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Nalha Saldana
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:16:00 -
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So CCP posted a pic of the Megathron redesign on facebook, what is different on this one compared to old?
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/200886_10151190189914394_1480317101_o.jpg |
Adoro
Reikoku The Retirement Club
10
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:21:00 -
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The Bridge for starters |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1503
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:21:00 -
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old TK is recruiting |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1758
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:23:00 -
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Looks like it is a bit longer and the front isn't as bulbous as it was before. I like it better than what it is now for sure...I still hate most designs that have a huge front end and a tiny rear end. Of course the opposite isn't all that great either. This is going to be one of those iconic ship things. The Raven is absolutely hideous and everybody knows it...but instead of making it kickass looking like they did with the Scorpion, they chose to make minor updates and keep the overall design. Certain ships, they just don't want to make the big changes to. I expect most of the battleships to be this way. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
1191
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:25:00 -
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Not as spread out. Bridge and rear wings are tucked in closer. Drone control looks less like a odd external engine. Central body not so segmented with a dark canyons of windows. lower central is one piece Front seems to jut out as a steeper angle. Center hardpoints are more spread out and less bunched up. |
Nalha Saldana
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
318
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:25:00 -
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It does look streamlined overall, the drone bay isnt poking out underneath anymore. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
2737
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:26:00 -
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From what I can see it's full of minor alterations. The shape is familiar, but changed too. The wingy bits in the aft are different, the curves of the hull seems different, the bridge is different and minor details are added. That's just my impressions from memory though. |
TharOkha
0asis Group
103
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:28:00 -
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more polygons GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
444
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:35:00 -
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Needs bigger engines. They see me trolling, they hating... |
Nylith Empyreal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
134
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:35:00 -
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Looks good to me, doesn't look like a camel toe when you look above anymore. "Oh, you can't help that," said the troll: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" -ásaid the forumwarrior. "You must be," said the troll, "or you wouldn't have come here." |
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
549
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:35:00 -
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http://i.imgur.com/omjmW.jpg
this is the differences updates, pretty significant http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1503
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:37:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:http://i.imgur.com/omjmW.jpg
this is the differences updates, pretty significant
OK, thats a neat comparison
moves me onto the obvious question...why? TK is recruiting |
Nalha Saldana
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
318
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:38:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:Muad 'dib wrote:http://i.imgur.com/omjmW.jpg
this is the differences updates, pretty significant OK, thats a neat comparison moves me onto the obvious question...why?
Just look at the model ingame, its a mess. |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
549
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:41:00 -
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clearly this is a massive change and a huge improvment, but will the new mega navy paint job look like it just flew through a jungle? http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Mr Floydy
The Xenodus Initiative. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
33
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:44:00 -
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Always thought the Mega looked pretty decent - certainly the front. I've never been a fan of the sticky out engine bit on the rear left (drone control bit?) Engines always look really tiny too.
I love the fact that the models are being overhauled, but there are definitely ships that need far more attention than the Mega! Everything Caldari bar the Drake/Tengu/Ferox could do with some love currently! Plus I'd love to see a new Apocalypse model! |
TharOkha
0asis Group
103
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:45:00 -
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Bring black vindicator back pleeeease GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
1191
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:47:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:clearly this is a massive change and a huge improvment, but will the new mega navy paint job look like it just flew through a jungle? Camo is here to stay. It will be used to better market paint changes using $AUR$ if you don't want ugly camo. |
SMT008
Les chevaliers de l'ordre Goonswarm Federation
462
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:48:00 -
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I like it very much. |
Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
599
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:50:00 -
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... are those Sansha spikes at the front? Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
120
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:52:00 -
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Thank god CCP are addressing the real issues that face EVE players today. |
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
549
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:53:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:Muad 'dib wrote:clearly this is a massive change and a huge improvment, but will the new mega navy paint job look like it just flew through a jungle? Camo is here to stay. It will be used to better market paint changes using $AUR$ if you don't want ugly camo.
dammit thats genius tactic ccp, just cruel enough to work!
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
1193
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:54:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:... are those Sansha spikes at the front? Antenna like a ton of other ships have...
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Thank god CCP are addressing the real issues that face EVE players today. Because the art department are all programers... |
Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics
848
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:57:00 -
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Looks good.
I was afraid the CCP art team had forgotten how to model ships after the new Minnie destroyer. |
Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
599
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:57:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote:... are those Sansha spikes at the front? Antenna like a ton of other ships have...
It was a non serious comment. It's more the fact they're right at the front almost like an impaler to a battering ram.
Overall I very much like it, the model has more detail to it, the bridge looks less like a car spoiler and more like "We took inspiration from a Star Destroyer. The back is stretched out and streamlined instead of having a fat ass, and the tops on the bow overrun as opposed to just curl into the sides.
