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Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2859
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Posted - 2012.11.02 01:00:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Maybe if we knew who you were we could comment objectively. As it is I am just responding to yet another alt poster with too many whine threads. You'd think with the amount of time you've spent playing this game, you'd know how to recognize a spy. I can't be 100% sure after reading just 2 posts out of 7, but I'd say that is not the case here.
Member of TLF for nearly a month with perfect 0.0 sec status.  (a¦á_a¦â) ~ (my spaceblog) http://bit.ly/RB6X4C ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Moe Doobie
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.11.02 01:05:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Moe Doobie wrote: Hiding = Malicious intent.
In EVE, that is a safe assumption.
I disagree.
Again. A Devoted spy will do anything to get in. A Devoted spy will KNOW what you're looking for.
Granted, the person hiding COULD also be a spy.
However since the toon with the clean cut trans history and the one who is hiding his could both be spies, what exactly, then, is the point of wanting to check the trans history to expose this intent?
We're going in circles, the earlier poster was right,some folks just take this game WAY too seriously.
Just need to find some laid back folks to play with. I'm not putting myself through a Federal Background check and I'm not joining someone's stupidass forum and sit for 3 months just to apply and play. If that means joining a smaller Alliance/Corp then so be it. |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2577
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Posted - 2012.11.02 01:10:00 -
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Moe Doobie wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Moe Doobie wrote: Hiding = Malicious intent.
In EVE, that is a safe assumption. I disagree. Again. A Devoted spy will do anything to get in. A Devoted spy will KNOW what you're looking for. Granted, the person hiding COULD also be a spy. However since the toon with the clean cut trans history and the one who is hiding his could both be spies, what exactly, then, is the point of wanting to check the trans history to expose this intent? We're going in circles, the earlier poster was right,some folks just take this game WAY too seriously. Just need to find some laid back folks to play with. I'm not putting myself through a Federal Background check and I'm not joining someone's stupidass forum and sit for 3 months just to apply and play. If that means joining a smaller Alliance/Corp then so be it.
Your corp has required information on applications. Every single member supplies it. Then some guy comes along and refuses to share it. That is suspicious. Raises red flags.
Yes, a spy who puts in tons of time and effort is going to get in. But if you had any idea how many incompetent or lazy spies get busted by even the most basic checks, your head would probably explode. Most people are stupid and/or lazy. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Moe Doobie
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.11.02 01:13:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Moe Doobie wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Moe Doobie wrote: Hiding = Malicious intent.
In EVE, that is a safe assumption. I disagree. Again. A Devoted spy will do anything to get in. A Devoted spy will KNOW what you're looking for. Granted, the person hiding COULD also be a spy. However since the toon with the clean cut trans history and the one who is hiding his could both be spies, what exactly, then, is the point of wanting to check the trans history to expose this intent? We're going in circles, the earlier poster was right,some folks just take this game WAY too seriously. Just need to find some laid back folks to play with. I'm not putting myself through a Federal Background check and I'm not joining someone's stupidass forum and sit for 3 months just to apply and play. If that means joining a smaller Alliance/Corp then so be it. Your corp has required information on applications. Every single member supplies it. Then some guy comes along and refuses to share it. That is suspicious. Raises red flags. Yes, a spy who puts in tons of time and effort is going to get in. But if you had any idea how many incompetent or lazy spies get busted by even the most basic checks, your head would probably explode. Most people are stupid and/or lazy.
I get it. That's why I didn't hassle her. I just said thanks and moved along.
Super-Spy, right?
lol.
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2577
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Posted - 2012.11.02 01:22:00 -
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Moe Doobie wrote: I get it. That's why I didn't hassle her. I just said thanks and moved along.
Super-Spy, right?
lol.
Then what exactly are you even complaining about? If you won't even meet basic requirements, a corp is not going to be sad they lost a sketchy applicant. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Jaison Savrin
Remnants of the Forgotten Seekers of the Unseen
64
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Posted - 2012.11.02 01:23:00 -
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This whole discussion goes right back to my argument that Eve's biggest flaw is the people who play it. Get used to supplying your API though. Most corps require it and it is an annoying part of living in Eve. |

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
917
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Posted - 2012.11.02 01:29:00 -
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I'd like to point out that if you're a highsec corp nobody you're at war with has a spy in your corp these days. Anything you can possibly be doing that is actually interesting enough to warrant a response is trivial to find out using neutral scouts and locator agents and if you have a fleet and it's in space everyone already knows what it is as soon as it forms up.
Literally the only thing useful things a spy can do is send out the absolutely hilarious alliance mails explaining how you're going to do a 'PVP OP' on Saturday which consists of like a 6 man fleet that comes and camps people who you apparently didn't notice were logged off and even if they were logged in you're sitting on the wrong side of the gate anyway plus you'll run away if you see anything more dangerous than a t1 frigate so the whole exercise is a waste of time to begin with. |

