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Amber Green Thorn Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2011.09.30 20:01:00 - [1] - Quote Dust 514 will interface with EVE as we know; but why did CCP not have the big sweaty nads to use their new MMO concept to again interface with EVE as Dust will do on the Playstation? They have a backstory - a playerbase - a whole universe etc etc............... but they've gone solo with some vamp thing. Seriously why?? Too many eggs in the one basket? Lets face it -- Sitting in Stations is not ever going to evolve into a full blown MMO environment. That isn't CCP's intention as it seems that it'll only ever be a sideshow for immersions sake. Missed oportunity? BTFW - When 'the Door' does open -- our burnt out retinas will hopefully heal and adjust after the ethereal lights and harmonies subside. I'm sure there will be a bar or cantina thing ;;;; (every MMO one almost) ;;;;which leads me to this question: this feature will be fine in stations with say 20 -30 people in them; but what will the local cantina in Jita be like -- slightly overcrowded?? GFX cards exploding? Rips in time and fabric?
Xercodo Xovoni Directorate 75	Posted - 2011.09.30 20:32:00 - [2] - Quote Because none of the backstory of WoD has anything to do with spaceships... The Drake is a Lie
Zagam Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension 132	Posted - 2011.09.30 20:36:00 - [3] - Quote bad troll is bad. 0/10.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 241	Posted - 2011.09.30 20:39:00 - [4] - Quote Xercodo wrote: Because none of the backstory of WoD has anything to do with spaceships... Not entirely trueGÇª GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Richard Aiel Southern Cross Knights Order Of The Unforgiving 23	Posted - 2011.09.30 21:01:00 - [5] - Quote Tippia wrote: Xercodo wrote: Because none of the backstory of WoD has anything to do with spaceships... Not entirely trueGÇª Yeah cause a few poddings an I gotta think everyone's gonna be acting a little Malkavian. I cant imagine the immortality the pod program provides doesnt dent their sanity at least a little O.o "If the unfaithful would rage-quit, let them do so. And let not the gates of New Eden strike them 'pon the ass ere they leave." Quoth the Hillmar
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 241	Posted - 2011.09.30 21:08:00 - [6] - Quote Richard Aiel wrote: Yeah cause a few poddings an I gotta think everyone's gonna be acting a little Malkavian. I was thinking more along the lines of Sons of Ether. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Amber Green Thorn Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2011.09.30 21:09:00 - [7] - Quote Sigh -- I know WOD is not science fiction. I'm fruitlessly (it seems) pointing out that the effort that has gone into WOD could have been better served by integrating CCP's new MMO into the EVE universe. Just like Dust. The trollsters above - just htf did you get so many 'likes' in the the new forums lifetime - it's only been a few weeks?? Quality of posts??
Tuggboat Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 4	Posted - 2011.09.30 21:18:00 - [8] - Quote I'd really like to see space vampires. The whole pirate thing is so juvenile. lets move up to teenagers now.
Florestan Bronstein United Engineering Services 77	Posted - 2011.09.30 21:29:00 - [9] - Quote Amber Green Thorn wrote: Sigh -- I know WOD is not science fiction. I'm fruitlessly (it seems) pointing out that the effort that has gone into WOD could have been better served by integrating CCP's new MMO into the EVE universe. Just like Dust. it's called not putting all your eggs into one basket... who knows if anybody will care about the Science Fiction-themed MMOs in a few years ... or maybe some other MMO franchise grows to dominate that market segment completely ... CCP bought an entire dark fanatsy/alternate reality universe/backstory with the White Wolf purchase and the popularity (and customerbase) of that genre is probably not too closely linked to SciFi & spaceships.
