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La Muerte
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Posted - 2005.03.30 18:00:00 -
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Hi everyone,
With all these threads being launched on how the level 4 missions are so uber,i thought i'd try to look at it from another perspective.
So how many ship did you guys loose when doing 'em and how?
As for me,I think i lost 4-5 Apocs now in these missions.First time being when exodus got released,and i woz kinda overwhelmed by the opposition.(Think my first level 4 mission woz Damsel  )
Second time i was chatterboxing too much,and only turned on my hardeners when it woz too late (hi rybex).
Third time , once again , i woz paying too much attention to a not so important convo (Well,what's more important than your fully equipped Apoc in full combat?)
Fourth time i wozn't really paying attention and aggrod the whole pack by accident.
Fifth time woz after i had been getting over 15 Sansha missions,and i got conditioned on doing easy mission,so when a tough mission came up....well,u can guess what happened
Well,as you can read level 4 missions can be expensive entertainment.U don't even wanna know what mods i lost...
I'm sure i'm not the only one who has lost a couple of ships in these missions,so feel free to add your stories...
PS:This thread is NOT about level 4 missions being uber,so keep that discussion out of here.Thx.
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aeti
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Posted - 2005.03.30 18:04:00 -
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not lost anything yet
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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2005.03.30 18:30:00 -
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I lost a shuttle scouting Damsel the day that level 4 missions were released.
Since then, I have lost many, many, many piles of ammunition.
And 3 heavy drones.
Missions are too hard.
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Question2
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Posted - 2005.03.30 18:39:00 -
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Judging from the ship lost indicator i would guess people regularly lose tons of ships to level 4s.
Partly thanks to latest server network issues.
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Kesh McCall
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Posted - 2005.03.30 19:10:00 -
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5 Ravens in the past 14 days ... all to the same Warp allign bug in the same mission, and ofc without refunds.
Conclusion .. aint doing that Mission anymore.
And i still have to figure out how people should be able to make 20 milo an hors doing LV4s ... thats what i make around a whole day. Along with 7800 km3 basic trash.
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Jaketh Ivanes
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Posted - 2005.03.30 19:20:00 -
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I think i've lost like 1 BS and a Destroyer on Lvl 4 missions. Both in the first few days after they came out.
Originally by: Kesh McCall
And i still have to figure out how people should be able to make 20 milo an hors doing LV4s ... thats what i make around a whole day. Along with 7800 km3 basic trash.
There is a mission called "Vengence". It drops 20 mill in bounties alone, ofc ****ty loot  . It takes about 1 hour to complete solo and is rather easy :)
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2005.03.30 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Kesh McCall
5 Ravens in the past 14 days ... all to the same Warp allign bug in the same mission, and ofc without refunds.
Conclusion .. aint doing that Mission anymore.
And i still have to figure out how people should be able to make 20 milo an hors doing LV4s ... thats what i make around a whole day. Along with 7800 km3 basic trash.
I've almost lost a raven twice that way, but fortunatly I didn't. One time I got out with like 30% structure and 10-20% armor, the other time I got out with 100% structure and like 15% armor. Other than that I've only lost a sigil that my loot picker uper uses.
I've also lost my willingness to go to 0.0 and I've also lost my will to socialize in game.
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Badshah
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Posted - 2005.03.30 19:35:00 -
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Hopefully not too far off-topic.
Immediately after Exodus was released, I lost a Caracal within seconds of entering a lvl 4 deadspace complex. I realize there is a difference (I guess). I haven't been back since.
Fought my first lvl3 Pirate Extravaganza last night, alone in a Raven. Did very well on that one.
Just me,
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Ruffio Sepico
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Posted - 2005.03.30 19:52:00 -
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One raven, to the level 4 damsel mission. Merc wingman spawned when I was about to warp out. Killed the wingman, but then Zor was on my case and game over 
I always take out Zor first (doing his group last), didnt this time, and well, my mistake....
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juduzz
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Posted - 2005.03.30 19:55:00 -
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Security status damn gurista agent :/
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Threat
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Posted - 2005.03.30 19:57:00 -
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I lost a raven, totally my fault. Warped in at 15 in a non DS mission. Wrong hardeners and by the time I came out of lag shield was more than half gone. By the time I located and locked all the frigs that were scrambling me it was too late.....ship is out of control. So much flashing red...
I have lost alot of armor on numerous missions though and been forced to warp out, fit repairers, repair, refit then reengage.
I typically do my missions totally solo.
Time (alot of it) and torpedos is the rest.
