably not going to make i The lack of interaction is only based around what's been officially announced for launch, how do you know these features won't be put in at some point in the future? Why do you assume PI will be the only thing affected? That's just very closed minded in my opinion and seems to a pretty consistent theme among the posts in this thread, people are only concerned about EVE because its all they know, or they don't have a PS3 and feel that bashing CCP is the way to correct it. Not a very good number of people seem to be considering the possibilitys this could bring and are not looking at the big picture which is ironic considering EVE is all about the big picture unless you're all only interested in mining in your little belts and i hope that's not the case. @ISD TYPE40: I would appreciate it if you didn't delete any rumors or speculation, it's kinda the whole point of the thread. I just want to thank you for asking for my honest opinion and then telling me I'm closed minded because I only include what CCP has announced rather than what might come in a few years. Are you sure you are asking for opinions or are you tryng to tell us what our opinion should be? I'm trying to spark an actual discussion and get more peoples well thought out answers rather than single line "hurr its not on PC" replys.
Altessa Post Midnight special super sexy 0	Posted - 2012.10.05 11:47:00 - [108] - Quote Although I am not a typical console player, I would be curious about playing Dust. I can easily afford another console on a whim. That is not the obstacle. However, as a tech person I feel very uncomfortable with Sony. There was no other corp which betrayed its customers on such scale like Sony did with its rootkit. Ever since, I have avoided products from Sony. Memory lane: http://www.wired.com/politics/security/commentary/securitymatters/2005/11/69601?currentPage=all
Jenna MarieIV 103rd Industries 0	Posted - 2012.10.05 12:01:00 - [109] - Quote Hmm. Well, I'm interested in dust. I don't own a console, haven't in more than a decade... but I could get one any time I felt like it. I've thought about it, would want to see more of the game before I dropped the money though. It sounds like it has a lot of potential. Honestly though, I don't get why they don't have a PC version in addition to the ps3 version. That seems totally bizarre to me. Now when I feel in the mood for some mmofpsing I go play planetside 2 when I could have played dust. The ps3 exclusive is a bad idea with no logic that could stand up to an attack. The "lose eve players to dust" argument is obviously wrong. Different games scratch different itches. What they are losing is more than a few potential dust players on PC to planetside 2. Its just wrong minded I boggle trying to think of the reason for this. That said, I like the idea of the ground and space stuff potentially interacting. If/when the ground stuff becomes more integrated into the overall universe I can't help but thinking that sounds damn cool. I wonder if someday they'll even have cross platform corps. It'd be neat to have a party of marines on hand, if I had something to so do with them. So yeah, we'll see.
Dasola Rookie Empire Citizens Rookie Empire 60	Posted - 2012.10.05 12:05:00 - [110] - Quote Bring my slave... Soldiers forward so i may send them to die.... Win glorious battles on my behalf. My Dustbunnies, go and win, crush opposing force and nialite their families. if you shall fail me, my punishment to you is fierce. Go now and worship your god in heavens... [Insert something funny or smart here]

Vertisce Soritenshi Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 1752	Posted - 2012.10.05 13:12:00 - [111] - Quote Dasola wrote: Bring my slave... Soldiers forward so i may send them to die.... Win glorious battles on my behalf. My Dustbunnies, go and win, crush opposing force and nialite their families. if you shall fail me, my punishment to you is fierce. Go now and worship your god in heavens... Dustmites...get it right...they are insects. Sheesh...Dustbunnies... EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX!
Viktor Fel Viziam Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2012.10.05 14:33:00 - [112] - Quote Lets see, Dust...interesting concept and all but the cancer of SOE looms over everything like a black cloud of epic fail. So no, not interested in Dust. SOE has ZERO credibility as a company to me so I avoid their cancerous corporate policies and inept management at all costs.
F'elch Wall Street Trading 2	Posted - 2012.10.05 15:21:00 - [113] - Quote OP, are you trying to get traffic to mittani.com or generate interest in Dust? Somehow I don't believe you are actually interested in this subject yourself.
Cerebral Wolf GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 27	Posted - 2012.10.05 15:42:00 - [114] - Quote F'elch wrote: OP, are you trying to get traffic to mittani.com or generate interest in Dust? Somehow I don't believe you are actually interested in this subject yourself. I love Dust, i play it every day for at least a couple of hours, my main focus is to generate interest in Dust, there's actually very little interest from Goons other than a small group of us and i want to try and generate a bit of a buzz by providing some news bits here and there and using TM.com as a platform for that is the easiest way open to me right now. As far as people talking about it being a PS3 exclusive and talking about PS2, has anyone considered that Sony forced CCP into making it console exclusive?.. Think about this, Sony don't want MS to get Dust based on the fact that it could actually work and be something amazing, Sony agrees to make the changes to their online infrastructure to allow Dust to work on the condition that Dust is made PS3 exclusive. Why do Sony it as an exclusive? It's good for bragging about as its an exclusive, but most importantly, it keeps Dust OFF the PC for awhile so Sony can release Plantside 2 without any competition from Dust as they are both FPSMMO games and a lot of EVE players are playing Planetside 2, if Dust was being beta tested on the PC where would they all be? Testing Dust not Planetside.
Cerebral Wolf GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 27	Posted - 2012.10.05 15:43:00 - [115] - Quote Viktor Fel wrote: Lets see, Dust...interesting concept and all but the cancer of SOE looms over everything like a black cloud of epic fail. So no, not interested in Dust. SOE has ZERO credibility as a company to me so I avoid their cancerous corporate policies and inept management at all costs. Dust has nothing to do with SOE other than being based on the Playstation platform wise.
Steve Ronuken Fuzzwork Enterprises 689	Posted - 2012.10.05 15:55:00 - [116] - Quote It should be noted, Planetside 2 is PC only. So it's not in direct competition with Dust 514. FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities.
Cerebral Wolf GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 27	Posted - 2012.10.05 15:56:00 - [117] - Quote Steve Ronuken wrote: It should be noted, Planetside 2 is PC only. So it's not in direct competition with Dust 514. It would be if Sony had not made Dust an PS3 exclusive. CCP would have released Dust on the PC as well and they would be in direct competition.
Random McNally Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 60	Posted - 2012.10.05 15:59:00 - [118] - Quote Another member of the "Do not own a PS3" crew checking in. While Dust has no particular interest for me, I will say that I'm curious what will happen as it has a chance to grow and thrive. My main concern is that IF Dust fails, that it doesn't pull my beloved spaceship game down with it.....
Moondancer Starweaver The Drones Club Shoot 2 Thrill 3	Posted - 2012.10.05 16:02:00 - [119] - Quote Dust is the entire reason i picked up eve dont have a ps 3 or any skill or interest in FPS's but if i can help out my friends who do it will be epic.
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 288	Posted - 2012.10.05 16:09:00 - [120] - Quote The amount of butt hurt from EVE players about DUST is crazy. And all because it's on PS3 not PC. DUST stands in enhance our eve experience by giving Alliances new ways to screw with each other (i can see alliances throwing isk at dustbunnines trying to get that IHUB timer juuustt rriigghhhhtt), potentially brings more people to EVE (isn't this something that some GD posters cry about?) and potentially gives CCP new revenue that will let them go to the next level as a game company. It may even allow the average EVE player to become the space overlord the game lore always tells use we are , and perhaps without having to wardec someone ("hey,that guy just griefed me, well, Ill use my mission running isk and hire some plausible dependability dust bunnies to **** up his PI operation") But but, I can't play it on PC, so it's bad.... Brilliant.



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