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Major Killz
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
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Posted - 2012.10.22 21:54:00 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73491
ROFL CCP has butt sex'ed planned LP dumps [SMUG]-áSORRY for party rocking! v0v
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Megos Adriano
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
23
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Posted - 2012.10.22 22:02:00 -
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Can someone please explain to me the incentive to run plexes now?
Thanks. And boom goes the dynamite. |
Shaalira D'arc
Quantum Cats Syndicate
538
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Posted - 2012.10.22 22:03:00 -
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CCP has always been the best at trolling.
Well, this only demonstrates what market pvpers have known all along. Don't arrive late to the party. |
Megos Adriano
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
23
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Posted - 2012.10.22 22:11:00 -
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I already made my money.
I was hoping to make more in spare hours between classes.
Now I'm wondering why anyone would bother plexing?
Still, I suppose if it cuts down on the number of stabbed Merlins running around, all the better. After all, I did join FW to blow **** up, even if I did get sidetracked filling my moneybags. And boom goes the dynamite. |
Dread Pirate Pete
Tribal Core Defiant Legacy
81
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Posted - 2012.10.22 22:24:00 -
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The pvpers are out taking systems, the farmers are crying on coms, the rage when people log on tomorrow and find no more cashouts will be glorious. :D |
Major Killz
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
103
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Posted - 2012.10.22 22:28:00 -
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Well, now we don't even have to return to factional warfare. Had little lp here and there v0v Outlaw life from now on [SMUG]-áSORRY for party rocking! v0v
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Megos Adriano
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2012.10.22 22:28:00 -
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Dread Pirate Pete wrote:The pvpers are out taking systems, the farmers are crying on coms, the rage when people log on tomorrow and find no more cashouts will be glorious. :D
I agree, except PvPers didn't take systems, farmers and PvPers did.
But why take systems now? Much more fun to just shoot things, no? And boom goes the dynamite. |
David Campbell
Barricade.
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Posted - 2012.10.22 22:31:00 -
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I'll go stockpile on tissue as soon as the store opens tomorrow. I'm expecting a lot of farmer tears in militia chat :D Talk about Christmas coming early. |
Dread Pirate Pete
Tribal Core Defiant Legacy
81
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Posted - 2012.10.22 22:32:00 -
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Megos Adriano wrote:I agree, except PvPers didn't take systems, farmers and PvPers did.
But why take systems now? Much more fun to just shoot things, no?
Fair bit of shooting and roaming/plexing gangs around kourm right now, come join us. |
Dan Carter Murray
153
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Posted - 2012.10.22 23:17:00 -
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I foresee bunker busting gangs tonight...and 2 completely ****** factions forever whether the bunker busts happen or not. |
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Rezig Huruta
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
55
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Posted - 2012.10.22 23:21:00 -
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Dan Carter Murray wrote:I foresee bunker busting gangs tonight...and 2 completely ****** factions forever whether the bunker busts happen or not.
... Two completely what? Oh my lord! You've left me hanging. Happy? Lethargic? Xenophobic? Galactophorous? What's the secret word?! |
Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
337
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Posted - 2012.10.22 23:32:00 -
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Rezig Huruta wrote:Dan Carter Murray wrote:I foresee bunker busting gangs tonight...and 2 completely ****** factions forever whether the bunker busts happen or not. ... Two completely what? Oh my lord! You've left me hanging. Happy? Lethargic? Xenophobic? Galactophagous? What's the secret word?!
He probably meant 'changed forever'. Gallente FW Blog http://iamsheriff.com/blog C'est La Eve :) |
Major Killz
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
103
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Posted - 2012.10.22 23:40:00 -
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They're atempting to control all the systems. Funny thing is, based on CCP's changes. This new system doesn't really benifit those who have complete warzone control. Entities that focus on holding a constilation and using those systems for industrial purposes will benifit. The changes to NPC alone makes that clear. With that said. A player would find it alot easier to defensive plex than offensive plex. Defensive PLEXing will only happen if one side decides to do some serious offensive PLEXing. If the gallente have no interest in doing so. Then meh! to the whole thing and you just benifit from system upgrades.
