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Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2005.03.24 03:08:00 -
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is there any plans for CCP to release the game in the US ??
us US players are a rare breed in Eve (endangered species) + the fact that CCP could make BIG money if they where to relase it here (meaning buy add time on the networks)
Thank You Paw Sandberg
for all your BPC needs see http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=55706&page=1
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.03.24 03:10:00 -
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Americans don't like EVE (apparently). Not twitch-oriented enough, I guess... ---------------- Haha, stupid monkey! Now I'VE got the Oscar! Enjoy your worthless gun! |

jbob2000
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Posted - 2005.03.24 03:23:00 -
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Well the boxed version of the game is availible in Canada, my friend recently bought it for 10 bucks (cost me 70 though ) im sure its availible in the states they just gotta advertise it. if CCP could somehow afford a prime time TV commercial showing the graphics + what you can do we'd get ****loads of people ----------------------------------------------- CANADIAN |

Sevarus James
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Posted - 2005.03.24 03:23:00 -
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Edited by: Sevarus James on 24/03/2005 03:40:37 Uh...Paw, you serious? Eve was released in the US. Bought my copy at a good ol' compusa in Denver....or are you referrin' to a boxed version of exodus???
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Trevedian
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Posted - 2005.03.24 04:11:00 -
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EVE OnlineÖ was on store shelves back in June 2003 when I purchased it, but I haven't seen the boxed version of the game anywhere since...
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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Core Bash
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Posted - 2005.03.24 04:13:00 -
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Originally by: Paw Sandberg is there any plans for CCP to release the game in the US ??
us US players are a rare breed in Eve (endangered species) + the fact that CCP could make BIG money if they where to relase it here (meaning buy add time on the networks)
The US deployment EVE-Online was originally the campaign of Simon & Schuster, who then stopped selling video games all together. The man in charge of the EVE project left the company and managed to take the marketing with him. My dad works for VIACOM (who gives Simon & Schuster content such as Nickelodeon merchandise) and talks to him often. At work they call the guy "Mr. EVE" but I don't know what his future plans are for marketing. After talking to him through my dad, though, "Mr. EVE" said he was open to suggestions. 
I don't know CCP's position on this - but if any of you have some constructive suggestions for me to pass along to him, please send 'em my way!
And yes, it's how I was first introduced to the game.. in box form, in the US. á
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3rdD Dave
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Posted - 2005.03.24 04:23:00 -
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SHOCK HORROR!!! STOP THE PRESS !!
whats this Euros actually got the first before the americans? unlike films and dvds,hardware etc..
about bloody time too.
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Core Bash
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Posted - 2005.03.24 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: 3rdD Dave SHOCK HORROR!!! STOP THE PRESS !!
whats this Euros actually got the first before the americans? unlike films and dvds,hardware etc..
about bloody time too.
Yeah and that's the US EVE players' fault.  Since we're all overweight beef-shake slurping cowboys we can't move around a lot, so it would make sense we get all the movies first. It's a pity really. á
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Arwen Atreides
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Posted - 2005.03.24 04:29:00 -
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Quote: Americans don't like EVE (apparently). Not twitch-oriented enough, I guess...
Since when was WoW twitch? I am US player and love EVE, I think it is more that Americans don't know about it than that they don't like it. Other than the first box release I don't think there has been any sort of marketing for EVE in the states.
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ollobrains
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Posted - 2005.03.24 04:32:00 -
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enough yanks have broadband - downloading the game albielt large is possible pay with credit card that way
Though dial up in australia took me a week for the 440 MB but well worth it lol
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Sevarus James
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Posted - 2005.03.24 04:35:00 -
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Edited by: Sevarus James on 24/03/2005 04:35:45 Hate to break this to ya 3rdD Dave, but Eve was released worldwide on the same day........that's kinda' how mmo's do things. The boxes were on the shelves in the US at or near the same time as they were everywhere else.
