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Arduemont
Lords 0f Justice
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2012.10.25 12:22:00 -
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By Forums, I mean, all forums. Not just the Eve forum. Broken is probably an exaggeration, but what I mean by this is that they're not fulfilling their intended function properly. These forums should be here to get an idea of what their whole player-base thinks about their game. At the moment the forums only show CCP what a very small minority of the forum users think.
What is happening, is that someone with no sense of how the game works posts something about how terrible Eve is and then everyone berates them for it. In turn making sure their thread stays at the top of the forum subsection and therefore making it one of the most read and discussed topics.
So what I'm basically saying is that half decent ideas or topics dont get any discussion and the terrible threads end up at the top. Where-by CCP only get to follow those terrible topics.
Instead of every post in a discussion shooting that thread right up to the top of the page, each post should raise it up by one place. And we should have a "Do Not Want!" button that will lower it by one place.
This isn't exactly a fully fledged idea, its just a concept. CCP needs a function within the forum to keep good, well thought through threads up the top of the forum pages where they can be seen and better discussed instead of all the crap that's there now. |
Hazen Koraka
HK Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.10.25 12:24:00 -
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More power to the trolls? They will just keep mashing the DO NOT WANT button? Uh... No. |
Arduemont
Lords 0f Justice
Fidelas Constans
513
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Posted - 2012.10.25 12:26:00 -
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Hazen Koraka wrote:More power to the trolls? They will just keep mashing the DO NOT WANT button? Uh... No.
I said it wasn't a full fledged idea. It's just a concept, otherwise this would be in the Features and Ideas section. I am saying that we need some method of keeping **** threads that nobody wants there, away from the top of the forum. |
Hazen Koraka
HK Enterprises
53
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Posted - 2012.10.25 12:28:00 -
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I guess, but there's always the bump tactic to move a thread to the first screen or so. I don't like having to do it, but for certain sub-forums e.g. Bugs/Workarounds, they seem to be so infrequently commented on or read, that I have to do this sometimes. |
svenska flicka
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.10.25 12:29:00 -
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Love the concept, but you then give forum control to the CFC.... oh wait, now I get it lol |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
952
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Posted - 2012.10.25 12:29:00 -
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So you are basically saying that all EVE-O Forum Posters all suck and CCP should exercise some kind of Mind Control over the player base to make sure all posts conform to standard.
That's really a rather large troll attempt. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
5324
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Posted - 2012.10.25 12:29:00 -
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Or maybe as a part of owning an account, you are forced to make one sensible post per month... or well maybe not.
Isn't this how forums in general work though? If something isn't discussed it gets forgotten and lands way back. While active stuff gets more exposure (regardless of it being terribad or not)?
Other options is also to sort by good/bad rating... if we could do that (and ourselves chose how to sort, not global sorting).
/c
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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1950
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Posted - 2012.10.25 12:29:00 -
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Oh look, a professional forum designer !
Let's revolutionize the internet and change how forums work, everywhere !
Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
121
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Posted - 2012.10.25 12:30:00 -
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Forums do not reflect the majorities and minorities of opinions and mindsets of a community. Period.
Since a small group of forum dudes can claim to be the majority, sure it is dangerous to listen to a handful of ppl who are able to start various threads about a topic which then looks like many people would actually care and demand a change etc.
Liquid feedback ftw. |
Alice Saki
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Posted - 2012.10.25 12:31:00 -
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Wait! It's not about getting the most Likes?
Oh gawd have I wasted my time? xD
Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused.
I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
3198
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Posted - 2012.10.25 12:31:00 -
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I first want my "dislike" button
"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Arduemont
Lords 0f Justice
Fidelas Constans
513
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Posted - 2012.10.25 12:32:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:So you are basically saying that all EVE-O Forum Posters all suck and CCP should exercise some kind of Mind Control over the player base to make sure all posts conform to standard.
Not CCP, the players should have better control to show popular opinion. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
952
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Posted - 2012.10.25 12:39:00 -
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Your plan would be as easy as hearding cats.
That's like trying to control the 'quality' of classified ads in a newspaper.
Will never happen.
You are asking for a change in the basic structure of human communication in place for......how many millions of years?
This Thread will eventually drop to the bottom like all threads: good, bad, and irrelevant |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1952
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Posted - 2012.10.25 12:45:00 -
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This may even be some sort of meta trolling,
because he damn well knows that this thread will get bumped to the top
every time somebody posts into it ...
... i see what you did there !
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
798
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Posted - 2012.10.25 12:46:00 -
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The avatar threads are annoying, but it seems like extremes you are using to deal with them.
I'm not shitposting. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1405
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Posted - 2012.10.25 13:31:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:
So what I'm basically saying is that half decent ideas or topics dont get any discussion and the terrible threads end up at the top. Where-by CCP only get to follow those terrible topics.
What, CCP is incapable of looking at page 2 or scrolling down?
Quote:Example: Instead of every post in a discussion shooting that thread right up to the top of the page, each post could raise it up by one place. And we could have a "Do Not Want!" button that will lower it by one place. You're still leaving the thread's position manipulation up to the forum users. But I like this one. I know several OPs that could use a lot of negative bumping.