There is always the possiblity of meta though. Having a alt corp in the other milltia to farm offensive while your corp defensives.
I DUNNO! From what I've read so far that seems like the gist of it. Could be wrong v0v [SMUG]-áSORRY for party rocking! v0v
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Mjolnir Gost
Providence Directorate Kraken.
13
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Posted - 2012.10.23 02:28:00 -
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Classy move CCP. And of course requisitely fail, very very fail. I am pissed about this, but not even remotely for the reason you might imagine.
I have a made a "few billion" off the broken FW rules, ofc. But nowhere, nowhere near what a decent or decripite farmer could make. Farmers exist in every game out there, fact, especially MMO's. They simply do. Nothing you do in any game with a loot mechanic will never ever stop them - ever - not now, not with this EVUH, feel me?.
The hard-core farmers will simply create two accounts now, or reshift their iskie efforts with the two accounts (or more) they already have, you aren't plugging anything here CCP.
What you are doing though CCP is directly -from a FW rules standpoint- completely unfair to the Caldari FW players that were already simply working within your broken rules. Which we didn't break - that YOU created. And "ninja'ing" these changes underscores what a lousy system you "fixed/broke" and just how unconcerned you are with the people that play within the rules. IE, Goonswarm ********* with CCP alts. There.
No CCP, you broke the FW and now you punish again, and again, as you did the first time you broke them, rinse wash and repeat.
Let me be very clear. Why is that everytime there is a FW change involving system control it falls when Caldari have the fewest and Gallente have the most? Coincidence? At this point, hardly...
You knew what we (Caldari) were planning CCP. Another dump, Dec 1. Boo-hoo. But you punish US for YOUR failure? Sorry you broke the rules kiddos, breaks. Now we pay for it? As an entire 9000 player faction? WOW.
Why Caldari? Why Minmitar?
I dunno, seems to be popular to say we are fail, and then create rules that hose us. This is history, not tears. This is Caldari's sad legacy, indeed. We get to be CCP's FW whipping boy AGAIN.
This is the kind of thing that makes you understand exactly how biased and completely slanted, unforgiving and frankly RUDE CCP is regarding FW and ultimately, the player base in general.
Yet another move guised as a fix, but in reality just a hose for those playing within the rules that CCP made, broke and otherwise didn't completey think through.
They simply don't care who, or how many players their "fixes" affect.
Reset the systems? Why not... but no CCP, let's make it as unbalanced as possible.
Tears? I'm space rich. IDK. But ultimately this shows the bias and irony that is FW.
GFY CCP. |
Zarnak Wulf
Imperial Outlaws
663
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Posted - 2012.10.23 02:58:00 -
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Response to above. |
Mjolnir Gost
Providence Directorate Kraken.
13
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Posted - 2012.10.23 02:58:00 -
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SIMPLY RESET SYSTEM CONTROL WHEN IT AFFECTS THE WHOLE FACTION. END RANT. |
Mjolnir Gost
Providence Directorate Kraken.
13
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Posted - 2012.10.23 02:59:00 -
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Unproductive. |
Mjolnir Gost
Providence Directorate Kraken.
13
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Posted - 2012.10.23 03:00:00 -
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And your link suxxors. |
Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
434
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Posted - 2012.10.23 03:14:00 -
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Mjolnir Ghost, do you even lift? Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
374
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Posted - 2012.10.23 03:16:00 -
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Mjolnir, that post... |
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Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
218
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Posted - 2012.10.23 03:17:00 -
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Thank God we will lose all the leeches and keep the PVP'ers We fly outgunned, We fly outnumbered. It's what we do. http://www.youtube.com/user/Flyinghotpocket/videos |
galenwade
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
21
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Posted - 2012.10.23 04:26:00 -
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Mjolnir Gost wrote:
No CCP, you broke the FW and now you punish again, and again, as you did the first time you broke them, rinse wash and repeat.
