A corpmate lost 3 freighters, he try scoot, alternative way, he pay goon 2B. nothing work. He lost around 20b,

In my case i lost 4b because of this gank.

All my corpmate farm in null sec is destroy in high sec when trying to sell it at jita. He just want to stop the game no plaisure to play with this mechanics.

What CCP is supposed to do with this ? CCP want to keep troublemaker player or serious player ?

his biggest mistake was probably paying them ransom, the biggest bullseye one can paint on a ship

how stupid can one become ?

After 3 freighter and 20b lost pay 2 b to test if it's true was not a bad idea... now we know that's not working

[...]CCP needs to create a pop up for everytime someone puts an amount of items in any ship worth a lot of ISK that warns the person that their freight can make them a potential target to would be pirates. If it's items that CCP isn't able to estimate, the warning should just pop up as a default.

Actually just make it pup up everytime you undock with any hauling ship; with the option to disable it. It's not CCP's responcibility to fix stupid behavior.

After 3 freighter and 20b lost pay 2 b to test if it's true was not a bad idea... now we know that's not working

Would you be willing to give me 200 million if i told you i could teach you how to fly with five times more safety than flying a freighter (and still be able to haul a lot of cargo)?!

To test it, maybe? I'm being honest, by the way.

i don't know a freighter low would need either PG or CPU since cargohold expanders, inertia stabs and nanofiber all have zero fitting reqs

damm, 1 low slot for a DC II (damage control, freighters have a lot of structure)

A corpmate lost 3 freighters, he try scoot, alternative way, he pay goon 2B. nothing work. He lost around 20b,

What CCP is supposed to do with this ? CCP want to keep troublemaker player or serious player ?

A corpmate lost 3 freighters, he try scoot, alternative way, he pay goon 2B. nothing work. He lost around 20b,

In my case i lost 4b because of this gank.

All my corpmate farm in null sec is destroy in high sec when trying to sell it at jita. He just want to stop the game no plaisure to play with this mechanics.

What CCP is supposed to do with this ? CCP want to keep troublemaker player or serious player ?

Oh come on, as if anyone'd use that slot for anything as useless as a DCII. I mean, just like tanking mods are useless on mining barges since they "hurt their yield", a DCII on a freighter would be useless since it "hurts their cargospace".

damm, 1 low slot for a DC II (damage control, freighters have a lot of structure)

It will make ganking a lot harder.

60 CPU and one low slot and one powergrid, CCP it is not much

And why should ganking be made even harder yet again?

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Because you are abusing the mechanics.

Where's the abuse?

also, you put 4bn isk of crap in a freighter, what did you expect to happen?

I'm not allowed to discuss exploits on the forum.

I'm not allowed to discuss exploits on the forum.

It used to be no problem for many years for 99 % of all freighter pilots flying through "high Sec", because freighter ganks were rare. Now Bat Country showed everybody it is indeed very easy to gank freighters and it became an extremely profitable profession. Now it is really not wise to fly around in such a badly tanked ship with a cargo that looks like being more valuable than the suicide ganker's ships. That must not be 2 bil ISK. The guy with the ship scanner often just estimates the value, sometimes overestimates it.

You get a nice freighter killmail, maybe some nice loot drops and if something goes wrong, you just lost a few crap fit destroyers and BCs. That is the classic no risk pvp. You risk nothing big, but if you do not make a stupid mistake, you get a garantied Capital kill.

That's just a bullshit response because there are no exploits being used, and you know it.

These no risk ships costing around a billion isk and the drops not being garenteed. Yep, that doesnt sound like taking a risk at all!

[quote=baltec1]


It is split over couple of guys, isnt it?

You go rat for your suicide gank ship 20 minutes maybe .. no wait, you have Tech?
The freighter pilot risks a lot more as single person for just wanting to bring something from A to B.

What you do is no risk PVP. Freighters do not shoot back either. The biggest risk you have, that you too stupid to calculate the DPS you need right. Overall it does not matter, whether a freighter does not drop something sometimes. Overall you make always a PLUS, that is why you do freighter ganks now every day. So again, it is no risk PVP.

It is split over couple of guys, isnt it?

What you do is no risk PVP.

Freighters do not shoot back either.

Its 100% risk pvp. We lose our ships no matter what happens. We might miscalculate and not kill the ship, it might not drop anything at all. Hell it could even turn out to be double wrapped trit again. WT might arrive and break up the camp, the freighter might have an escort ect.

Only fools think ganking freighters is risk free. The difference between us and the people who want to nerf ganking is that we accept the risk.

Thank you for the free bump of my thread. Ok, lets reiterate:

- nobody shoots you back

- freighters cant run away
- you know, you lose your ship, so you put a crap fit on it and only lose t1 ships
- you know, if you not succeed at one attempt, your profit will come after several kills
- you get a nice Freigther kill mail
- it is called suicide gank and not combat for a reason.

Thank you for the free bump of my thread. Ok, lets reiterate:

- nobody shoots you back
- freighters cant run away
- you know, you lose your ship, so you put a crap fit on it and only lose t1 ships
- you know, if you not succeed at one attempt, your profit will come after several kills
- you get a nice Freigther kill mail
- it is called suicide gank and not combat for a reason.