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Salpun
Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2012.11.02 05:58:00 -
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Aglais wrote:And then absolutely nothing in space or the login screen rendered.
Is this known to be an issue yet? I bug reported already. Until we get a new client build we are out of luck.
Edit:
For those lucky few that are on.
What has changed? |
Commander Whitford
Caldari Corporate Killers
1
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Posted - 2012.11.02 10:36:00 -
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Salpun wrote:Aglais wrote:And then absolutely nothing in space or the login screen rendered.
Is this known to be an issue yet? I bug reported already. Until we get a new client build we are out of luck. Edit: For those lucky few that are on. What has changed?
Nope. I logged on to an account that's active on Duality, and all I see is empty space. I tried docking and I just get a picture of empty space. None of the ship previews are working for me either.
I wish I had re-activated my account days ago, it seems I missed all the juicy stuff. ^^ |
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CCP Habakuk
C C P C C P Alliance
310
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Posted - 2012.11.02 11:06:00 -
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Yeah, the current client on Duality is pretty broken. We are closing the server till we get a better client. CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Gridlock Writing bug reports | Mass tests
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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
283
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Posted - 2012.11.02 11:09:00 -
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CCP Habakuk wrote:Yeah, the current client on Duality is pretty broken. We are closing the server till we get a better client. Bad Paradox, Bad! ;)
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CCP Habakuk
C C P C C P Alliance
310
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Posted - 2012.11.02 18:49:00 -
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CCP Habakuk wrote:Yeah, the current client on Duality is pretty broken. We are closing the server till we get a better client.
Duality will stay closed for the weekend, as next client build is also broken. More updates on Monday. CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Gridlock Writing bug reports | Mass tests
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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
389
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Posted - 2012.11.02 20:36:00 -
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CCP Habakuk wrote:CCP Habakuk wrote:Yeah, the current client on Duality is pretty broken. We are closing the server till we get a better client. Duality will stay closed for the weekend, as next client build is also broken. More updates on Monday.
So let me get this straight....
First build on Duality had huge holes in it. 2nd build, which is the current one, is "pretty broken". And the 3rd build, which appears to have been tested in-house, is "also broken".
And you guys expect to go live in 32 days.......
I am just re-reading CCP Goliath's comments to me in another thread and am smiling, actually giggling.
I will say it again, there are way way too many moving parts as Retribution is designed today. These are the things that I can think of off the top of my head:
1. New NPC AI, or rather some port of the Sleeper/Incursion AI. 2. Another overhaul of FW. 3. Crimewatch 4. Bounties 5, New HUD. 6. 40 plus hull overhauls 7. Some little thing called Dust???
Please, please, slow down. Don't try to implement all this at once. Surprisingly, people are likely more forgiving if you say "hey, we bit off more than we can chew", as opposed to releasing code with untested, potentially disastrous combinations |
Sobic
Sturmgrenadier Inc Nulli Secunda
17
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Posted - 2012.11.02 22:12:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:CCP Habakuk wrote:CCP Habakuk wrote:Yeah, the current client on Duality is pretty broken. We are closing the server till we get a better client. Duality will stay closed for the weekend, as next client build is also broken. More updates on Monday. So let me get this straight.... First build on Duality had huge holes in it. 2nd build, which is the current one, is "pretty broken". And the 3rd build, which appears to have been tested in-house, is "also broken". And you guys expect to go live in 32 days....... I am just re-reading CCP Goliath's comments to me in another thread and am smiling, actually giggling. I will say it again, there are way way too many moving parts as Retribution is designed today. These are the things that I can think of off the top of my head: 1. New NPC AI, or rather some port of the Sleeper/Incursion AI. 2. Another overhaul of FW. 3. Crimewatch 4. Bounties 5, New HUD. 6. 40 plus hull overhauls 7. Some little thing called Dust??? Please, please, slow down. Don't try to implement all this at once. Surprisingly, people are likely more forgiving if you say "hey, we bit off more than we can chew", as opposed to releasing code with untested, potentially disastrous combinations
You have no specific facts, based on any kind of reality, to draw the conclusions you are. Except that Duality is buggy and you're demonstrating the typical modern day prophesying from afar attitude of internet know it alls.