There are still some original EVE copies floating around in discount bins (i've seen a few here and there), but it would an idea to get the 'exodus' release out to stores...those 'in' game don't need em', but would be another way to keep it in 'mind' to the general buying public. Of course this is mostly just thinkin' aloud...its a nightmare for 'shelf' space in the game industry...and would most likely be more trouble than its worth. Advertising in mags and online would probably be the more cost effective and efficient route at this point.
p.s. what is with all the 'US' bashing I've been seeing in the forums lately? Some of it is completely uncalled for, and coming from a small number of people repeatedly.
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ollobrains
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Posted - 2005.03.24 04:41:00 -
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CCP need to run internet publicity campaigns - though they are now profitable so many word of mouth is enough
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Brej Donierik
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Posted - 2005.03.24 04:47:00 -
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Edited by: Brej Donierik on 24/03/2005 04:47:20
There's an interview here, taken today I think, where they mention an upcoming advertising campaign in the US, along with other bits of info.
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Tarm
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Posted - 2005.03.24 04:47:00 -
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Originally by: Nero Scuro Americans don't like EVE (apparently). Not twitch-oriented enough, I guess...
Completely ignorant response. You apparantly know aaaallll about Americans because you watch the news! You know what we're like! Buncha fatties sitting around playing CS all day.
You're just the same OOC and IC, IGNORANT.
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MooKids
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Posted - 2005.03.24 04:48:00 -
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I know they did say they were going to start up advertising again with Shiva/Exodus as EVE would be "relaunched". Some of it involved getting new game reviews by the major game reviewers. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |

ollobrains
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Posted - 2005.03.24 04:50:00 -
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I think word of mouth and existing players promoting it outside across the net could be useful i do on a major forum with 70,000 users.
Lets hope they move rapidly to a) fix bugs b) add new content c) add new features as it becomes possible to do so without major bugs d) use the profits wisely
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Khristopher
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Posted - 2005.03.24 04:54:00 -
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Edited by: Khristopher on 24/03/2005 04:55:20
Originally by: ollobrains enough yanks have broadband - downloading the game albielt large is possible pay with credit card that way
Though dial up in australia took me a week for the 440 MB but well worth it lol
Don't call me a yank *drives down the road singin Sweet Home Alabama :p
As for Eve being sold here I have never seen a boxed copy. I had never even really heard much about eve till someone from a Everquest forum I chat on got me hooked been playin ever since.
Oh btw there was a small review of Exodus in US PC Gamer about 1 or 2 issues ago.
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Stepping Razor
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Posted - 2005.03.24 05:05:00 -
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As has been previously mentionned, EVE got released in north america simultaneously with europe. Unfortunately, it was expensive and totally lacking in any advertisement or even its own shelf displays or posters. I had to look ALL OVER my city to find a copy, paid a mint for it, was prolly the only one in town who bought the game (my RL m8 played beta) and then it went into the discount bins.
EVE could definitely use a re-release in North America, but only if there's enough money put into "flash" that ppl take the time to pick up the box, let alone even notice it on the shelf. In my \town I had to ask for a copy, none were on display, even 2 weeks after release. That's pretty sad. If on the other hand there's no money for a decent roll-out or to buy shelf space in big chain stores as well as game shops, I'd suggest packaging 3 week trials in 3 or 4 leading games magazines and making sure LOTS of GM's and Polaris volunteers are working for the few weeks after those mags came out...
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Tairos Hakonnus
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Posted - 2005.03.24 05:19:00 -
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Like a lot of other U.S. players have mentioned, Eve had virtually no ads or marketing in the States.
I actually found this game completely by chance; I was at some electronics store one day and saw it on the shelf. I was a little unsure about how good it would be (because I hadn't heard anything about it), but I had some money that was burning a hole in my pocket and felt guilty about spending it on drugs, so I bought Eve.
I'm glad I did.  ----------------------------
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Xav Vorbarra
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Posted - 2005.03.24 05:36:00 -
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I guess I'm somewhat of a rare breed as well. I havn't seen many New Zealanders around or I'm just ignorant but I first heard it through a guy who played FL. Checked it out but kinda forgot about it until another FL player sent me the demo through that buddy program. Two weeks and I was hooked
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Sergeant Spot
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Posted - 2005.03.24 05:50:00 -
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Originally by: Nero Scuro Americans don't like EVE (apparently). Not twitch-oriented enough, I guess...