Let me be very clear. Why is that everytime there is a FW change involving system control it falls when Caldari have the fewest and Gallente have the most? Coincidence? At this point, hardly...
You knew what we (Caldari) were planning CCP. Another dump, Dec 1. Boo-hoo. But you punish US for YOUR failure? Sorry you broke the rules kiddos, breaks. Now we pay for it? As an entire 9000 player faction? WOW.
This is the kind of thing that makes you understand exactly how biased and completely slanted, unforgiving and frankly RUDE CCP is regarding FW and ultimately, the player base in general.
Yet another move guised as a fix, but in reality just a hose for those playing within the rules that CCP made, broke and otherwise didn't completey think through. .
Can i suggest loosening your tin foil hat just a little bit ?
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Mjolnir Gost
Providence Directorate Kraken.
13
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Posted - 2012.10.23 04:29:00 -
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galenwade wrote:Mjolnir Gost wrote:
No CCP, you broke the FW and now you punish again, and again, as you did the first time you broke them, rinse wash and repeat.
Let me be very clear. Why is that everytime there is a FW change involving system control it falls when Caldari have the fewest and Gallente have the most? Coincidence? At this point, hardly...
You knew what we (Caldari) were planning CCP. Another dump, Dec 1. Boo-hoo. But you punish US for YOUR failure? Sorry you broke the rules kiddos, breaks. Now we pay for it? As an entire 9000 player faction? WOW.
This is the kind of thing that makes you understand exactly how biased and completely slanted, unforgiving and frankly RUDE CCP is regarding FW and ultimately, the player base in general.
Yet another move guised as a fix, but in reality just a hose for those playing within the rules that CCP made, broke and otherwise didn't completey think through. .
Can i suggest loosening your tin foil hat just a little bit ?
Has CCP ever thought of looking at the FW MAP before a sweeping change like this?
Have you?
Do you have any idea what you are talking about.?
I doubt it.
How about you loosen your mouth from CCP's proverbial cod-piece?
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Mjolnir Gost
Providence Directorate Kraken.
13
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Posted - 2012.10.23 04:32:00 -
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The truth hurts but is extremely revealing... |
Mjolnir Gost
Providence Directorate Kraken.
13
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Posted - 2012.10.23 04:35:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Mjolnir, that post...
What? You bore me with innuendos of nothing.
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Tekitha
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
66
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Posted - 2012.10.23 04:36:00 -
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If you actually look past the "one last cash in" issue (which btw is effecting all factions, we all planned one last cash in ... not just caldari) the sudden appearence of these changes actually favours caldari heavily. After the announcement, the last 24 hours became a land grab for Caldari and there is / was little Gallente could do to stop caldari flipping a huge amount of systems (including some strategically important ones) which will be all but impossible to flip back with the new changes.
So while yes, caldari may have been hit rather harshly by missing one more tier 5, you can stil cash in all those LP's at tier 3 prices and you'll be in a pretty strong position with the amount of systems you own come tomorrow (if your system flipping continues the way it is until downtime)
Positives and negatives on both sides, hardly a ccp conspiracy to destroy the Caldari militia.
TL:DR - **** happens, but my lazors are still firing so lets have at it ... |
Mjolnir Gost
Providence Directorate Kraken.
13
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Posted - 2012.10.23 04:43:00 -
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Tekitha wrote:If you actually look past the "one last cash in" issue (which btw is effecting all factions, we all planned one last cash in ... not just caldari) the sudden appearence of these changes actually favours caldari heavily. After the announcement, the last 24 hours became a land grab for Caldari and there is / was little Gallente could do to stop caldari flipping a huge amount of systems (including some strategically important ones) which will be all but impossible to flip back with the new changes.
