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VegasMirage
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Posted - 2012.10.15 23:58:00 -
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So, there I am sitting on the Jita 4-4 undock thinking there must be more to Eve Online besides bait ganking badly fit ships.
Wormholes!!! I probe out a wormhole from hisec, jump in and find a C4. It's full of sleeper sites (forget the official term) Amons or something, anyways I get a fleet together, they ask if its safe and whether I have a prober in the wormhole. Of course I have a prober in there you nitwit.
The assembled fleet of t3's with Scimi and recon support jump into the wh. The wormhole closes behind us leaving our noctis pilot in hi sec. "Anybody have a salvager on your tengu?"... "No."
Ok, so it's time to just find an exit back to hi sec and leave this wormhole stuff to the experts. I begin probing and probing and probing...
The C4 only has connections to its own static, another C4, which after probing 20-25 sigs connects to its static a C5 which led to another C4 with a static C5 and on and on for about 5 hours. Finally at the last wormhole, the chain was totally closed with no other way out but through its static which I came through.
(1) C4 > (2) C4 > (3) C5/ (4) C4 > (5) C5 > (6) C4 >(7) C5 > (8) C5
I fly my space ship back and forth through the chain dropping probes hoping for a new sig, it doesn't come. My fleet, logged off and no longer talking to me.
Is this "working as intended"? What's the longest chain you've been in that didn't lead to null/low or hi sec. Why would CCP allow for a wh chain to actually be "closed" with no way out.
This is the problem with being a Nomad. The isk isn't worth it imo.
likes watching grown men cry-á (Gò»n+¦Gò¦,) |

El Liptonez
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
9
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Posted - 2012.10.16 00:12:00 -
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Looking at how you've been in four class 4's, that's 50% of the systems that never have a k-space exit. I am not entirely sure about C5s and C6s, but most, if not all of those only come with w-space statics too.
You only were in four systems that could in theory have k-space exits but aren't bound to, you didn't even get unlucky. Complaining about not finding a k-space exit in four wormholes is like complaining the droprate of nanoribbons has been nerfed when you didn't get a single one from two anoms. |

Rroff
The Xenodus Initiative. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
50
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Posted - 2012.10.16 00:14:00 -
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Its an interesting one as its not really working as intended but it working the way it works - when you play W-Space as most people do - living there gives you the collapsing ships so when you end up with a situation like that you crash your static and usually get a new chain that has a k-space exit somewhere. |

Milena Chang
Heaven's End League of Infamy
1
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Posted - 2012.10.16 00:48:00 -
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Poasting in a stealth "stuck and I can't get out" thread.
Seriously though, I would say this is working as intended; wormhole space is supposed to be dangerous, and the mechanics behind wormhole spawn/collapse are an essential part of that.
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VegasMirage
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Posted - 2012.10.16 00:54:00 -
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Some of you posting above do not understand what it is I'm "whinning" about.
It's not being stuck in a wormhole and can't get out, it's being stuck in a chain that is closed with no more possibilities but wait the 24 hour timers and hope a k-space exit is attached in the new chain or some random opens an exit from their static.
The question is have you been stuck in a "chain" before that leads nowhere but back to where you started?
This is a first for me. Usually, I'm probing for days sometimes weeks but never been closed off to new wh possibilities in a dead end chain.
Then again, I'm nomading so many of you who live in wh's proly don't know what I'm talking about.
likes watching grown men cry-á (Gò»n+¦Gò¦,) |

Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
390
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Posted - 2012.10.16 00:58:00 -
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Not sure if serious. Blatant misspellings like amons remind me of all those nigerian email scams.
That being said, I got stuck in a C4 static C5 collapsing the hole a month or so ago. It took about 4 hours of scanning to finally find a way back to k-space.
Next time check the C4's static before deciding if you want to enter.
Also fishy. I'm pretty sure everyone has said C4's never have a k-space connection. Yet you found it from high sec. |

