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Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
340
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:33:00 -
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As usual solo pvp isn't considered important by CCP so they are nerfing the biggest solo pvp buff in the history of EVE: The ASB. It will now have half clip capacity so you can't use two of them for a good solo tank.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155474
I know that shield tankers, solo players, and the caldari aren't allowed to have good stuff CCP but seriously? Just remove the option for solo pvp. |
Alice Saki
14760
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:35:00 -
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Erm.... ASB made it worst.
Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused.
I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Zimmy Zeta
Paramount Commerce
2208
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:38:00 -
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Instead of writing an elaborate post about shield tanking vs. armor tanking and balancing issues with the ASB, I'll provide you the movie quote of the day:
"No tears, please- it's a waste of good suffering."
Pinhead- Hellraiser
For best results and enhanced forum experience, please read my posts in Snooki's voice |
Jim Era
5732
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:38:00 -
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asb's are bad mmkay
and you are worse |
Iam a Spy2
solo and loveing it
5
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:39:00 -
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No ASB were way over powered and i should know i used them on my Sleipnir. There was no matching them in any shape or form.
Get over it they out did all other forms of tanking i have seen kill mails were a sleipnir with dual larger ABS held off 4 to 5 other cruisers/battlecruisers and won the fight with dual ASB setup.
So dont tell me fititng them were not over power. be happy you can still fit two asb when most are calling for beening able to fit just one. |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks
Executive Outcomes
252
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:46:00 -
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I shall translate OP's post for you:
"CCP is killing solo PvP that involved double ASB mods. You know? The type of solo PvP that was the only one that worked because if you didn't fit dual ASBs you couldn't fight other solo PvPers who did".
"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Jonah Gravenstein
Mahatma Cote Temporal Research
1685
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:52:00 -
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ASBs are OP at the moment, CCP know it & most of the people who use them know it, which is why they use them.
Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum
-á-á-á ---CCP can't patch stupid--- |
Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
182
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Posted - 2012.10.24 15:58:00 -
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I had plenty of fun in single ASB setups. If anything, this nerf simply makes dual asbs a requisite rather than a safer alternative to single, singles wont last anywhere near long enough.
GFGFGFGFGFGFGFGFGF |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
1049
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Posted - 2012.10.24 16:03:00 -
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I'll still be using my dual ASB Phantasm for solo PVP.
http://themittani.com/features/local-problem
A simple fix to the local intel problem |
Silk daShocka
Greasy Hair Club
50
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Posted - 2012.10.24 16:04:00 -
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So I guess having an ASB on your solo ship made it better than your opponent who had an ASB on his ship?
Seems the logic is missing on this one. |
MadMuppet
A Better Corp Name
577
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Posted - 2012.10.24 16:04:00 -
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Dear OP, the ASB was OP, now you are POed.
If I tried to make a type of coffee that made all of you happy, and you rated it, the group score for it would be about 60 out of 100. Break into 3 or 4 coffee clusters, and made coffee just for each cluster, the scores would go from 60 to 78. The difference between coffee at 60 and coffee at 78 is a difference between coffee that makes you wince or makes you happy. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
260
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Posted - 2012.10.24 16:49:00 -
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Oh noes! This module being nerfed will kill the game! What ever will people do without OP ASB? How did people survive this harsh an unforgiving universe without it, and how will they survive with a slightly less effective version? Oh god the humanity! Think of the children!
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Cazador 64
Nightmare Logistics
12
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:06:00 -
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It's very easy for people who don't use these set ups to agree with the nerfs. I on the other hand being Caldari while I do not PVP can not understand CCPs beef with the caldari. Just feels like we are always at the center focus for nerfs HML ? caldari pilots have very few advantages as it is and they just keep taking more and more away. Yet I see nothing to counteract these nerfs . this is what you get when you allow the devs to play the game IMO. And don't tell me they do not do things to fit their agenda less I remind you on a little issue there was with bpos |
Budrick3
Douchingtons
5
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Posted - 2012.10.24 17:22:00 -
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ASBs are just fine if limited to only one module per ship. Two on a single ship is very over powered (Speaking from experience) |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1402
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Posted - 2012.10.24 19:17:00 -
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Just posting to confirm the math behind this rant.
7 is indeed half of 10.
Carry on.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Lord Calus
Fractured Core
Fatal Ascension
24
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Posted - 2012.10.24 19:18:00 -
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I too abuse game mechanics until they are fixed then claim CCP hates my play style.
