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Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
136
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Posted - 2012.10.31 09:49:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Rordan D'Kherr wrote:If you guys feel that Goonswarm, Test etc. are a threat to you:
why don't you unite and fight them? Because the last time they united and fought them, they got their barges buffed under the weight of all the whine.
I mean in space, not in forums 
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
725
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Posted - 2012.10.31 09:51:00 -
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Rordan D'Kherr wrote:If you guys feel that Goonswarm, Test etc. are a threat to you:
why don't you unite and fight them?
As far as I can tell form talking to random folk in hi-sec local, most hi-sec players have little or no real interest in null-sec, Goons or TEST etc.
So I am at a loss as to why hi-sec folk would unite to fight them.
This is not to disrespect the Goons etc as they do provide a lot of good meaningful gameplay (Ice Interdiction for example) but, to be honest the EGO wars in null are just not that entertaining.
Lets be honest, if the Goons stopped spamming the forums, they would effectively disappear for most players. This is not a signature. |

Lord Zim
1893
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Posted - 2012.10.31 09:57:00 -
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Rordan D'Kherr wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Rordan D'Kherr wrote:If you guys feel that Goonswarm, Test etc. are a threat to you:
why don't you unite and fight them? Because the last time they united and fought them, they got their barges buffed under the weight of all the whine. I mean in space, not in forums  That's just not going to happen, and you know why. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |

Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
309
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Posted - 2012.10.31 10:12:00 -
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GGRRRRR GOOONS (AND TEST)
This has all happened before, and it shall all happen again.
"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |

Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
965
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Posted - 2012.10.31 10:12:00 -
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Just when I thought GD forums could not get any worse.
The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |

Sentamon
209
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Posted - 2012.10.31 10:14:00 -
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The big Nullsec alliances should ramp up their recruitment drives.
It's clearly the solution to all your lack of combat woes. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

turmajin
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.11.02 15:31:00 -
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I dont think for one moment 0.0 will ever be a sea of blue.Power blocks come ad go ,and the game changes BOB was going to control null ,now its gone.Everything in a sandbox game is ever changing.Also lets remember DUST is just around the corner ,maybe days away from release,and sov changes will come to EVE as a consequence.I aso think holding on to vast amounts of territory will become even harder in the comming years.With new POSes i think being able to be captured or destroyed ,and if CCP gets its way more affordable so even smaller alliances can try staking a cliam in null..High sec may burn now and again Hulkaggendon may restart in a big way,bt one thing im sure of .The game will still have lots for us to do including new types of PVP |

Dar Manic
Republic University Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.11.02 15:49:00 -
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Gogela wrote:Good. If the goons can blue all of null maybe having every other developer and gaming magazine pointing and laughing at CCPs mis-management of their game will compel them to make space people actually want.
Godspeed goons.
Um... doen't 71% of the accounts exist in Hi-sec (seems that is the number being post on GD)? Seems they already have that. I just don't understand null sec players.
Please note: Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up.-á Thank you. |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
362
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Posted - 2012.11.02 15:54:00 -
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Dar Manic wrote:Gogela wrote:Good. If the goons can blue all of null maybe having every other developer and gaming magazine pointing and laughing at CCPs mis-management of their game will compel them to make space people actually want.
Godspeed goons. Um... doen't 71% of the accounts exist in Hi-sec (seems that is the number being post on GD)? Seems they already have that.
71% of CHARACTERS, not accounts.
I have 4 accounts, 6 of characters are currently in high sec, that statistic (that high sec pilots cling to like a life raft) doesn't mean what you'd like to think it means. |