Now how bout something more specific and constructive Dinsipoo. |
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CCP Habakuk
C C P C C P Alliance
312
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Posted - 2012.11.05 16:22:00 -
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Duality is open again for the next days.
Known issues: * The inventory window is broken for ships with ship maintenance bays. * Belt NPCs are on strike and refrain from attacking players. CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Gridlock Writing bug reports | Mass tests
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Aglais
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
154
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Posted - 2012.11.05 18:12:00 -
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It seems that the little blinking lights on the Maller have opted to stop being a fitting yellow shade for Amarr, and instead a garish, ghastly Gallente green.
My world is flying apart as we speak. |
Oberine Noriepa
1031
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Posted - 2012.11.06 06:52:00 -
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Other hulls are featuring the green color on their antennae as well. |
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YuuKnow
Inner 5phere
425
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Posted - 2012.11.06 08:41:00 -
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Love the new Megathron model btw |
Salpun
Paramount Commerce
412
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Posted - 2012.11.06 19:11:00 -
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The NPC at the acadamy are locking new characters and yellow boxing them is this intential? |
Blue Harrier
129
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Posted - 2012.11.06 21:13:00 -
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Things I have found so far;
'Reload All' is still not working for missiles
I have my GÇÿitemsGÇÖ and GÇÿshipsGÇÖ merged with the GÇÿstation servicesGÇÖ panel, in the GÇÿitemsGÇÖ window I keep all my GÇÿstuffGÇÖ in containers. Double clicking or shift clicking a container fails to open it the only way to open a container is by using GÇÿright clickGÇÖ, select and click GÇÿOpen ContainerGÇÖ However if I open the inventory window from the Neocom I can open any container by dragging and dropping it, shift clicking, double clicking etc.
As before IGÇÖm sorry but I still donGÇÖt like the new warp sound it really does need the GÇÿspeed up whoosh to sonic boomGÇÖ the same as TQ now.
Also there seems to be a change made to the gate jump sound, on my system (5.1 surround sound, via on-motherboard chipset), the sound has a hollow, drainpipe sound and has a noticeable GÇÿnoise burstGÇÖ as the jump completes. This sound like some others still cause a substantial FPS drop (60 fps to 17 fps) when the sound starts and during the sound duration when the sound changes.
After a 1.5 Gig download (update from TQ client to Duality), I really expected a better experience than I got, I think my old teachers would have written in my report book, GÇÿwell done but must try harderGÇÖ .
"You wait - time passes, Thorin sits down and starts singing about gold." from The Hobbit on ZX Spectrum 1982. |
JessiJames
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.11.06 21:58:00 -
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any idea when the MJD is back on some testserver ? Thanks |
Salpun
Paramount Commerce
413
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Posted - 2012.11.06 22:06:00 -
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JessiJames wrote: any idea when the MJD is back on some testserver ? Thanks
It should be on there PM on duality and I will pass you the links needed. Market search is still broke. I just purchased one.
Sent you the links on Duality. |
JessiJames
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.11.06 23:59:00 -
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Salpun wrote:JessiJames wrote: any idea when the MJD is back on some testserver ? Thanks
It should be on there PM on duality and I will pass you the links needed. Market search is still broke. I just purchased one. Sent you the links on Duality.
You are awesome.
Seems they are only on mkt in 6-CZ49, movedme and got them :) |
wolfslo
Deadly Influence ZADA ALLIANCE
0
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Posted - 2012.11.07 08:55:00 -
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This is just great, you put up the server for a limited time, then don't reactivate the accounts so we can't even go on... clap clap |
Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
495
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Posted - 2012.11.07 19:22:00 -
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Really no idea what this testing period is supposed to be for. Perhaps I missed it, but I don't see any updates from the devs saying they actually implemented new code. Perhaps it was just new ships, or things I've simply missed, but it would be nice to have a simple changelog from CCP telling us what changed.