Looks more sleek, detailed and aggressive. I approve.
Now fix the Spacespud. Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |
Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
599
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:59:00 -
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Jada Maroo wrote:Looks good.
I was afraid the CCP art team had forgotten how to model ships after the new Minnie destroyer.
As inspired by the Mole from the old Thunderbird series.
Whereas the new Amarr Destroyer is just the Mako from Mass Effect stretched out as a Limousine. Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |
Crrrazy Ivan
Volatile Instability Fusion.
33
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:07:00 -
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Would've preferred the Domi to get a redesign since the Mega was always visually appealing, at least to me. |
Nalha Saldana
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
318
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:15:00 -
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Crrrazy Ivan wrote:Would've preferred the Domi to get a redesign since the Mega was always visually appealing, at least to me.
Sure the domi is ugly but the model isnt as outdated as the mega. |
Ryhss
Android Gang Stealth Syndicate
19
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:20:00 -
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It just looks a little smoother. |
Lugia3
Shydow Imperium
29
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:28:00 -
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Noooooooooooooo-
That mega is ugly. Megathron is already awesome. Will sell wallet space for ISK. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
1319
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:28:00 -
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Iconic design, now with 15% more awesome.
Now the Helios, Celestis and all T2 hulls of all races? Thanks!
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
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Krell Kroenen
Miners In Possession Brothers of Apocrypha.
44
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:38:00 -
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I agree with the OP, I can't see really any change. It's like the Emperor's new clothes. Perhaps there are some mild tweaks that can't be seen at first glance, and are more clear if you do a side by side comparison with the old vs the new. *Shrugs* I just think they could have invested the time better reviewing their new minmatar destroyer myself. *smirks* |
Arline Kley
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
40
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:54:00 -
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Since they seem to be redesigning the tier 2 battleships does this mean that the Amarrian engineers will finally be able to finish off the Apoc? the reason I never flew one for many years was the fact that the arse end of the ship just looks completely unfinished.. a "That'll do" jobby, rather than properly designed engine cowlings/venturi tubes...
Blessed are those that carry the Empress' Light; with it they destroy the shadows |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
234
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:57:00 -
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I like it, although it's understated.
There are only so many ways you can updated something as iconic as the Megathron, and keep it looking like a Megathron. ISD Suvetar Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1297
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:59:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Thank god CCP are addressing the real issues that face EVE players today.
Yes, CCP, get those artists working coding changes ASAP!
Put the accountants and GMs on it too. Hell, get the night janitor involved as well.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
baltec1
Bat Country
2413
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Posted - 2012.10.08 15:13:00 -
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Fapfapfap.
But I must insist that my beloved megathrons keep the headlights :colbert: |
Gorn Arming
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
76
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Posted - 2012.10.08 15:19:00 -
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The current Megathron has a somewhat cartoonish look with the giant front-end. The new version is a definite improvement.
Still, what battleships really need is a retexturing more than a model redesign. Zooming in and seeing the windows blur ruins any sense of scale. |
Alexa Coates
Red Fleet
194
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Posted - 2012.10.08 15:36:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Thank god CCP are addressing the real issues that face EVE players today. oh my ******* god damn ccp is more than one person, they can do multiple ******* things.
get this through your head you fucksticks. Love my Gallente Federation Navy ships! |
Josef Djugashvilis
655
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Posted - 2012.10.08 15:37:00 -
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Crrrazy Ivan wrote:Would've preferred the Domi to get a redesign since the Mega was always visually appealing, at least to me.
This, a thousand times this. Too old, tired and ugly to care. |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
123
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Posted - 2012.10.08 15:59:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Thank god CCP are addressing the real issues that face EVE players today.
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
Because the art department are all programers...
War Kitten wrote:
Yes, CCP, get those artists working coding changes ASAP!
Put the accountants and GMs on it too. Hell, get the night janitor involved as well.
Alexa Coates wrote: oh my ******* god damn ccp is more than one person, they can do multiple ******* things.
get this through your head you fucksticks.
And which one of you three logged onto EVE last, saw a Megthron/Vindicator and went "Jesus christ that ship is ugly, it needs a redesign" and which of you went "Oh, it's a Megathron"?
They could spend their time doing something useful, like drawing a magnificent portrait of myself to hang in my Captain's Quarters.
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Nalha Saldana
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
318
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Posted - 2012.10.08 16:03:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Thank god CCP are addressing the real issues that face EVE players today. Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
Because the art department are all programers...
War Kitten wrote:
Yes, CCP, get those artists working coding changes ASAP!
Put the accountants and GMs on it too. Hell, get the night janitor involved as well.
