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EtherealPain	Posted - 2005.03.22 00:08:00 - [1] havent seen a post about this here yet, so i thought id bring it up. (p.s. havent gone on sisi yet but alliance mates have and posted screens of the stats on the UK forums) are these going to be 'Stealth' bombers? if so i say scrap the idea.... why fly a covert opps ship instead of a bomber? they should just be normal bombers imho... still i want one CHANGE THE NAME OF THE MINMATAR ONE! HOUND is just stupid.... now... Manticore, that sounds badass, hound dosnt...i say name the minmatar bomber something simmiler to Breacher, because thats what its baced off..... decimator? except not as 'uber' sounding idk, think of names people -------------------------------------- I saw a hobo once, he was holding a sign that said: Parents killed by ninjas, need money for samurai lessons. i gave him everything i had.... i hope he killed those damn ninjas
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2005.03.22 01:20:00 - [2] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 22/03/2005 01:20:32 Ever seen "hound of the Baskervilles" (sp) maybe ? Hounds rule, period. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Joker Girl	Posted - 2005.03.22 01:21:00 - [3] Sisi? What is this?
jamesw	Posted - 2005.03.22 01:54:00 - [4] Originally by: Joker Girl Sisi? What is this? Its the test server.... I got called that in school alot tbh -- jamesw Rubra Libertas Militia Originally by: RollinDutchMasters I fly a dominix, its like a portable blob in a can
Mistress Dominica	Posted - 2005.03.22 01:55:00 - [5] Edited by: Mistress Dominica on 22/03/2005 01:55:43 Someone post stats damnit. Must have stealth bomber
ErrorS	Posted - 2005.03.22 02:11:00 - [6] the stats don't show anything. Same reqs as covert ops but they have like 270 PG, kestrel version has 3 missle hardpoints and a low cargo capacity (150 or something). ________ I'm strict Caldari "The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think? -ErrorS
Nomen Nescio	Posted - 2005.03.22 02:16:00 - [7] They also heavy as a bricks, "kestrel" if like 2.8k tons. Speed of around 200. 5 highs. 5-2 and in between meds/lows. Says that they have -90% cpu to the mods which require "advanced gunnery". Targeting around 60km.
Ardor	Posted - 2005.03.22 02:37:00 - [8] I have an idea regarding bombers. Most likely the idea lab would be the better forum but here it is.... Most people think about bombers as improved missile boats. But bombs are not missiles. When I think about a bomb I usually think about weighty things that fall down from air planes (bombers) because of gravity (and because there is a war, argh). Of course there are 'stationary' bombs, too. My idea about bombers is that they are ships that can drop the new weapon type bomb. In space there is no gravity (do not argue...) so it wont fall 'down'. A bomb doesnt have its own propulsion like missiles/torpedos so a bomb cant change direction. Speed and direction of the bomb is a result of the speed and direction of the bomber at the time the bomber dropped the bomb.
archangel sean	Posted - 2005.03.22 02:49:00 - [9] Originally by: Ardor I have an idea regarding bombers. Most likely the idea lab would be the better forum but here it is.... Most people think about bombers as improved missile boats. But bombs are not missiles. When I think about a bomb I usually think about weighty things that fall down from air planes (bombers) because of gravity (and because there is a war, argh). Of course there are 'stationary' bombs, too. My idea about bombers is that they are ships that can drop the new weapon type bomb. In space there is no gravity (do not argue...) so it wont fall 'down'. A bomb doesnt have its own propulsion like missiles/torpedos so a bomb cant change direction. Speed and direction of the bomb is a result of the speed and direction of the bomber at the time the bomber dropped the bomb. And these bombs do around 1k damage each, so a squad of them can be deadly to capital ships! ...sounds nice..^^
Gabriel BriGGs	Posted - 2005.03.22 04:33:00 - [10] hound is a bada$$ transformer who lobs rockets! -------------------------------------------- I've had the same Gurista Imputor on my tail for the past 16 systems.. 2004.08.16 21:38:37 - Combat: Your 250mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes Blood Sage, wrecking for 324.9 damage.