1/10 only because you got me to reply to scoff at you. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air
The Unthinkables
2025
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Posted - 2012.10.24 19:21:00 -
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so how does the ASB buff 'solo PVP' exactly?
does having two ASBs fitted prevent the enemy from attacking you with two dual-ASB fit ships or something? |
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
101
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Posted - 2012.10.24 19:34:00 -
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Apparently OP can't read
"Again, we're still in the process of figuring out the best way to adjust the ASBs, so don't take the current stats as the final word on what will happen in the winter expansion. Hopefully this is just the first test of many with you guys."
get on test, try it out and provide feedback in the appropriate forum. |
Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics
K162
711
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Posted - 2012.10.24 19:34:00 -
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ASB made ALL other forms of tank obsolete for solo.
It definitely needs a nerf. |
baltec1
Bat Country
2546
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Posted - 2012.10.24 19:40:00 -
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About time. |
Marlona Sky
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
1587
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Posted - 2012.10.24 19:43:00 -
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ASB was gods gift to bait tanks. Before you had a chance to kill the bait and escape before the blob landed on you. Now with dual ASB bait ships there is no chance.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Silk daShocka
Greasy Hair Club
50
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Posted - 2012.10.24 19:45:00 -
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Cazador 64 wrote:It's very easy for people who don't use these set ups to agree with the nerfs. I on the other hand being Caldari while I do not PVP can not understand CCPs beef with the caldari. Just feels like we are always at the center focus for nerfs HML ? caldari pilots have very few advantages as it is and they just keep taking more and more away. Yet I see nothing to counteract these nerfs . this is what you get when you allow the devs to play the game IMO. And don't tell me they do not do things to fit their agenda less I remind you on a little issue there was with bpos
I guess you never realized that ASB's were being put on basically every ship in the game.
Clearly the nerf won't affect asb fits on lets say, sleipnir, vargur, maelstrom, cyclone, jaguar.
Damn CCP and their anti-caldari agenda. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
862
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Posted - 2012.10.24 19:47:00 -
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What tha...?
You're say'in I can't take any more on 10+arty cynabals shooting me on optimal without ever being able to kill my Sleipnir???
This is ridiculous !! 
(it's about time even "smart" people figure out this crap needs to go away)
brb |
M1k3y Koontz
Blackened Skies
Nulli Secunda
53
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Posted - 2012.10.24 19:54:00 -
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ASB broke solo the same way it buffed it.
It meant that a solo person couldnt kill anyone wiht an ASB until the ASB ran out of charges.
On the other hand, it let the solo'er tank a blob and try to kill someone before they die.
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:shield tankers, . . . aren't allowed to have good stuff
Do you even play eve? When was the last time you saw someone roaming in an armor ship? Some people these days... 
How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp. |
M1k3y Koontz
Blackened Skies
Nulli Secunda
53
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Posted - 2012.10.24 19:56:00 -
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Soi Mala wrote:I had plenty of fun in single ASB setups. If anything, this nerf simply makes dual asbs a requisite rather than a safer alternative to single, singles wont last anywhere near long enough.
GFGFGFGFGFGFGFGFGF
It more limits dual ASB fits since the time where both modules are reloading is lengthened from the lower capacity.
Also nerfs single ASB fits, but not quite as significantly
(Still think the ASBs should get 10 navy charges rather than 9, just for the sake of having a nice round number...)
How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp. |
Suitonia
Corp 54
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
122
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Posted - 2012.10.24 19:57:00 -
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ASBs hurt solo so bad since it gave everyone godlike active tanks. ECM drones combined with ASBS meant that you would definately get jams during the fight so could leave at any point, and its much easier for them to bring in their friends since you have to sit shooting a guy for 5 minutes until his ASB charges run out
thank god it's going to be more reasonable. |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
67
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Posted - 2012.10.24 19:59:00 -
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Iam a Spy2 wrote:No ASB were way over powered and i should know i used them on my Sleipnir. There was no matching them in any shape or form.
Get over it they out did all other forms of tanking i have seen kill mails were a sleipnir with dual larger ABS held off 4 to 5 other cruisers/battlecruisers and won the fight with dual ASB setup.
So dont tell me fititng them were not over power. be happy you can still fit two asb when most are calling for beening able to fit just one.
A Sleipnir could have won that fight without ASBs. |
Gibbo5771
RAM Legion DOT Reloaded DOT
25
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Posted - 2012.10.24 20:04:00 -
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Alice Saki wrote:Erm.... ASB made it worst.
This.
How the hell did this module make anything in solo easier?
Trying to engage frig gangs with an arty wolf, everyone has an ASB.
Engaging Vaga's with anything, ASB.
Every shield BS, neuts useless, ASB.
Every BC with enough fitting, ASB.
It got to the point that yeah, it was a great boost when it first came out for the solo players. Then it got to the point everyone was fitting them and the regular solo ships we love, couldnt break the tank of anything. |
usrevenge
Enlightened Industries
Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2012.10.24 21:01:00 -
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the nerf doesn't even see so bad... |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
692
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Posted - 2012.10.24 21:05:00 -
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ASB changes were needed! |
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