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Nifel
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Posted - 2005.03.12 10:34:00 -
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 Originally by: Gravedancer
... Nevermind that at the time of THAT post BoB hadnt controlled a station in the north (even the "BoB HQ" station) in over a month...
Erm... can I have you're smoking?
"We wield swords for the sound of laughter that used to be there long ago." |
Psychosis81
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Posted - 2005.03.12 10:51:00 -
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Edited by: Psychosis81 on 12/03/2005 10:56:28
Looking at the reply's to this thread really do simply amaze me, I find it hard to believe that fa members are still actually posting that they control the space around the core systems of fountain.
Everyday this week ive logged on on my dinner break or on a mornin ive found maybe 2 fa in yz local Which about 2 months ago wouldve had over 30 as a rule,
Then I think of all the kick off's ive been in against fa everyone weve engaged they have been simply smashed to bits for an fa member to deny this would be an outright lie, we enegaged there fleet last night again and annihilated them they used a covert ops to position a perfect jump in on us got wasted then 1 of em actually had the gaul to say OUR tactics were lame unsure what he meant by that tbh as we were sitting on the gate.
I really dont post on these forums very often however when i see ppl blatantly lying about the sittuation up there I thought it warranted 1 for once, we were actually hauling goods and npc'ing up there yesterday due to lack of targets and managed to kill 3 npc hauler spawns n haul it back 3 jumps unhindered by anything.
Flame as much as you want i dont really care tbh but fa members know whas happenin up here
btw I Dont Lie The Truth Is Far Much More Ammusing!
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TWD
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Posted - 2005.03.12 11:03:00 -
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Edited by: TWD on 12/03/2005 11:06:31
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Alexandra Belani
that lacks substance tbh. controlling something once for a short period of time only denotes that you are good at blobbing and poor at long term strategy.
Alex, I will only comment on the time I was up there.
It is my understanding, particularly from quarath's maps, that BoB controlled tenal and branch for a good 4 months prior to my joining RKK.
Is that long enough for you? I find it funny that, at the time, you supported them in this claim, but now you're on a different side you change your tune.
gg.
Ok for arguments sake, lets say BoB did control the stations for 4 months. Now considering that the war lasted for a year, If my math is right, that means PA controlled the stations a for 8 months after commencement of hostilities, and control it now after the end of the war.
Then by your whole "station controlled for so long" argument, PA won. Damn never thought about it that way, maybe I should have a victory party now. 
Your math is flawed, we fully controlled it for around 4 months until some people decided to ditch the place, the other x months before that it was "contested" |
Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.03.12 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: TWD
Edited by: TWD on 12/03/2005 11:06:31
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Alexandra Belani
that lacks substance tbh. controlling something once for a short period of time only denotes that you are good at blobbing and poor at long term strategy.
Alex, I will only comment on the time I was up there.
It is my understanding, particularly from quarath's maps, that BoB controlled tenal and branch for a good 4 months prior to my joining RKK.
Is that long enough for you? I find it funny that, at the time, you supported them in this claim, but now you're on a different side you change your tune.
gg.
Ok for arguments sake, lets say BoB did control the stations for 4 months. Now considering that the war lasted for a year, If my math is right, that means PA controlled the stations a for 8 months after commencement of hostilities, and control it now after the end of the war.
Then by your whole "station controlled for so long" argument, PA won. Damn never thought about it that way, maybe I should have a victory party now.
Your math is flawed, we fully controlled it for around 4 months until some people decided to ditch the place, the other x months before that it was "contested"
Aha I knew there was a flaw in my argument somewhere. I'm bored at work can't be arsed to actually argue about who has a bigger e-peen.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.03.12 12:14:00 -
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Darken: The war lasted 8 months, not a year.
Mortuus said Quote:
BoB has the easy job, driving out carebears is simple.
Yeah I know mate, CE and R-K were the carebears of the PA. It was only the hardcore guys like occassus that fought us everyday and continued the struggle right to our leaving in defeat, right? right??