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MutationZ
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Posted - 2005.03.30 20:23:00 -
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Lost a tempest.
Killed an Ammarr hauler (was tired) and the next spawn landed on top of me. Was not aligned as I was in a hurry and picking up cans.
Poof.
My fault, tbh I think the missions are *mostly* risk free unless you have a brain fa rt like I did
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NastyLlama
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Posted - 2005.03.30 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: MutationZ
Lost a tempest.
Killed an Ammarr hauler (was tired) and the next spawn landed on top of me. Was not aligned as I was in a hurry and picking up cans.
Poof.
My fault, tbh I think the missions are *mostly* risk free unless you have a brain fart like I did
Risk free eh
Well I done my first lvl 4 dead space mission, warped in all set to kill any thing, filled my nappy, and ran away in flames crying like a baby with 3% hull left, ill do my next one after I get a 2nd bs as a backup just in case I lose the one I got 
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NastyLlama
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Posted - 2005.03.30 20:40:00 -
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Edited by: NastyLlama on 30/03/2005 20:41:54
Edited by: NastyLlama on 30/03/2005 20:41:21
Originally by: NastyLlama
Originally by: MutationZ
Lost a tempest.
Killed an Ammarr hauler (was tired) and the next spawn landed on top of me. Was not aligned as I was in a hurry and picking up cans.
Poof.
My fault, tbh I think the missions are *mostly* risk free unless you have a brain fart like I did
Risk free eh
Well I done my first lvl 4 dead space mission, warped in all set to kill any thing, filled my nappy, and ran away in flames crying like a baby with 3% hull left, ill do my next one after I get a 2nd bs as a backup just in case I lose the one I got
I'M sure the agent had a lil chuckel as I set off to do the mission
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I'M not a carebear, I'M a total coward, beware of cornerd carebares and cowards, we winge and cry like cornered pirates..........
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La Muerte
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Posted - 2005.03.30 21:23:00 -
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Keep those stories coming....
Haven't lost my apoc since i started this thread
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Obodi
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Posted - 2005.03.30 21:23:00 -
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I've lost two ravens to missions: One to the bonus level in the level 4 Guristas Extravaganza, where all ships go aggro on you at once (and since I had the sound turned off, wasn't aware that I was being scrambled, d'oh!), and one to the 2nd level in the level 4 rogue drone mission, when I was still figuring out how to tank the supremes, and both were in close range.
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NoobSpy
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Posted - 2005.03.30 21:31:00 -
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Edited by: NoobSpy on 30/03/2005 21:31:16
Shuttle
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Cmdr Sy
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Posted - 2005.03.30 21:33:00 -
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Edited by: Cmdr Sy on 30/03/2005 21:35:46
Haven't lost a ship in L4s yet, because I'm never the tank when my corp does them. But I have personally witnessed a couple of corp Apocs die, and been a "witness" on TS when other BS have died, Tempest, Apoc and Raven. It does happen, and every time was in deadspace. Usual cause is not being able to warp out in time either due to missile spam or one last inty rat not dying. I've helped corpmates build replacement ships enough times to know that.
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Amos Sommers
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Posted - 2005.03.30 21:35:00 -
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Iteron Mark V ... in last oh oh ~2 months ?
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sableye
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Posted - 2005.03.30 21:48:00 -
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1 raven to warp align bug
1 raven to my mouse buttons breaking
1 raven to falling asleep in the mission
i think thats it so far, i think I may have lost another raven to a server crash i can't remember.
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Tesol Xarto
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Posted - 2005.03.30 22:25:00 -
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one raven against 8 cruisers, because i watched tv and forgot about that mission
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2005.03.30 22:41:00 -
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I lose my sense of excitement in EVE 
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.03.30 22:57:00 -
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20 apocs !
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2005.03.30 23:00:00 -
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$14.95 a month 
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2005.03.30 23:48:00 -
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I lost a Raven to the bonus stage of Angel Extravaganza, and a Condor to scouting the bonus level of Guristas Extravaganza.
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.03.31 01:39:00 -
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i lost my will to live
does that count?
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Xthril Ranger
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Posted - 2005.03.31 05:46:00 -
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I lost my Raven doing missions at a gate in 0.0 , then 5 Shinra people jumped in and I was a bit slow to turn around and run.
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Citizen Angstrom
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Posted - 2005.03.31 06:44:00 -
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I lost a Raven when level 4 missions were still rather new. Friend of mine lost an Apoc and a BC, then an Apoc doing new level 3 and then 4 missions.