VegasMirage
206
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Posted - 2012.10.16 01:03:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:Not sure if serious. Blatant misspellings like amons remind me of all those nigerian email scams.
That being said, I got stuck in a C4 static C5 collapsing the hole a month or so ago. It took about 4 hours of scanning to finally find a way back to k-space.
Next time check the C4's static before deciding if you want to enter.
Also fishy. I'm pretty sure everyone has said C4's never have a k-space connection. Yet you found it from high sec.
here fishy fishy...
no nothing fishy going on, was just sharing an experience
again, I understand what you went through, it's normal - being stuck in a dead end chain of 8 or so wormholes is something you should look forward to ;)
likes watching grown men cry-á (Gò»n+¦Gò¦,) |

Wolvun
Crimson Cell
54
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Posted - 2012.10.16 01:10:00 -
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Right click your ship. Self destruct. Right click your pod. Self destruct.
Tell us how shiny your ship was. Tell us how shiny your pod was.
Allow us to take great joy in your dismay.
I'm pretty sure this will apply at some point. |

Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
661
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Posted - 2012.10.16 01:15:00 -
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WH chains will always end in a HS/LS/NS exit unless you get a closed loop which is very rare but does happen. (EG, you can have C4a > C4b C4c > back to C4a.)
Looking at the chain you listed, you must have missed a sig somewhere. |

Oxandrolone
Bite Me inc Elysian Empire
49
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Posted - 2012.10.16 01:31:00 -
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VegasMirage wrote:
Is this "working as intended"? What's the longest chain you've been in that didn't lead to null/low or hi sec. Why would CCP allow for a wh chain to actually be "closed" with no way out.
This is the problem with being a Nomad. The isk isn't worth it imo.
there is always a way out of every wormhole, its just not always to k-space. you word your question on the assumption people only scan in wormholes looking for a 'way out' to k-space |

VegasMirage
206
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Posted - 2012.10.16 01:50:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:WH chains will always end in a HS/LS/NS exit unless you get a closed loop which is very rare but does happen. (EG, you can have C4a > C4b C4c > back to C4a.)
Looking at the chain you listed, you must have missed a sig somewhere.
After probing the sigs out 3 or 4 times in each wormhole, I decided to take screen shots so I didn't have to probe again. I actually was surprised by the closed chain. The chain doesn't end up in the wormhole I started in (appologize for leading you to believe that) it led to 2 dead end wormholes with only statics that somebody probed out (funny cause I saw other probes in the chain so others were also stuck in the same situation).
Also, nobody lives in ANY of these wormholes. Lots of abandoned towers and mods. likes watching grown men cry-á (Gò»n+¦Gò¦,) |

Marzuq
Scarlet Weather Rhapsody
20
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Posted - 2012.10.16 02:21:00 -
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VegasMirage wrote:Jack Miton wrote:WH chains will always end in a HS/LS/NS exit unless you get a closed loop which is very rare but does happen. (EG, you can have C4a > C4b C4c > back to C4a.)
Looking at the chain you listed, you must have missed a sig somewhere. After probing the sigs out 3 or 4 times in each wormhole, I decided to take screen shots so I didn't have to probe again. I actually was surprised by the closed chain. The chain doesn't end up in the wormhole I started in (appologize for leading you to believe that) it led to 2 dead end wormholes with only statics that somebody probed out (funny cause I saw other probes in the chain so others were also stuck in the same situation). Also, nobody lives in ANY of these wormholes. Lots of abandoned towers and mods.
That's the nature of C4 wormholes, theres a reason why not many people live in C4's, along with better isk/hr in C3/C2 wormholes. |

Hamatitio
Aperture Harmonics K162
88
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Posted - 2012.10.16 02:31:00 -
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You had to have gone through a k162, if you go static static static static eventually you'll be free. |

Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
83
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Posted - 2012.10.16 04:59:00 -
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Unless it was one of those pesky hi sec->C4 roaming Wormholes that got them in there in the first place. |

VegasMirage
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Posted - 2012.10.16 06:54:00 -
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Hamatitio wrote:You had to have gone through a k162, if you go static static static static eventually you'll be free.
no there were a lot of K-162's along the way (also from hi sec)
the key here is being stuck in a limited chain of wh's that dead ends on both sides, I didn't think it possible but it has happened likes watching grown men cry-á (Gò»n+¦Gò¦,) |