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2005.03.12 12:19:00 -
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Edited by: Gungankllr on 12/03/2005 13:52:44
All I see lately is an endless pattern of BoB corps getting on the forums, proclaiming how they have utterly beaten someone, and then spending the next several weeks with 400 versions of the same basic post trying to convince everyone else.
I don't hate anyone in BoB, but what I do hate is the constant need to tell everyone. I guess it's important if you're a PVP corp, but I wish there was an easier way to define who the "winner" is in these regional conflicts.
Until something is put in place, just have fun. By reading all these posts, many of you just sound kind of bitter and angry.
Eve is supposed to be fun, I just can't imagine having a good time firing broadsides at each other on the forums.
I'm sure that there are certain folks that LOVE doing that, I guess I just don't fit into that mold.
So the question I ask is this:
Does it make your Eve time more fun to go back and forth with "Insert random alliance here" when you're at war with them?
Edit: it's not ALL BoB corps, mostly ATUK. Reikoku has been rather chivalrous when it comes to their conduct on the forums over the last few months.
www.hadean.org
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.03.12 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Darken: The war lasted 8 months, not a year.
Mortuus said Quote:
BoB has the easy job, driving out carebears is simple.
Yeah I know mate, CE and R-K were the carebears of the PA. It was only the hardcore guys like occassus that fought us everyday and continued the struggle right to our leaving in defeat, right? right??
dbp
Thanks for the timeline correction DBp
Wolves have +5 to RKK 
Does this mean I have to support you on the forums now
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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ZelRox
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Posted - 2005.03.12 13:18:00 -
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Delve has been pacified. We are letting roids regrow a bit before giving a go to that ebil thing called mining, that will fatten our wallets.
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.03.12 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante
While FA are far from dead, I cannot honestly imagine that they would claim they control YZ more than we do.
Given that we control their home more than they do, (and have done for weeks) have we not won?
They were all busy blobbing in Tparbucks two days ago - maybe they want a swap? 
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.03.12 14:20:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: DB Preacher
Darken: The war lasted 8 months, not a year.
Mortuus said Quote:
BoB has the easy job, driving out carebears is simple.
Yeah I know mate, CE and R-K were the carebears of the PA. It was only the hardcore guys like occassus that fought us everyday and continued the struggle right to our leaving in defeat, right? right??
dbp
Thanks for the timeline correction DBp
Wolves have +5 to RKK
Does this mean I have to support you on the forums now
I hope not :p
I think it just means I have to lick you in passing in local ;)
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.03.12 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: DB Preacher
Darken: The war lasted 8 months, not a year.
Mortuus said Quote:
BoB has the easy job, driving out carebears is simple.
Yeah I know mate, CE and R-K were the carebears of the PA. It was only the hardcore guys like occassus that fought us everyday and continued the struggle right to our leaving in defeat, right? right??
dbp
Thanks for the timeline correction DBp
Wolves have +5 to RKK
Does this mean I have to support you on the forums now
I hope not :p
I think it just means I have to lick you in passing in local ;)
dbp
NOOOOOO
oh wait, you said licking....I have no problems with that. I have lubed you always.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.03.12 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two
I'm bored at work can't be arsed to actually argue about who has a bigger e-peen.
No point in that, deep down everyone knows that mr bob's e-peen is massive.
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Morrganna
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Posted - 2005.03.12 16:26:00 -
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ya know yall bobbers still aint answered my question about whether you log in to game and play or jus stay here and spam the forums,,,,must be the latter
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.03.12 16:41:00 -
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The irony is so blunt its actually physically palpable.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority -
ShinRa
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Snapp
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Posted - 2005.03.12 17:01:00 -
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IN!! and it's still not locked
From this all I get is "FA wont fight us like we want them too, and thus must be dead!" Kill boards mean nothing to people who do not care about status.
but hey, flame away!