Meryl SinGarda Homeworld Republic United Homeworlds 229	Posted - 2011.09.30 21:31:00 - [10] - Quote Welcome to the EVE forums. Repetition is our game, change is our fear. Fly Safe, Die Hard As stated by a fellow player, Mara Rinn, "EVE is not an internet spaceships game. It's a game of politics, subterfuge, capitalism, empire building and trust."-á
Barbelo Valentinian The Scope Gallente Federation 51	Posted - 2011.09.30 21:41:00 - [11] - Quote Couldn't you whip up something a bit vampiric with the Blood Raiders? I'm thinking something along the lines of "ancient dormant evil awakens in Blood Raiders, connecting them with the vampire lines from Earth's past"
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc. 16	Posted - 2011.09.30 21:53:00 - [12] - Quote : Mildly annoyed CCP could have used the resources that they have spent on WoD on making WiS a separate MMO in of itself. But I feel that CCP wanted to create something new, as girtty as EVE, and that could tap into the same demographic they tap into with Scifi themed game but in the vampire genre. New Fun + Diversification = ? or Coming up with enough fluff to justify making WiS stand alone. Slade
Jonni Favorite Sundown Logistics SpaceMonkey's Alliance 20	Posted - 2011.09.30 22:00:00 - [13] - Quote There's a gaping hole in the vamp game market, are u kidding? Wod will probably do very well!
Brooks Puuntai Nomadic Asylum 111	Posted - 2011.09.30 22:08:00 - [14] - Quote Jonni Favorite wrote: There's a gaping hole in the vamp game market, are u kidding? Wod will probably do very well! Depending on how CCP goes about it, WoD will probably be similar to Eve. It will be perceived more as a niche game and have a slow and steady growth. A link between WoD and Eve is silly though and really shouldn't be.
Amber Green Thorn Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2011.09.30 22:22:00 - [15] - Quote Dear gawd !! The OP (me!) made the point that instead of doing a separate vampire MMO why CCp did not do an MMO that's tied into EVE? Like an extension of Incarna where us walking in stations to a limited degree meets a full blown MMO. Forget about vampires and space -- Don't troll please . Likes received: 376 (honest guv)
non judgement Evolved from the Wreck Flying Burning Ships Alliance 27	Posted - 2011.09.30 23:08:00 - [16] - Quote Ignoring the silliness of this. But I'd say that once they have something like WoD/Carbon running and tested. I think the plan is that the technology in Carbon can easily be used to make other MMOs. If that is what you're getting at. I think it'd be easy to do something like that. But it'd have to be something that has a good market.
Brooks Puuntai Nomadic Asylum 112	Posted - 2011.09.30 23:45:00 - [17] - Quote Amber Green Thorn wrote: Dear gawd !! The OP (me!) made the point that instead of doing a separate vampire MMO why CCp did not do an MMO that's tied into EVE? Like an extension of Incarna where us walking in stations to a limited degree meets a full blown MMO. Forget about vampires and space -- Don't troll please . Likes received: 376 (honest guv) Its because the WoD theme/storyline is interesting and makes more sense when it comes to releasing another MMO. As much as I do love Eve, I don't think EVERYTHING CCP does should revolve around Eve. Also the decision to make WOD to my understanding was part of the merger agreement with White Wolf.
Amber Green Thorn Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2011.09.30 23:50:00 - [18] - Quote Quote: Ignoring the silliness of this. But I'd say that once they have something like WoD/Carbon running and tested. I may as well have done a dump on your head -- you'd be discussing Plato or some crap ... Start your own thread - mindless tardotwat
non judgement Evolved from the Wreck Flying Burning Ships Alliance 27	Posted - 2011.09.30 23:55:00 - [19] - Quote Amber Green Thorn wrote: Quote: Ignoring the silliness of this. But I'd say that once they have something like WoD/Carbon running and tested. I may as well have done a dump on your head -- you'd be discussing Plato or some crap ... Start your own thread - mindless tardotwat Lovely. You're getting me all hot and excited.