I was going to tell you that your expressions of your real life Bigotry are not appropriate to these forums. However, I'll assume you did not mean it that way. But for the record, your post sure looked bigoted as hell.
As for Eve, its been in the U.S sense day one and its hardly a challenge to find yanks in game and in large numbers.
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Aleksey Azameen
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Posted - 2005.03.24 06:05:00 -
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Edited by: Aleksey Azameen on 24/03/2005 06:05:36
Originally by: Khristopher ...As for Eve being sold here I have never seen a boxed copy...
It was on the shelves at Wal-Mart (where I worked....yeah, evil place). I remember picking up the box and thinking about buying it. Then I said "Nah, I'll wait for Star Wars Galaxies to come out to play an MMORPG." What a mistake that decision was.
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Hobbsalong
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Posted - 2005.03.24 06:25:00 -
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Learnt about Eve well before it was released from some random website.
Was in the Beta for quite some time.
When it was finally released, I saw the copies in BestBuy for about a month.
Since then, I haven't seen even one copy in any of the major comp/elec stores.
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.03.24 07:29:00 -
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Edited by: Nero Scuro on 24/03/2005 08:13:47
Quote: Since when was WoW twitch? I am US player and love EVE, I think it is more that Americans don't know about it than that they don't like it. Other than the first box release I don't think there has been any sort of marketing for EVE in the states.
And where did I mention WoW? And there hasn't been any marketing in Europe either, as far as I was aware.
Quote: Completely ignorant response. You apparantly know aaaallll about Americans because you watch the new!
I lived in America for 2 years.
Quote: You know what we're like! Buncha fatties sitting around playing CS all day.
You said it, not me.
Quote: I was going to tell you that your expressions of your real life Bigotry are not appropriate to these forums. However, I'll assume you did not mean it that way. But for the record, your post sure looked bigoted as hell.
Bigoted - maybe. Insulting - not intentionally. I didn't say 'not intelligent enough' or 'not mindless enough'.
Personally, I'd call someone who looks down on people who like twitch-based games as bigoted, but that's just me, I guess. I'm a big CS fan and player. I like my twitch games just as much as my 'intelligent' games (not that EVE is an intelligent game, but whatever...).
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Quote: You're just the same OOC and IC, IGNORANT.
Oh, and this made me laugh. IC I play a person who hates people who are slavers, the Amarrians. Their ENTIRE racial traits is written on this website, a good few paragraphs, and just about all of it is talking about how they enslave, genocide and do other vaguely cruel things. That's it. There isn't any opinion to be had on the subject. They're a fictional, evil race.
So how the **** am I ignorant for hating them? Haha, you're such a dumbass.  ---------------- Haha, stupid monkey! Now I'VE got the Oscar! Enjoy your worthless gun! |

Mephorios
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Posted - 2005.03.24 08:08:00 -
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Originally by: Core Bash
Originally by: 3rdD Dave SHOCK HORROR!!! STOP THE PRESS !!
whats this Euros actually got the first before the americans? unlike films and dvds,hardware etc..
about bloody time too.
Yeah and that's the US EVE players' fault.  Since we're all overweight beef-shake slurping [arrogant] cowboys we can't move around a lot, so it would make sense we get all the movies first. It's a pity really.
That, my friend, made my evening.
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ollobrains
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Posted - 2005.03.24 08:32:00 -
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its the quite ones that are usually the better quality (star wars galaxies eeek reeeks of overcommericalisation)_
good to see CCP makinga profit though - good news long term
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Sharadar
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Posted - 2005.03.24 09:01:00 -
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Would it really be worth releasing it again in stores or doing expensive network adds? I havnt been to a game store in years, since so many of them seem to have converted to console-only stores, or at best a small wall display for the newer games. I got into EVE because one of my planetside mates was raving about it. I dont remember seeing any ads or boxes in the UK.