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.03.12 17:12:00 -
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they mean nothing to people who dont play the game too, but that doesnt stop them mattering.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority -
ShinRa
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Muugatuu
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Posted - 2005.03.12 17:39:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Lallante
they mean nothing to people who dont play the game too, but that doesnt stop them mattering.
My opinion is better than yours.
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.03.12 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: Percivs
- Supply fuel to multiple POS in the area
- Rent and operate the majority of station real estate in the area (unless our enemies would like to provide screen shots to the contrary?), including offices, lab slots and factory slots.
- Have an advantage over the visiting hostiles in that we are established there, while ATUK must perform it's refitting, etc. out of region.
- Keep our clones in Fountain region (and Delve when we hold NOL) unlike the majority of those who attack us.
- NPC hunt, mine, haul, etc. during the lull in hostilities.
One word to sum it all up: Npc-Stations
You cant "unrent" offices/factories/labs on npc stations, otherwise it would have been done already.
You cant kick out clones of npc stations, like done in delve.
You cant prohibit docking on npc stations otherwise it would have been done, like in delve...
However Atuk has an office and factories in Fountain and hence can grant supplies to its members there or latest 20 jumps away. No major disadvantage, while fighting in curse u had sometimes to go 40++ jumps to get something.
On the otherhand Atuk can and does refit in any npc station so your point about that is simply wrong.
P.S. would u want to spectaculate how the situation would be with conq stations ?
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siim
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Posted - 2005.03.12 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: Muugatuu
Originally by: Lallante
they mean nothing to people who dont play the game too, but that doesnt stop them mattering.
My opinion is better than yours.
and you were the wannabe daakkon?
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Garramon
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Posted - 2005.03.12 18:52:00 -
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I am important cause I posted on the forums, almost as important as these ATUK guys.
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siim
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Posted - 2005.03.12 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Garramon
I am important cause I posted on the forums, almost as important as these ATUK guys.
would that make me uber important?
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Vanila Ice
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Posted - 2005.03.12 19:04:00 -
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Quote:
1. Supply fuel to multiple POS in the area
2. Rent and operate the majority of station real estate in the area (unless our enemies would like to provide screen shots to the contrary?), including offices, lab slots and factory slots.
3. Have an advantage over the visiting hostiles in that we are established there, while ATUK must perform it's refitting, etc. out of region.
4. Keep our clones in Fountain region (and Delve when we hold NOL) unlike the majority of those who attack us.
5. NPC hunt, mine, haul, etc. during the lull in hostilities.
I'm trying to grasp what you hope this proves.
I'm also trying to understand if you think posting this will help your cause.
1: Instajumps right before or after DT
2: Every BOB/Shinra corp has multiple offices - no way to evict
3: LOL, have you ever logged into Eve? You can dock and refit at npc stations pal
4: Again, this is LOL. Anyhone in EVE can put their clone in YZ-LQL
5: I guess chaining npc's and mining bistot in D-Q never happened. Also never killed any npc mining ops. I have seen your afk macro miners in HUN get killed
Please login, learn Eve, then post.
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.03.12 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Percivs
Official Fountain Alliance Retort
Fountain Alliance will not entertain or engage in meaningless claiming of who maintains dominance during which timezones. Instead, we would like to take this opportunity to point out the following facts. Fountain Alliance member corporations continue to:
- Supply fuel to multiple POS in the area
- Rent and operate the majority of station real estate in the area (unless our enemies would like to provide screen shots to the contrary?), including offices, lab slots and factory slots.
- Have an advantage over the visiting hostiles in that we are established there, while ATUK must perform it's refitting, etc. out of region.
- Keep our clones in Fountain region (and Delve when we hold NOL) unlike the majority of those who attack us.
- NPC hunt, mine, haul, etc. during the lull in hostilities.
If our attackers can make the same claim, as the "visiting team" we invite them to supply proof. Otherwise we stand on our history in the region as evidence of the above statements.
