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Xantia Blade
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Posted - 2005.04.07 20:38:00 -
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Edited by: Xantia Blade on 07/04/2005 20:38:22
TITAN
OMG that Titan is HUGE!!! Look at all the little battleships around it like flies!!
This is from todays little test where a dev asked people to shoot at him to test lag stuff. There was about 50 ships and 100 drones swarming him.
I'll prolly never be rich enough to buy one but just a few questions!
1. Will Titans be available on NPC markets or will one lucky dude become EVEs richest player with a Titan BPO? 2. What skills are needed? 3. Can they dock or will players dock at them? It looks half the size of the station!
Woot im excited!     
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2005.04.07 20:42:00 -
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Help. 
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Posted - 2005.04.07 20:42:00 -
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Actualy its quite small... _________________________________
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2005.04.07 20:42:00 -
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Thats why its called titan, cause its big. 
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fairimear
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Posted - 2005.04.07 20:43:00 -
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thats a really bad perspective. that titan is 3 years old and is about double to triple the size of a megathron.
was mentioned that that titan will probably not be anything like what hits tq eventualy during that fight.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2005.04.07 20:44:00 -
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hmmm, did u ever think that camera is maybe CLOSER to titan then to the BSs.
But if u read dev blogs maybe u should get answear to your question #1.
1. Will Titans be available on NPC markets or will one lucky dude become EVEs richest player with a Titan BPO?
hmmm, titans dont fit into stations, therefor it can't be build in one. Titans will prolly come into game "uncloacked" from the heart of space...who knows ? 
2. What skills are needed?
BS 5 and Jump Drive 5 ATLEAST !!! lots and lots more I think.
3. Can they dock or will players dock at them? It looks half the size of the station!
No, they can't dock, and yea, I heard somewhere that they have "cargo hold" so that ships can stay there, and then get out when threat rises....
BTW: This is what I have heard, not what I know !!! Spawn of the Devil
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Gierling
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Posted - 2005.04.07 20:50:00 -
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They will need to be constructed by the players, probably with special and expensive facilities.
I've heard the numbers bandied about indicating the Devs are looking to make the Cost in excess of a trillion isk and build time in excess of 3 months.
They want to keep the numbers of titans in player hands in the single digits, and they want to make it so that building a Titan is an arduaous and labor intensive affair which requires enormous assetts and becomes focal in military campaigns.
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Analog Communist
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Posted - 2005.04.07 20:54:00 -
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Finally! A ship fitting, in size at least, for Minmater superiority! Every Minmater knows the obligation of carrying something large between their legs with which to pleas....er, nevermind. Just tell us when they might hit TQ? :)
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Xantia Blade
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Posted - 2005.04.07 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Gierling They will need to be constructed by the players, probably with special and expensive facilities.
I've heard the numbers bandied about indicating the Devs are looking to make the Cost in excess of a trillion isk and build time in excess of 3 months.
They want to keep the numbers of titans in player hands in the single digits, and they want to make it so that building a Titan is an arduaous and labor intensive affair which requires enormous assetts and becomes focal in military campaigns.
Maybe a special drydock pos structure will need to be bought to construct and store one? I think it would be good if they take at least a couple of months to gradually build. Maybe they should be something many corps or one alliance have to invest heavily in to get.
Don't wanna see every noob and his friend in one bumping into people at Yulai gate 
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Tobiaz
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Posted - 2005.04.07 21:35:00 -
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It also comes with the optional "OMGH4X1W1N" button.
Well at least TomB's does...
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2005.04.07 22:06:00 -
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Yep, I need to buy one to make up for something else...
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slagh
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Posted - 2005.04.07 22:21:00 -
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I found it disappointingly small, lets just hope they make it bigger, and fix that armor leak. that thing blew with still 10% left of it's what, 5M armor hitpoints. ______________________________ Treasurer
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Lig Lira
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Posted - 2005.04.07 23:27:00 -
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Oveurs titan can dock, but when it undocks he gets bumped 150km away 
Which PA character are you?
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Zdragva
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Posted - 2005.04.08 00:34:00 -
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man whats the 'Pride of Hiigara' doing in a screenshot with Apocs and Megathrons?   
Anyone else notice that 'slight' resemblance?
