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Beachura
Templar Corps Rogue Trader Alliance
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Posted - 2012.10.27 14:32:00 -
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Hi guys, another controversial thread from your very own Beachura.
Today we are discussing Against All Authorities. Very recently I left an -A- renter corporation, to begin with I posted here defending -A- stating that that seemed an 'okay bunch of guys'. I know that the eve online community has quite a dim opinion in general of this alliance, but I saw nothing wrong with the tactics of triple A fleeing to NPC space when faced with a large and unbeatable enemy alliance.
Then, whilst spending my time in No Value alliance, I witnessed just the barbaric nature of an alliance that is only comparable to the government of a third world nation.
Firstly, from another thread in CAOD
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Doesn't matter anyway the whole of the south will burn and only -A- will remain.
That's not an attitude to have towards your allies and renters, at least take them with you to NPC. The issue here is that triple A not only blueballs, which by itself seems a viable tactic but that they then reset most allies without warning and flesh out their killboards with unsuspecting pilot kills whilst running for the hills. Even though the community holds -A- in a bad light, I figured it would be best to try them out, innocent until proven guilty after all right?
The problem is that the community actually aren't wrong, -A- do abandon all of their allies without inviting them to NPC space with them, they do lie and scheme and attempt to cover it up like some third world government and they do live up to the nasty callous reputation to which they have earned.
There is nothing wrong with blueballing enemies and fleeing to NPC space, but there is a huge issue with resetting allies and renters without notice and not inviting them to join you in your new NPC home providing new targets to flesh your killboards whilst you flee to NPC
I'm sure you don't care triple A, but you are nothing more than barbarians. I would suggest that even though it is very undesirable space that a large block alliance moves into catch and holds it for a year or two, Against All Morals would be forced to live permanently in NPC space, rather than to retake the region when the chest beating test up and leave.
I'm dissapointed, I expected to be proved wrong and to be treated well in a renter alliance. |
Vanir Tsero
Critical Mass Inc. Nexus Fleet
67
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Posted - 2012.10.27 14:57:00 -
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I can confirm this, being a part of the Imperial 0rder fiasco a year or so ago. -A- have never been a supportive alliance to their allies, and I doubt that ideology will change.
It will be -A- that burns as they are unable to evolve into what Nullsec has become. A grander stage for Coalitions to duke it out with 600 man fleets.
I salute and wish all the ex-allies of -A- the best of luck in your relocation.
On a side note. There are a lot of alliances out there that do uphold their dedication and loyalty to their friends. Take a few minutes out of your day to investigate these larger coalitions and send your Diplomats out. |
Xorth Adimus
Blackwater USA Inc. Against ALL Authorities
27
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Posted - 2012.10.27 15:47:00 -
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Remind me never to post in COAD again..
-A- and friends didn't start this fire.
This to us is just they usual annual invasion of the massive coalition blob that tries to burn the south and then dies horribly in their own fire after months of war.
Dropping SBUs on a system you don't own, this is basicly an act of war, isn't this a really really basic thing?
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Bastion Hoyt
Space Cowboys United Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
0
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Posted - 2012.10.27 16:27:00 -
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We came down here peacefully. The people that were blue to us we did not fire on them! The Newts here we talked to, some of them became blues. Other Newts we did some pew pew with, but all in good sport, we told them to please come back! Our dippos attempted to contact Cascade Imminent with no response, I personally scouted the the area for over a week with ZERO Cascade Imminent members seen. If they were here and active we would have not started dropping SBU's. |
Beachura
Templar Corps Rogue Trader Alliance
43
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Posted - 2012.10.27 16:34:00 -
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Xorth Adimus wrote:Remind me never to post in COAD again..
-A- and friends didn't start this fire.
This to us is just they usual annual invasion of the massive coalition blob that tries to burn the south and then dies horribly in their own fire after months of war.
Dropping SBUs on a system you don't own, this is basicly an act of war, isn't this a really really basic thing?