Alexa Coates wrote: oh my ******* god damn ccp is more than one person, they can do multiple ******* things.
get this through your head you fucksticks.
And which one of you three logged onto EVE last, saw a Megthron/Vindicator and went "Jesus christ that ship is ugly, it needs a redesign" and which of you went "Oh, it's a Megathron"? They could spend their time doing something useful, like drawing a magnificent portrait of myself to hang in my Captain's Quarters.
Its not about pretty/ugly, thats a matter of personal opinion. I bet that CCP have a list of outdated models that they take care of in the right order. |
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Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1505
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Posted - 2012.10.08 16:15:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:They could spend their time doing something useful, like drawing a magnificent portrait of myself to hang in my Captain's Quarters. I'd like the option to project my face onto the surface of a moon with an orbital laser device :3 TK is recruiting |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
124
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Posted - 2012.10.08 16:17:00 -
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Nalha Saldana wrote: Its not about pretty/ugly, thats a matter of personal opinion. I bet that CCP have a list of outdated models that they take care of in the right order.
Then if they are updating models based off a spreadsheet instead of what EVE players think looks bad then my original comment stands |
Nalha Saldana
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
318
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Posted - 2012.10.08 16:20:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Nalha Saldana wrote: Its not about pretty/ugly, thats a matter of personal opinion. I bet that CCP have a list of outdated models that they take care of in the right order.
Then if they are updating models based off a spreadsheet instead of what EVE players think looks bad then my original comment stands
Replacing the ones with bad textures and polygons is way more important then what a few players wine on the forums about. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1711
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Posted - 2012.10.08 16:38:00 -
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It looks to me like a sleek redesign.... kind of like the new old porche for next year.....
Begs the question tho.... why is CCP fixing stuff that wasn't broke..... |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2510
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Posted - 2012.10.08 16:40:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:It looks to me like a sleek redesign.... kind of like the new old porche for next year.....
Begs the question tho.... why is CCP fixing stuff that wasn't broke..... Because the art department works on graphics that need updating, not bug fixes. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2510
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Posted - 2012.10.08 16:43:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Thank god CCP are addressing the real issues that face EVE players today. Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
Because the art department are all programers...
War Kitten wrote:
Yes, CCP, get those artists working coding changes ASAP!
Put the accountants and GMs on it too. Hell, get the night janitor involved as well.
Alexa Coates wrote: oh my ******* god damn ccp is more than one person, they can do multiple ******* things.
get this through your head you fucksticks.
And which one of you three logged onto EVE last, saw a Megthron/Vindicator and went "Jesus christ that ship is ugly, it needs a redesign" and which of you went "Oh, it's a Megathron"? They could spend their time doing something useful, like drawing a magnificent portrait of myself to hang in my Captain's Quarters.
You have to admit, it's a big improvement.
I suppose you could Fraps yourself doing "things" in the Captains Quarters and then play them on the big screen? To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
125
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Posted - 2012.10.08 16:55:00 -
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I approve of new Megathron. Now CCP...put the Thorax on Extense and make it beefier! |
Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics
848
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Posted - 2012.10.08 17:08:00 -
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I think it's pretty safe to assume the Dominix and Typhoon are high on the to-remodel list. CCP seems to be taking a hard look at the ugly-for-ugly's sake or low poly ship designs. To their credit they are creating a lot of new ships in this release.
4x new destroyers ORE mining frigate Megathron Tempest Stabber Imicus (this hasn't been talked about much but is coming) Heron - this makes me wonder if they aren't planning on redoing all exploration frigate models, Probe and Magnate included, but they haven't said anything yet Punisher? I think I read somewhere this model is being remade or touched up Incursus? Same. Apparently has a shorter antenna on the new design
I'm almost certain they're working on a new Rifter as well. I forget where I read it, but it's rattling around my memory. |
Bigpimping
Pimp Inc.
89
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Posted - 2012.10.08 17:10:00 -
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Looks like they've slightly pressed on its top, flattening it out a bit.
But also, a single hard-point on its sexy curves?!?! Why would you do this? |
Bigpimping
Pimp Inc.
89
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Posted - 2012.10.08 17:16:00 -
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I do like the new model, however, are there meant to be three number 8 hard-points?
Does the second 7th one sit on the corresponding site on the far side of the hull, or has the bottom point been incorrectly labeled?