Sassums
Wormhole Exploration Crew R.E.P.O.
54
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Posted - 2012.10.16 07:14:00 -
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VegasMirage wrote: to just find an exit back to hi sec and leave this wormhole stuff to the experts. I begin probing and probing and probing...
The C4 only has connections to its own static, another C4, which after probing 20-25 sigs connects to its static a C5 which led to another C4 with a static C5 and on and on for about 5 hours. Finally at the last wormhole, the chain was totally closed with no other way out but through its static which I came through.
(1) C4 > (2) C4 > (3) C5/ (4) C4 > (5) C5 > (6) C4 >(7) C5 > (8) C5
Here is the issue. It is quite clear that the last WH you entered, was NOT the static of the WH you left.
You must have gone through a K162 into that very last WH.
Had it not been a K162, the WH you entered would have had a static of its own, and not been the return route home.
You need to use static mapper or sites like that to figure out the static of each WH you are in.
Living in a WH for more than a year, we have never once had an issue like you just described. Every static leads somewhere.
The only time we find a dead end is going into a K162 to find out the WH we just entered's static is the WH we just left. |

Shenra Twrin
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2012.10.16 07:18:00 -
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Know that feeling of having long and many chains
Old chain of us http://s1.directupload.net/images/121016/7838ok9x.jpg
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VegasMirage
206
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Posted - 2012.10.16 07:19:00 -
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Sassums wrote:VegasMirage wrote: to just find an exit back to hi sec and leave this wormhole stuff to the experts. I begin probing and probing and probing...
The C4 only has connections to its own static, another C4, which after probing 20-25 sigs connects to its static a C5 which led to another C4 with a static C5 and on and on for about 5 hours. Finally at the last wormhole, the chain was totally closed with no other way out but through its static which I came through.
(1) C4 > (2) C4 > (3) C5/ (4) C4 > (5) C5 > (6) C4 >(7) C5 > (8) C5
Here is the issue. It is quite clear that the last WH you entered, was NOT the static of the WH you left. You must have gone through a K162 into that very last WH. Had it not been a K162, the WH you entered would have had a static of its own, and not been the return route home. You need to use static mapper or sites like that to figure out the static of each WH you are in. Living in a WH for more than a year, we have never once had an issue like you just described. Every static leads somewhere. The only time we find a dead end is going into a K162 to find out the WH we just entered's static is the WH we just left.
I'm registered with WormNav lived in wh space for 2 years, been nomading for a year. It's chained, tracked, screen shots taken etc.,
The last wormhole was a K162 as I said above, it was the C5's static back to the wh I came in from, no other sigs available int that last wh. The same from the C4 I started from, only the static which I probed out b/c the wh we came thru collapsed (EOL).
I started the thread b/c it seemed to be something rare.
likes watching grown men cry-á (Gò»n+¦Gò¦,) |

Aducat Ragnarson
Cult of the Black Goat Dark Taboo
13
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Posted - 2012.10.16 07:30:00 -
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7/10
Tell us again how you jumped into the wormhole from highsec and it was a c4... That part was so totally believable because c4 holes can totally connect to k-space. |

Shenra Twrin
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2012.10.16 08:02:00 -
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Aducat Ragnarson wrote:7/10
Tell us again how you jumped into the wormhole from highsec and it was a c4... That part was so totally believable because c4 holes can totally connect to k-space. coaltion high maybe... ? |

Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.10.16 08:09:00 -
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Aducat Ragnarson wrote:7/10
Tell us again how you jumped into the wormhole from highsec and it was a c4... That part was so totally believable because c4 holes can totally connect to k-space. This. Class 4s don't connect to k-space. There has been no known sighting of a O128 wormhole going into C4, and there's no class of wormhole that departs C4 to k-space. |

Janus Nanzikambe
Fer Lomarcan Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2012.10.16 08:19:00 -
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Have to agree with Durzel on this one, I've lived with a C4 as a static since wormhole were introduced, I've scanned literally thousands of C4s I have never seen a highsec to C4 connection making it along with the fabled > 1.3b kg jumpable WH the only WHs I've never seen in game.
Thread being what it is, I'd suggest it's mostly if not entirely a fabrication.
5/10, I bit  |