This seems fair, dropping SBU's in a system you don't own is indeed wrong. However this post isn't about that issue, I appreciate that this is an isolated incident but there are many more corporations and alliances left unhappy by there treatment by Against All Authorities. |
Bastion Hoyt
Space Cowboys United Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
0
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Posted - 2012.10.27 18:30:00 -
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They did the same thing to us back in May of 2011. We were loosing members so -A- gave the order to SBU our system. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
732
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Posted - 2012.10.27 22:20:00 -
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-A- betraying allies whenever things get difficult? I simply refuse to believe this event. |
Alphea Abbra
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
64
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Posted - 2012.10.27 23:44:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:-A- betraying allies whenever things get difficult? I simply refuse to believe this event. I, too, am questioning the validity of the current portrait of AAA actions we're shown in here. In my experience, AAA has been nothing but honest, supportive and good natured. This talk about AAA betraying allies or mistreating other groups by submitting them to humiliation is not something I can recognise. Until definitive evidence is brought forth, I refuse to acknowledge these nefarious claims about e-honourable AAA!
I think the posters ledging this unprovoced libel should look at themselves first, they must have some sort of problem if they can't see that AAA is eternally good and stand against the most evil and oppressive empire of evil ever created! The evil blo--- nah, who am I kidding?
AAA, good riddance. |
Red Teufel
Blackened Skies Nulli Secunda
83
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Posted - 2012.10.28 00:49:00 -
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bye bye -A- |
Cabal Prime
Space Cowboys United Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
0
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Posted - 2012.10.28 01:03:00 -
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Alphea Abbra, I'm fairly new to the game. I've been playing since late January or early February. A few months back, SCU joined up with **** and moved down to one of the 2 systems that **** owned while filling contracts for AAA for fuel and other things. When AAA started losing their systems in the area, we first were going to move to LGK as we were told by AAA leadership. Then, our leaders saw that Cascade Imminent was failing and hemorrhaging members and corps. So, our leaders sent an expedition to Cascade space and found a couple of nice systems. It was decided to see about taking those over as Cascade Imminent no longer seemed to be active. For weeks, we had people in those two systems and the surrounding Cascade Imminent systems hoping to find someone there to tell us that they were active. Suddenly, after about 2 or 3 days of us hitting the systems, a member of AAA ORDERED our people there to take down the SBUs and was referred to a specific **** leader: Jaydn Remko as he handles diplo. The sad part is less than 24 hours later, we were reset from blue with AAA to red and a AAA alt in Cascade Imminent kicked us out of all of Cascade Imminent stations. The sad part is that we have always been quite reasonable in our dealings with AAA. They are the ones that failed to let us know what they were planning until AFTER we had already invested time, ships, and equipment in taking those two systems. And, instead of maintaining our former level of relations where we helped them with fuel, other contracts, and combat, while we maintained 2 systems in AAA space; they are more interested in taking two systems by force than in friendship. That is what makes this such a backstabbing move by them. We did not know about the ties to Cascade Imminent until they ORDERED us to stop what we were doing as they never let anyone else know what their plans were. |
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Bastion Hoyt
Space Cowboys United Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
0
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Posted - 2012.10.28 02:38:00 -
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Cobal, I think she was making a joke. |
usrevenge
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.10.28 05:28:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:-A- betraying allies whenever things get difficult? I simply refuse to believe this event.
step 1 declare commitment to friendly force step 2 use numbaz to attack smaller enemy fleets to make killboards green step 3 run when enemy decides to get numbers of their own step 4 announce you are pulling out of the region and letting allies burn |
Xolve
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
1188
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Posted - 2012.10.28 09:17:00 -
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It's only a matter of time until someone, anyone, gives -A- space again, just to watch this comedy unfold once more. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
flakeys
Angels of Anarchy Interstellar Confederation
389
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Posted - 2012.10.28 09:36:00 -
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Cabal Prime wrote:Alphea Abbra, I'm fairly new to the game. I've been playing since late January or early February. A few months back, SCU joined up with **** and moved down to one of the 2 systems that **** owned while filling contracts for AAA for fuel and other things. When AAA started losing their systems in the area, we first were going to move to LGK as we were told by AAA leadership. Then, our leaders saw that Cascade Imminent was failing and hemorrhaging members and corps. So, our leaders sent an expedition to Cascade space and found a couple of nice systems. It was decided to see about taking those over as Cascade Imminent no longer seemed to be active. For weeks, we had people in those two systems and the surrounding Cascade Imminent systems hoping to find someone there to tell us that they were active. Suddenly, after about 2 or 3 days of us hitting the systems, a member of AAA ORDERED our people there to take down the SBUs and was referred to a specific **** leader: Jaydn Remko as he handles diplo. The sad part is less than 24 hours later, we were reset from blue with AAA to red and a AAA alt in Cascade Imminent kicked us out of all of Cascade Imminent stations. The sad part is that we have always been quite reasonable in our dealings with AAA. They are the ones that failed to let us know what they were planning until AFTER we had already invested time, ships, and equipment in taking those two systems. And, instead of maintaining our former level of relations where we helped them with fuel, other contracts, and combat, while we maintained 2 systems in AAA space; they are more interested in taking two systems by force than in friendship. That is what makes this such a backstabbing move by them. We did not know about the ties to Cascade Imminent until they ORDERED us to stop what we were doing as they never let anyone else know what their plans were.
