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Qayos	Posted - 2005.03.15 22:21:00 - [61] Originally by: Kayser Yeah I can't wait to see all the flames on the forums from the highsec miningparties that got whooped by a Combatgroup cause they fired on the Orethief(remember, if you can group with defenders, then the Orethief can Group with attackers). I mean, I can allready see what will happen if that ever makes it in. Bored PvP vets creating orthieving alts just so that some highsec miners shoots them for stealing so they can warp in with their main and gank the miningparty without Concord interfering. It sure will be interesting to watch the blinding flash of exploding Miners all over empire. Don't give gang/corpmates of theif permission to attack. Only give permission to the corp/gang of the victim to attack only the theif. Anyone else involved in any way gets a sec hit as normal.
Eleska	Posted - 2005.03.15 22:59:00 - [62] click Jettison WARNING: Are you sure you want to jettison your ore into space? click yes i'm willing to risk this. ------------- jetÀtiÀson 1) To cast overboard or off: a ship jettisoning wastes; a pilot jettisoning aircraft fuel. 2) To discard (something) as unwanted or burdensome 3) The act of discarding or casting overboard. From Middle English jetteson, a throwing overboard of goods to lighten ship --------------------- Jet can mining = More Risk = Higher Profit Other Methods* = Less Risk = Lower Profit Welcome to eve: Risk Vs Reward (level4agents 4teh win :/) What here needs fixing exactly? Other methods* Use Secure Containers Have an friend sit in a hauler and scope the contents of your jetcan so there is nothing or very little for anyone to steal. If you have no friends to mine with (multiplayer anyone?) Then haul your can often to minimize what can be stolen. Mine in Low Sec and pack guns Accept said risk and that on occasions someone well steal a portion of your ore.
Arcticblue2	Posted - 2005.03.15 23:46:00 - [63] Good you want risk vs rewards... that is what miners do want too... we want orethiefs to have some kind of risk too... we do not want to nerf them just give them som risk, as orethief today = reward only, biggest danger a orethief can get is hard language nothing more!!! ---------------------------------------------- "When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things." 1 cor. 13:11
SlaneeshZ	Posted - 2005.03.16 01:42:00 - [64] Edited by: SlaneeshZ on 16/03/2005 01:44:42 Originally by: Qayos Originally by: SlaneeshZ I don't think forbidding ore-thieving through some weird rules should go in. In the nature we have birds who steal from other birds too. That's because these birds "jettisoned" their eggs and went out leaving their nests unattended without protection. Learn from these birds, get a grip and stop whining about ore-thieves. No one would SHOOT the bird for protecting her eggs though, that is unrealistic. Stop whining to be able to keep hiding behind CONCORD as you steal ore, be a man and fight for it. "Boo hoo, I don't want people to shoot at me, I just want their ore..." No ones asking CONCORD to PROTECT the ore, just if they aren't going to stop the theif, let US stop him, or at least try. Don't prtect the coward that hides behind CONCORD to inflict their crimes. In space <0.5 you can shoot the thief as you can shoot at people of all coleur in general there, your reward: - 'safe' jettison can mining and better ore types. Help needed for: - military protection In => 0.5 you can't just shoot people not at war so you have to mine into secure cans if you are solomining and you will only find lower graded ore, your reward: - safety granted by CONCORD Help needed for: - hauling You can't have it all, safety and shooting people not at war with you. I don't think there should be a change because many players wants it and to stop the whining. ---- A true player does feel no need to remind himself or fellow players that it is just a game.
Syzygy Three	Posted - 2005.03.16 05:24:00 - [65] Give us tech II secure cans with 4250 m3! (Requiring Anchoring V of course). I like silly stuff. "Parting is such sweet sorrow."
Amicus	Posted - 2005.03.16 06:14:00 - [66] Oveur mentioned new system is planned to allow firing on Ore Thieves.