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Salpun
Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2012.11.07 19:40:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:Really no idea what this testing period is supposed to be for. Perhaps I missed it, but I don't see any updates from the devs saying they actually implemented new code. Perhaps it was just new ships, or things I've simply missed, but it would be nice to have a simple changelog from CCP telling us what changed.
Its a stable build with minor changes from the first build. Stuff like target icon changes what gets what type of icon and when and some ship balancing tweaks. Getting CCP to produce a change log wont happen. Asking devs on duality what changed some times gets a response. Next build should have the next batch of big changes.
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Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
495
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Posted - 2012.11.07 23:51:00 -
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Salpun wrote:Rengerel en Distel wrote:Really no idea what this testing period is supposed to be for. Perhaps I missed it, but I don't see any updates from the devs saying they actually implemented new code. Perhaps it was just new ships, or things I've simply missed, but it would be nice to have a simple changelog from CCP telling us what changed.
Its a stable build with minor changes from the first build. Stuff like target icon changes what gets what type of icon and when and some ship balancing tweaks. Getting CCP to produce a change log wont happen. Asking devs on duality what changed some times gets a response. Next build should have the next batch of big changes. Yes, I realize they won't do it, as Goliath has said it's a waste of his time to inform the testing public what it is they are supposed to test. I've tested on many games, as I'm sure others have, and never had so many obstacles to testing placed in the way. Other games seem to go out of their way to make testing almost enjoyable, but the harsh cold EVE has to make even testing a grief filled environment.
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WO CHUBINK
SOLUS EVOLUTION CORP Intrepid Crossing
0
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Posted - 2012.11.08 00:00:00 -
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I had herd of some changes coming to drone lands. is this still going to happen and if so what changes are being made?
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The VC's
Spack Force 5
72
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Posted - 2012.11.08 01:53:00 -
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Any chance of getting the new destroyers seeded in PVH8
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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
393
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Posted - 2012.11.08 05:45:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:Salpun wrote:Rengerel en Distel wrote:Really no idea what this testing period is supposed to be for. Perhaps I missed it, but I don't see any updates from the devs saying they actually implemented new code. Perhaps it was just new ships, or things I've simply missed, but it would be nice to have a simple changelog from CCP telling us what changed.
Its a stable build with minor changes from the first build. Stuff like target icon changes what gets what type of icon and when and some ship balancing tweaks. Getting CCP to produce a change log wont happen. Asking devs on duality what changed some times gets a response. Next build should have the next batch of big changes. Yes, I realize they won't do it, as Goliath has said it's a waste of his time to inform the testing public what it is they are supposed to test. I've tested on many games, as I'm sure others have, and never had so many obstacles to testing placed in the way. Other games seem to go out of their way to make testing almost enjoyable, but the harsh cold EVE has to make even testing a grief filled environment.
I have had a revelation regarding CCP, their dev's, and the quality of their work. Granted, many others have already recognized the truth of the matter, and I am obviously more than a little slow grasping the concept.
Iceland is an extremely small country, with a population that rivals only that of many medium size cities in Asia, Africa, Europe, South and North America. A few years ago that "powers that be" in Iceland decided to gamble heavily on international banking as major industry in Iceland. As Douglas Adams wrote in one of his books, this would be considered a "bad move". When the U.S. banks failed, given the size of the Icelandic economy, this lead to a domino effect that did hugely disproportionate damage to Icelandic economy. The results were catastrophic to Iceland. To this day, the Krona is a badly devalued currency.
One of the sad results of that devalued currency is that companies will have a hard time recruiting international talent, whatever the industry, to emigrate to Iceland to work if they get paid in Krona. Given the small size of Iceland, CCP is very hard-pressed to fill their employment needs with strictly Icelandic talent.