Michael1995
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2012.10.16 09:46:00 -
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Longest chain I've ever seen was about 7 or 8 C4s, ending in a C1 to Lowsec and starting with a C2 that linked to Highsec and the first C4.
And yes, working as intended. And if iirc, there are no empire connections ever, linking to C4 space. So it's far more likely you entered a C5 from highsec and closed it behind you. One does not simply buy their way into Goonswarm. |

Obax Bannon
Fidelis Technologies
71
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Posted - 2012.10.16 10:14:00 -
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Aducat Ragnarson wrote:7/10
Tell us again how you jumped into the wormhole from highsec and it was a c4... That part was so totally believable because c4 holes can totally connect to k-space.
I thought all holes had a random chance of having holes leading to high sec locations (obviously not the static tho) or does that just apply to C1-3 holes ?
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Michael1995
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
40
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Posted - 2012.10.16 10:46:00 -
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Obax Bannon wrote:Aducat Ragnarson wrote:7/10
Tell us again how you jumped into the wormhole from highsec and it was a c4... That part was so totally believable because c4 holes can totally connect to k-space. I thought all holes had a random chance of having holes leading to high sec locations (obviously not the static tho) or does that just apply to C1-3 holes ?
All Classes EXCEPT C4s can have random ins and outs from k-space (HI/LO/NULL). C4s got trolled by CCP hard.  One does not simply buy their way into Goonswarm. |

Robert Fish
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
1
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Posted - 2012.10.16 11:29:00 -
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If your going nomad then you should/must have an orca with you which you can then use to collapse the chain and try your luck with the next one. If you don't have an orca then you derserve to be trapped waiting for the static to collapse. |

Terrorfrodo
Deep Space Darwinian Law Enforcement Agency
207
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Posted - 2012.10.16 11:49:00 -
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I remember devs stating after Apocrypha release that wormhole systems can never be nested more than five systems deep until you find an exit to k-space. So far I have not experienced a situation where this 'rule' was violated. Even if it was only an incoming hole from nullsec in the fifth system.
Assuming the OP is not just trolling, his mistake with the 'C4 from hisec' probably shows that he's not as dilligent as he thinks, and he just overlooked something. . |

Borlag Crendraven
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
95
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Posted - 2012.10.16 12:35:00 -
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VegasMirage wrote:Hamatitio wrote:You had to have gone through a k162, if you go static static static static eventually you'll be free. no there were a lot of K-162's along the way (also from hi sec) the key here is being stuck in a limited chain of wh's that dead ends on both sides, I didn't think it possible but it has happened
People picked up quickly on your false claim of entering C4 from high sec but this gem went unnoticed... You're stuck in a wormhole chain with no way to get to k-space, all the while having K162's from high sec? Umm okay....
Assuming for a second that you're not trolling, you do realize that you can enter K162's? There are no such things as dead ends in wormholes, sure you might have to roll a connection or wait until you find a better one, but it's never a permanent situation that'd leave you stuck there. |

Efraya
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
125
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Posted - 2012.10.16 13:01:00 -
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Posting in a Vegas thread, 2/10
You got some responses...
WSpace; Best space. |

RingRaith
Lone Star Exploration Lone Star Partners
0
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Posted - 2012.10.16 17:22:00 -
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It's true guys. I saw him when he finally found a wh that went 50km off the Jita 4-4 undock. True story |

VegasMirage
206
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:41:00 -
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Aducat Ragnarson wrote:7/10
Tell us again how you jumped into the wormhole from highsec and it was a c4... That part was so totally believable because c4 holes can totally connect to k-space.
it was actually a C3 from hi-sec, but w/eve the point is WE WERE stuck until today
somebody probed their static to the c4 T405 then we made it to low sec
so the C3 had a C4 which closed behind us, make you feel any better?
The dead end chain exists, it's like a Bermuda Triangle of rl. likes watching grown men cry-á (Gò»n+¦Gò¦,) |

Kalel Nimrott
EG CORP Talocan United
64
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Posted - 2012.10.17 01:04:00 -
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You know very well that dead end chains in wh space are possible. |

Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
666
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Posted - 2012.10.17 01:22:00 -
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Kalel Nimrott wrote:You know very well that dead end chains in wh space are possible.
simple logic dictates otherwise. closed loops? sure. dead end chains? not possible given WH static mechanics. |

