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Amber Green Thorn
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.30 20:01:00 -
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Dust 514 will interface with EVE as we know; but why did CCP not have the big sweaty nads to use their new MMO concept to again interface with EVE as Dust will do on the Playstation?
They have a backstory - a playerbase - a whole universe etc etc............... but they've gone solo with some vamp thing. Seriously why?? Too many eggs in the one basket?
Lets face it -- Sitting in Stations is not ever going to evolve into a full blown MMO environment. That isn't CCP's intention as it seems that it'll only ever be a sideshow for immersions sake.
Missed oportunity?
BTFW -
When 'the Door' does open -- our burnt out retinas will hopefully heal and adjust after the ethereal lights and harmonies
subside. I'm sure there will be a bar or cantina thing ;;;; (every MMO one almost) ;;;;which leads me to this question: this feature will be fine in stations with say 20 -30 people in them; but what will the local cantina in Jita be like -- slightly overcrowded?? GFX cards exploding? Rips in time and fabric?
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Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
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Posted - 2011.09.30 20:32:00 -
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Because none of the backstory of WoD has anything to do with spaceships...
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Zagam
Incompertus INC
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.09.30 20:36:00 -
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bad troll is bad.
0/10. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.09.30 20:39:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:Because none of the backstory of WoD has anything to do with spaceships... Not entirely trueGǪ
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GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Richard Aiel
Southern Cross Knights
Order Of The Unforgiving
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Posted - 2011.09.30 21:01:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Xercodo wrote:Because none of the backstory of WoD has anything to do with spaceships... Not entirely trueGǪ
Yeah cause a few poddings an I gotta think everyone's gonna be acting a little Malkavian. I cant imagine the immortality the pod program provides doesnt dent their sanity at least a little O.o
"If the unfaithful would rage-quit, let them do so. And let not the gates of New Eden strike them 'pon the ass ere they leave."
Quoth the Hillmar |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.09.30 21:08:00 -
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Richard Aiel wrote:Yeah cause a few poddings an I gotta think everyone's gonna be acting a little Malkavian. I was thinking more along the lines of Sons of Ether.
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GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Amber Green Thorn
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.30 21:09:00 -
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Sigh -- I know WOD is not science fiction.
I'm fruitlessly (it seems) pointing out that the effort that has gone into WOD could have been better served by integrating CCP's new MMO into the EVE universe. Just like Dust.
The trollsters above - just htf did you get so many 'likes' in the the new forums lifetime - it's only been a few weeks?? Quality of posts?? |
Tuggboat
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.30 21:18:00 -
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I'd really like to see space vampires. The whole pirate thing is so juvenile. lets move up to teenagers now. |
Florestan Bronstein
United Engineering Services
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Posted - 2011.09.30 21:29:00 -
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Amber Green Thorn wrote:Sigh -- I know WOD is not science fiction.
I'm fruitlessly (it seems) pointing out that the effort that has gone into WOD could have been better served by integrating CCP's new MMO into the EVE universe. Just like Dust.
it's called not putting all your eggs into one basket...
who knows if anybody will care about the Science Fiction-themed MMOs in a few years ...
or maybe some other MMO franchise grows to dominate that market segment completely ...
CCP bought an entire dark fanatsy/alternate reality universe/backstory with the White Wolf purchase and the popularity (and customerbase) of that genre is probably not too closely linked to SciFi & spaceships. |
Meryl SinGarda
Homeworld Republic
United Homeworlds
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Posted - 2011.09.30 21:31:00 -
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Welcome to the EVE forums. Repetition is our game, change is our fear.
Fly Safe, Die Hard
As stated by a fellow player, Mara Rinn, "EVE is not an internet spaceships game. It's a game of politics, subterfuge, capitalism, empire building and trust."-á
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Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.30 21:41:00 -
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Couldn't you whip up something a bit vampiric with the Blood Raiders?
I'm thinking something along the lines of "ancient dormant evil awakens in Blood Raiders, connecting them with the vampire lines from Earth's past" |
Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
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Posted - 2011.09.30 21:53:00 -
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: Mildly annoyed
CCP could have used the resources that they have spent on WoD on making WiS a separate MMO in of itself. But I feel that CCP wanted to create something new, as girtty as EVE, and that could tap into the same demographic they tap into with Scifi themed game but in the vampire genre.
New Fun + Diversification = ?
or
Coming up with enough fluff to justify making WiS stand alone.
Slade
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Jonni Favorite
Sundown Logistics
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:00:00 -
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There's a gaping hole in the vamp game market, are u kidding? Wod will probably do very well! |
Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:08:00 -
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Jonni Favorite wrote:There's a gaping hole in the vamp game market, are u kidding? Wod will probably do very well!
Depending on how CCP goes about it, WoD will probably be similar to Eve. It will be perceived more as a niche game and have a slow and steady growth. A link between WoD and Eve is silly though and really shouldn't be.
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Amber Green Thorn
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:22:00 -
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Dear gawd !!
The OP (me!) made the point that instead of doing a separate vampire MMO why CCp did not do an MMO that's tied into EVE? Like an extension of Incarna where us walking in stations to a limited degree meets a full blown MMO. Forget about vampires and space --
Don't troll please .
Likes received: 376 (honest guv)
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non judgement
Evolved from the Wreck
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.30 23:08:00 -
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Ignoring the silliness of this.
But I'd say that once they have something like WoD/Carbon running and tested.
I think the plan is that the technology in Carbon can easily be used to make other MMOs. If that is what you're getting at.
I think it'd be easy to do something like that. But it'd have to be something that has a good market. |
Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.09.30 23:45:00 -
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Amber Green Thorn wrote:Dear gawd !!