babylonstew	Posted - 2005.03.22 12:19:00 - [11] check out the stealth modules on the obex. its lists 4 sizes of mod to reduce your sig rad, but the large requires an awfull lot of cpu, maybe stealth bombers get a bonus to use these? i think it was 250 cpu or something (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Jim Steele	Posted - 2005.03.22 12:25:00 - [12] hmm the placeholders only have limited stats so im sure they are still being tested, as for why get a covertops over a bomber, well you are forgetting the new bonus they get to probe launchers, Bombers will get no such bonus. Death to the Galante
Glarion Garnier	Posted - 2005.03.22 12:56:00 - [13] I wan't a metacraft
Streetrip	Posted - 2005.03.23 00:52:00 - [14] call minmatar one wolverine :)
H0ot	Posted - 2005.03.23 01:04:00 - [15] Hound screenshots please? (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Selim	Posted - 2005.03.23 02:43:00 - [16] Edited by: Selim on 23/03/2005 02:43:11 Isn't it kind of getting old, how they keep making the caldari ones the best at what they are supposed to be doing? Interceptors: Crow, its the second/third fastest overall inty after malediction and maybe crusader, with 3 midslots for web and scrambler Assault frigates: Good damage over super range and decent resists Covert ops: Most CPU and midslots And now the bomber has the most missile slots? I mean, yeah, the caldari are supposed to be missile *****s, but when the WHOLE SHIP CLASS is apparently meant to be based on missiles, don't you think that precedent needs to be broken? At the very least, give the minmatar one the same amount of missiles... jeez. Its like making a ship class entirely based on drones, and making all of them kinda crappy compared to the gallente one. It may seem OK but its not. In this situation, they should be pretty equal. Differences being in order of HP - Minmatar, Gallente, Caldari, Amarr - speed being the opposite. Differences based on CPU and powergrid amount, lock range and sensor scan res, and something else too. I also second the motion of changing the Hound's name... thats kinda lame.
Sadist	Posted - 2005.03.23 02:54:00 - [17] Quote: Its like making a ship class entirely based on drones, and making all of them kinda crappy compared to the gallente one. It may seem OK but its not. When are we looking at drone carrier ships and tech 2 drones? They better come soon for all of us gallente lovers _______________________________________________
Naphtalia	Posted - 2005.03.23 19:58:00 - [18] where did you get the 270 grid info?
Jim Raynor	Posted - 2005.03.23 20:34:00 - [19] Originally by: Selim Edited by: Selim on 23/03/2005 02:43:11 Isn't it kind of getting old, how they keep making the caldari ones the best at what they are supposed to be doing? Interceptors: Crow, its the second/third fastest overall inty after malediction and maybe crusader, with 3 midslots for web and scrambler Assault frigates: Good damage over super range and decent resists Covert ops: Most CPU and midslots And now the bomber has the most missile slots? I mean, yeah, the caldari are supposed to be missile *****s, but when the WHOLE SHIP CLASS is apparently meant to be based on missiles, don't you think that precedent needs to be broken? At the very least, give the minmatar one the same amount of missiles... jeez. Its like making a ship class entirely based on drones, and making all of them kinda crappy compared to the gallente one. It may seem OK but its not. In this situation, they should be pretty equal. Differences being in order of HP - Minmatar, Gallente, Caldari, Amarr - speed being the opposite. Differences based on CPU and powergrid amount, lock range and sensor scan res, and something else too. I also second the motion of changing the Hound's name... thats kinda lame. Crow isn't that great, it has to use light missiles afterall, its fast but it has almost no HP, at all. Stilleto is much better for tackling. ------ ROBBLE ROBBLE
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2005.03.23 20:45:00 - [20] PLACEHOLDERS. Sigh. "As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade"

Jim Raynor	Posted - 2005.03.23 20:49:00 - [21] Originally by: Maya Rkell PLACEHOLDERS. Sigh. Only Selim would whine about placeholder stats, they are clearly imbalanced! ------ ROBBLE ROBBLE
Discorporation	Posted - 2005.03.23 21:16:00 - [22] Originally by: Jim Raynor Originally by: Maya Rkell PLACEHOLDERS. Sigh. Only Selim would whine about placeholder stats, they are clearly imbalanced! This made me laugh, out loud. [Heterocephalus glaber]
Jim Raynor	Posted - 2005.03.23 21:26:00 - [23] Manticore Hull: Kestrel Class Role: Stealth Bomber Specifically engineered to fire cruise missiles, stealth bombers represent the next generation in covert ops craft. Advanced techniques in spatial distortion technology enable them to actually fly faster when cloaked than when uncloaked - a fact which, coupled with their considerable firepower, makes them extremely dangerous in the hands of an accomplished pilot. Developer: Lai Dai Lai Dai have always favored a balanced approach to their mix of on-board systems, leading to a line-up of versatile ships but providing very little in terms of tactical specialization. The Manticore, however, differs from other stealth bombers by virtue of its additional launcher hardpoint. Minmatar Frigate Skill Bonus: 19.65% reduction in Cruise Launcher powergrid needs and 5% bonus to Cruise Missile kinetic damage per level Covert Ops Skill Bonus: 5% reduction in Cruise Launcher powergrid needs and 25% bonus to cloaked velocity per level CRUISE MISSILES ON FRIGS ARE BACK BABY????? ------ ROBBLE ROBBLE
Anything	Posted - 2005.03.23 21:37:00 - [24] The Minmatar one isn't called the hound. Minmatar: Dagger Gallente: Nemesis Amarr: Purifier Caldari: Manticore Dagger is a rather fitting name, considering the err... cloak and dagger nature of the class.
mightygerm	Posted - 2005.03.23 21:45:00 - [25] Screenshots. Please.
Carmen Priano	Posted - 2005.03.23 22:02:00 - [26] If that's accurate, Jim... mmm.
Pottsey	Posted - 2005.03.23 22:11:00 - [27] Its accurate Singularity has been updated with new info. _________________________________________________ Gallente defensive innovation comes from unexpected source.
Elve Sorrow	Posted - 2005.03.23 22:12:00 - [28] So would you care to share the info for those of us who can't login to SiSi? Pretty please? /Elve New Video out! Watch me!
Selim	Posted - 2005.03.23 22:44:00 - [29] no, I'm whining about the general dev mindset on the caldari. And apparently they have indeed given the caldari more missiles than the others... which is totally ridiculous considering the ship class is entirely meant for missiles.
Pottsey	Posted - 2005.03.23 22:48:00 - [30] Edited by: Pottsey on 23/03/2005 22:52:10 Only got time for 1 ship and as I like Gallente best here is the Nemesis http://www.dissonance-corp.com/files/2005.03.23.22.40.52.jpg As for the comments on everyone should have the same missile slots, as these are missiles ships, I donÆt agree. When we get drone ships I expect Gallente to have the most drone space and most bonuses same for missiles ships, Caldari should have the best missile ships or pure missiles ships. It makes sense to me that Gallente are not missile uses so I expect them to sneak in a few blasters. Balanced ships does not mean everyone has to be the same. One thing that does seem odd is these are the combat covert op ships yet they have less hull and shields then the scout covert op ships. _________________________________________________ Gallente defensive innovation comes from unexpected source.



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