Kalel Nimrott
EG CORP Talocan United
64
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Posted - 2012.10.17 01:41:00 -
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You are right. I was reffering to closed loops as dead ends. My mistake. |

Kalel Nimrott
EG CORP Talocan United
64
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Posted - 2012.10.17 11:31:00 -
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Vegas, could it be that the last system you entered was from its static? Its the only way other than a bug, and ithas a simple solution |

Dino Boff
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
14
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Posted - 2012.10.17 11:42:00 -
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The last time I was in a loop like that, the static wh of my home static was connected back to my home. It was a very short loop: Home -> C5 -> Home. however that wh had an incoming wh from NS. The old rule that a 5-6 wh long chain must have at least one k-space connect was holding true.
However, had the NS incoming wh collapsed, if I had used it to bring capitals for example, would a new connection to k-space had appear shortly after? Next time I am in a loop like that I will try.
But I am guessing that if CCP makes sure WH chains always have a connection to k-space it only enforces it when a new static or regional wh is created. If the only k-space connection in a chain dies, you only get a new connection to k-space when one of the static in the chain dies as well or when a regional or k-space incoming wh appear randomly. |

Sandslinger
NorCorp Enterprise No Holes Barred
10
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Posted - 2012.10.17 16:29:00 -
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It's entirely possible for a chain to be closed.
In fact the day we moved into Polaris our first Static was Nova. And Nova's static was Polaris thus creating a 2 system closed loop.
We didn't have any cycling ships and we had to ask Aharm to be so kind as to close our connection into them so as to give us a chance to find a K space Null/Low with the new Chain 
Since then we have had closed loops ranging up to 5 and 10 systems.
Wormhole space does not guarantee exits deal with it  |

VegasMirage
208
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Posted - 2012.10.17 17:09:00 -
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Kalel Nimrott wrote:Vegas, could it be that the last system you entered was from its static? Its the only way other than a bug, and ithas a simple solution.
Edit: re reading the op, that is what happened. You may have missed the static from the one before tje last system.
You're right the last wormhole I found was it's static so I entered through a K-162
As I mentioned I saw other probers within the chain (they must have probed out their static and fell into my deadend chain), not sure if they just gave up or not.
It's nice to have confirmation from above posters that it is in fact "working as intended", I've read all the books, guides and countless threads but never saw anything discussed like this... glad I didn't petition it :P
for a bit I thought I was losing my mind, rushing up and down the chain probing and re-probing hoping none of YOUs found my fleet
I survived the torturous wormhole debacle, no isk, no kills, 1 full game day loss... back to Jita undock for me. likes watching grown men cry-á (Gò»n+¦Gò¦,) |

Kalel Nimrott
EG CORP Talocan United
64
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:13:00 -
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After five hours of scanning..., thats borderlining the tilerance edge for me. |

Svodola Darkfury
Heaven's End League of Infamy
69
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Posted - 2012.10.18 00:37:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:WH chains will always end in a HS/LS/NS exit unless you get a closed loop which is very rare but does happen. (EG, you can have C4a > C4b C4c > back to C4a.)
Looking at the chain you listed, you must have missed a sig somewhere.
This. It is impossible to get in a closed chain without static'ing into another wormhole in your chain.
If you do, it's bad luck; wait it out and scan it again the next day.
C4, C5, and C6 always (?) have statics to other wormholes. C3 always have a connection to k-space, C1s and C2s always have a k-space (I THINK) and sometimes another wormhole (I.e. C2-> low-sec/C2).
Of these, all but C4 can have random K-space connections (wandering wormholes).
The worst I've had was c4-c4-c4-c4-c5-c5-c5-c6-c5-c5-low-sec random.
Just keep scanning; the more C5s you have the more likely you are to find a random wormhole or a non-static connection. C4s can be good sometimes because of the C2 wormholes that are C4/HS.
Svodola Darkfury. |

Hathrul
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
122
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Posted - 2012.10.18 12:27:00 -
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though it is possible to get a closed loop, its extremely rare. also, the changing story and this being a vegasmirage thread, i really doubt this is anything but made up
if it is though, you found one of the most rare chains in wh space. you should be pleased :)
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VegasMirage
209
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Posted - 2012.10.18 15:20:00 -
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Hathrul wrote:though it is possible to get a closed loop, its extremely rare. also, the changing story and this being a vegasmirage thread, i really doubt this is anything but made up
if it is though, you found one of the most rare chains in wh space. you should be pleased :)
love the butthurt bro, it looks good on you - try not to change likes watching grown men cry-á (Gò»n+¦Gò¦,) |

Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin
155
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Posted - 2012.10.18 16:41:00 -
[43] - Quote
Nah he's right vegas, you are a prat.
*edit, although to add content I can understand the oddness of the situation. In this case I actually believe you aren't trolling! What happened to everyone else? I have images of lot's of lost ships wandering decaying wormholes desperate for an exit they can never probe to find. |

Hathrul
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
123
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Posted - 2012.10.18 18:26:00 -
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VegasMirage wrote: it looks good on you - try not to change
im so gorgeous, i look good with anything
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VegasMirage
209
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Posted - 2012.10.18 19:32:00 -
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Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:Nah he's right vegas, you are a prat.
*edit, although to add content I can understand the oddness of the situation. In this case I actually believe you aren't trolling! What happened to everyone else? I have images of lot's of lost ships wandering decaying wormholes desperate for an exit they can never probe to find.
Christine you're another fanboi?
I checked Christine and yes you should be mad, since to date I've blown up over 50 billion isk worth of your stuffs in J160311 and had you war dec'd for over 6 months. (you asked me to list the kills, remember on that epic thread-naught - and I did and you said ... "I didn't need that stuff anyways"
you're a famous stalker/whiner now, this is you right https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=427519
AND the last engagement I set up (manipulated whatever you wanna call it) I had Hathrul another "VegasMirage Fanboi" (unknowingly) help to bleed 20 billion isk in your wh. Well I'm sorrrrry. that's all I can say, sorry. 
20 bill killed 700 mill lost : http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13759680
Hathrul, you did well my Padawan. I look forward to more usage of you in the near future.
Ok, back to the thread - this happened there are closed dead-end chains that exceed 8 systems. I was there it was no fun as others pointed out.
Guys that hate, it's bad try to move on.
likes watching grown men cry-á (Gò»n+¦Gò¦,) |

Malception
Cold Moon Destruction Talocan United
38
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Posted - 2012.10.18 19:44:00 -
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what a douche. |

VegasMirage
209
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Posted - 2012.10.18 19:51:00 -
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Malception wrote:what a douche.
I know right. Some peeeeeople. likes watching grown men cry-á (Gò»n+¦Gò¦,) |

Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin
155
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Posted - 2012.10.18 20:18:00 -
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VegasMirage wrote:Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:Nah he's right vegas, you are a prat.
*edit, although to add content I can understand the oddness of the situation. In this case I actually believe you aren't trolling! What happened to everyone else? I have images of lot's of lost ships wandering decaying wormholes desperate for an exit they can never probe to find. Christine you're another fanboi? I checked Christine and yes you should be mad, since to date I've blown up over 50 billion isk worth of your stuffs in J160311 and had you war dec'd for over 6 months. (you asked me to list the kills, remember on that epic thread-naught - and I did and you said ... "I didn't need that stuff anyways" you're a famous stalker/whiner now, this is you right https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=427519AND the last engagement I set up (manipulated whatever you wanna call it) I had Hathrul another "VegasMirage Fanboi" (unknowingly) help to bleed 20 billion isk in your wh. Well I'm sorrrrry.  that's all I can say, sorry.  20 bill killed 700 mill lost : http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13759680Hathrul, you did well my Padawan. I look forward to more usage of you in the near future. Ok, back to the thread - this happened there are closed dead-end chains that exceed 8 systems. I was there it was no fun as others pointed out. Guys that hate, it's bad try to move on.
Touch a nerve did I V3gas? I'm only apparently famous to you. Anyone that has read that thread will know your bleating well. I lost nothing. I can't be arsed with you this round because I am sure that you get most of your enjoyment out of this game winding people up.
So this will be my last reply, see you in space o/
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Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
676
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Posted - 2012.10.18 20:28:00 -
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I see this thread has finally descended into the 'vegas is a douche'/'omg you mad bro' bickering most vegas threads turn into. good to see some consistency :)
(generally speaking, both parties tend to be correct in this matter, making the argument rather moot.) |