Xercodo Xovoni Directorate 75	Posted - 2011.10.01 00:00:00 - [20] - Quote Amber Green Thorn wrote: Dear gawd !! The OP (me!) made the point that instead of doing a separate vampire MMO why CCp did not do an MMO that's tied into EVE? Like an extension of Incarna where us walking in stations to a limited degree meets a full blown MMO. Forget about vampires and space -- Don't troll please . Likes received: 376 (honest guv) Because that is Incarna, the Carbon framework is applied to all three games so there is hardly any WoD stuff that CCP has done that didnt effect EVE positively. From what I can tell the only devs working WoD are Carbon devs that are working in tandem with EVE dev on Incarna, 1 or 2 art devs to make concepts, and one or two marketing guys that slowly getting the word out to the existing communities that actually care about WoD. You'll notice, though, that there is almost no info about WoD yet or any in-game trailers or any details on game mechanics. They're probably only spending 5-10% of resources on it. The Drake is a Lie
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 8	Posted - 2011.10.01 00:03:00 - [21] - Quote Amber Green Thorn wrote: Dear gawd !! why CCp did not do an MMO that's tied into EVE]? Good idea. Maybe make it an FPS or something to appeal to a wider demographic. And they could make it for platforms so that the un-PC masses can enjoy EVE in a way. Mr Epeen If you can read this, you haven't blocked me yet.
Brooks Puuntai Nomadic Asylum 112	Posted - 2011.10.01 00:04:00 - [22] - Quote Xercodo wrote: Amber Green Thorn wrote: Dear gawd !! The OP (me!) made the point that instead of doing a separate vampire MMO why CCp did not do an MMO that's tied into EVE? Like an extension of Incarna where us walking in stations to a limited degree meets a full blown MMO. Forget about vampires and space -- Don't troll please . Likes received: 376 (honest guv) Because that is Incarna, the Carbon framework is applied to all three games so there is hardly any WoD stuff that CCP has done that didnt effect EVE positively. From what I can tell the only devs working WoD are Carbon devs that are working in tandem with EVE dev on Incarna, 1 or 2 art devs to make concepts, and one or two marketing guys that slowly getting the word out to the existing communities that actually care about WoD. You can correct me if I'm wrong. But I don't actually think Dust is using the Carbon framework other then the link on the Eve side. From my understanding Dust is completely run off the UR3 engine.
Xercodo Xovoni Directorate 75	Posted - 2011.10.01 00:07:00 - [23] - Quote Brooks Puuntai wrote: Xercodo wrote: Because that is Incarna, the Carbon framework is applied to all three games so there is hardly any WoD stuff that CCP has done that didnt effect EVE positively. From what I can tell the only devs working WoD are Carbon devs that are working in tandem with EVE dev on Incarna, 1 or 2 art devs to make concepts, and one or two marketing guys that slowly getting the word out to the existing communities that actually care about WoD. You can correct me if I'm wrong. But I don't actually think Dust is using the Carbon framework other then the link on the Eve side. From my understanding Dust is completely run off the UR3 engine. Yes in that regard you are right But my point was its relevance to the work on Incarna and WoD mostly. The Drake is a Lie
Amber Green Thorn Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2011.10.01 00:07:00 - [24] - Quote Wasn't about carbon or engines or vampires... just... about .....slips into sleep knowing that the geeks , trolls and retards in the world are happy................._________________________________________flatline_________________________________________-
non judgement Evolved from the Wreck Flying Burning Ships Alliance 27	Posted - 2011.10.01 00:09:00 - [25] - Quote Amber Green Thorn wrote: Wasn't about carbon or engines or vampires... just... about .....slips into sleep knowing that the geeks , trolls and retards in the world are happy................._________________________________________flatline_________________________________________- Have you tried relaxing a little bit?
Brooks Puuntai Nomadic Asylum 112	Posted - 2011.10.01 00:10:00 - [26] - Quote Amber Green Thorn wrote: Wasn't about carbon or engines or vampires... just... about .....slips into sleep knowing that the geeks , trolls and retards in the world are happy................._________________________________________flatline_________________________________________- Its actually because your OP didn't make much sense and was crap. So we decided to discuss other things.