So in short you dropped SBU's in controlled space without asking diplo's and then are surprised you get an agressive stance for it?And on top you are surprised to be ''pushed out of the station'' by the alliance you tried to take the system from?
My experiences with -A- in the past have not been the best but in this case i'd see what probably triggered the agression. There is a sufficiency in the world for man's need but not for man's greed.-á |
Alphea Abbra
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
64
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Posted - 2012.10.28 09:50:00 -
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Bastion Hoyt wrote:Cobal, I think she was making a joke. Yes. I joined S2N juust in time to see the AAA warmachine in action during Delve int(GêP-ƒ+ö(-Ç+g^2)), where g is the bittervet constant you hear when TheMittani speaks. Which was why I said "nah, who am I kidding?" and "AAA, good riddance."
AAA is bad for others, and maybe also for themselves. Relying on AAA is like relying on the French in good jokes, it's not a question of if, it's a question of when you're thrown under the bus. |
Lovelocke
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
119
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Posted - 2012.10.28 09:59:00 -
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Beachura wrote:Hi guys, another controversial thread from your very own Beachura.
Then, whilst spending my time in No Value alliance, I witnessed just the barbaric nature of an alliance that is only comparable to the government of a third world nation.
Confirming an alliance in an internet spaceship game is literally the same as the government of a third world nation. Literally.
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roy oakes
Pimebeka Industrial Mining Productions Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1
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Posted - 2012.10.28 14:20:00 -
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cabal, nulli secunda member up there was jacking with ppl. read the whole reply. dude. hell so far ive had more fun in detorid with them and the other locals than i have had in a long time in catch. lots of FRIENDLY pvp. we blast away and all joke and chat afterward. mainly being nuli, whyso, and ink. all decent guys. ZERO TRASH TALK FROM EM CANT SAY THE SAME OF 95% OF OUR PREVIOUS BLUES IN CATCH. DETORID=COOL PEEPS |
ColdFire124
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
0
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Posted - 2012.10.28 15:23:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Cabal Prime wrote:Alphea Abbra, I'm fairly new to the game. I've been playing since late January or early February. A few months back, SCU joined up with **** and moved down to one of the 2 systems that **** owned while filling contracts for AAA for fuel and other things. When AAA started losing their systems in the area, we first were going to move to LGK as we were told by AAA leadership. Then, our leaders saw that Cascade Imminent was failing and hemorrhaging members and corps. So, our leaders sent an expedition to Cascade space and found a couple of nice systems. It was decided to see about taking those over as Cascade Imminent no longer seemed to be active. For weeks, we had people in those two systems and the surrounding Cascade Imminent systems hoping to find someone there to tell us that they were active. Suddenly, after about 2 or 3 days of us hitting the systems, a member of AAA ORDERED our people there to take down the SBUs and was referred to a specific **** leader: Jaydn Remko as he handles diplo. The sad part is less than 24 hours later, we were reset from blue with AAA to red and a AAA alt in Cascade Imminent kicked us out of all of Cascade Imminent stations. The sad part is that we have always been quite reasonable in our dealings with AAA. They are the ones that failed to let us know what they were planning until AFTER we had already invested time, ships, and equipment in taking those two systems. And, instead of maintaining our former level of relations where we helped them with fuel, other contracts, and combat, while we maintained 2 systems in AAA space; they are more interested in taking two systems by force than in friendship. That is what makes this such a backstabbing move by them. We did not know about the ties to Cascade Imminent until they ORDERED us to stop what we were doing as they never let anyone else know what their plans were. So in short you dropped SBU's in controlled space without asking diplo's and then are surprised you get an agressive stance for it?And on top you are surprised to be ''pushed out of the station'' by the alliance you tried to take the system from? My experiences with -A- in the past have not been the best but in this case i'd see what probably triggered the agression.