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Dargon Starjammer
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Posted - 2005.04.08 00:49:00 -
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Edited by: Dargon Starjammer on 08/04/2005 00:50:37 i belive a they made a mention that titans can dock because stations arn't nearly the size there suposted to be plus how else are you going to fit them? by rules you can't fit unless in a station. (unless the devs have a special comand for it). also it whont be that expensive or that long mabe a few days to build and anywere from 500 million - 2 billion to purchase build. I recall that CCP originaly meant for Battle Ships to be in the single digits as well. but now just about anyone who sas the money or free time can get a Battle Ship. so i think it whont take more then 5 months for them to start being mass produced. besides titans don't have that much higher stats then a BS from what ive seen. sure they have alot more but yet they don't. plus think an alliance is going to take a realy big hit if they build one (if they have super costs and time to build)and an even bigger hit if it gets destroyed or even damaged in armor. I bet it will just have an outragouse skill requirment to fly one.
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Mr Crowley
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Posted - 2005.04.08 05:09:00 -
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Originally by: Analog Communist Finally! A ship fitting, in size at least, for Minmater superiority! Every Minmater knows the obligation of carrying something large between their legs with which to pleas....er, nevermind. Just tell us when they might hit TQ? :)
Yes, thank god for jock straps
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TheNecromancer
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Posted - 2005.04.08 05:37:00 -
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I would like to add also..I think its very small :(
I was hoping for somethink like 10x of that size.
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Kydor
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Posted - 2005.04.08 06:38:00 -
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beutiful so yet again us little guys get hit again, we will never get to fly titans, omg buhu for me, but still, devs seem to love the rich guys so hey lets throw em a party to celebrate there only chances of getting titans, get what i'm saying devs? psst, "older players deserve 1 as reward for lining your pockets for 3 years"
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Typherin laidai
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Posted - 2005.04.08 06:51:00 -
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Actually Kydor do you really think it would be fair to just make them accessable to say a 2 month old n00b ?
And ffs their not even out yet and your allready moaning. The older players in the game as you put it HAVE payed a lot more money into the game. As ive said before the real old players (beta players etc) have also put a lot of time and effort into the game and made it what it is today 
And their not 'Unaccessable' anyway ... just make yourself some isk ffs. these things arent going to be out for months.
Oh and in ye old cs talk ...
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sutty
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Posted - 2005.04.08 07:12:00 -
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3 years ? you was paying for beta unlucky for you I guess 
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Monty Burns
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Posted - 2005.04.08 07:30:00 -
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Dont think any whinging is justified really, the only thing these probably have in common with the final product we will get to fly is the name, "Titan".
And yes, atm they can dock/undock stations, at least at the fanfest it did!
Enjoy and be lucky! Darwin 4tw
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Noriath
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Posted - 2005.04.08 09:30:00 -
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That's because titans are not acctually implemented, they are just "normal" ships with extreme stats and a gigantic model...
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.04.08 09:43:00 -
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1. Will Titans be available on NPC markets or will one lucky dude become EVEs richest player with a Titan BPO?
According to the dev chat they are tech I ships, so it should be possible to get a bpo on the npc market.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.04.08 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpyn 1. Will Titans be available on NPC markets or will one lucky dude become EVEs richest player with a Titan BPO?
According to the dev chat they are tech I ships, so it should be possible to get a bpo on the npc market.
A Titan BPO should NEVER be sold on the open market.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2005.04.08 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: Gierling I've heard the numbers bandied about indicating the Devs are looking to make the Cost in excess of a trillion isk and build time in excess of 3 months.
What have u been smoking dude, trillion = 1000 billions right ? = 1,000,000,000,000? tnhat would mean that cost of titan is 10000 times BS. But still only three times the size ? 
Sorry if trillin = billion or something, I dont know this crappy system that well. But if trillion = 1000 billion there is no chance in hell titans will cost that. Spawn of the Devil
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Juniper
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Posted - 2005.04.08 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: Omniwar
Originally by: Gierling I've heard the numbers bandied about indicating the Devs are looking to make the Cost in excess of a trillion isk and build time in excess of 3 months.
What have u been smoking dude, trillion = 1000 billions right ? = 1,000,000,000,000? tnhat would mean that cost of titan is 10000 times BS. But still only three times the size ? 
Sorry if trillin = billion or something, I dont know this crappy system that well. But if trillion = 1000 billion there is no chance in hell titans will cost that.
Surely it's not a question of how big the Titan actually looks on screen that matters, but what you can do with it that counts. Having a ship that you can dock other ships in and carry them around makes it worth any amount of isk to some players.
As every good girl knows, size isn't the most important thing 
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Noriath
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Posted - 2005.04.08 10:10:00 -
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Edited by: Noriath on 08/04/2005 10:14:25 Edited by: Noriath on 08/04/2005 10:12:30
According to the Eve background in order to build a titan the minerals of an entire moon have to be mined, and the process takes several years.