Amber Green Thorn Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2011.10.01 00:11:00 - [27] - Quote Ponce
Xercodo Xovoni Directorate 75	Posted - 2011.10.01 00:14:00 - [28] - Quote Amber Green Thorn wrote: Wasn't about carbon or engines or vampires... just... about .....slips into sleep knowing that the geeks , trolls and retards in the world are happy................._________________________________________flatline_________________________________________- The Carbon engine is the reason why CCP didn't do something like making a second EVE WiS MMO, the Carbon engine allows them to develop on an unrelated MMO and have it augment EVE too for Incarna. That and Incarna to my knowledge runs on a separate node or something so it might as well be a separate MMO :P (or something....you know what I mean lol) and btw i got these likes myself, i dont troll The Drake is a Lie
Amber Green Thorn Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2011.10.01 00:16:00 - [29] - Quote Total ponce
Xercodo Xovoni Directorate 75	Posted - 2011.10.01 00:22:00 - [30] - Quote hahaha you should see when i RP, my char is a bit of a ponce :P but see here I can see what you mean if you were to say it's faked class, but how the hell do you fake intelligence without someone else that IS intelligent writing the script for you? Everything I've said is to the best of my knowledge so feel free to correct me or rephrase the question ^^ The Drake is a Lie
Amber Green Thorn Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2011.10.01 00:27:00 - [31] - Quote Geeknotwat -- howzat!!!
Sadayiel Inner Conflict 4	Posted - 2011.10.01 00:28:00 - [32] - Quote 5/10 for another Whine post about CCP resources should be allocated entirely to EVE online, instead try something different. TL;DR : why CCp did not focus his resources from WoD to EVE and the Incarna resources to keep developing FiS instead WiS. P.S: In EVE there is Pirates it's natural evolution it's NINJA!! so they can balance themselves , later the evolution will keep kicking with zombie pirates and ninja robots.. !!!
Xercodo Xovoni Directorate 75	Posted - 2011.10.01 00:30:00 - [33] - Quote if you say "init" ima stab you.... The Drake is a Lie
Amber Green Thorn Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2011.10.01 00:36:00 - [34] - Quote 1/10 for whine post about the 5/10 whine post that pretty much says all that the10/10 whine posts made. Diminishing yes... 2/10 for effort 1/10 presentation Rubber glove up the jacksie cos you seriously require it... no.. you need it
Brooks Puuntai Nomadic Asylum 113	Posted - 2011.10.01 00:43:00 - [35] - Quote So indulge me if you will OP. What type of MMO where you thinking that CCP should make? I mean it can't really be a FPS style since that would conflict with Dust. While Eve does have quite a depth when it comes to lore/storyline, theres very little you could add game play wise when it comes to a separate MMO.
non judgement Evolved from the Wreck Flying Burning Ships Alliance 28	Posted - 2011.10.01 00:48:00 - [36] - Quote Brooks Puuntai wrote: So indulge me if you will OP. What type of MMO where you thinking that CCP should make? I mean it can't really be a FPS style since that would conflict with Dust. While Eve does have quite a depth when it comes to lore/storyline, theres very little you could add game play wise when it comes to a separate MMO. I think they mean a walking around, fighting or whatever MMO based in the Eve Universe. On the planets or something. Using all the Eve lore. ready for insult from OP
Amber Green Thorn Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2011.10.01 00:51:00 - [37] - Quote An MMO that extended beyond anything that Incarna everwill. An MMO in the EVE universe-- that's all .. perhaps overlapping with the limited ambulation we have now. maybe in the near future we join their world and the two entities can become a world where ships and a more conventional MMO exist - STO tried it and died. Opportunity to be had - for those that hate the idea they can exist happily in their ships. Sorry -- hate to see a -- well not fully rounded - argument get trolled and derailed like that
Xercodo Xovoni Directorate 75	Posted - 2011.10.01 01:18:00 - [38] - Quote Oh well in that case that is exactly what Incarna is planned to be. There is no reason for it to not be or for it to be separate. And this whole thread is now moot. The Drake is a Lie
Amber Green Thorn Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2011.10.01 01:22:00 - [39] - Quote You can stick that Drake up your arse -
Brooks Puuntai Nomadic Asylum 113	Posted - 2011.10.01 01:26:00 - [40] - Quote Yea pretty much you defined what Incarna is suppose to be and what Dust will be. So I don't see how this relates to WoD, since you did call them out initially.
non judgement Evolved from the Wreck Flying Burning Ships Alliance 28	Posted - 2011.10.01 01:58:00 - [41] - Quote I'll give it a shot... You'd have to have fighting of some sort. So I think maybe mostly with hand guns. Each of the four different race types of guns. Then I think also lots of high tech gadgets for defence like shields and armor (with very little hull tanking). Maybe traps or any sort of high tech things you can think of. scanners or whatever. Missions of course: can have courier, fighting, maybe spy missions where you have to use a cloak. Research agents? No mining. Could reseach tech and build equipement from material you pick up when you kill others people and npc. And a huge pvp area to do all this in. Sounds like an alright game. Maybe a bit like startrek but all EVE stuff?