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Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1761
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Posted - 2012.10.08 17:19:00 -
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Megathron has never been a good looking ship for me. I don't understand what people see in it. That's just me. If anything is high on their redesign list it should be most if not all of the Minmatar line of ships followed by the vast majority of Caldari frigs and cruisers. In all seriousness some of these look like some guys bad crack dream. Minmatar ships have very few good looking ones if you ask me. Not including the new Tornado I would say the only two I really like are the Rifter and Hurricane. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! |
Mars Theran
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
342
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Posted - 2012.10.08 17:26:00 -
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It's smoother. If they really want to improve that things look, I'd say bump the bridge up a ways and give it some depth. Always thought the Mega looked a bit absurd; it still does if this pic is any indication. What is it with Gallente and shoes anyway? zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
693
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Posted - 2012.10.08 17:34:00 -
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Here's a WAG:
It's prep work for the tessellation upgrades. There are flaws in the original model which meant that it wouldn't work. So they reworked the base model, the bump maps and the textures.
That is a WAG though.
FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |
Mars Theran
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
342
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Posted - 2012.10.08 17:38:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Here's a WAG:
It's prep work for the tessellation upgrades. There are flaws in the original model which meant that it wouldn't work. So they reworked the base model, the bump maps and the textures.
That is a WAG though.
What is a WAG? zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
693
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Posted - 2012.10.08 17:39:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:Here's a WAG:
It's prep work for the tessellation upgrades. There are flaws in the original model which meant that it wouldn't work. So they reworked the base model, the bump maps and the textures.
That is a WAG though.
What is a WAG?
Wild Ass Guess. FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |
Jace Errata
AirHogs Zulu People
288
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Posted - 2012.10.08 17:40:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:Here's a WAG:
It's prep work for the tessellation upgrades. There are flaws in the original model which meant that it wouldn't work. So they reworked the base model, the bump maps and the textures.
That is a WAG though.
What is a WAG?
Wibbly Astronaut Garters Wild Ass Guess. Stealth OST puns and blatant lies since 2009 Jace Errata on Twitter
One day they woke me up so I could live forever It's such a shame the same will never happen to you |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
1207
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Posted - 2012.10.08 17:42:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote: What is a WAG?
http://www.acronymfinder.com/WAG.html |
Daneel Trevize
Give my 11percent back
239
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Posted - 2012.10.08 17:44:00 -
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Look, it shouldn't be in any way able to be confused for frowning and it certainly shouldn't get a fat arse/gut.
It's the blaster gunboat, looking up at it from your hanger it should be a wall or cliff of as much firepower as is possible to cram into a 'economical' battleship design as possible. There is no excess size or mass to the design, except where it would allow moar damage, thus the front end is a chiseled wedge or pair of horns. If it doesn't look like it could be agile enough to turn and bring a fearsome gundeck to bear on you/sink it's teeth into you should you stray too close, you're doing it wrong.
And while it may be organic it's also a space ship, if the more minor thrusters need to be somewhat away from the main bulk to function efficiently, they're fine being in thin nacelles rather than absorbed into an amorphous blob of a main hull. Equally the underslung drone bay is perfectly fine as is. Extra parts should look like limbs/organs rather than cancers.
And it certainly shouldn't have bloody sansha/caldari spikes.
In short CCP, bin this bad idea and do some proper work on the caldari hulls. Or a possibly more lightweight dominix, not a fatter Mega. |
Mars Theran
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
342
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Posted - 2012.10.08 17:44:00 -
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http://i.imgur.com/sgapA.jpg
Forgive the lack of real effort; I used Paint, and it really doesn't do much. I'd extend that Bridge tower back and down from there, and off the rear of the model as it is now. Sort of a sloping, bridge section with probably a galley looking out off the back. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Mars Theran
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
342
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Posted - 2012.10.08 17:45:00 -
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I'll WAG it's the second one. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
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Mars Theran
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
342
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Posted - 2012.10.08 17:46:00 -
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Daneel Trevize wrote:Look, it shouldn't be in any way able to be confused for frowning and it certainly shouldn't get a fat arse/gut.
It's the blaster gunboat, looking up at it from your hanger it should be a wall or cliff of as much firepower as is possible to cram into a 'economical' battleship design as possible. There is no excess size or mass to the design, except where it would allow moar damage, thus the front end is a chiseled wedge or pair of horns. If it doesn't look like it could be agile enough to turn and bring a fearsome gundeck to bear on you/sink it's teeth into you should you stray too close, you're doing it wrong.
And while it may be organic it's also a space ship, if the more minor thrusters need to be somewhat away from the main bulk to function efficiently, they're fine being in thin nacelles rather than absorbed into an amorphous blob of a main hull. Equally the underslung drone bay is perfectly fine as is. Extra parts should look like limbs/organs rather than cancers.
And it certainly shouldn't have bloody sansha/caldari spikes.
In short CCP, bin this bad idea and do some proper work on the caldari hulls. Or a possibly more lightweight dominix, not a fatter Mega.