Dar Manic
Republic University Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.11.02 16:00:00 -
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CCP should be sued for false advertising. It's really not a sandbox. It's just a shooting game played in null sec by null sec rules... seems reasonable to me. Anyone not wishing to play by null sec rules should leave... adapt or die!!!! ;) I just don't understand null sec players.
Please note: Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up.-á Thank you. |
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Kenneth O'Hara
Bareback Pornstars Fade 2 Black
3361
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Posted - 2012.11.02 16:03:00 -
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Tired of whinny pointless threads such as this? Click on the link in my sig... Don't worry, it's safe. It goes back to the forums. Best thread ever!!!
Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas. ~Isaac Clarke |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
362
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Posted - 2012.11.02 16:12:00 -
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Dar Manic wrote:CCP should be sued for false advertising. It's really not a sandbox. It's just a shooting game played in null sec by null sec rules... seems reasonable to me. Anyone not wishing to play by null sec rules should leave... adapt or die!!!! ;)
That's really pitiful.
Players in eve play by their own rules. Prblem is A) Reality has it's own set of rules and B) other people playing the sandbox and and will legitimately make you play by THEIR rules.
Don't like it, no problem, to each his own but don't let the door hit your backside on the way out.
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HollyShocker 2inthestink
State War Academy Caldari State
48
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Posted - 2012.11.02 16:17:00 -
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Lord Calus wrote:Post on your real char or GTFO.
Sensing a great deal of NCdawt, prosu gosu ~elite pvp~, wulfpaxx, guudfites, anti-blob blob butthurt.
You wouldnt like my main. |

Anslo
BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance
496
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Posted - 2012.11.02 16:19:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Dar Manic wrote:CCP should be sued for false advertising. It's really not a sandbox. It's just a shooting game played in null sec by null sec rules... seems reasonable to me. Anyone not wishing to play by null sec rules should leave... adapt or die!!!! ;) That's really pitiful. Players in eve play by their own rules. Prblem is A) Reality has it's own set of rules and B) other people playing the sandbox and and will legitimately make you play by THEIR rules. Don't like it, no problem, to each his own but don't let the door hit your backside on the way out.
Seriously....way too hostile chill out man.
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Dar Manic
Republic University Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.11.02 16:25:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Dar Manic wrote:CCP should be sued for false advertising. It's really not a sandbox. It's just a shooting game played in null sec by null sec rules... seems reasonable to me. Anyone not wishing to play by null sec rules should leave... adapt or die!!!! ;) That's really pitiful. Players in eve play by their own rules. Prblem is A) Reality has it's own set of rules and B) other people playing the sandbox and and will legitimately make you play by THEIR rules. Don't like it, no problem, to each his own but don't let the door hit your backside on the way out.
You completely went off the wrong way. I see that quite often in your posts. And hostile... wow. you really need to go afk for a while. I just don't understand null sec players.
Please note: Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up.-á Thank you. |

Cydori
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.11.02 16:41:00 -
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I've said over and over that the current sovereignty system is so broken it's actually kind of hard to believe CCP went forward with such a pitiable design to begin with. It doesn't just need tweaked and adjusted, it needs to be thrown out because the entire concept of how sovereignty works in EVE is just laughably bad.
And what you see in null-sec is the natural result of this obviously broken system.
It needs to be thrown out in its entirety and completely re-imagined. Despite its mountains of flaws, EVE used to be a fun and dynamic game where anything seemed possible and players were always coming up with the unexpected. But those days are long past. Now the cycles of EVE are as predictable as the sun, and virtually every aspect of the game has been nerfed, re-nerfed, and pre-nerfed to create an all-too-predictable grind based, intentionally or not, on the banal rock-paper-scissors theory of game design. Uhhhhh.
Rather than help foster a dynamic player vs. player environment of risk and entertainment, the current system has caused player interactions to devolve to the lowest common denominator. B-o-r-i-n-g.
EVE needs an enema. And it needs to go where the crap is spewing from, which is the sovereignty system. |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
362
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Posted - 2012.11.02 16:47:00 -
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Dar Manic wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Dar Manic wrote:CCP should be sued for false advertising. It's really not a sandbox. It's just a shooting game played in null sec by null sec rules... seems reasonable to me. Anyone not wishing to play by null sec rules should leave... adapt or die!!!! ;) That's really pitiful. Players in eve play by their own rules. Prblem is A) Reality has it's own set of rules and B) other people playing the sandbox and and will legitimately make you play by THEIR rules. Don't like it, no problem, to each his own but don't let the door hit your backside on the way out. You completely went off the wrong way. I see that quite often in your posts. And hostile... wow. you really need to go afk for a while.
Anslo wrote:Seriously....way too hostile  chill out man.
Dear God, you guys can't even handle conflict on the forums. I mean i get not wanting to go to null or pvp or what-not, but damn, is everything supposed to be happy happy fun time with you people?
I mean seriously, that wasn't even me on harsh mode lol.
I simply don't think people your you 2 guys "temperament" are cut out for EVE. Unfortunately, there are lots of your type around, which is what I'll never understand because this great non-pvp game exists and you should go there..... |