Interestingly, a while ago the PS players where getting in a srtess with sony for not advertising anywhere. After ages of whining, a few of the PS players made their own advertising video of PS (A huge amount of the work done by Marco Polo - Take a look), spammed in every forum they knew of, made PS CS:S sigs and sprayed, and spammed local channels on every other online game they played. The statistics for the site hosting the video and free trials went sky-high, and PS saw a boom of new players. If you truly want advertising to bring in new players, you can probably do it cheaper and better than CCP could. I tend to ignore all the ads I see out of habit, but when a friend of mine starts talking about a game I listen. Got one of my RL mates playing eve just a month ago :)
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ollobrains
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Posted - 2005.03.24 09:09:00 -
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im talking promoting on non game forums - financial investment forums etc - as well as dating sites, all sorts of things - keep it reasonably discreet though on some sites depending on linking policies - but it should help get more players into eve
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meowcat
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Posted - 2005.03.24 13:27:00 -
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i live in the UK and i have never seen any EVE advertising of any kind, anywhere. Nor have i ever seen the boxed version in any shop.
the lack of advertising is not limited to the US.
i found out about eve by typing "space combat trading game" into google... my BBC B / Acornsoft Elite doesnt really cut it anymore
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Bawldeux IV
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Posted - 2005.03.24 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Paw Sandberg is there any plans for CCP to release the game in the US ??
us US players are a rare breed in Eve (endangered species) + the fact that CCP could make BIG money if they where to relase it here (meaning buy add time on the networks)
Eve was in Best Buy stores (got my CD there, still got it) but shortly after, they pulled it off the shelves, rumors from the employees pointed towards too many complaints (was a very buggy time for Eve in it's beginning).
Now, I think they could convince the B.B. folks to give it another go. Why not try and strike a deal for those big gamer stores CCP, lets get some yank blood in the Eve universe.
an idea: Sell a reg key for the initial 30 day start up, but have them download the software. This gets store front attention, and still keeps your distro cost down to just a little card (no boxes needed). ::::::::::::::::::::::::: >>...wanna cookie?<< :::::::::::::::::::::::::
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.03.24 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: meowcat i live in the UK and i have never seen any EVE advertising of any kind, anywhere. Nor have i ever seen the boxed version in any shop.
the lack of advertising is not limited to the US.
i found out about eve by typing "space combat trading game" into google... my BBC B / Acornsoft Elite doesnt really cut it anymore
EVE may not be advertised in the UK, but it's easily purchasable in box-form. I got mine that way (although I found out about it through a follow-up review in PC Zone(was it PC Zone? Something like that...). I see EVE in almost every game shop I go to, a whole rack of 'em usually.
Also, I never got a game-code in my box (even though it was new). Had to make do with the 14 day free trial. So between the laughably out of date manual and the huge patches you'd have to download anyway, I can't recommended the boxed version anywho. ---------------- Haha, stupid monkey! Now I'VE got the Oscar! Enjoy your worthless gun! |

Harisdrop
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Posted - 2005.03.24 14:13:00 -
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OK if they actually advertised you guys would whine that there are too many on the server. Consider every Star Trek, Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica and many more fans out thier. The dream of 100k online would be instant.
I hope they keep it hidden. I hope they dont show off the greatest game ever made. --------------------------
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Tarm
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Posted - 2005.03.24 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: Nero Scuro --EDIT--
Quote: You're just the same OOC and IC, IGNORANT.
Oh, and this made me laugh. IC I play a person who hates people who are slavers, the Amarrians. Their ENTIRE racial traits is written on this website, a good few paragraphs, and just about all of it is talking about how they enslave, genocide and do other vaguely cruel things. That's it. There isn't any opinion to be had on the subject. They're a fictional, evil race.
So how the **** am I ignorant for hating them? Haha, you're such a dumbass. 
Way to use crude language to prove your "point."
You are IGNORANT not because you oppose the Amarrians, you are IGNORANT because you oppose every form of roleplay people try to make up. You are extremely critical of every single idea or story that comes accross the intergalactic board, CVA or not. You are nothing but a sad little person in need of an ego trip that types out vitriol towards anyone that tries to enjoy the game with roleplay. Every post on the EVE forums that you type out is full of negative destructive comments. EVE is a multiplayer game, so your opinion does not effect the play of others. Go play homeworld.