we was told to go with IO in omist by -a- back in May 18th 2011 G-B3PR and i lost my job.. and jaydn had some RL problems at that time corporations start leaving our alliance and -a- gave the order to sbu the systems there,, so blue on blue or blue on collapsed alliance.. what is the difference.
but then again it is not -A- space it is FAIL Space and FAIL FAILED ..
sorry I have to re-post some of my other post.. |
Kamden Line
Eclipse Navy Get Off My Lawn
21
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Posted - 2012.10.28 17:29:00 -
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Is this the Pity party? Sorry I'm late guys. |
Qweasdy
Space Cowboys United Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
0
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Posted - 2012.10.29 03:27:00 -
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Kamden Line wrote:Is this the Pity party? Sorry I'm late guys.
No this is the "no one likes AAA and they should go cascade in a fire" party and latecomers are perfectly welcome |
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Cismani
Kangaroo Ate my baby Li3 Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.10.29 04:50:00 -
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Xorth Adimus wrote:Remind me never to post in COAD again..
Dropping SBUs on a system you don't own, this is basicly an act of war, isn't this a really really basic thing?
wait -A- did that with 49U, not once... not twice... but how many times... and you wonder why the HBC decided to kick your arse.
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Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
292
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Posted - 2012.10.29 11:52:00 -
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Guys they are called Against ALL Alliances for a reason! "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc
478
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Posted - 2012.11.02 11:50:00 -
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-A-'s RMT'd ships will blot out the sun |
Wishdokkta CEO
The Riot Formation Unclaimed.
23
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Posted - 2012.11.02 13:47:00 -
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Xorth Adimus wrote:Remind me never to post in COAD again..
Never post in COAD again.
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WarFireV
The Maverick Navy Against ALL Authorities
70
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Posted - 2012.11.02 19:27:00 -
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Whats up bitchs? |
Rahne Sentro
The Suicide Kings Test Alliance Please Ignore
7
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Posted - 2012.11.02 23:37:00 -
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What's the RMT equivalent of "kb green"?
Paypal green?
Our wallets stay flashy? |
fukier
Flatline.
92
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Posted - 2012.11.03 14:57:00 -
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Xolve wrote:It's only a matter of time until someone, anyone, gives -A- space again, just to watch this comedy unfold once more.
A are like bacteria... and the HBC are the latest anti bacterial soap... the problem with bacteria is that you can only ever kill 99.9% of it... so every now and then the latest version of soap will have to go back and cleanse the area of them...
They typically fall back to northern east stain and live in NPC systems untill the lastest coalition turns from PVP mode to PVE mode and then they move back in.
its really a lather rinse repeat type of thing...
I would love to see if someone could actually get A disbanded but then that would mean the yearly popcorn events would be gone... watching people kill A is like watching a new season of Game of Thrones... i would be sad if the show was cancelled.
At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |
kahn ching
THE SARCASTIC BASTARDS. Hoist The Colors
1
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Posted - 2012.11.04 05:54:00 -
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The faster -A- burns the better eve will be. |
ConranAntoni
Empyrean Warriors The Obsidian Front
24
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Posted - 2012.11.04 18:44:00 -
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Every time I see a topic on -A- I immediately remember that moment in Mortal Kombat where your trying to remember the buttons for a fatality and just can't remember so you dickpunch them instead. |
WarFireV
The Maverick Navy Against ALL Authorities
70
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Posted - 2012.11.04 20:34:00 -
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People keep making these topics because they love us(and get killed by us) too much <3 |
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