It's not fatter so much as it has been reduced in 'weight', (as you put it), on the rear section of the ship/model. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Daneel Trevize
Give my 11percent back
239
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Posted - 2012.10.08 17:50:00 -
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No it's just smeared in length and pulled the elbows in. The whole point of the original was clearly up front brutish brawler. It's a fight bull, huge shoulders, head down, charge in, small back limbs. |
Mars Theran
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
342
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Posted - 2012.10.08 18:23:00 -
[63] - Quote
I actually like it better than the original. I might think it could be changed a bit conceptually speaking, but it's still much nicer, and that is just a drawing, (a good one without a doubt), rather than a model we are seeing in game. The end result will probably be much nicer with full textures and depth, dimensionally speaking. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Crispin McTarmac
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2012.10.08 18:34:00 -
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I like the sideways structure under hardpoint 7, starship designs ought to have much more mc escher stuff like that. Evidence of cyclotrons is cool too, if only there was a way to make them slowly light up as the guns fire until they're white-hot |
Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
844
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Posted - 2012.10.08 19:31:00 -
[65] - Quote
Mars Theran wrote:http://i.imgur.com/sgapA.jpg Forgive the lack of real effort; I used Paint, and it really doesn't do much. I'd extend that Bridge tower back and down from there, and off the rear of the model as it is now. Sort of a sloping, bridge section with probably a galley looking out off the back. Here's a few red lines to help; sorry, not much of an artist anymore. http://i.imgur.com/Lwekf.jpg
The concept art is much much better than the current model. I also think Mars' efforts above would improve this further.
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Aaron Barton
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.10.08 20:22:00 -
[66] - Quote
The redesign is nice. Though I will agree with the previous sentiment that the Megathron has been streamlined a bit too much.
My biggest gripe though is the eighth hardpoint. I'd have liked to have seen the structure on which the seventh hardpoint is placed to have been expanded just enough to fit the eighth hardpoint. I think the visual of a 4-2-2 clustered setup is pretty cool. It looks more focused, you know? |
Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
844
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Posted - 2012.10.08 21:12:00 -
[67] - Quote
Aaron Barton wrote:The redesign is nice. Though I will agree with the previous sentiment that the Megathron has been streamlined a bit too much.
My biggest gripe though is the eighth hardpoint. I'd have liked to have seen the structure on which the seventh hardpoint is placed to have been expanded just enough to fit the eighth hardpoint. I think the visual of a 4-2-2 clustered setup is pretty cool. It looks more focused, you know?
How about 5-3? |
Aaron Barton
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.10.08 21:23:00 -
[68] - Quote
Solhild wrote:Aaron Barton wrote:The redesign is nice. Though I will agree with the previous sentiment that the Megathron has been streamlined a bit too much.
My biggest gripe though is the eighth hardpoint. I'd have liked to have seen the structure on which the seventh hardpoint is placed to have been expanded just enough to fit the eighth hardpoint. I think the visual of a 4-2-2 clustered setup is pretty cool. It looks more focused, you know? How about 5-3?
I'd be perfectly happy with 5-3 if the Kronos weren't around. My reasoning is that the four hardpoints at the front of the Kronos are the perfect place for the four guns.
A nice compromise would be to have a 5-3 setup for the Megathron (and the Navy Megathron and the Vindicator perhaps) and a 4-2-2 or 4-whatever setup for the Kronos. It isn't that bad an idea since T2 ships often do have visual differences from their T1 base.
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
41
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Posted - 2012.10.08 21:25:00 -
[69] - Quote
Add animated texture accents like on Machariel. Maybe some animated structures on bridge. About WIS |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
777
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Posted - 2012.10.08 21:36:00 -
[70] - Quote
What he said
CCP my underwear is going crazy, jesus ! brb |
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Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
57
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Posted - 2012.10.08 21:38:00 -
[71] - Quote
it still looks a little like edf1, so it's not changed hugely |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
777
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Posted - 2012.10.08 21:46:00 -
[72] - Quote
Daneel Trevize wrote:It's the blaster gunboat, looking up at it from your hanger it should be a wall or cliff of as much firepower as is possible to cram into a 'economical' battleship design as possible.
Noes. Blaster gunboat is Hyperion. Megathron makes them work better because Hyperion slots layout and bonuses are completely horrible. That tracking bonus sure it's really awesome when you use blasters and T2 long range ammo, but It's meant to make Rails work so much better... if those were not that bad coupled with an horrible tanking mode.
Quote:And while it may be organic it's also a space ship, if the more minor thrusters need to be somewhat away from the main bulk to function efficiently, they're fine being in thin nacelles rather than absorbed into an amorphous blob of a main hull. Equally the underslung drone bay is perfectly fine as is. Extra parts should look like limbs/organs rather than cancers or bits being tucked in. It need pull its elbows in for no one.