So while yes, caldari may have been hit rather harshly by missing one more tier 5, you can stil cash in all those LP's at tier 3 prices and you'll be in a pretty strong position with the amount of systems you own come tomorrow (if your system flipping continues the way it is until downtime)
Positives and negatives on both sides, hardly a ccp conspiracy to destroy the Caldari militia.
TL:DR - **** happens, but my lazors are still firing so lets have at it ...
TY, and agreed, Maybe I am "salty" that 50-100 guys do this all for a 9000 person faction. That's between me and god.
What I am concerned about is why the ninja rule change?
WHY?
TBH, "we" dont care about the LP dump. Those guys can kiss sand. Farmers farm, I PvP.
I am worried that the change favors the enemy (Galls) with defensive plex upgrades and system cotrol loss without recourse. That is disturbing.
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Tekitha
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
66
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Posted - 2012.10.23 04:51:00 -
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Mjolnir Gost wrote:
TY, and agreed, Maybe I am "salty" that 50-100 guys do this all for a 9000 person faction. That's between me and god.
What I am concerned about is why the ninja rule change?
WHY?
TBH, "we" dont care about the LP dump. Those guys can kiss sand. Farmers farm, I PvP.
I am worried that the change favors the enemy (Galls) with defensive plex upgrades and system cotrol loss without recourse. That is disturbing.
PS, certainly will not "destroy" Calmil, that has not been my point or aurgument. We will fight, outgunned, outnumbered, etc etc, from here until your titans rot. It was the method that got me. That's all.
you're missing my point. If you remove the ISK / LP farmers from the equation, Caldari has today flipped some important systems which Gallente will unlikely be able to flip back ... thats actually an advantage for you guys, not the other way around. |
Mjolnir Gost
Providence Directorate Kraken.
13
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Posted - 2012.10.23 05:01:00 -
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Tekitha wrote:Mjolnir Gost wrote:
TY, and agreed, Maybe I am "salty" that 50-100 guys do this all for a 9000 person faction. That's between me and god.
What I am concerned about is why the ninja rule change?
WHY?
TBH, "we" dont care about the LP dump. Those guys can kiss sand. Farmers farm, I PvP.
I am worried that the change favors the enemy (Galls) with defensive plex upgrades and system cotrol loss without recourse. That is disturbing.
PS, certainly will not "destroy" Calmil, that has not been my point or aurgument. We will fight, outgunned, outnumbered, etc etc, from here until your titans rot. It was the method that got me. That's all.
you're missing my point. If you remove the ISK / LP farmers from the equation, Caldari has today flipped some important systems which Gallente will unlikely be able to flip back ... thats actually an advantage for you guys, not the other way around.
Yes, we did.
That was entirely "forced" as a result of TODAYS announcement.
You do see how today was a little short on notice of these changes given the stakes and scope don't you? |
Mjolnir Gost
Providence Directorate Kraken.
13
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Posted - 2012.10.23 05:03:00 -
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Tekitha wrote:Mjolnir Gost wrote:
TY, and agreed, Maybe I am "salty" that 50-100 guys do this all for a 9000 person faction. That's between me and god.
What I am concerned about is why the ninja rule change?
WHY?
TBH, "we" dont care about the LP dump. Those guys can kiss sand. Farmers farm, I PvP.
I am worried that the change favors the enemy (Galls) with defensive plex upgrades and system cotrol loss without recourse. That is disturbing.
PS, certainly will not "destroy" Calmil, that has not been my point or aurgument. We will fight, outgunned, outnumbered, etc etc, from here until your titans rot. It was the method that got me. That's all.
you're missing my point. If you remove the ISK / LP farmers from the equation, Caldari has today flipped some important systems which Gallente will unlikely be able to flip back ... thats actually an advantage for you guys, not the other way around.
TBH I appreciate your point and compliments. Please note that I am concerned mainly with CCP's ninja method of implementing these changes.
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