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Xvamir Starwalker
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Posted - 2005.03.31 07:19:00 -
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I've lost nothing but the courage to continue doing level 4. First, they take too long and have an illogic bonus time limit (45 mins to go through 3-4 warp gates and kill a 50 rats). Secondly, when accepting doing those, you just put your ship before the risk. I am not saying about your weakness (sorry to offend but there are people going to level 4 with wrong or no defense (hardeners, repairers ...) and warping at 15 km ) but I am talking about the PvE system of Eve. Just imagine you warp to the rats, aggro them, turn in your offensive/defensive systems then some interceptors closing in, warp scramble you... and suddenly you lose connection or your PC crash (I don't know why but it seems to happen quite often). OK you restart the PC, reconnect, enter the game and look at your pathetic capsule warping away... I've almost lost the ship that way. Hopefully I've turned on the repairer and hardeners... still have 56 % struct left and no more cap. So unless CCP modify the way your ship be when you disconnect or lose connection or even crash, beware of such situation.
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pardux
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Posted - 2005.03.31 08:07:00 -
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 a typhoon. on the damsel mission  stupid support alt was too far away
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Uther Doull
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Posted - 2005.03.31 08:15:00 -
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almost lost an apoc during 1 of the simple missions...
it was a 7 cruiser spawn, and me and my buddies were happily shooting them and i never even looked at my armor or turned on hardners/reps untill i noticed i was at 30% struct...
i then turned on the hardners and reps and warped out, no biggy after i started paying attention again
another time i was doing the supply line mission and after killing 1 spawn 2 bs + loads of cruisers spawned 1km away from me, all peppering me with autocannons, got away from that with 7% struct...
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Hornymatt
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Posted - 2005.03.31 08:16:00 -
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Lost a Tempest when someone in a scrambled and webbed me just as the Mordus bs's spawned (won't make that mistake again )
Less embarassing but significantly more expensive was the recent loss of a raven and four of the arb sieges when Eve froze up on me for 5 minutes mid-mission. Tried everything bar pulling the plug on the machine but nothing would help. Given my feelings when i saw that nly 2 arbs had survived, if it happens again i will pull the plug.
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Shinshi Casoyako
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Posted - 2005.03.31 09:13:00 -
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A friend of mine lost an Apoc, an Apoc and a Raven all in the same mission and all in the pirate extravaganza mission right after lvl 4 missions were introduced.
I lost a raven due to server crash but other than that I havent lost anything to any missions yet (lvl 1 kestrel, lvl 2 caracal, lvl 3 ferox, lvl 4 raven)
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capt
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Posted - 2005.03.31 10:00:00 -
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Tempest, Raven, Scorpion, 2 typhoons.
I can't really say that I lost any of the above mentioned ships because the mission was too difficult or not. I lost them all because of my own stupidity.
One or 2 Bs I lost because I had just warped to a lvl4 mission bookmark and then went to another room to pick up the phone that was ringing.........
The rest of the BS I lost because of watching southpark movies on my other screen or posting on this very forum (posting here can have nasty consequences  ), which isn't always a good idea in the heat of combat........
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XSKULLX
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Posted - 2005.03.31 11:28:00 -
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3 ravens.... 1 cause of the bounce bug, warped in to friend on damsel mission and bounced him 200km away and zor and gang killed me in 10 seconds. 1 to teh 2nd gate on silence the informant, aggroed all of the mercs at once. 1 to serpentis spies right after exodus launch.
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La Muerte
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Posted - 2005.03.31 13:30:00 -
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Keep 'em coming
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Nordmann
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Posted - 2005.03.31 14:04:00 -
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i have done 500 lv 4 mission upward and i dont loose any ship
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Kaboom22
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Posted - 2005.03.31 14:05:00 -
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Touch wood, i haven't lost 1 ship yet to level 4's, although ive warped out my apoc on many occasions on fire...
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Janus Ovellian
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Posted - 2005.03.31 14:08:00 -
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Er... of two missions I've attempted at level 4, I lost one Cyclone after completing the first.
Only finished the second with help from some friends in alliance.
Don't ask me why, but I thought It'd be fun to do in a BC... and it was... until I lost my baby...
/me weeps for his ship...
Hoping to lose a Muninn in the near future... cos you gotta have something to aspire to...
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taylor04
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Posted - 2005.03.31 14:29:00 -
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2 ravens both to ctds, both replaced tho:P
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.03.31 14:40:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 31/03/2005 14:41:18
7 Destroyers and 1 Heavy Drone.
Mostly to those damn merc wingmen respawning. I never see em untill theyve started to scramble my alt And by then my raven needs like 7 and a half years to lock onto them.