Sara XIII
The Carnifex Corp
110
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Posted - 2012.11.02 16:51:00 -
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Everything will work out. Say what you want about the goons but they are good stewards of EVE.
If the "Age of Blue" is bad for EVE it won't happen. Between Ignorance and Wisdom |

Den Arius
Forestry Commision The Grizzly Bears
23
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Posted - 2012.11.02 16:54:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:The big Nullsec alliances should ramp up their recruitment drives.
It's clearly the solution to all your lack of combat woes.
In my personal opinion, this is the answer. I've always wanted to join TEST or Goons (that is no longer my objective, instead I cater to rejects) and I think that if they made some official marketing campaign which consolidated a universal "recruitment drive" between the CFC and HBC - we'd see a good chunk of the high sec community making the move down to get involved in 0.0 warfare.
From past experience, one of the main reasons why the high sec folks don't go down to 0.0 is because they have developed an image of null sec having a really high bar for entry . I've tried recruiting many "carebear" types before, and 75% respond to be with something along the lines of "I don't think I'm ready for Null Sec yet..." Some of them had over 6 months of experience under the belt - will they ever be ready? In actual fact, Null Sec can be enjoyed by week-old newbies. The next step for big alliance success, would be for the super-powers to break down the high-sec consensus that null sec is too scary/dangerous/elite for them.
----- Proud supporter of James 315's New Order of High Sec | Shareholder and Agent -----á https://dl.dropbox.com/u/75231886/Prencleeve.jpg | -áhttp://www.minerbumping.com/ |