What the heck your trying to do there? -Mega is perfect, at least it was but CCP manages to make it EvEn better, they did the impossible !!!
And noes noes and double noes to that crap organic thing, there's already that ugliest thing ever named Dominix !! I almost puke just thinking about it.
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Deise Koraka
Caldari Investigations and Forensics
54
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Posted - 2012.10.08 23:33:00 -
[73] - Quote
Well, this is pretty neat.
Always good to see new ship models. ____________________________ I am a carebear, and I support High Sec ganking and PvP. Just please, don't blow up my Hulk*. <3
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Daneel Trevize
Give my 11percent back
240
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Posted - 2012.10.09 08:01:00 -
[74] - Quote
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:noes noes and double noes to that crap organic thing I was trying to justify how the current rear limbs of the mega are fine being more concave than convex, and protruding rather then bulbous.
As for Gal being organically styled, if you didn't know this I've got news for you: Navitas - it was a straight-up fish Proteus - hammerhead shark/whale/sea dragon Thorax - **** & ball(s) Vexor - crustacean Brutix - look at those flowing shapes, dat chin |
J Kunjeh
404
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Posted - 2012.10.09 19:33:00 -
[75] - Quote
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Megathron has never been a good looking ship for me. I don't understand what people see in it. That's just me.
The Megathron is the best looking ship model in the game, I think. To me, it's that iconic look of the front end of a Stingray Corvette, smashed onto the back end of a nuclear submarine. Awesome.
"The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
607
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Posted - 2012.10.09 20:12:00 -
[76] - Quote
TharOkha wrote:Bring black vindicator back pleeeease
i still have a 3 billion isk vindi i refuse to fly due to its silly paint job...
Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point? -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
101
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Posted - 2012.10.09 20:25:00 -
[77] - Quote
Too much pod racer look. And CCP needs to be more practical about its placement of hardpoints. They seem to have this liking for old school pirate broadside salvos. "Arrrr matey knock your wheels off and aim ye cannon to gut her in the bilge..." |
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
101
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Posted - 2012.10.09 20:37:00 -
[78] - Quote
Crrrazy Ivan wrote:Would've preferred the Domi to get a redesign since the Mega was always visually appealing, at least to me.
Yeah, less "space potato" would be cool. The domi looks too front loaded. |
Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
179
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Posted - 2012.10.09 21:20:00 -
[79] - Quote
Daneel Trevize wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:noes noes and double noes to that crap organic thing I was trying to justify how the current rear limbs of the mega are fine being more concave than convex, and protruding rather then bulbous. As for Gal being organically styled, if you didn't know this I've got news for you: Navitas - it was a straight-up fish Proteus - hammerhead shark/whale/sea dragon Thorax - **** & ball(s) Vexor - crustacean Brutix - look at those flowing shapes, dat chin
Let's not forget the Erebus - Jay Leno
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F'elch
Wall Street Trading
4
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Posted - 2012.10.09 21:22:00 -
[80] - Quote
I have never owned a megathron but I am appropriately offended by the redesign. |
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Zeran Kariashi
The Scope Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.10.09 22:58:00 -
[81] - Quote
Looks fine to me (the bridge is a nice touch), though the current design isn't bad either, but just don't forget give the Domi some love....Drone spewing...bike-seat looking thing (that is so ugly I can't look directly at it) of doom! |
Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
339
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Posted - 2012.10.09 23:32:00 -
[82] - Quote
Alexa Coates wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Thank god CCP are addressing the real issues that face EVE players today. oh my ******* god damn ccp is more than one person, they can do multiple ******* things. get this through your head you fucksticks. So true. But can they execute with quality on those projects?
+++++++ I have never shed a tear for a fellow EVE player until now. Mark GÇ£SeleeneGÇ¥ Heard's Blog Honoring Sean "Vile Rat" Smith. |
Mund Richard
6
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Posted - 2012.10.10 20:22:00 -
[83] - Quote
Shizuken wrote:Too much pod racer look. And CCP needs to be more practical about its placement of hardpoints. They seem to have this liking for old school pirate broadside salvos. "Arrrr matey knock your wheels off and aim ye cannon to gut her in the bilge..." That, or a muscle car.
Might be me, but I like my ships a bit more "brick", without huge structures that would twist and bend when making a "sharp turn". (ok, so battleships don't possibly make large turns, but imagine the inertia on the forward "limbs" at a slow turn even - inertia stabilizer fields are nice to explain how it's possible, but you don't quite feel them.) Just imagine, how it would be, if after the shields failing, some frigates would get between the Mega's two structure-parts at the front, kill at the drones coming out, and once almost none are left, one of them goes for the heat exhaust above the drone exit bay...