Jeebs	Posted - 2005.03.16 07:45:00 - [67] Edited by: Jeebs on 16/03/2005 07:45:06 omgbuhu man ore thieves are great. they make this game exciting. they are the lowest common denominator of the game, and yet unsung heros. to all ore thieves out there, i salute you. someday your boat will sail in, and you will begin to make profits in other venues. think of ore thieves like the bums in big cities. you just spot them a 5, you know they are gonna buy booze (or in this case some good cargo expanders to increase theiving potential) but you do it anyways. (\_/) (x.x) (> <) This was Bunny. Kill Bunny and stop him from achieving world domination.
ThePilgrim	Posted - 2005.03.16 10:48:00 - [68] An old corpmate of mine was mining in a thorax when an orethief appeared and started helping himself to his ore. After a brief and heated discussion in local my corpmate decided this guy was gonna get taught a lesson... He let fly with several missiles...blowing the guy clean out of the sky and then podded him for the sake of it :) Sure he took a sec status hit...sure he almost lost his ship to Concord...but you couldn't wipe the smile off his face for weeks ====================================== dolce et decorum est pro libertas mori
ollobrains	Posted - 2005.03.16 10:54:00 - [69] that is the risk one takes when ore theif (how do cloaked ships go with doing it i wonder)
Avon	Posted - 2005.03.16 11:00:00 - [70] Originally by: ThePilgrim An old corpmate of mine was mining in a thorax when an orethief appeared and started helping himself to his ore. After a brief and heated discussion in local my corpmate decided this guy was gonna get taught a lesson... He let fly with several missiles...blowing the guy clean out of the sky and then podded him for the sake of it :) Sure he took a sec status hit...sure he almost lost his ship to Concord...but you couldn't wipe the smile off his face for weeks Thorax can't fire missiles. Next. ______________________________________________ Never argue with idiots. They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience.
ollobrains	Posted - 2005.03.16 11:02:00 - [71] Thorax cant fire missiles perhaps he was using a celestis ?
ThePilgrim	Posted - 2005.03.16 11:35:00 - [72] Originally by: Avon Originally by: ThePilgrim An old corpmate of mine was mining in a thorax when an orethief appeared and started helping himself to his ore. After a brief and heated discussion in local my corpmate decided this guy was gonna get taught a lesson... He let fly with several missiles...blowing the guy clean out of the sky and then podded him for the sake of it :) Sure he took a sec status hit...sure he almost lost his ship to Concord...but you couldn't wipe the smile off his face for weeks Thorax can't fire missiles. Next. LMAO...No - you are damn right and he has quite correctly pointed out my noobness lvl 10. He was indeed flying a caracal he tells me...(although knowing how many ships he has lost I am starting to question his memory....) Mining in a caracal? Do people do that? ====================================== dolce et decorum est pro libertas mori
Tenaj	Posted - 2005.03.16 12:13:00 - [73] So first he was in a missile firing Thorax and now in a mining Caracal? Good to see that Munchausen's syndrome is not a bar to playing.......... Channel TOOKURSTUFF, serving the Criminal community.
ollobrains	Posted - 2005.03.16 12:15:00 - [74] how about a 10 slot torpedo bearing gallanete shuttle or perhaps that is the jove shuttle that has dual death rays that do 10000 points damage at 400km and 90% accuracy with a scanning range of 20000km ?
Matanga	Posted - 2005.03.16 12:27:00 - [75] I only hope that people that "defend" Ore Thieves with arguments like * Go to < 0.5 * Don't Jet Can * etc Don't ever complain about the high prices for Trit and Pye NOTE : I've never had problems with Ore Thieves (as I usually have my cans bookmarked) but I did find quite anyoing that a 2 day alt in a Kestrel Killed my cans after trying to ranson them. "ÆIn accordance with the principles of double-think it does not matter if the war is not real. For when it is, victory is not possible. The war is not meant to be won, but it is meant to be continuous.Æö George Orwell ô1984ö
Discorporation	Posted - 2005.03.16 12:31:00 - [76] Originally by: ollobrains how about a 10 slot torpedo bearing gallanete shuttle or perhaps that is the jove shuttle that has dual death rays that do 10000 points damage at 400km and 90% accuracy with a scanning range of 20000km ? You're just taking the **** now, aren't you.. [Heterocephalus glaber]

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