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Kehro Urgus
Ab Obice Saevior
480
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Posted - 2012.10.24 01:49:00 -
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I've had nothing but grief with tech 3 ships (proteus). It would work fine until suddenly it would take damage like it was the broad side of a barn with no resists then instapop. I've had the same one refunded 3 times about 2 years ago. I posted screenshots of it with a missing subsystem and zero resists once on the help forum. Last time I used one was on Sisi. It was great for a while then all of a sudden some subsystems would refuse to load when refitting and the only way I could clear it up was to trash the ship. I filed a bug report but nothing seemed to be done about it and the report expired.
Question for the OP: Did the skill loss come right after it blew or not until after you relogged? If it didn't come until after relogging there is obviously something wrong ie. skills not applying. Thought they fixed this but doesn't appear so. I don't always troll, but when I do I do it on EVE Online forums.
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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
563
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Posted - 2012.10.24 01:52:00 -
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I've lost my ship and been podded twice over the years when everything just locked up on me. Suspiciously, it's never happened any other time. Just when those two people attacked.
Wouldn't surprise me at all to find out someday there have been undetected exploits in use for years now. I wonder if CCP would even tell us, or just discretely fix it. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |

Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.10.24 02:00:00 -
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Vulix wrote:See screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/SKm6z.jpgWhat is this CCP? I am unsubbing, my 2 year career ends today. This game is broken as **** and there are new games coming out. You're that CAS troll, eh? I remember you :P everyone blocked you in corp chat |

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
871
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Posted - 2012.10.24 02:01:00 -
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As much as I hate idiotic people posting with NPC corp forum alts that looks pretty screwed up.
Pretty sure if you petition hard enough you'll get reimbursed seeing as CCP has taken to reimbursing PVP losses as a matter of course recently. |

Filestra
Viziam Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.10.24 02:15:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:As much as I hate idiotic people posting with NPC corp forum alts that looks pretty screwed up.
Pretty sure if you petition hard enough you'll get reimbursed seeing as CCP has taken to reimbursing PVP losses as a matter of course recently. they only reimbursed the items destroyed in your ship what about the module drop I don't think they will return it to u m8 so again CCP that's 1 hell of a very nice JOB tsk tsk tsk |

Soon Shin
Caucasian Culture Club Transmission Lost
172
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Posted - 2012.10.24 02:16:00 -
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There is definately screwed up with that, I'm would be disappointed if CCP did not reimburse you, this is pretty clear cut that its an issue. |

trited
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.10.24 02:20:00 -
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Filestra wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:As much as I hate idiotic people posting with NPC corp forum alts that looks pretty screwed up.
Pretty sure if you petition hard enough you'll get reimbursed seeing as CCP has taken to reimbursing PVP losses as a matter of course recently. they only reimbursed the items destroyed in your ship what about the module drop I don't think they will return it to u m8 so again CCP that's 1 hell of a very nice JOB tsk tsk tsk
Haha spot on, they probably wont return any dropped modules as you could have got them back by your self. In your pod.. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1839
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Posted - 2012.10.24 02:23:00 -
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Looks like there is a stabber using a warp scram from over 549K on the overview and the target is 522K.
Something broke but is it to quit over?
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Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
644
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Posted - 2012.10.24 02:25:00 -
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Xenuria wrote:This reminds me of the time I lost a 8bil Proteus to "stop the theif" because my ship became non-responsive.
It reminds me of a couple days ago when I lost my Coveyship in null to a bubble and 6 cloakers uncloaking and immediately firing the swift hammer of lag at me.
But it was probably my fault.
CEO of B.U.T.T.
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No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1500
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Posted - 2012.10.24 03:29:00 -
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Hello desync
it happens all the time breh
This is one of those things I brought up in the CSM thread about how they wanted to change the voting system, and I said: "Hey, why don't y'all lobby for really really broken stuff like these overview things?"
And Alekseyev Karde was like: "What really really broken things?
 primary target is broadcasted, put all drones on the warp disruption battery. If you are in a frigate you should be at the gate, who blew up? |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
1960
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Posted - 2012.10.24 03:53:00 -
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Desync happens to me frequently. It could be my six-years-old hardware, it could be my latency due to living in Australia, it could be the phase of the moon. Typical symptoms Remont being able to web the ship I am orbiting because it is 80km away even though I see my ship orbiting the target at 5km, taking damage from ships which aren't shooting, etc.
So I encourage OP to repeat the EVE mantra while contemplating the meaning of loss.
I will not fly what I am not willing to lose. I will not fly what I am not willing to lose. I will not fly what I am not willing to lose.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