Dar Manic
Republic University Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.11.02 16:58:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Dar Manic wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Dar Manic wrote:CCP should be sued for false advertising. It's really not a sandbox. It's just a shooting game played in null sec by null sec rules... seems reasonable to me. Anyone not wishing to play by null sec rules should leave... adapt or die!!!! ;) That's really pitiful. Players in eve play by their own rules. Prblem is A) Reality has it's own set of rules and B) other people playing the sandbox and and will legitimately make you play by THEIR rules. Don't like it, no problem, to each his own but don't let the door hit your backside on the way out. You completely went off the wrong way. I see that quite often in your posts. And hostile... wow. you really need to go afk for a while. Anslo wrote:Seriously....way too hostile  chill out man. Dear God, you guys can't even handle conflict on the forums. I mean i get not wanting to go to null or pvp or what-not, but damn, is everything supposed to be happy happy fun time with you people? I mean seriously, that wasn't even me on harsh mode lol. I simply don't think people your you 2 guys "temperament" are cut out for EVE. Unfortunately, there are lots of your type around, which is what I'll never understand because this great non-pvp game exists and you should go there.....
You are so lost. Hopefully you'll get a GPS. I just don't understand null sec players.
Please note: Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up.-á Thank you. |
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Dar Manic
Republic University Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.11.02 17:00:00 -
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Cydori wrote:I've said over and over that the current sovereignty system is so broken it's actually kind of hard to believe CCP went forward with such a pitiable design to begin with. It doesn't just need tweaked and adjusted, it needs to be thrown out because the entire concept of how sovereignty works in EVE is just laughably bad.
And what you see in null-sec is the natural result of this obviously broken system.
It needs to be thrown out in its entirety and completely re-imagined. Despite its mountains of flaws, EVE used to be a fun and dynamic game where anything seemed possible and players were always coming up with the unexpected. But those days are long past. Now the cycles of EVE are as predictable as the sun, and virtually every aspect of the game has been nerfed, re-nerfed, and pre-nerfed to create an all-too-predictable grind based, intentionally or not, on the banal rock-paper-scissors theory of game design. Uhhhhh.
Rather than help foster a dynamic player vs. player environment of risk and entertainment, the current system has caused player interactions to devolve to the lowest common denominator. B-o-r-i-n-g.
EVE needs an enema. And it needs to go where the crap is spewing from, which is the sovereignty system.
And this means what to hi-sec exactly? It is completely possible the sovereignty system is broken (don't care one way or the other) but fix that. Don't destroy the rest of Eve in a move to fix null sec. I just don't understand null sec players.
Please note: Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up.-á Thank you. |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
362
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Posted - 2012.11.02 17:00:00 -
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[u]Dar Manic wrote:
You are so lost. Hopefully you'll get a GPS.
Don't need one, i got Dotlan. and lol, Im not the one playing a pvp game who doesn't like pvp.
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Dar Manic
Republic University Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.11.02 17:02:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:[u] Dar Manic wrote:
You are so lost. Hopefully you'll get a GPS.
Don't need one, i got Dotlan. and lol, Im not the one playing a pvp game who doesn't like pvp. lol I'm not the one playing a sandbox game who doesn't like people who don't play they way they do. lol ;) I just don't understand null sec players.
Please note: Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up.-á Thank you. |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
362
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Posted - 2012.11.02 17:06:00 -
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Den Arius wrote:Sentamon wrote:The big Nullsec alliances should ramp up their recruitment drives.
It's clearly the solution to all your lack of combat woes. In my personal opinion, this is the answer. I've always wanted to join TEST or Goons (that is no longer my objective, instead I cater to rejects) and I think that if they made some official marketing campaign which consolidated a universal "recruitment drive" between the CFC and HBC - we'd see a good chunk of the high sec community making the move down to get involved in 0.0 warfare. From past experience, one of the main reasons why the high sec folks don't go down to 0.0 is because they have developed an image of null sec having a really high bar for entry . I've tried recruiting many "carebear" types before, and 75% respond to be with something along the lines of "I don't think I'm ready for Null Sec yet..." Some of them had over 6 months of experience under the belt - will they ever be ready? In actual fact, Null Sec can be enjoyed by week-old newbies. The next step for big alliance success, would be for the super-powers to break down the high-sec consensus that null sec is too scary/dangerous/elite for them.
If a dude (no chicks play EVE) doesn't have enough sack to fly an imaginary space ship to an imaginary part of space, they have more problems than lack of recruitment drives.
And are you completely daft? You really think a recruitment drive by THE most hated alliance in game (I like that Goons are screwing with stupid people and I STILL can't bring myself self to say the words "I like Goons" lol) is gonna change anything. Damn, why didn't I think of that, all those miners with blown up ships will simply let bygones be bygones and join goons....
BTW, the doctor called, he said you forgot to take your meds lol.
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Den Arius
Forestry Commision The Grizzly Bears
23
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Posted - 2012.11.02 17:07:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Den Arius wrote:Sentamon wrote:The big Nullsec alliances should ramp up their recruitment drives.
It's clearly the solution to all your lack of combat woes. In my personal opinion, this is the answer. I've always wanted to join TEST or Goons (that is no longer my objective, instead I cater to rejects) and I think that if they made some official marketing campaign which consolidated a universal "recruitment drive" between the CFC and HBC - we'd see a good chunk of the high sec community making the move down to get involved in 0.0 warfare. From past experience, one of the main reasons why the high sec folks don't go down to 0.0 is because they have developed an image of null sec having a really high bar for entry . I've tried recruiting many "carebear" types before, and 75% respond to be with something along the lines of "I don't think I'm ready for Null Sec yet..." Some of them had over 6 months of experience under the belt - will they ever be ready? In actual fact, Null Sec can be enjoyed by week-old newbies. The next step for big alliance success, would be for the super-powers to break down the high-sec consensus that null sec is too scary/dangerous/elite for them. If a dude (no chicks play EVE) doesn't have enough sack to fly an imaginary space ship to an imaginary part of space, they have more problems than lack of recruitment drives. And are you completely daft? You really think a recruitment drive by THE most hated alliance in game (I like that Goons are screwing with stupid people and I STILL can't bring myself self to say the words "I like Goons" lol) is gonna change anything. Damn, why didn't I think of that, all those miners with blown up ships will simply let bygones be bygones and join goons.... BTW, the doctor called, he said you forgot to take your meds lol.
If the Goons began openly recruiting without security deposits, I believe a lot of people (lots coming from high sec) would join them.
----- Proud supporter of James 315's New Order of High Sec | Shareholder and Agent -----á https://dl.dropbox.com/u/75231886/Prencleeve.jpg | -áhttp://www.minerbumping.com/ |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
362
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Posted - 2012.11.02 17:08:00 -
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Dar Manic wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:[u] Dar Manic wrote:
You are so lost. Hopefully you'll get a GPS.
Don't need one, i got Dotlan. and lol, Im not the one playing a pvp game who doesn't like pvp. lol I'm not the one playing a sandbox game who doesn't like people who don't play they way they do. lol ;)
I need to put in my sig (for nimrods such as this) the fact that I don't care how anyone plays. I just keep telling them they (like I have) need to accept the realities of EVE instead of trying to change them.
I like to explore, sometimes people try to scan me down and kill me despite the fact that i'd rather PVE right then. Nature of the game, no way I can get mad at that.
Folks like you don't get it though, and that's a shame.
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Ghazu
251
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Posted - 2012.11.02 17:13:00 -
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Den Arius wrote:
If the Goons began openly recruiting without security deposits, I believe a lot of people (lots coming from high sec) would join them.
You are missing the point of this exercise. http://www.minerbumping.com/ |