Never lost any ships worth money.
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Toran Mehtar
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Posted - 2005.03.31 14:41:00 -
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I've lost... interest.
I've found that the big, challenging lvl 4 missions that I should be excited to get (vengeance etc.) are just too lacking in pace. The challenge was fun when I first started doing them, and I still quite like the smaller missions, but the big ones are just such a grind.
Warp in, turn on tank, turn on lasers...
might aswell be mining (/shudder).
Using my zealot has made things a little more interesting, but it's not really practical for the really big deadspace missions.
I thought one of the points of having deadspace was to make missions more challenging without just making spawns bigger ? I don't see that it has worked out that way.
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2005.03.31 15:04:00 -
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you can make them as boring or as exciting as you want.
if they are boring and slow paced for you, quit using uber range target practice.
lock one ship in each group and light them all up and make it exciting and challenging.
they are only as challenging as one makes them.
you can make them completely risky or you can make them boring slow cannon fodder over range uber range snipe fests where you don't even take a hit.
I myself since release of exodus.
8 Apocs
2 Ravens
1 caracal
3 crusaders
pile of shuttles
and countless close calls and one eyed warp outs, especially in the last 2 weeks
23 mill SP and still loosing ships. Way i see it, if your not loosing ships your not challnging yourself, but to each their own.
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Yzman Shhan
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Posted - 2005.03.31 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Kesh McCall
5 Ravens in the past 14 days ... all to the same Warp allign bug in the same mission, and ofc without refunds.
Conclusion .. aint doing that Mission anymore.
What mission would that be? I lost a tempest the other day too and it didn't feel right. I was aligned directly towards a gate, NOT scrambled and activated warp. The meter showed "warping" but nothing happened.. At the same time i watched my tank beging to fail due to cap draining and just waiting the inevitable while frantically clicking on the warp button in the overview
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Cracken
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Posted - 2005.03.31 17:24:00 -
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a domi too merc wingmen grr.... stupid things can tank 15 heavy drones blasting them.
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Magunus
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Posted - 2005.03.31 17:55:00 -
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Lost a Cerberus last night.
First time I've done a level 4 Sabotage the Pirate convoy or somesuch. I had it tanked for mercs, then the last merc died, and a bunch of guristas showed up. I wasn't hardened enough against kinetic, apparently and died pretty quickly. My fault, though, I've done that mission dozens of times on level 3s and I should have remembered that guristas follow the first wave. Oh well, I made enough money using that ship to pay for the replacement. Which was already sitting in my hangar, thank god.
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BATT
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Posted - 2005.03.31 22:48:00 -
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The only time i lost a Raven doing lvl 4 is when someone else was with me and he aggroed several groups on me..
since i do lvl 4 solo is my moto ..i never lost anything..touching wood now...
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Gairon Fay
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Posted - 2005.04.01 06:40:00 -
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*knocking on that hard piece of wood close by*
Well so far I have managed to stay alive in lvl 4, but there have been some close calls. To be on the safe side I have the little backup awaiting me to be prepared.
Still the real risks are in the Dead Space missions, the regular ones are not that tough, most of the time.
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Amaron Ghant
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Posted - 2005.04.01 10:53:00 -
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Lost an apoc on vengence.
I'd killed everything apart from the turrets on the last level, and was sitting stationary just getting ready to lock them.
I'm out of range and they are not firing. The phone goes. I go off to answer it. 5 or 10 minutes later i come back to find that my ship had decided that it wanted to get closer to the towers, and was now sans shield, armour and about 80% of the hull.
Mad panic to warp out whilst hitting armour repairers. Kaboom, Apoc dead.
Moral of the story. If you have to leave the keyboard, leave the bloody hardeners and repairers running, and point the ship in the direction of safety.
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Uggster
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Posted - 2005.04.01 11:32:00 -
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Sober : 1 Raven 1 day after exodus on the Pirate Extravaganza (all locked me, tried to warp and was told "Ship Stopping", no...tried again and was told "Ship Stopping"..etc.)
Drunk : 3 Scorps and 1 Raven. Came back to my computer in the morning (well..early afternoon, morning for me) and found a pod with me in it an a can or two or simply fumbled with the mouse like a 13 year old schoolboy round the back of a front opening bra and watched the red appear. 