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Distress
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Posted - 2005.03.24 14:42:00 -
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I agree with the original poster....I live in the United Sates and just by chance ran across Eve in a store. I have never heard 1 word of advertising and can confirm that alot of my aquaintences and friends (who are hardcore gamers) have never heard of it. Advertising has proven to be a critical point in the sucess of any product. If they expect Eve to grow and survive they really need to consider an advertising campaign.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.03.24 14:52:00 -
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At first they were planning on releasing EVE in both Europe and US at the same time. But they had problems finding a European publisher, and for a while it looked like EVE would come in the US first, even though the servers and everything was in London. 
After a while they found a European publisher, but they went and made some deal with a British gaming store, giving them exclusive rights to sell EVE for the first few weeks. So EVE was more or less released in the US and UK. If you wanted it in the rest of Europe, or the rest of the world, you would have to import. 
I think it's still possible to get an old box if you want to, but I think EVE is mainly downloadable now. And I think we will see a lot more MMOGs that are released through the internet only, no box versions. Most games offer download and buy deals, and some goes so far as to only offer it that way. 
Oh, and lets not turn this into some silly US vs Europe war. 
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Chachurga
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Posted - 2005.03.24 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Tarm You know what we're like! Buncha fatties sitting around playing CS all day.
That about sums it up.
You got to add flag waving morons.
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.03.24 15:13:00 -
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Eve runs on Window Servers and MSSQL 
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Quanteeri
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Posted - 2005.03.24 15:40:00 -
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By the time I looked for the game in stores, Summer 2004, it had already come and gone. I think it would be wise for CCP to rerelease the game, and maybe purchase a couple 1 page adds in PC Gamer, if the hven't recently.
Oh and by the way, Nero Scuro, that is at least two off-handed remarks about Americans that you've initiated here on the boards in the last few days. Just because you may have lived here, doesn't give you merit to make any type of comment about us. You're bigotry is not appreciated.
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Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2005.03.24 15:48:00 -
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The Problem with downloadable games...NOT everyone has a 10.0Mbps connection with the internet. So if I was to lose my hard drive or the files get completly corrupted, it just aint worth my time to download the game again, even though I have the original box cd.
What Eve store should do is offer CD's with the current patch. I for one would buy one.
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Stepping Razor
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Posted - 2005.03.24 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Roshan longshot The Problem with downloadable games...NOT everyone has a 10.0Mbps connection with the internet. So if I was to lose my hard drive or the files get completly corrupted, it just aint worth my time to download the game again, even though I have the original box cd.
What Eve store should do is offer CD's with the current patch. I for one would buy one.
I agree 100%. I run the game on a modem until my telco can join the 20th century. I keep patches save on a burned CD, but a full reinstall that requires a full patch would just kill me. Downloading the whole thing (which I did once about 6 months ago) took I think a day and a half...
Razor
Originally by: Bonaventure Phaidon CCP is the best at at least three things: 1. Really, really fun gameplay 2. Good forum presence 3. Inventing new and exciting ways to bring about in-game catacly
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2005.03.24 16:10:00 -
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Every time I mention the game to someone they try to run out and look for the CD, even though I tell them to go download it. While I love the idea of a game I can download instead of buying physical media, a lot of others head to game stores to find things to play.
Would it be instead better for CCP to just simply advertise in stores like EB Games and such, since they don't have physical media to take up shelf space alongside everyone else? Make some really flashy posters, get em put up in stores. They may not come in droves, but it's better than no advertising. ___winterblink/warp_drive_active/eve_nature_vraie// |

Sharadar
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Posted - 2005.03.24 17:18:00 -
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I really dont have a problem downloading a 600Mb game, and I am on 56K most the time. Its still faster than ordering online and waiting for the box to arrive in the mail, or finding the time to go and find a boxed copy from a store. I had to do a complete re-install only a couple of months ago following a nasty hard disk failure. Luckily I was at home and on a 300Kbps connection - started the download in the morning, went to work, came home and it was done. Half-Life 2 (and assorted extras)...now THERE was a game that was a pain to download.