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii
p.s to mods this isnt flaim bait it is a statement of intent that is regarded as public news. locking this thread would go against what this forum is about
A statement of intent would be defined as "It is the intent of ATUK to sieze the Fountain region and offer hunting/mining/travel passports through the region formally controlled by Fountain Alliance, etc. etc." This is not what was posted. What was posted was flame bait and hyperbole or "humor."
I stand on my earlier statement that this thread is nothing but flamebait and request an immediate lock. There is not a single paragraph in the original post that is objectively supportable (and subjectively, only maybe).
Does this guy play eve or some other game?
He doesnt seem to have a clue about FA or Fountain region
Though he has only been fa for 4 month's poor kid
I request a decent fa diplomat usurps him as he is making a joke out of your alliance.
I doubt this dude has even left nonni 1 lai dai station.
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maurice
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Posted - 2005.03.12 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Psychosis81
Everyday this week ive logged on on my dinner break or on a mornin ive found maybe 2 fa in yz local Which about 2 months ago wouldve had over 30 as a rule,
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btw I Dont Lie The Truth Is Far Much More Ammusing!
Last night there were 40 in local, 12 were hostiles, 28 FA. This was subsequently corroborated by an ATUK member
In over a year in FA I have never seen less than 6 FA in YZ at any time of the day or night. On the single occasion when numbers were this low, it was so unusual as to be notable.
Last nights numbers were fairly typical. For you to state there were two or less FA members in YZ on five consequetive days is a fabrication. I have seen you in local in YZ on each of those days, on each of which your forces were outnumbered.
For propoganda purposes, it may well be useful to promote the myth that FA have vacated Fountain. Howevere, this is not the case as evidences by subsequent posts about us hiding in the POS, and engaging in battles where we were slaughtered.It is not possible for you to deny our presence whilst also belittling our abilities when outnubering you
Therefore I am afraid you are deliberately misrepresenting the facts for your own ends.
Consequently your last paragraph - that you do not lie - is substantially disproved.
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Vanila Ice
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Posted - 2005.03.12 19:37:00 -
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Quote:
I have seen you in local in YZ on each of those days, on each of which your forces were outnumbered.
Do you think that might have something to do with your lack of balls? If you wont fight straightup numbers, perhaps its wise to have less in local. Make no mistake FA, you're foes can outblob you at this point.
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Mortuus
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Posted - 2005.03.12 19:47:00 -
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Actually DB, I have nothing but respect for those corps. I'm talking more about the mass of people that disappeared for six months when the fighting got hard. Too bad they didn't stay away.
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maurice
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Posted - 2005.03.12 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Vanila Ice
If you wont fight straightup numbers, perhaps its wise to have less in local. Make no mistake FA, you're foes can outblob you at this point.
FA fights on its own terms - they are not obliged to provide a source of amusement for BoB, Shinra or anyone else. If FA does not aim / wish / desire / intend / consider it important / to allow hostile forces to enjoy the game experience when attacking FA, then they seem to be achieving that particular goal.
It is baffling to read people complaining that they are bored and frustrated by FA tactics, which are to all intents and purposes intended to bore and frustrate.
Balls can occasionally be benefically exchanged for Brains.
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thelung187
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Posted - 2005.03.12 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: maurice
It is baffling to read people complaining that they are bored and frustrated by FA tactics, which are to all intents and purposes intended to bore and frustrate.
Would this include your own membership as well Baun?
[ 2005.05.19 22:54:23 ] InnerDrive > only solution safespot till you leave or mine in empire till you leave or something |
Kreep13
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Posted - 2005.03.12 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Jakk Graiseach
Originally by: Lallante
While FA are far from dead, I cannot honestly imagine that they would claim they control YZ more than we do.
Given that we control their home more than they do, (and have done for weeks) have we not won?
They were all busy blobbing in Tparbucks two days ago - maybe they want a swap?
They were blobbing in Tpar until we got a fleet headed down there. At that point in time they logged instead of fighting. The fleet numbers were enguageable for both sides. We remain in control of all claimed space.
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Nitroviper
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Posted - 2005.03.12 21:46:00 -
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and so it begins
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