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Ankanos
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Posted - 2005.04.01 11:35:00 -
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a bunch (read *lots*)of BC's and harpys.... i like a challenge, gotta train
for HAC's.. i'm sure that would be alot of fun..and lose less ships :)
if your falling asleep doing them cause your doing them
in the "I WIN" Raven setup.. it's no fault but your own..
i see no reason why one should b**ch and moan that they are so
easy, yada yada... no need to wreck it for those who have an
imagination.. for the rest, leave the friggin raven
in the hangar once in a while and challenge yourself...
currently looking to figure a decent domi setup to try'em in..
smaller ships are more fun tho.. imo..
i think they are just fine the way they are..esp when u bring a
m8 to boost you :)
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Rai Ker
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Posted - 2005.04.01 12:08:00 -
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I almost lost my äuberô Raven with many dread-mods to two blood BSs (and their angel-supporter cruisers and frigs) in 4th(?) level of Angel Extravaganza lvl4 missionà
I just sat there and couldnÆt believe how well theyÆre stripping my ôsuper-tanköà Still couldnÆt believe it while warping out with low armor and almost no cap left
Oh well, I used wrong tactics but I know better now û just donÆt let those mean rats come too close to you
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Slithereen
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Posted - 2005.04.01 12:14:00 -
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Lost a Typhoon and a Retribution on the first day of Exodus. Worst single day of the game. Fortunately, they were both given back about a month later.
Lost a Raven to an L4, a Proph to an L3, a Coercer to an L3, and an Ares to a complex.
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Novo DuPont
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Posted - 2005.04.01 12:56:00 -
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I have been doing lvl 4 agent missions since they were first released in game.
O have lost only 1 Megathron and that was due to a server crash problem and CCP GM's gave me the ship and lost modules back.
SO actually I have lost none really.
AND NO I don't skip any missions, I have done and completed all of the lvl 4 deadspace and normal space ones in either a raven/torps or megathron/425mm rails setups.
"To succeed greatly one must sacrifice greatly"
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Max Hardcase
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Posted - 2005.04.01 17:06:00 -
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Megathron + Apocalypse
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Hera III
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Posted - 2005.04.01 17:58:00 -
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A Zealot assisting corpmate "Friendly" on LVL 4 "Damsel" on the third room. He got aggro'd and since I was firing I got aggro'd too. That thing was a fireball in 5 seconds of firing the first shot. He warped out after seeing my 80m ISK go.. "poof"!
I stuck around and waited patiently in my egg until he could get back and pick up my pricey t2 items that survived my spacing-burp.
Came back in an Geddon outfitted like a logistics ship and pumped-up Friendly's shield and armor, while he blasted away, I didn't fire on anything until all but a couple of baddies were left.
Afterwards on the same night I lost the Geddon to a lvl 3 mission that aggro'd everything, nailed all but three Angel cruisers. Came back in my Apoc to finish them off.
Wierd thing was I just wasn't that upset about the whole thing at the time, now I could kick myself...
I can see the prices for those HAC's are going to go up soon..
btw.. anyone have a logistics ship, are they worth the trouble of buying a 25 mil skill book??
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Fantome
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Posted - 2005.04.02 11:22:00 -
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1 appoc
1 arma
I've done for 850 K lp value of missions.. so i guess not to hight loss. 
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MachZERO
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Posted - 2005.04.02 18:17:00 -
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2 Tempests
2 Ravens
7 Arb Seige Launchers
3 Scout 1400mm (/sniffle)
1 Gist C-type Large Shield booster (/cries)
1 100mn Domination AB
1 DG shield amp (/cries more)
lol
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Hyey
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Posted - 2005.04.02 20:35:00 -
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Edited by: Hyey on 02/04/2005 20:37:41
Umm ive lost about 250k of torps...
besides that not a damn thing... lvl4's are soo boring, ive been into armor exactly twice and never into structure... No npcs ever BREAK my tank, I run out of cap first, and when that happens I warp out before im in serious danger
I have since switched to full 0.0 npcing and havent touched lvl 4's in about 2 weeks... found so many named sieges I think im making about 2/3rds the money I would have doing lvl 4's in the same amount of time. Plus, its simply more fun finding 3x BS spawns and the potential loot rather than just being given the spawn.
Note: Ive also done about 100k LP worth of lvl 4's in an Apoc.. this thing was so easy its also worthless, the NPC's never dropped me below 20% armor and I almost feel aslepe twice, at least in a Raven I cant let the shield booster go off on autorep.
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I just payed 15 dollars this month just to be able to respond on the forums... stupid cancellation error.
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