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Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2005.03.27 03:18:00 -
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I am sorry I should have claryfied :-)
I do live in the US myself (although I am Danish) I also did in fact buy Eve at walmart a box copy (still have it)
my complaint is what many other ppl here has said NO ADS at all for Eve
this is very upsetting to me due to the fact that Eve is a great Game
I feel that CCP need to buy some airtime on the major networks (TV) having some screen shots and telling peoble that you can try eve (for free) for 14 days
the only expense in getting Eve for anyone is the time in downloading it so there would be nothing lost if ppl dont like it
I just think its a shame that evenings my time there are useally less than 4000 ppl online (thats when there should be 10-12K ppl online as the Americans get off work and school and gets online)
also in regards to the gaming CD with the current version (especially after Exodus) was a good idear 3 months ago and its a good idear now
Thank You Paw Sandberg
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Roy Focker
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Posted - 2005.03.27 03:21:00 -
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Originally by: Tarm
Originally by: Nero Scuro Americans don't like EVE (apparently). Not twitch-oriented enough, I guess...
Completely ignorant response. You apparantly know aaaallll about Americans because you watch the news! You know what we're like! Buncha fatties sitting around playing CS all day.
You're just the same OOC and IC, IGNORANT.
No actually he is quite correct. Most US based game reviewing sites give EVE online a very low score.
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UPA Terf
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Posted - 2005.03.27 03:55:00 -
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Edited by: UPA Terf on 27/03/2005 03:56:30 You guys do realise that januarys US PC gamer magazine scored Eve Online: Exodus 80 something % with a review including a nice picture of a prophecy ship
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The1
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Posted - 2005.03.27 05:18:00 -
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I heard about he game in early 2003 in a story on XM Radio. Most of my corp mates are form the US. This is a stupid thread .................... OUT
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Khristopher
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Posted - 2005.03.27 05:50:00 -
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BTW Primagames.com still has the old Eve guide also. Its outdated but has some neat background info on the empires and the like for oddballs like me :)
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Dufas
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Posted - 2005.03.27 05:59:00 -
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When Planetarion was shutting down some ppl in the alliance i was in, Virus, told me about eve which was just comming out of beta...i found the box version at the nerd store, CompUSA, stopped off for a hamburger and a shake in my pick up truck wiht meh cowboy hat on (YEEEHAWWWW) then started playing...havnt stopped since arrrrrr
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Dau Imperius
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Posted - 2005.03.27 06:34:00 -
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I purchased my old EVE CD back in Best Buy in '03 when it came out.
Was still in the States then. But even if I wasn't what's the point? It's available to Download...for FREE! That's 50 bucks I could have saved had this been available two years ago.
And yes it's correct that most of us in the Stats have broadband (thanks to cable which is sorely lacking down here in New Zealand!), so go download it. There are very few people playing on-line games in the States who would dare touch a dial-up modem these days.
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Nuadh
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Posted - 2005.03.27 09:56:00 -
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Originally by: 3rdD Dave SHOCK HORROR!!! STOP THE PRESS !!
whats this Euros actually got the first before the americans? unlike films and dvds,hardware etc..
about bloody time too.
Tss you guys had things like Shawn of the dead and that other recent zombie movie before it was released over in north america... Those were better then most of the crap holywood releases these days
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H0ot
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Posted - 2005.03.27 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: SomePersonWhosNameIForgot Since when was WoW twitch?
For an RPG, WoW is more 'twitch' than anything else on the market.
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Dakath
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Posted - 2005.03.27 20:30:00 -
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I heard of EVE from friends here in Texas.
Fortunately for CCP this was not during a weekend of constant crashes, or I might have heard negative things about the game and not signed up! 
I chopped Bunny into little pieces.
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Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2005.03.29 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: The1 I heard about he game in early 2003 in a story on XM Radio. Most of my corp mates are form the US. This is a stupid thread .................... OUT
not a stupid thread
I see 3-5k ppl online between 5PM and 11PM my time
there are what over 300 mill Americans (yeah not sure of the exact number)
also I remember E&B having 20k ppl online at the samme time
I never did play everquest but I also understand that their numbers are way higher than Eve's
my opinion is that this is because no one has heard of Eve
and I feel that CCP need to get the word out better
again this is just my opinion and you may feel my opinion is wrong however that does not make it stupid 
Thank You Paw Sandberg
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2005.03.29 15:50:00 -
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E&B also had the marketing department of EA to help it out with advertising the game. They did everything but fly over major cities dumping propaganda leaflets on unsuspecting citizens.