Then again, I know my sense of aesthetic is off, for I like the Dominix. Feels like a humongous piece of brick when you fly a battleship for the first time. Explains all the loss of speed and gain of mass. Makes you feel that it's a lumbering giant that can take on those "legendary" level four missions, and come out top.
After a while you realize it's only 894 meters at the axis, compared to a Hyperion at 1509. Always wondered at the start of playing why it doesn't have a speed or MWD bonus like the humongous Thorax it could be with all the sleekness and FEEL of speed it has. (Then again, some use it shield tanked with MWD I suppose)
Broadsides... ... reminds me, still haven't got to buying that Mael, load it with 1400mms, and unleash it at some frigates in some asteroids. Preferably in a n00b system, next to folk mining in a frigate. Even if I won't hit anything at all unless I shoot at asteroids. |
Endymi Typhirr
26
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Posted - 2012.11.10 17:38:00 -
[84] - Quote
So far, I love the changes. I'd like to think it was my comments about adding a glowing/spinning bit to the circles on the arms/legs while I was checking it out on Buckingham that got them to add it, but I probably wasn't the only one to think so. :P
In any case, one thing I do not like with the current iteration is the top part, next to/below the bridge, is too "exposed" and seems to add a weaker/ravaged look that's more Minmatar style. It takes away from the feeling of being a "muscle car" as Mund Richard mentioned in the post above, which I think is a pretty accurate description of what it implies with its new design.
So, rather than the exposed area at that part of the ship, I think it should be plated/covered--as the current Kronos is. Not necessarily the same design, but covered. Elsewhere, it looks good, but adding it to the rear part of the ship just makes it look weaker.
Also, not a fan of the antenna spikes in the front of the ship as they don't fit and take away from the sleekness of the ship. I'm not sold on the two spikes coming off the windowed top bridge (previously cannon-looking thing?) area either, but I wouldn't mind those as much.
That's all I can think of for now for the basic Megathron hull.
Kronos: I'm waiting to see what changes you're going through on the Kronos's next iteration before I get too much into it. Currently I like the idea of the changes to tailor to the 4-gun setup, but the changes to the top bridge/fin look too squashed (maybe just due to quick model changes) and more like the back of a beetle with its wings out, than anything else. I like the idea, though, but this implementation doesn't strike me as ideal.
Other than that, I prefer the separation of the leg "casts" that the mega design has (the gap) rather than the "solid" design of the Kronos'.
"Arrrr matey knock your wheels off and aim ye cannon to gut her in the bilge..." --Shizuken Concord LP Channel and Mailing List For buying and selling of Concord LP and related items |
Merovee
Gorthaur Legion Of Mordor
62
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Posted - 2012.11.10 18:19:00 -
[85] - Quote
The ass-end should be a little wider, but looks good. The domi always reminds me of a buffalo head, maybe some horns (hard points) on top would be nice. |
Endymi Typhirr
26
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Posted - 2012.11.10 18:36:00 -
[86] - Quote
One other thing, the change from a big curve on the front end of the old Mega hull, versus the new harsh slant with the change seems a bit much. Perhaps a less extreme angle, or re-adding more of a gentle curve on the front? Somewhere in between would be nice, but the sudden slope doesn't feel Gallente-like to me and the curve, even if subtle, is part of what makes it retain its style.
On that note, I also think it would be better to have the lights aiming straight forward, or just slightly lower, rather than at the angle they are at now (which follows the front of the ship). Concord LP Channel and Mailing List For buying and selling of Concord LP and related items |
Endymi Typhirr
30
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Posted - 2012.11.19 08:00:00 -
[87] - Quote
So, again, concerning the latest change with the new open part at the center-rear of the Megathron where the engines are: Way too exposed, same argument I gave above: Too open! You're taking off all the armored bits that make the Megathron look strong!
So, STAHP this madness and put the plates (as per the current Kronos) on, and put the cover back on the engines. This is starting to get silly. Next I suppose we'll just remove all the plating and put some lights there instead. At that point, shall we just paint it with rust and make it a Minmatar ship? Concord LP Channel and Mailing List For buying and selling of Concord LP and related items |
James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1302
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Posted - 2012.11.19 08:04:00 -
[88] - Quote
I think the new Megathron is gorgeous. Vindicator and Kronos are also beautiful.