Arsedestroyer
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
56
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Posted - 2012.11.02 01:30:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Moe Doobie wrote: I get it. That's why I didn't hassle her. I just said thanks and moved along.
Super-Spy, right?
lol.
Then what exactly are you even complaining about? If you won't even meet basic requirements, a corp is not going to be sad they lost a sketchy applicant.
TEST has basic requirements?
This community never ceases to amaze me. |

Lysa D
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.11.02 01:33:00 -
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Moe Doobie wrote:I applied to a well known Corp/Alliance on my main, and sent their recruiter my API key. I unchecked everything that gave info on how much isk I have and my transactions. .
All spy conspiracy theories aside, some corporations want to know if you are self-sufficient and part of that is being able to fund yourself with appropriate amounts of ISK. Corporations tend to avoid people who whine "I have no ISK" or "I can't join this corp activity because I need to mission for ISK". |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2577
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Posted - 2012.11.02 01:34:00 -
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Arsedestroyer wrote: TEST has basic requirements?
This community never ceases to amaze me.
I didn't even mention TEST, and yes, Dreddit requires you to furnish an API and have been an active member of Reddit.
0/10. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Arsedestroyer
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
56
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Posted - 2012.11.02 01:43:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:
I didn't even mention TEST, and yes, Dreddit requires you to furnish an API and have been an active member of Reddit.
0/10.
I know it's rather laborious to get into test through Dreddit, but my RvB alt got recruited into a test corp right off the bat.
And yes - I gave them my API... |

Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
129
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Posted - 2012.11.02 01:48:00 -
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PlanetCorp has no such requirements, but we are also ultra compartmentalized. So the impact of a spy, troll, or thief is... negligible.
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No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1553
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Posted - 2012.11.02 01:57:00 -
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It's space money, obviously the OP has something to hide  primary target is broadcasted, put all drones on the warp disruption battery. If you are in a frigate you should be at the gate, who blew up? |

Moe Doobie
Republic University Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2012.11.02 03:36:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:It's space money, obviously the OP has something to hide 
I did some things I'm not proud of...
Like how yesterday, on my alt I auto piloted all the way to deklein (just wanted to explore, hopefully see some cool s**t) and some guy from Goonswarm messaged me asking me to pee on him.
I swear this happened.
Did I do it?
*shrug*
I then got blown up by some territorial unit...
and got podded 30 seconds later by a smartbomb.
I wasn't even bothering anyone dude.
MInding my business... |

Moe Doobie
Republic University Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2012.11.02 03:40:00 -
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Arsedestroyer wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:
I didn't even mention TEST, and yes, Dreddit requires you to furnish an API and have been an active member of Reddit.
0/10.
I know it's rather laborious to get into test through Dreddit, but my RvB alt got recruited into a test corp right off the bat. And yes - I gave them my API...
I don't want to seem like one of the parasites, but then I want to join to good sized group simply because they're active and established and can spare time to actually teach.
The downside to this is things like this Reddit requirement. Dude I don't really have loads of time to actually play, I now have to find time to post on a forum in order to join as well?? It's their thing, w/e, that's their right. I just can't do it. I just want to play. ALl of this hoop jumping is stupid.
I get the point about the API though. I concede. Several EXP players have emailed me explaining the reasons why, and I appreciate it very much. |

Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Core Federation Black Core Alliance
153
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Posted - 2012.11.02 03:46:00 -
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Silk daShocka wrote:Cuz bad players still think the API will do something to prevent spys. Nothing can prevent a determined infiltrator, but without API checks it would be about 20x easier to infiltrate/spy.
Another upside of API checks is to monitor for thieves, and mitigate the damage they can do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8 |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
387
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Posted - 2012.11.02 03:54:00 -
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I gave it a few seconds of thought and I reckon transaction history would be the best way to identify if a character is an alt, who they hang out with, the names of any alts the character has and if the character just so happens to have the bhaalgorn that just went missing yesterday
Yeah I'm pretty clever I know I know
Also re. the assertion 'nothing can prevent a good spy', I imagine a basic check prevents bad spies that could still have taken your stuff if you hadn't made a check
What's the problem with showing your wallet history anyway, do you spend most of your isk on spacesmut? |

Thead Enco
Awesome Corp
5
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Posted - 2012.11.02 03:56:00 -
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Moe Doobie wrote: Damn man, it just seems like EVERYTHING in this game is so friggin complicated...I just want to have some fun man, s**t....
Because they can, Deal with it |