Quote:This isn't exactly a fully fledged idea, its just a concept. CCP needs a function within the forum to keep good, well thought through threads up the top of the forum pages where they can be seen and better discussed instead of all the crap that's there now. For the time being we just need some recognition that this is a problem.
They have this function. It's called "sticky" and CCP uses it. :)
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
The Djentleman Paulson
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
75
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Posted - 2012.10.25 15:47:00 -
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MY FORUMS ARE BORKN TO |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2012.10.25 15:52:00 -
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Broken thread title. Forums work fine. Trolls are in perfect working order as well.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Needmore Longcat
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2012.10.25 16:00:00 -
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The Djentleman Paulson wrote:MY FORUMS ARE BORKN TO
OH GOD WAT DO |
Zimmy Zeta
Paramount Commerce
2409
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Posted - 2012.10.25 16:02:00 -
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Chribba wrote:
Other options is also to sort by good/bad rating... if we could do that (and ourselves chose how to sort, not global sorting).
/c
You know, you could just create an EvE-subreddit on reddit.
Oh wait..there is already one.
Wait some more....there are even 4 right now...
For best results and enhanced forum experience, please read my posts in Snooki's voice |
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Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks
Executive Outcomes
271
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Posted - 2012.10.25 16:10:00 -
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I too wish EVE-O forums were more like Reddit, so we have cultural and intelligent debates like Reddit. For example:
- Made myself a coffee table, what do you think?
- I just bought more than 1 million GǪFacebook data entries for 5$. Oh, this is not the end of the story. I veGÇÖgot a phone call from Facebook GÇ£Policy department.
- Wallpaper in my boyfriends kitchen. When you see it...
- I(f) this gets a good response, ill post a ***** picture. (;
Long live upvote systems!
"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Zimmy Zeta
Paramount Commerce
2414
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Posted - 2012.10.25 16:16:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
I too wish EVE-O forums were more like Reddit, so we have cultural and intelligent debates like Reddit. For example:
- Made myself a coffee table, what do you think?
- I just bought more than 1 million GǪFacebook data entries for 5$. Oh, this is not the end of the story. I veGÇÖgot a phone call from Facebook GÇ£Policy department.
- Wallpaper in my boyfriends kitchen. When you see it...
- I(f) this gets a good response, ill post a ***** picture. (;
Long live upvote systems!
yeah..actually, what I wanted to say (but apparently failed to make clear) is:
"Don't turn Eve-O forums into Reddit."
For best results and enhanced forum experience, please read my posts in Snooki's voice |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
404
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Posted - 2012.10.25 16:29:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:
(snip)
What is happening, is that someone with no sense of how the game works posts something about how terrible Eve is and then everyone berates them for it.
(snip)
I disagree. What is more often happening is that people whom are VERY very knowlegeable about many of Eve's finer points & actually like Eve come here to point out its weaker points. Its the nature of almost all internet forums to come over as negitive much in the same way that news broadcasts show more train wrecks which leave a bigger impression then the warm puppy stories due to ratings.
Also the forums have become poloitical soapbox to lobby the DEVs to force thier part of the sanbox onto everyone else:
Meta-gaming for NULL SECCers: Whine on the forums like a little ***** until CCP gets sick of you and hands you everything you ask for just to shut you up. |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Disturbed Acquaintance
109
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:50:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:I first want my "dislike" button
A good idea/post could have many likes
A crappy idea/post could have many dislikes
and if you can only like OR dislike once per thread, its not much of an issue. (alt accounts already taken into account)
yes theres a minority who would 'dislike' every post, but with only 1 clicky they arent going to make that much impact.
The Dislike Button is VITAL, make it happen nao ccp's |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
953
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Posted - 2012.10.25 18:05:00 -
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It would be too easy for the 'Dislikes' to be hi-jacked, en masse, on what could be an otherwise important issue.
That's one of the pitfalls of the democratic process such as this. Folks interpret it to mean that their Ignorance is just as important, and is as equal to, your Knowledge.
It unfortunately requires shuffling through the good and the bad.
Any kind of filtering, especially publicly, is highly suspect, as it should be. |
Arduemont
Lords 0f Justice
Fidelas Constans
519
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Posted - 2012.10.25 21:20:00 -
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The "Dislike" button has always been a popular idea and it would certainly be a step in the right direction.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
953
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Posted - 2012.10.26 01:08:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:The "Dislike" button has always been a popular idea and it would certainly be a step in the right direction.
And why is that ? Why is it a good idea ? |
Shederov Blood
Wrecketeers
118
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Posted - 2012.10.26 01:46:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Arduemont wrote:The "Dislike" button has always been a popular idea and it would certainly be a step in the right direction.
And why is that ? Why is it a good idea ? Because "likes" are overpowered. There is no counter to them.  |
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
492
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Posted - 2012.10.26 01:49:00 -
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I came here expecting a good post by Arguemost
Damn, my eyes aren't what they used to be...
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
492
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Posted - 2012.10.26 01:50:00 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Arduemont wrote:The "Dislike" button has always been a popular idea and it would certainly be a step in the right direction.
And why is that ? Why is it a good idea ? Because "likes" are overpowered. There is no counter to them.
+1 +-1 =0.
I liked and then UNLIKED..... Take THAT!!!
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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