Why are you reposting this and in a tune that you like you were all over it from the beginning?

*casts personal attack

but seriously, what are you even talking about, I've read it like 3 times and still lost.

But nobody shunned you in the last thread....

The second part is correct, you are a troll, but that's not really the subject here.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=156334

You and I aren't on the same page it seems.

And I was referring to that thread the entire time.

For you or anybody else to say that Anonymous had nothing to do with the uprisings in the middle east or their subsequent success is not only broadly offensive and ignorant it is insulting to ME as somebody who participating in the uprisings.

Isn't participating (whatever that means in this case) in anonymous Anonymous activities in order to get personal recognition very illogical and beside the point of the organisation?

Oh man I thought I was the only one who about this. I thought the entire point of anonymous was being anonymous. Our OP is about as anonymous as Paris Hilton at a photo shoot. I mean we all know what he looks like, his name, and his address. Whats to stop a random misfit from contacting the FBI or something with information about a member of anon who is telling us that he part of some operation?

As a rather new member of the forums I gave you the benefit of doubt and read the thread you referred to. Your "evidence" wasn't exactly substantial: an Al-Jazeera slideshow and your own words. So I can't see why anyone should have taken it seriously.

And then again, why would you even give a **** what other people think about the Anonymous? In the other thread you said:



Isn't participating (whatever that means in this case) in anonymous Anonymous activities in order to get personal recognition very illogical and beside the point of the organisation?

As a rather new member of the forums I gave you the benefit of doubt and read the thread you referred to. Your "evidence" wasn't exactly substantial: an Al-Jazeera slideshow and your own words. So I can't see why anyone should have taken it seriously.

Isn't participating (whatever that means in this case) in anonymous Anonymous activities in order to get personal recognition very illogical and beside the point of the organisation?

This is why I don't hold much respect for people with psychology degrees. Xenuria, who's a self proclaimed psychology student, can't understand what gives a person credibility and misses the simplest concepts of an organization he's supposedly heavily involved with.

Since when did you become an expert on the core concepts and ideas of Anonymous?
Anonymous is many things and one of it's facets of purpose is to inform an share knowledge.



Let us assume just for the sake of argument that you are some sort of supreme arbitrator of all things Anonymous (even though such a thing would never exist). What in particular am I doing wrong in your eyes?

The purpose was to inform people about what's going on in the world.

Really? People don't care unless it directly impacts upon their own tiny bubble-world in a meaningful way and that's the kind of information people - except stalkers - can't provide.

It is a principle stating that among competing hypotheses, the one which makes the fewest assumptions should be selected.

Cassandra Syndrome is a form of Asperger's, but most likely or occam's razor version? People want to refute it for the craic.



Also, you do actually risk standing out in a crowd as outrageous. If your ideas are concrete and you believe that the influence was malevolent in any way see someone.


You should join a different Hacktivist group


EDIT**: Or leave hack groups altogther and become a Jesuit.

You make a valid point. I think I would be the exception to that rule. I often find myself deeply invested in the events of the world around me even if the impact these events have on me personally is minimal.



~Not Talking About It~ goes against the core ideologies of Anonymous as a whole. Anonymous is about free knowledge, A flow of information to generate consensus. Then again Anonymous can (Often Does) mean different things to different people. At this point I am unsure if you are trolling or simply view anonymous in a way that falls outside what the consensus is.
When you mentioned fight club that was a red flag for me and really undid any argument you might have had because now people will probably make assumptions about you and figure you are just trolling or "alternative" in your perceptions of Anonymous.

I have no idea what you are trying to say.

I have no idea what you are trying to say.

Always agreed with everything you said, and still believe 'Anonymous' has been infiltrated and subverted by the CIA.

Throughout the history of the CIA you'll find hundreds of examples of them sowing dissent and overthrowing foreign governments. They specialize in that sort of thing, and over the last 65 years they have become very good at it. 'Hacktivism' is just a new mask for them to wear.

And when they aren't busy doing the CIAs job in other countries, they're doing things that have no discernible purpose other than to make a case for stricter internet policing in the west.

[IIRC that is the NSA, not the CIA

Unless I dreamt it, I was under the impression the NSA was internal and the CIA did the stuff on foreign soil.

And there is no inter agency sharing of information

EDIT**: Or leave hack groups altogther and become a Jesuit.

This was never about personal recognition, you just chose to interpret it that way. This was always about getting the word out and informing people about what is happening in their world. I was very frustrated back then that people were so quick to doubt me when I had seen first hand and even participated in the arab spring. Don't misunderstand me, I am not trying to say that I am some sort of big freaking deal or that anybody should be impressed with me. In truth the work I did and my level of participation was dwarfed by that of those with way more free time and resources then I had. This was and still is about trying to inform people.

Gah wall of text deflecting and spinning.