Haven't really taken that close of a look yet at the Stabber and Tempest hulls or their derivatives yet. Last I checked the textures on the Vagabond were still very much a work in progress. |
Beekeeper Bob
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
295
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Posted - 2012.11.19 08:37:00 -
[89] - Quote
Alexa Coates wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Thank god CCP are addressing the real issues that face EVE players today. oh my ******* god damn ccp is more than one person, they can do multiple ******* things. get this through your head you fucksticks.
Yep, looks like a major expansion to me......
And does anyone really fly a mega anymore? Can't remember the last time I saw one in a fleet or gang. "Paranoia is the number one killer of idiots and Republicans." |
Keen Fallsword
Skyway Patrol
92
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Posted - 2012.11.19 09:57:00 -
[90] - Quote
Oh ok redesign, but its still the same useless blaster boat soo... Why you posting this ? :) |
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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
2988
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Posted - 2012.11.19 16:46:00 -
[91] - Quote
What I really like about the new Megathron is how all the added detail to the skin adds to the sense of scale. It just looks and feels more like a BIG ship now CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |-á@ccp_guard |
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Mire Stoude
Aliastra Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2012.11.19 17:14:00 -
[92] - Quote
Crrrazy Ivan wrote:Would've preferred the Domi to get a redesign since the Mega was always visually appealing, at least to me.
Never change the backwards horse head. |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
1948
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Posted - 2012.11.19 17:18:00 -
[93] - Quote
Is there a proper desktop wallpaper that showcases the new mega and one for the tempest?
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
368
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Posted - 2012.11.19 20:57:00 -
[94] - Quote
CCP Guard wrote:What I really like about the new Megathron is how all the added detail to the skin adds to the sense of scale. It just looks and feels more like a BIG ship now Totally agree with this. |
Keen Fallsword
Skyway Patrol
92
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Posted - 2012.11.19 21:14:00 -
[95] - Quote
CCP Guard wrote:What I really like about the new Megathron is how all the added detail to the skin adds to the sense of scale. It just looks and feels more like a BIG ship now
I was always thinking that you cant see scale without any reference object that you know from real life. Maybe that's why Police is using black and white boards for this.. but now i know that I was wrong! Thank you CCP Guard :) |
YuuKnow
Inner 5phere
433
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Posted - 2012.11.20 00:56:00 -
[96] - Quote
CCP Guard wrote:What I really like about the new Megathron is how all the added detail to the skin adds to the sense of scale. It just looks and feels more like a BIG ship now
This.
The engine glow effects are really awesome too. Has a nice ripple effect that is really dynamic. I'm hoping that all Gallente ships will be upgraded with these effects eventually. The new glowing tail-light is sweet too.
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Jerick Ludhowe
The Nyan Cat Pirates Nyanpire
208
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Posted - 2012.11.20 01:33:00 -
[97] - Quote
CCP Guard wrote:What I really like about the new Megathron is how all the added detail to the skin adds to the sense of scale. It just looks and feels more like a BIG ship now
Compensating!
It's ok, I'm short too and surprisingly also like the "big" feel the new detail on the megathron adds... Coincidence?
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
223
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Posted - 2012.11.20 01:41:00 -
[98] - Quote
A little less droop on the twin bow and it would be the meanest looking ship in space. Hell, I might even fly one.
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TharOkha
0asis Group
140
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Posted - 2012.11.20 12:52:00 -
[99] - Quote
CCP Guard wrote:What I really like about the new Megathron is how all the added detail to the skin adds to the sense of scale. It just looks and feels more like a BIG ship now
Next stop - Capital ships remodeling and retexturing. its realy weird when window on titan (one yelow pixel) is larger than my cruiser. GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
756
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Posted - 2012.11.20 13:15:00 -
[100] - Quote
It seems odd to redo the already fine looking Megathron and not completely redo the Dominix. This is not a signature. |
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sonny2dap
Wakoponeta Zippytie Co.
1
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Posted - 2012.11.20 14:36:00 -
[101] - Quote
yeah im glad to see everyone pointing out the domi needs to be completely reworked, personally I'd like to see a design that acknowledges it is a drone boat in the same manner that the Algos does.
OT new megathron looks to not be quite so curved and is certainly a nice tweak, but come on CCP lets get a new domi model with visible drone hangar/s. |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10715
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Posted - 2012.11.20 15:00:00 -
[102] - Quote
The Mega was my favourite ship of all. The Navy and Vindi being the best of the models. Then someone at CCP, (who is a sandwich short of a picnic) decided camo looked far better and changed them.
Now it seems an already great looking ship needs to be changed so it's more 'meh' to match it's god awful camo.
Good job.
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Hua Taiji
The Destined
0
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Posted - 2012.11.20 19:49:00 -
[103] - Quote
Looks good.
Really liking all of the changes they're making. The tempest hulls look amazing as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fELKxybxodg
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