Richard Hammond II Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 57	Posted - 2011.10.01 02:04:00 - [42] - Quote Amber Green Thorn wrote: Sigh -- I know WOD is not science fiction. I'm fruitlessly (it seems) pointing out that the effort that has gone into WOD could have been better served by integrating CCP's new MMO into the EVE universe. Just like Dust. The trollsters above - just htf did you get so many 'likes' in the the new forums lifetime - it's only been a few weeks?? Quality of posts?? trolls? dude, just cause ppl disagree with you dont make em trolls Plus, parts of WoD WERE Sci FI - well elements were, Sons of Ether are a good example, Virtual Adepts, Glass Walker Werewolves, sorta They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP
Amber Green Thorn Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2011.10.01 02:23:00 - [43] - Quote Just had a huge crap ...... It's horrible. Never mind.
non judgement Evolved from the Wreck Flying Burning Ships Alliance 28	Posted - 2011.10.01 02:27:00 - [44] - Quote lol
CATPAIN KIRK State War Academy Caldari State 11	Posted - 2011.10.01 02:34:00 - [45] - Quote I think you're idea is great - just have WOD players walk in stations and their the only ones capable of biting people. So heres the deal: when you get bitten you transform into a new race called VAMPIROID and get a bonus on enregy sucking gear, and their spaceships can only be hit by sliver bullets!
J Kunjeh 78	Posted - 2011.10.01 05:18:00 - [46] - Quote Seriously brilliant idea...as much as I love WoD's setting, there's just something kick-ass about Vamps flying Drakes. "The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á
Jaroslav Unwanted Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 9	Posted - 2011.10.01 08:08:00 - [47] - Quote I would say it got something to do with buyout of white-wolf and some agreement between CCP and white-wolf. Seems logical to me at least.
DickbeardThePirate LODSOFEMONE 0	Posted - 2011.10.01 09:55:00 - [48] - Quote http://i.imgur.com/XZEva.jpg
Kimiko Tojima Daughters of Hada 0	Posted - 2011.10.01 10:09:00 - [49] - Quote CCP would be very stupid to create a second workhorse that would compete with the first workhorse. WoD and DUST are being created with the least overlapping player base in mind. That's why DUST is meant for consoles only.
Brooks Puuntai Nomadic Asylum 116	Posted - 2011.10.01 10:17:00 - [50] - Quote This thread inspired me to go back and play VTM:Bloodlines. Also **** the Ocean House.
Herold Oldtimer Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1	Posted - 2011.10.01 10:23:00 - [51] - Quote Amber Green Thorn wrote: [i]Sigh[/iThe trollsters above - just htf did you get so many 'likes' in the the new forums lifetime - it's only been a few weeks?? Quality of posts?? They posted in the Likes and get likes thread :D
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 249	Posted - 2011.10.01 10:41:00 - [52] - Quote Herold Oldtimer wrote: Amber Green Thorn wrote: [i]Sigh[/iThe trollsters above - just htf did you get so many 'likes' in the the new forums lifetime - it's only been a few weeks?? Quality of posts?? They posted in the Likes and get likes thread :D NahGÇª I'm just that good. /smug. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Brooks Puuntai Nomadic Asylum 116	Posted - 2011.10.01 10:43:00 - [53] - Quote Herold Oldtimer wrote: Amber Green Thorn wrote: [i]Sigh[/iThe trollsters above - just htf did you get so many 'likes' in the the new forums lifetime - it's only been a few weeks?? Quality of posts?? They posted in the Likes and get likes thread :D I posted how dumb I thought it was. Didn't get any likes from it though, not really sure why either .
Jonni Favorite Sundown Logistics SpaceMonkey's Alliance 21	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:06:00 - [54] - Quote 8/10 for this post delivering a few giggles!

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