VegasMirage
209
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Posted - 2012.10.18 20:30:00 -
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Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:VegasMirage wrote:Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:Nah he's right vegas, you are a prat.
*edit, although to add content I can understand the oddness of the situation. In this case I actually believe you aren't trolling! What happened to everyone else? I have images of lot's of lost ships wandering decaying wormholes desperate for an exit they can never probe to find. Christine you're another fanboi? I checked Christine and yes you should be mad, since to date I've blown up over 50 billion isk worth of your stuffs in J160311 and had you war dec'd for over 6 months. (you asked me to list the kills, remember on that epic thread-naught - and I did and you said ... "I didn't need that stuff anyways" you're a famous stalker/whiner now, this is you right https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=427519AND the last engagement I set up (manipulated whatever you wanna call it) I had Hathrul another "VegasMirage Fanboi" (unknowingly) help to bleed 20 billion isk in your wh. Well I'm sorrrrry.  that's all I can say, sorry.  20 bill killed 700 mill lost : http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13759680Hathrul, you did well my Padawan. I look forward to more usage of you in the near future. Ok, back to the thread - this happened there are closed dead-end chains that exceed 8 systems. I was there it was no fun as others pointed out. Guys that hate, it's bad try to move on. Touch a nerve did I V3gas? I'm only apparently famous to you. Anyone that has read that thread will know your bleating well. I lost nothing. I can't be arsed with you this round because I am sure that you get most of your enjoyment out of this game winding people up. So this will be my last reply, see you in space o/
you tickled me lol'ing nerve
it's a shame your types can't just say "gf" and move on, always trying to justify your fail
you should thank me, I made you quit that fail alliance and move on
likes watching grown men cry-á (Gò»n+¦Gò¦,) |

VegasMirage
218
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Posted - 2012.10.18 20:36:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:I see this thread has finally descended into the 'vegas is a douche'/'omg you mad bro' bickering most vegas threads turn into. good to see some consistency :)
(generally speaking, both parties tend to be correct in this matter, making the argument rather moot.)
eat cookies while owners watch, they can do nothing... makes them mad
not sure if your opinion matters Jack, you were in Narwhals (kinda biased don't ya think) likes watching grown men cry-á (Gò»n+¦Gò¦,) |

Hathrul
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
124
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Posted - 2012.10.18 21:03:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:I see this thread has finally descended into the 'vegas is a douche'/'omg you mad bro' bickering most vegas threads turn into. good to see some consistency :)
(generally speaking, both parties tend to be correct in this matter, making the argument rather moot.)
pretty much this. shame old topics get lost. now we get a new one every so often, and its still not that interesting |

VegasMirage
231
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Posted - 2012.10.18 21:19:00 -
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Hathrul wrote:Jack Miton wrote:I see this thread has finally descended into the 'vegas is a douche'/'omg you mad bro' bickering most vegas threads turn into. good to see some consistency :)
(generally speaking, both parties tend to be correct in this matter, making the argument rather moot.) pretty much this. shame old topics get lost. now we get a new one every so often, and its still not that interesting
yes yes bitter vet syndrome with sooo much on your plate
tell me of your busy schedule please, I'm interested likes watching grown men cry-á (Gò»n+¦Gò¦,) |

Kalel Nimrott
EG CORP Talocan United
64
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Posted - 2012.10.18 22:54:00 -
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I'm starting to appteciate your trolls, Vegas. Seems to have a pettern there and me likes. |

Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
677
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:28:00 -
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VegasMirage wrote:not sure if your opinion matters Jack, you were in Narwhals (kinda biased don't ya think)
considering narwhals no longer exists, i hardly see the relevance. i also spent 18months in CCRES, maybe i should hate AHARM for evicting us back then, oh wait.... |

Random Woman
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.10.19 10:51:00 -
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Posting in a VegasMirage Thread:
just get into you cloaky Titan and cyno out.
Or look for K162s, but thats probably beneath you. |

Kryxal
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
1
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Posted - 2012.10.19 15:34:00 -
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Back to the OP's situation, you could always just crash one of the links ... once you've scanned a closed loop, any ships on the wrong side can just go the long way around and you have a new WH chain to scan out. |
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