How about we just spam convo one of the dev's, then you will see the lag it causes.

I never have any issues with lag, went on 150+ man roam, bashed a pos until the enemy cyno'd in while running anoms with my other character and at no time did my computer lag, I only have 30Mb internet service, though I do have a great computer. Seems to me that most of the issues are client related which means either A, lower your settings. Or B. Get a new computer.

I never have any issues with lag, went on 150+ man roam, bashed a pos until the enemy cyno'd in while running anoms with my other character and at no time did my computer lag, I only have 30Mb internet service, though I do have a great computer. Seems to me that most of the issues are client related which means either A, lower your settings. Or B. Get a new computer.

No, declaring something an exploit requires verifiable proof that can be reproduced. We do not warn and ban people on a hunch or because someone promises that they are telling the truth.

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This decision is bad and the GM team should feel bad about taking it. One needs to be able to get convos from scouts, fcs, spies, etc. during a fleet. What you are suggesting is a work-around. I know another work-around for this problem. Don't play EvE.

As posted earlier in the thread, the claim that it produces significant lag is still under investigation. Right now it is not allowed because it is spam, just like repeatedly EVE mailing someone is spam and not allowed.

I'm tired of this political crap CCP thinks will solve its problems while it tries to fix a broken mechanic.

What part of requesting a /and/ opening a conversation is considered a game mechanic?

Um, all of it?

Customer support is making this post to clarify a specific type of case and our policies regarding that type of case. Recently we have seen a rise in reimbursement requests on the grounds of a conversation spam exploit.

Is this an exploit? No, it is not an exploit and we will not be reimbursing any losses on the grounds of conversation spam.

To clarify this point, this used to be an exploit, but the conditions that caused it to be an exploit were fixed a while ago. In the past a conversation request would generate a popup that would take focus within the game client and would not let you continue to play until you made a decision on the request. However, currently the popup will not lock you out of the rest of the game and it will not grab focus. You can ignore the request and keep playing the game. There is also an option to automatically decline any conversation requests sent your way.

Posters with speculative accusations with no basis in reality and an inability to follow basic logic... please go.

Thanks for completely ignoring the majority of my post and instead write a canned response. We have GM responses which say very clearly that this is an exploit and ships have already been reimbursed because of it.

I highly suggest the GM team actually sit down, grab a coffee and speak to each other about this instead of sending all sorts of mixed messages and responses.

In dealing with the WV- incident, CCP GMs have given VERY different responses to what has been posted here.

I'm tired of this political crap CCP thinks will solve its problems while it tries to fix a broken mechanic.

This is simply wrong. None of the people who were convo-spammed, were able to activate or deactivate any modules or to click into space or overview to align into the force field. BTW: even with auto-reject set to on, the requests reach the client and at least cause lag. Technically, this is a DDoS attack on a player's client.

The spammers have been warned by GM Bunyip for exploit usage (as everyone can read on evenews24, October 11th) and one of the carrier pilots (a member of my corp) has been reimbursed by Senior GM Nova - although he refuses to reimburse the other pilots who died in exactly the same way. So who is right now? You or them?

It is not allowed because it is spam. However, no one should lose a ship specifically because of this. In a fleet fight you should simply have auto-reject enabled. Even if you have not, you will receive 1 popup that does not grab focus and does not prevent you from controlling your client normally. Simply ignore it.

TLDR....
CFC cry to ccp about loosing ships to one of their very own tactics..
CCP say HTFU
CFC cry more

LOL!

This has been discussed and the GMs in question made a mistake. They were acting on out of date knowledge. Mistakes happen and GMs are not perfect. This is also the point where I have to remind people that you are not allowed to share GM responses as that is considered to be a private communication between CCP and that individual. We always try to be lenient, but if this sort of thing starts to cause undue unrest we may end up having to enforce those rules.

This is also the point where I have to remind people that you are not allowed to share GM responses as that is considered to be a private communication between CCP and that individual. We always try to be lenient, but if this sort of thing starts to cause undue unrest we may end up having to enforce those rules.