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Watson
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Posted - 2005.03.29 16:30:00 -
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Uh... I distinctly remember seeing boxes of Eve in stores here in the US. And now it's released on the Internet. It doesn't matter *where* they are... all I see is '.com' |

jbob2000
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Posted - 2005.03.29 16:31:00 -
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More people = baaaddd
Why? Because then the servers get overcrowded, you get 13 year olds playing who don't understand anything, and you get 13 year olds who just go around doing senseless killing.
Also, a very popular game creates competition between game companies so if Eve became known by everyone with internet acces and a computer, then you get companies like EA who develop a knock-off of Eve for half thesubscription cost and huge advertisments that end up killing Eve. ----------------------------------------------- CANADIAN |

Winterblink
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Posted - 2005.03.29 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: jbob2000 Also, a very popular game creates competition between game companies so if Eve became known by everyone with internet acces and a computer, then you get companies like EA who develop a knock-off of Eve for half thesubscription cost and huge advertisments that end up killing Eve.
Doesn't matter. EA only supports their MMOs for six months then starts pulling development team members off the project for new Sims expansions, and the game dies a quick death. And they're a bunch of dirty money mongers, so I bet their subscription fee would be double EVE's, so less people would join in the long run.
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2005.03.29 17:27:00 -
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USA pre2000 pwns europe, and around 2009 we'll be the uber 1337 once again
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jbob2000
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Posted - 2005.03.29 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink Doesn't matter. EA only supports their MMOs for six months then starts pulling development team members off the project for new Sims expansions, and the game dies a quick death. And they're a bunch of dirty money mongers, so I bet their subscription fee would be double EVE's, so less people would join in the long run.
Never played any EA games anyways, so I was just assuming that because they're a big company, they can afford to have smaller subscription fees. ----------------------------------------------- CANADIAN |

Mr Popov
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Posted - 2005.03.29 18:46:00 -
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Edited by: Mr Popov on 29/03/2005 18:45:50 Everybody, CCP and the community have already given us the tools to promote EVE and even make money doing it. Take a look at the EVE Affiliate program here: https://secure.eve-online.com/affiliate/faq.asp (sorry, Opera doesn't let me create links on this forum for some reason)
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jbob2000
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Posted - 2005.03.29 19:00:00 -
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Yes we have the tools, but its soo much more professional when CCP puts up ads on gaming sites and such ----------------------------------------------- CANADIAN |

LLeBRing
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Posted - 2005.03.29 19:04:00 -
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I'm thinking about making a eve advert vid. Trying to anyway. Just hard because I don't have the tools available to get the shots I want.
OH OH OH GREAT IDEA!!!
On the Season Premiere of Stargate Atlantis & SG1 for next (July)
play the Exodus video. Guaranteed HUGE hit!! You'd get so many peeps that your servers would explode. No bs. You do that, and **** me. Crazy.
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Lazarus Bartok
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Posted - 2005.03.29 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: UPA Terf Edited by: UPA Terf on 27/03/2005 03:56:30 You guys do realise that januarys US PC gamer magazine scored Eve Online: Exodus 80 something % with a review including a nice picture of a prophecy ship
This is why I decided to try it.
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Sevarus James
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Posted - 2005.03.30 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: LLeBRing
OH OH OH GREAT IDEA!!! On the Season Premiere of Stargate Atlantis & SG1 for next (July) play the Exodus video. Guaranteed HUGE hit!! You'd get so many peeps that your servers would explode. No bs. You do that, and **** me. Crazy.
The sci-fi Friday slots....including the new Battlestar Galactica.........man if there were EVER a time for an 'EVE-commercial' that'd be it. Great idea! (now wonders at the COST of those 'spots' as that evening is the highest rated programming (and highest expense for ads, I'm betting) for SCI-FI's broadcast week.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2005.03.30 00:33:00 -
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I think CCP is afraid of getting too many players and not being able to keep up, that's the only way to explain the complete lack of advertising, must gamers in the US don't even know eve exists, and i'm sure they could pull in a lot of asians if they targeted that market.