So given the low rate of pay that CCP can provide on an international scale when you compare the Krona to other currencies you are left with the axiom of "you get what you pay for". Sometimes, great drinking parties on the days you release a Duality build is not just good enough of attraction for good software development talent.
But of course, I could be all wrong, and superb salmon fishing within the city limits of Reykjav+¡k and beautiful blondes are all you need to attract excellent software developers and management. |
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CCP Paradox
571
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Posted - 2012.11.08 09:49:00 -
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Interesting discussion. I get the impression that without some direction you are feeling undervalued as testers on the server. (This is far from correct) We could over a drink at Fanfest perhaps, or maybe Goliath or myself should write a dev blog. Food for thought.
Anyway, the fact is that Duality has been getting builds of our code much earlier than we previously have done. So you guys have had much more volatile changes at your hands. The Test Servers will be changing shortly, as we are now Staging our build into what we call HELENE. This is the targeted build for the EVE Expansion Retribution. Once we have the HELENE build onto a test server, we will then be exploring much further into the mass tests, and the more familiar testing you might be used to.
Additionally, Salpun. Teams are responsible for giving CCP Goliath changes to work with when the server gets updated. If you saw my post for my team, https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=166409 you will know that we delivered a good amount of details to you guys to test. CCP Paradox | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Super Friends @CCP_Paradox |
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Salpun
Paramount Commerce
414
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Posted - 2012.11.08 13:39:00 -
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CCP Paradox wrote:Interesting discussion. I get the impression that without some direction you are feeling undervalued as testers on the server. (This is far from correct) We could over a drink at Fanfest perhaps, or maybe Goliath or myself should write a dev blog. Food for thought. Anyway, the fact is that Duality has been getting builds of our code much earlier than we previously have done. So you guys have had much more volatile changes at your hands. The Test Servers will be changing shortly, as we are now Staging our build into what we call HELENE. This is the targeted build for the EVE Expansion Retribution. Once we have the HELENE build onto a test server, we will then be exploring much further into the mass tests, and the more familiar testing you might be used to. Additionally, Salpun. Teams are responsible for giving CCP Goliath changes to work with when the server gets updated. If you saw my post for my team, https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=166409 you will know that we delivered a good amount of details to you guys to test. Thanks for the update.
I was responding to his build to build question. Bug fixes and stuff. The only team that has posted any major changes from the first Duality testing period build was the fleet hanger team and those changes did not get implemented in this build and where not linked in the OP
Another round of this is the state of our projects would be appreciated from the teams when you deploy the first Helene build.
The fact we went thru some builds that would not work only clouded the issue for those wanting to test.
Thanks for the hard work.
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Mund Richard
7
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Posted - 2012.11.08 14:11:00 -
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CCP Paradox wrote:Interesting discussion. I get the impression that without some direction you are feeling undervalued as testers on the server. No, really?
Anyways, thanks for dropping by and for the rest of the post, had interesting stuff in it.
Sarcasm can be like drugs. |
Salpun
Paramount Commerce
414
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Posted - 2012.11.08 14:16:00 -
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New build to test is live on Buckingham. with a new feed back thread. Duality will probably go down at down time and not be open again until it is need again. |
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CCP Habakuk
C C P C C P Alliance
313
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Posted - 2012.11.08 14:29:00 -
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Salpun wrote:New build to test is live on Buckingham. with a new feed back thread. Duality will probably go down at down time and not be open again until it is need again.
What Salpun wrote
New feedback thread! CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Gridlock Writing bug reports | Mass tests
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Kenshi Hanshin
BloodLust Enterprises Apocalypse Now.
8
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Posted - 2012.11.12 02:48:00 -
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CCP Habakuk wrote:Salpun wrote:New build to test is live on Buckingham. with a new feed back thread. Duality will probably go down at down time and not be open again until it is need again. What Salpun wrote New feedback thread! I am having trouble connecting to the Buckingham server. Is the information on the Evelopedia page correct? Or does it need to be updated? Thanks! |
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