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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.04.11 14:28:00 -
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That's probably something you should post in the Features and Ideas Discussion forum. 
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Aelita
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Posted - 2005.04.11 21:24:00 -
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Hmm features and ideas wouldn't server problem. Because this forum have no bug section, general suit it best. We got promise year ago and instead working solution we have bug not being able scoop normal containers as we had before.
Shooting containers shouldn't be considered criminal action in any security system and then I guarantee I would voluntarily place my ship for whole day shooting on containers to clean-up mess. Did anyone just go and look at belts in systems with security 0.5+? There are more containers than rocks!
Piles of secure and standard containers just jettisoned in space and labeled with stupid signs or recruitment cover stations and gates. Even 0.0 is polluted with abandoned containers in belts, over stations and gates.
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Aelita
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Posted - 2005.04.27 08:06:00 -
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Edited by: Aelita on 27/04/2005 08:07:20
Hey! Will CCP do something with cans around? If yes then when? When servers will stop working? Check this or this. Will EVE space become can junkyard?
I'm calling for general cleanup over one year, we got empty promises and only bugs (now is not possible to scoop even standard containers into cargo).
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CanCleaner 2
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Posted - 2005.05.17 19:14:00 -
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what the hell is going in Niyabainen and Jita
CCP if you will see how lag is produced, then take a flight from Niyabainen to Jita...
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Heifetz
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Posted - 2005.05.18 14:52:00 -
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Edited by: Heifetz on 18/05/2005 14:52:32
The idea of having some sort of time limit on every single can in EVE, while reducing the amount of cans would also require a huge amount of extra processing power to get the job done.
Instead:
Sollution 1: Simply make it easy for players to self-regulate their cans. All items in space owned by a player or corp appear in their assets folder, and can be remotely trashed just like items in stations.
Sollution 2: Unanchored cans have a 2 hour limit like jet cans.
Sollution 3: If a persons account has been inactive for more than 2 months, their cans dissappear.
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Quanteeri
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Posted - 2005.05.18 15:53:00 -
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Edited by: Quanteeri on 18/05/2005 15:57:56
Why's everything gotta be so complicated.
Since Eve is so very fond of its "Professions" and related skills, how about just introduce the skills for "Garbage Collector", that way anyone that felt that the Galaxy was in need of a clean up, they could. You could have skills such as Sanitaion Engineering, Biowaste Hauling, Selective Refuse Collecting, and Dog Kicking :)
You could even introduce new ship classes, such as the Trash Barge, which could leak stinkinax green ooze all over the highway.
This would also give jobs to the thousands of unemployed Researchers and Scientists.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.05.18 17:39:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 18/05/2005 17:40:18
 Originally by: Wrangler
That's probably something you should post in the Features and Ideas Discussion forum.
Since its a bug, maybe not?
Unanchored cans are supposed to disappear like jetisson cans--but they don't. And standard unanchored cans can't be scooped either.
I propose a protest. Industrials manned by annoyed players could meet at Yulai DED X filled with small standard cans, and could set a 20 jump course through the heart of secure space, where they will dump a single standard can at every gate.
If all of you here are interested, EVE-mail me with a simple "yes I'll do it" or something and I can pick a time and post a thread about it. If the GMs don't like the idea, they better go smack the devs and have them fix at *least* the basic standard-cans-can't-be-scooped bug.
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Chrizto
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Posted - 2005.05.19 07:42:00 -
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Edited by: Chrizto on 19/05/2005 07:45:17
I vote for secure cans to decay when they're unused for 3 months.
And those named jetcans and unanchored cans... ignore them, they Should (hint) decay in about 2 hrs.
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Brather
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Posted - 2005.05.19 08:41:00 -
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or give us a Password Breaking skill. and we can do the cleanup ourselves...
Note: I do not condome hacking or any actions relating or corelating to its means of aquiring access or information of any kind. 
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Dukath
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Posted - 2005.05.19 08:50:00 -
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Something as actually implementing the anchoring skill would work. If i remember correctly the amount of objects you can anchor was supposed to be part of the skill. So just implement it.
For each level a player can anchor 2 objects in space.
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.05.19 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Heifetz
Edited by: Heifetz on 18/05/2005 14:52:32
The idea of having some sort of time limit on every single can in EVE, while reducing the amount of cans would also require a huge amount of extra processing power to get the job done.
Your other ideas are all good, but this point is not. While certain implementations of a time limit would be processing intensive, there are ways of doing it that are not.
For example, if we say that anchored cans expire if left alone for 1 month, or even a week or so, the exact time of death isn't all that important. So you don't need to check to see whether the can should die very often. It could easily be added to the list of clean-up tasks done during daily downtime, and so have no effect on live-play processor load at all.
Also, if you look at the way current jettison containers expire, they don't go pop at the exact second, or even minute, that they go over the 2 hour period. The can cleanup seems to be handled by some sort of garbage collection routine, not a seperate counter on each can. This routine would just cycle through all the cans in the database constantly, checking for expired ones. So if your can has 1 second left to go when it gets checked, it lives, and will live until the garbage collector comes round again. The great thing about this system is that the processor usage can be easily tuned based on current server load. If server load is high, you just slow down the garbage collector. Which is probably why I've had cans last 3-4 hours at busy times - though relying on them after the 2-hour mark is very foolhardy! Incidentally, a similar system seems to be in use for removing expired market orders, hence why some of them can sit there for a while.
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CanCleaner 1
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Posted - 2005.05.21 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Quanteeri
Edited by: Quanteeri on 18/05/2005 15:57:56
Since Eve is so very fond of its "Professions" and related skills, how about just introduce the skills for "Garbage Collector", that way anyone that felt that the Galaxy was in need of a clean up, they could. You could have skills such as Sanitaion Engineering, Biowaste Hauling, Selective Refuse Collecting, and Dog Kicking :)
signed !
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Stepping Razor
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Posted - 2005.05.22 05:32:00 -
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Originally by: Dukath
Something as actually implementing the anchoring skill would work. If i remember correctly the amount of objects you can anchor was supposed to be part of the skill. So just implement it.
For each level a player can anchor 2 objects in space.
Excluding POS objects I would hope....
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Maestra Jsun
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Posted - 2005.05.22 08:36:00 -
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Cans have the owners name written all over them, yes?
Pirates, lock'em, load'em, and take down names. When the corpses start piling up, the word will get out...
"Stop littering."
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Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2005.05.22 11:25:00 -
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There's a flaw in your thinking, pirates don't care about EVEs general wellbeing, only their own.
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CanCleaner 2
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Posted - 2005.05.22 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Maestra Jsun
Cans have the owners name written all over them, yes?
Just saw some cans that belongs only to a corp-logo... no player is attached
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2005.05.22 20:04:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 22/05/2005 20:08:36
/me Breaks out the guitar.
Cans, cans, everywhere there's cans
******* up the scenery, breaking my mind
Do this, don't do that, can't you read the can?
And the can says 'Anybody caught trespassing will be shot on sight'.
So I jumped the gate and I yelled at the camp
Hey! What gives you the right!?
To put up a camp and keep me out, or to keep Mother Arkonor in.
If a GM was here, he'd tell it to your face, man, you're some kind of lamer...
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