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Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2005.03.30 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Sevarus James
Originally by: LLeBRing
OH OH OH GREAT IDEA!!! On the Season Premiere of Stargate Atlantis & SG1 for next (July) play the Exodus video. Guaranteed HUGE hit!! You'd get so many peeps that your servers would explode. No bs. You do that, and **** me. Crazy.
The sci-fi Friday slots....including the new Battlestar Galactica.........man if there were EVER a time for an 'EVE-commercial' that'd be it. Great idea! (now wonders at the COST of those 'spots' as that evening is the highest rated programming (and highest expense for ads, I'm betting) for SCI-FI's broadcast week.
very very true :-)
Thank You Paw Sandberg
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HUGO DRAX
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Posted - 2005.03.30 04:50:00 -
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I am a US player. I downloaded the game over the internet and I discovered this game by accident a few days ago. No advertising.
Space sims are a hard sell and do not do well on shelves. I think it is a bad idea to take on such costs for little sales. I think online sales is the right way.
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Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2005.03.30 05:21:00 -
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Originally by: HUGO DRAX I am a US player. I downloaded the game over the internet and I discovered this game by accident a few days ago. No advertising.
Space sims are a hard sell and do not do well on shelves. I think it is a bad idea to take on such costs for little sales. I think online sales is the right way.
I stumbled over the Internet Telecafe that way
it was a Canadian site little know but extremely popular by the ppl that used it (think yahoo msng for a group talk 15 years ago) we where a very loyal fan base proberly about 5000 ppl using the Telecafe I moved and quit using the program and the next time I logged in (about 10 years later) there was less than 100 ppl using it
the Telecafe was the best that was way better than ICQ or anything else out there now (if it still exist) its dead
I am afraid that unless CCP open their mouth and say hey look at us the samme thing will eventually happen to Eve
Thank You Paw Sandberg
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Imhotep Khem
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Posted - 2005.03.30 16:10:00 -
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I think its well established that CCP has all the load they can handle. When they get some extra bandwidth, they will likely push into the US market more.
Those east of the pond probably don't see us US folk because yall go to bed too soon I remember being in one mainly US corp, and fighting against a mainly UK corp. Was funny because we would just be logging on when they were done with their gate camps for the night...
There is the BLizzard approach which puts people from similar regions into similar servers. I though Eve was doing that at first when I thought french people would be put into the same region of space, and UK folks, etc. But I learned that your starting location instead is based on race/school. ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'. |

Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.03.30 16:25:00 -
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Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 30/03/2005 16:31:29 Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 30/03/2005 16:26:18 I stumbled onto Eve by accident because I activly looked for a MMO to play. I do however think an ad during Season Premier of Stargate Atlantis could draw in some I think Galtica might be a waist since it appears in Euro market first and sadly the people that would sign up will not see the ad because they will have already seen it. Which is also why TV producers should stop release first markets to help curb what they want to stop 
Though what worries me, how much is still true that you make them most moneies right after downtime. It has mattered to me since I pretty much left empire, but I remember way in the begining when the BS use to strip mine empire after downtime and I would log on EST US and find nothing and I can only imagine what it felt like for PST players ;_;
If somewhere this mechanic still exists, somewhere, Eve will never be successful into entering the US market in strong force like it has for Europe area.
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Vorak
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Posted - 2005.04.01 03:39:00 -
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A very simple way for CCP to reach US customers is to team up with BioWare. They can help promote EVE by adding it to their online store. http://store.bioware.com
Bioware is a great company and has a very large player base. With 2,442,272 users emails they can send out info about EVE in their newsletter. Sould be no problem getting another 10,000 new players :)
This could bring a lot of new players to the game and would be cheaper than trying to go the retail route. 
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Gakbug
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Posted - 2005.04.01 06:44:00 -
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Originally by: jbob2000 (cost me 70 though )
Which is 10 US dollars?
am i rite? 
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