Vulix
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
99
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Posted - 2012.10.24 03:56:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Desync happens to me frequently. It could be my six-years-old hardware, it could be my latency due to living in Australia, it could be the phase of the moon. Typical symptoms Remont being able to web the ship I am orbiting because it is 80km away even though I see my ship orbiting the target at 5km, taking damage from ships which aren't shooting, etc.
So I encourage OP to repeat the EVE mantra while contemplating the meaning of loss.
I will not fly what I am not willing to lose. I will not fly what I am not willing to lose. I will not fly what I am not willing to lose.
I am willing to lose it, which is why I am flying it solo in null sec.
Bugs are lame though. |

Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
812
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Posted - 2012.10.24 04:02:00 -
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you can't lock past 250km so anything hitting you at that range is a bug or hack, petition it. |

Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
1378
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Posted - 2012.10.24 04:33:00 -
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Vulix wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:Desync happens to me frequently. It could be my six-years-old hardware, it could be my latency due to living in Australia, it could be the phase of the moon. Typical symptoms Remont being able to web the ship I am orbiting because it is 80km away even though I see my ship orbiting the target at 5km, taking damage from ships which aren't shooting, etc.
So I encourage OP to repeat the EVE mantra while contemplating the meaning of loss.
I will not fly what I am not willing to lose. I will not fly what I am not willing to lose. I will not fly what I am not willing to lose.
I am willing to lose it, which is why I am flying it solo in null sec. Bugs are lame though.
It's not so much a bug. For whatever reason your client and the server disagreed about what was really going on. Something happened in the middle to cause this, your comp lagging, you router dropping packets, your ISP dropping packets or something like that. 99% of the time there isn't much CCP can do about these. Thankfully for most people these are really rare.
The last one I had I got stuck flying in a straight line out of dodi. Through chat I was able to hear from people that I was actually warping from gate to gate and even jumping. But from my screen I was still flying from dodi, seeing people on grid over 100,000km away. The only way to solve it was to relog and when I did I was at where my friends said I was at.
In the case of your fight a quick 10 second relog probably would have done it for you.
To the rest of the idiots here (particularly Mara Rinn in this case), he was already out to PVP, he knew he was gonna lose it but is unhappy with the circumstances in which it happened. The Drake is a Lie |

Herr Hammer Draken
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
140
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Posted - 2012.10.24 04:35:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:you can't lock past 250km so anything hitting you at that range is a bug or hack, petition it.
I can see CCP's point of view on this. If it is a desync problem then the log will not show that he was 500+ km away from the ships that attacked him. The other guys client would not have shown that they were 500+ km away either.
It is only the op's client that showed this 500+km sequence of events. From CCP's point of view they have no way of insuring that the op's computer is in good working order. In other words the fault for this desync could be the op's computer and not CCP's problem. This seems to be the position CCP has taken on these desync's in the past from replies people have recieved from CCP in the past on this issue.
Yet at the same time that position only works if this only happens once or twice. If it happens with some regular frequency and shows signs of a repeatable problem, then maybe it is in fact CCP's problem with some strange bit of code that they have not been able to track down. This second thought seems to have some validity as their are a number of others saying the same thing occured to them which makes it unlikely that all of them have bad computers. And more likely that this is a CCP problem. Even if they can not track it from their end. Herr Hammer Draken "The Amarr Prophet" |

Ager Agemo
Saturn Reaper
115
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Posted - 2012.10.24 04:41:00 -
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personally this is just lag client side, or desync as mentioned, funny thing is Each and single time i have seen it happen, it has been always with T3 ships involved which is weird, my legion, a friend legion, some tengus, your proteus. i wonder if there might be something more to it. |

Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
1378
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Posted - 2012.10.24 04:54:00 -
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Here's my own desynch http://i.imgur.com/owdUa.png The Drake is a Lie |

Piugattuk
CLOROFLORFILAPLANKTONPLATES
79
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Posted - 2012.10.24 05:11:00 -
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I had a weird problem during lvl 4 mission my computer crashed hard but luckily my SNI was tanky enough to take it while I reset it |