Bane Necran
Appono Astos
660
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Posted - 2012.11.02 17:14:00 -
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Den Arius wrote:If the Goons began openly recruiting without security deposits, I believe a lot of people (lots coming from high sec) would join them.
Hisec dwellers can always find a 0.0 corp to join, the only problem is the increased isk they can make there doesn't compensate for the boredom and 0.0 attitude. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |

Anslo
BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance
496
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Posted - 2012.11.02 17:16:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Dar Manic wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Dar Manic wrote:CCP should be sued for false advertising. It's really not a sandbox. It's just a shooting game played in null sec by null sec rules... seems reasonable to me. Anyone not wishing to play by null sec rules should leave... adapt or die!!!! ;) That's really pitiful. Players in eve play by their own rules. Prblem is A) Reality has it's own set of rules and B) other people playing the sandbox and and will legitimately make you play by THEIR rules. Don't like it, no problem, to each his own but don't let the door hit your backside on the way out. You completely went off the wrong way. I see that quite often in your posts. And hostile... wow. you really need to go afk for a while. Anslo wrote:Seriously....way too hostile  chill out man. Dear God, you guys can't even handle conflict on the forums. I mean i get not wanting to go to null or pvp or what-not, but damn, is everything supposed to be happy happy fun time with you people? I mean seriously, that wasn't even me on harsh mode lol. I simply don't think people your you 2 guys "temperament" are cut out for EVE. Unfortunately, there are lots of your type around, which is what I'll never understand because this great non-pvp game exists and you should go there.....
Considering I've been playing longer than you Jenna...I'd like to think I have a bit more of a mature/balanced look. You on the other hand...
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Dar Manic
Republic University Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2012.11.02 17:26:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Dar Manic wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:[u] Dar Manic wrote:
You are so lost. Hopefully you'll get a GPS.
Don't need one, i got Dotlan. and lol, Im not the one playing a pvp game who doesn't like pvp. lol I'm not the one playing a sandbox game who doesn't like people who don't play they way they do. lol ;) I need to put in my sig (for nimrods such as this) the fact that I don't care how anyone plays. I just keep telling them they (like I have) need to accept the realities of EVE instead of trying to change them. I like to explore, sometimes people try to scan me down and kill me despite the fact that i'd rather PVE right then. Nature of the game, no way I can get mad at that. Folks like you don't get it though, and that's a shame.
Wow... yet another complete tangent.
I'm not advocating ANY changes. None, nothing, nadda, (any other ways to say that). I am accepting the realities of EVE. That's the funny part of this entire conversation. It's perfectly ok right now as it is. It is a sandbox.
I need to put in my sig (for nimrods such as this) the fact that I don't care how anyone plays. I just keep telling them they (like I have) need to accept the realities of EVE instead of trying to change them.
I like to explore, sometimes people try to scan me down and kill me despite the fact that i'd rather PVE right then. Nature of the game, no way I can get mad at that.
Folks like you don't get it though, and that's a shame.
I couldn't have said it any better. Thanks for the help. At least we agree on 1 thing.
p.s. I explore, get scanned down, have people blow me up despite the fact I prefer to PVE at that moment. Trace back where I got mad or said change anything. You are reading something into my post(s) that isn't there. I just don't understand null sec players.
Please note: Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up.-á Thank you. |
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