The OP (me!) made the point that instead of doing a separate vampire MMO why CCp did not do an MMO that's tied into EVE? Like an extension of Incarna where us walking in stations to a limited degree meets a full blown MMO. Forget about vampires and space --
Don't troll please .
Likes received: 376 (honest guv)
Its because the WoD theme/storyline is interesting and makes more sense when it comes to releasing another MMO. As much as I do love Eve, I don't think EVERYTHING CCP does should revolve around Eve. Also the decision to make WOD to my understanding was part of the merger agreement with White Wolf. |
Amber Green Thorn
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.30 23:50:00 -
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Quote:Ignoring the silliness of this.
But I'd say that once they have something like WoD/Carbon running and tested.
I may as well have done a dump on your head -- you'd be discussing Plato or some crap ...
Start your own thread - mindless tardotwat |
non judgement
Evolved from the Wreck
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.30 23:55:00 -
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Amber Green Thorn wrote:Quote:Ignoring the silliness of this.
But I'd say that once they have something like WoD/Carbon running and tested. I may as well have done a dump on your head -- you'd be discussing Plato or some crap ... Start your own thread - mindless tardotwat
Lovely.
You're getting me all hot and excited.
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Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:00:00 -
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Amber Green Thorn wrote:Dear gawd !!
The OP (me!) made the point that instead of doing a separate vampire MMO why CCp did not do an MMO that's tied into EVE? Like an extension of Incarna where us walking in stations to a limited degree meets a full blown MMO. Forget about vampires and space --
Don't troll please .
Likes received: 376 (honest guv)
Because that is Incarna, the Carbon framework is applied to all three games so there is hardly any WoD stuff that CCP has done that didnt effect EVE positively. From what I can tell the only devs working WoD are Carbon devs that are working in tandem with EVE dev on Incarna, 1 or 2 art devs to make concepts, and one or two marketing guys that slowly getting the word out to the existing communities that actually care about WoD.
You'll notice, though, that there is almost no info about WoD yet or any in-game trailers or any details on game mechanics. They're probably only spending 5-10% of resources on it.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:03:00 -
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Amber Green Thorn wrote:Dear gawd !!
why CCp did not do an MMO that's tied into EVE]?
Good idea.
Maybe make it an FPS or something to appeal to a wider demographic. And they could make it for platforms so that the un-PC masses can enjoy EVE in a way.
Mr Epeen 
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Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:04:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:Amber Green Thorn wrote:Dear gawd !!
The OP (me!) made the point that instead of doing a separate vampire MMO why CCp did not do an MMO that's tied into EVE? Like an extension of Incarna where us walking in stations to a limited degree meets a full blown MMO. Forget about vampires and space --
Don't troll please .
Likes received: 376 (honest guv)
Because that is Incarna, the Carbon framework is applied to all three games so there is hardly any WoD stuff that CCP has done that didnt effect EVE positively. From what I can tell the only devs working WoD are Carbon devs that are working in tandem with EVE dev on Incarna, 1 or 2 art devs to make concepts, and one or two marketing guys that slowly getting the word out to the existing communities that actually care about WoD.
You can correct me if I'm wrong. But I don't actually think Dust is using the Carbon framework other then the link on the Eve side. From my understanding Dust is completely run off the UR3 engine. |
Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:07:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:Xercodo wrote:
Because that is Incarna, the Carbon framework is applied to all three games so there is hardly any WoD stuff that CCP has done that didnt effect EVE positively. From what I can tell the only devs working WoD are Carbon devs that are working in tandem with EVE dev on Incarna, 1 or 2 art devs to make concepts, and one or two marketing guys that slowly getting the word out to the existing communities that actually care about WoD.
You can correct me if I'm wrong. But I don't actually think Dust is using the Carbon framework other then the link on the Eve side. From my understanding Dust is completely run off the UR3 engine.
Yes in that regard you are right
But my point was its relevance to the work on Incarna and WoD mostly. 
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Amber Green Thorn
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:07:00 -
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Wasn't about carbon or engines or vampires... just... about .....slips into sleep knowing that the geeks , trolls and retards in the world are happy................._________________________________________flatline_________________________________________- |
non judgement
Evolved from the Wreck
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:09:00 -
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Amber Green Thorn wrote:Wasn't about carbon or engines or vampires... just... about .....slips into sleep knowing that the geeks , trolls and retards in the world are happy................._________________________________________flatline_________________________________________-
Have you tried relaxing a little bit? |
Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:10:00 -
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Amber Green Thorn wrote:Wasn't about carbon or engines or vampires... just... about .....slips into sleep knowing that the geeks , trolls and retards in the world are happy................._________________________________________flatline_________________________________________-
Its actually because your OP didn't make much sense and was crap. So we decided to discuss other things.
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Amber Green Thorn
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:11:00 -
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Ponce |
Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:14:00 -
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Amber Green Thorn wrote:Wasn't about carbon or engines or vampires... just... about .....slips into sleep knowing that the geeks , trolls and retards in the world are happy................._________________________________________flatline_________________________________________-
The Carbon engine is the reason why CCP didn't do something like making a second EVE WiS MMO, the Carbon engine allows them to develop on an unrelated MMO and have it augment EVE too for Incarna.
That and Incarna to my knowledge runs on a separate node or something so it might as well be a separate MMO :P (or something....you know what I mean lol)
and btw i got these likes myself, i dont troll
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Amber Green Thorn
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:16:00 -
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Total ponce |
Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
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Posted - 2011.10.01 00:22:00 -
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hahaha you should see when i RP, my char is a bit of a ponce :P
but see here I can see what you mean if you were to say it's faked class, but how the hell do you fake intelligence without someone else that IS intelligent writing the script for you?
Everything I've said is to the best of my knowledge so feel free to correct me or rephrase the question ^^
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