Keno Skir
Vectis Covert Solutions
240
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Posted - 2012.10.24 05:13:00 -
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Vulix wrote:This is my troll character
Then you are an idiot, with nothing worthwhile to say. If you have any further thoughts on something i've posted, or want to ask an unrelated question feel free to contact me by EvE Mail or by private conversation if i'm online. BUDDY TRIALS AVAILABLE - 21days plus big ISK bonus and starting assistance |

Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
334
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Posted - 2012.10.24 08:13:00 -
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Gogela wrote:Doddy wrote:Oh look, a desync, how boring.
If you have been playing 2 years and never had a desync you are pretty lucky tbh. Its usually client side so you will probably get "logs show nothing". I have never been desynced 500k though, but i guess the faster your ship the more you can desync. Is that's what's going on? It's been a long time since I had one... think like 2007. I thought that got fixed... Not another infinity gun I hope...
Its much rarer now but seems to be more extreme and happens for no apparent reason where before it usually happened on jumping/bridging into a really stressed node.
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
916
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Posted - 2012.10.24 08:22:00 -
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Just tell CCP that you have 20 accounts. Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |

Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
187
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Posted - 2012.10.24 08:48:00 -
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Definately petition it, no way people are allowed to engage and kill at that range. Would be completely game-breaking. |

Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1597
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Posted - 2012.10.24 08:56:00 -
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Judging solely by the screenshot. If this ain't reimbursable, CCP should just remove any reimbursement policy altogether imo. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer |

Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar Intrepid Crossing
183
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Posted - 2012.10.24 08:58:00 -
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Well if you must go to planetside 2 perhaps you can join my outfit there? :P I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10088
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Posted - 2012.10.24 09:06:00 -
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Sarah Schneider wrote:Judging solely by the screenshot. If this ain't reimbursable, CCP should just remove any reimbursement policy altogether imo. That's why they don't judge anything bye screen shots: because they don't really tell you anything. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5308
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Posted - 2012.10.24 09:15:00 -
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Vulix wrote:Yeah I'm kind of expecting that, in which case I will probably unsub for a long time. If this game is still around a few patches from now (I expect it too) I may try it again then. Otherwise, you can probably find me on planetside 2 or something.
Losing in-game effort to a bug, which is CCP's problem, is just too fun-breaking for me. Hopefully they fix it
This is the same company that couldn't determine whether an Aeon that was blown up was inside the shields of an online POS the moment it died. It was.
I wouldn't expect reimbursement for this, especially since it was a client-side issue that they cannot verify. But if bugs will tear you away from a game, you might as well not play any games ever. This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
fofofofofo |

Silence iKillYouu
KA POW POW Inc Late Night Alliance
203
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Posted - 2012.10.24 09:23:00 -
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we all know your not unsubbing http://fw-frontline.blogspot.com/ |

Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
335
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Posted - 2012.10.24 09:24:00 -
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Sarah Schneider wrote:Judging solely by the screenshot. If this ain't reimbursable, CCP should just remove any reimbursement policy altogether imo.
Not really, i mean that could be a modified client for all they know.
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bufnitza calatoare
Snap Crackle Pop. Relativity Alliance
3
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Posted - 2012.10.24 09:27:00 -
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two things.
1st. can I have your character and its stuff hen you quit? 2nd. so what you lost a ship. obviously you cant afford the loss so you should not have flown it. |

Antir
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.10.24 10:12:00 -
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Andski wrote:Vulix wrote:Yeah I'm kind of expecting that, in which case I will probably unsub for a long time. If this game is still around a few patches from now (I expect it too) I may try it again then. Otherwise, you can probably find me on planetside 2 or something.
Losing in-game effort to a bug, which is CCP's problem, is just too fun-breaking for me. Hopefully they fix it This is the same company that couldn't determine whether an Aeon that was blown up was inside the shields of an online POS the moment it died. It was. I wouldn't expect reimbursement for this, especially since it was a client-side issue that they cannot verify. But if bugs will tear you away from a game, you might as well not play any games ever.
That happened twice the one in vfk the and the one in fountain. Did the wrecks spawned inside the shields or am I misremembering?
I have witnessed desync as recently as two days ago when a pair of dreads thought they were within 5km of a pos tower but were actually way outside the shields on everyone elses clients. |
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