So what I'm thinking is this: Building a titan should not be very costly at all, but extremly dangerous.
As we all know you can only mine moons in lowsec and 0.0, so order to build a titan you have to mine the moon there.
Also Titans cannot be built in stations, so they have to be manufactured in space. This means a titan being built is basicly like a POS.
Building a titan takes extremly long. A Month maybe...
Well, now you add up the factors. 0.0 Space, One Month...
And there we go: Titans are not costly at all, but still can only be built by large alliances that can defend the building site long enough for the titan to finish...
Oh, and... Before you tell me that is really unfair please consider that even the Amarr empire only owns 2 Titans currently, so it should NOT be posssible for any schmo with a few ISK to much to get in a titan.
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Zeromancer
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Posted - 2005.04.08 10:18:00 -
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Edited by: Zeromancer on 08/04/2005 10:18:53 Well this Titan you saw on the testserver is not the one that eventually will come to TQ.
Oveur said this on the test. Admiral Thvottagrind > this titan has no actual resemblance to what hits TQ
So i guess we have to wait.
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Mr Crowley
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Posted - 2005.04.08 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kydor beutiful so yet again us little guys get hit again, we will never get to fly titans, omg buhu for me, but still, devs seem to love the rich guys so hey lets throw em a party to celebrate there only chances of getting titans, get what i'm saying devs? psst, "older players deserve 1 as reward for lining your pockets for 3 years"
get it now?
I remember hearing the same thing when the BS was released. Would be nice to have somthing UBER in this game, so long as the gankers cant have one, because if they can they all will have one. Then we all might as well never leave the stations.
The costs posted earlier "trillions", comon, like 150billion would be hard enough to obtain. (especially when you build it as soon as people know about it you will either be a GOD or the number one target by PvPers) Three months is cool though. Its as big as a small station, hope it works like one and has facilitys like clones, repair shops, and a market would be cool to.
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2005.04.08 13:05:00 -
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Edited by: Fester Addams on 08/04/2005 13:49:59 I think it would be really funny if titans were to be built from not only 1 BP but rather a whole host of them, say one for the engine, one for the hull, one for the weaponms array, one for the thrusters...
Each BP aquired is a 1 run BPC (that way there will never be all that many titans) and can be built in a station.
All the pieces must then be hauled out into space and assembled near a moon or planet and in the right order, ie first you have to anchor the hull in space, next each part of the titan has to be fitted into the hull.
In order to make it interesting this fitting process can take quite alot of time.
There are quite a few other ways to make this process interesting such as having all parts only prefabricated in the factory and thus you have to use remote repairers, shield transferers, cap transferers and so on to bring it online.
But the real amusing thing would be if the Titan was a multiplayer ship.
Sayn the smallets titan size would need 2 players to operate as intended, say a pilot and an engineer position, each with high, med and low slots, the cap would be shared in order to make it important to comunicate :)
Multiplayer ships is such an amusing Idea that Im going to write a post on the idea forum on it, will soon edit with link to that post.
EDIT: Link to Idea forum.
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Stepping Razor
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Posted - 2005.04.08 13:56:00 -
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CCP has said many and conflicting things about all upcoming ships, and titans in particular. Who the heck knows how they plan to release them in the end? Hell, I'm pretty sure *they * don't know.
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Dargon Starjammer
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Posted - 2005.04.09 05:35:00 -
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ow a titan bpo should be on the market. it will just cost about 100 billion for it.
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Sadist
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Posted - 2005.04.09 06:29:00 -
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I agree that the titans BPO should NEVER be in the open market on sale by the NPC. Although it will be a huge isk sink, it will still ensure that titans are mass produced. Instead, they should all be faction only ships, meaning the BPC would only be available for doing something extraordinary for an agent (something like an uber-hard mission, that will NOT be beatable alone), or maybe even an event, or a timer, that makes sure that titans arent owned by an player with a billion isk. Please CCP, make the titans RARE, not like battleships, whereas you can see at least 10 of which flying around in busy systems. There has to be a way to limit the total number of them in game, otherwise, we're going to see the veteran people just switch to a bigger ship (no matter what the stupid isk cost) as soon as its BPO comes out. _______________________________________________
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Agenor Deteis
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Posted - 2005.04.09 09:17:00 -
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don't forget that the Titans hitting TQ will only be mobile STATIONS. They are not supposed to pwnd everything. If you want big guns go for a dread, they will be affordable, although i still hope CCP is going to make them rare also...
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Gabriel Karade
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Posted - 2005.04.09 09:30:00 -
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The titan model from yesterday's test was very disappointing. On the scanner it appears 4400m, and looking at the multiple megathrons parked next to it, it was barely 2.5 times the length.