Moe Doobie
Republic University Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2012.11.02 03:59:00 -
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Thead Enco wrote:Moe Doobie wrote: Damn man, it just seems like EVERYTHING in this game is so friggin complicated...I just want to have some fun man, s**t....
Because they can, Deal with it
No.
I'll just apply elsewhere.
but ty for the suggestion. |

Titus Phook
6
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Posted - 2012.11.02 04:14:00 -
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Looks like someone switched to an alt and cleaned up their posting style after thoroughly burning another character with foul mouthed, self opinionated hypocritical rants in the hilarious Miners Unite thread.
Look I can do the alt thing to. They said I could be anything I wanted, so I became fabulous. |

James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1148
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Posted - 2012.11.02 04:15:00 -
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Moe Doobie wrote:The downside to this is things like this Reddit requirement. Dude I don't really have loads of time to actually play, I now have to find time to post on a forum in order to join as well? Yes, because they're a gaming community of their own and they want like-minded individuals in their corp, not just random riffraff like the rest of us corps and alliances. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem
A simple fix to the local intel problem |

Moe Doobie
Republic University Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2012.11.02 04:21:00 -
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[quote=Titus Phook]Looks like someone switched to an alt and cleaned up their posting style after thoroughly burning another character with foul mouthed, self opinionated hypocritical rants in the hilarious Miners Unite thread.
put up a witty remark... decided to delete it.
it's too late in the night to be arguing with nitwits. |

Moe Doobie
Republic University Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2012.11.02 04:28:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Moe Doobie wrote:The downside to this is things like this Reddit requirement. Dude I don't really have loads of time to actually play, I now have to find time to post on a forum in order to join as well? Yes, because they're a gaming community of their own and they want like-minded individuals in their corp, not just random riffraff like the rest of us corps and alliances.
Sooo....teamspeak doesn't Achieve the same results?
Eve already has forums. Aren't we a "gaming community"?
What I don't get is why people keep saying Alliances like Test and Goons are so friendly to noobs.
How is asking me to post on a forum I'm not even interested in for 3 months just to join noob friendly? Same with Goons, pay 10 bucks to join this site to join, blah blah blah. The corps in their alliance also tend to have ridiculous requirements (Like Wildly).
Like I said, I just want to play. I just want to find some chill ass guys to blow stuff up with. I don't need isk. Don't need my hand held. I don't want to be part of your little forums cool kids club. I don't want to waste 3 months of my life kissing your ass on some forums (let's be honest that's all the prospects are doing on Reddit and SA...that's why they're there).
I just want to play EvE. I just want to play man. |

Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
578
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Posted - 2012.11.02 05:45:00 -
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I have 2 spies in 2 ally's.
12 or so months setting up. 1 is in a good spot.
API, everything asked for was granted, I had err.... nothing to hide... 
tralalalala "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..." |

Count of MonteCylon
MonteCylon Money Acquisition and Demolition Ltd.
11
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Posted - 2012.11.02 05:58:00 -
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My RL employer didn't ask for my bank account details, so I was able to steal the company yacht and sail it to Dubai where I promptly sold it for two billion ISK. |

Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
585
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Posted - 2012.11.02 06:04:00 -
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If you apply for a job in real life that requires you to be security cleared, they may run a credit check on you anyway.
They're not that invasive. At least they didn't ask for proof of residency. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Oaiso
21
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Posted - 2012.11.02 06:31:00 -
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Protip: anchor a can in a SS and drop things for your alt in there, station logs are recorded in your journal so don't do it there
Skill books, PLEX, drop in the can. Then pick it up with the alt.
Though the alt should buy most skillbooks itself |

Ghazu
251
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Posted - 2012.11.02 07:01:00 -
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Feel free to start your own non invasive corp. http://www.minerbumping.com/ |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5455
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Posted - 2012.11.02 07:04:00 -
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Moe Doobie wrote:How is asking me to post on a forum I'm not even interested in for 3 months just to join noob friendly? Same with Goons, pay 10 bucks to join this site to join, blah blah blah.
Because you're not being asked to post on a forum to join. The idea is that you should already be a member of that community. ~*a-áproud belligerent undesirable*~ |

Oaiso
21
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Posted - 2012.11.02 07:05:00 -
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Andski wrote:Moe Doobie wrote:How is asking me to post on a forum I'm not even interested in for 3 months just to join noob friendly? Same with Goons, pay 10 bucks to join this site to join, blah blah blah. Because you're not being asked to post on a forum to join. The idea is that you should already be a member of that community.
Is that what you call noob friendly? |
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