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StealthNet
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Posted - 2005.04.09 09:44:00 -
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I donŠt know... I have the feeling that the titans were scaled down due to technical difficulties. At least they seemed so. _______________________________________________
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Scylla Lysander
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Posted - 2005.04.09 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Gierling They will need to be constructed by the players, probably with special and expensive facilities.
I've heard the numbers bandied about indicating the Devs are looking to make the Cost in excess of a trillion isk and build time in excess of 3 months.
They want to keep the numbers of titans in player hands in the single digits, and they want to make it so that building a Titan is an arduaous and labor intensive affair which requires enormous assetts and becomes focal in military campaigns.
This would definatly be working in with the "new world order" they have planned. The sort of people that would have one of these are the player owned empires.
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Crimsoneer
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Posted - 2005.04.09 12:56:00 -
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A simple solution so that they stay in single digits: Make them faction ships. EG: Once titans are implemented, a list of the top Corps of each empire is made. Once the list is ready, the 3 first corps get the chance to build a Titan. They can then use it. Every time the titan is destroyed, the processes is redone.
Sex, EVE, and Rock and Roll.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2005.04.09 16:29:00 -
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Edited by: Noriath on 09/04/2005 16:29:30
Sounds like a great plan, because then the only thing everyone will do all day is trying to kill off titans... And what if someone builds one, puts it in a hangar and leaves it to rust? 
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Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2005.04.09 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Crowley
Originally by: Kydor beutiful so yet again us little guys get hit again, we will never get to fly titans, omg buhu for me, but still, devs seem to love the rich guys so hey lets throw em a party to celebrate there only chances of getting titans, get what i'm saying devs? psst, "older players deserve 1 as reward for lining your pockets for 3 years"
get it now?
I remember hearing the same thing when the BS was released. Would be nice to have somthing UBER in this game, so long as the gankers cant have one, because if they can they all will have one. Then we all might as well never leave the stations.
The costs posted earlier "trillions", comon, like 150billion would be hard enough to obtain. (especially when you build it as soon as people know about it you will either be a GOD or the number one target by PvPers) Three months is cool though. Its as big as a small station, hope it works like one and has facilitys like clones, repair shops, and a market would be cool to.
yeah 3 months is a very resonable time to build 1 so i agree with that o and i herd ther gonna cost around 5billion isk
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Noriath
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Posted - 2005.04.09 16:58:00 -
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Titans are a step up from a POS, because they are a POS with guns that moves from system to system. Because of that it should not be possible at all for people to own a titan without their own chunk of space to support its operation. Ships like that should be a reward and help for people who establish their own infrastructure, not for people who just constantly try to destroy it so nobody without amazing fighting skills ever leaves Empire space.
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Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2005.04.09 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Noriath Edited by: Noriath on 09/04/2005 16:29:30
Sounds like a great plan, because then the only thing everyone will do all day is trying to kill off titans... And what if someone builds one, puts it in a hangar and leaves it to rust? 
that wont happen because as they said befor titans cannot dock
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Deepeh
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Posted - 2005.04.09 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Kydor beutiful so yet again us little guys get hit again, words
EVE is much like the real world. Unfair. :p
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ErrorS
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Posted - 2005.04.09 17:56:00 -
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I agree, why should the rich players get titans?
make them the new newb ships so everyone can try them! then us older players can have absolutely NOTHING to look forward too!
genius.. really, great idea! ________
I'm strict Caldari
"The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think?
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Noriath
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Posted - 2005.04.09 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Daniel Jackson that wont happen because as they said befor titans cannot dock
Point taken...
Still, if Titans are limited in numbers and you have to destroy them to get one the entire universe is going to be after you if you ever have one.
I think Titans should be so rare that every single one is well known, and if one is destroyed it should be a big news item...
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Admiral Seafort
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Posted - 2005.04.09 18:47:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral Seafort on 09/04/2005 18:48:41 As someone pointed out, the AMARR EMPIRE has only TWO (2) Titans. So, if anyone is of the opinion that Titans should be available to such a degree that a person or entity can own more than two without tremendous difficulty, expense, effort, and time, I would like to know which person or entity in EVE is more powerful in any way than the Amarr Empire.
Clearly the Amarr Empire is just a fictional NPC entity but I'm pretty sure that even without the random spawns there are more Amarr Empire ships in EVE space at any given moment than any Alliance, and that more ISK is moved within Amarr space than any Alliance.
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Disphforia
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Posted - 2005.04.09 19:27:00 -
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You're all a bunch of whiners.. cmon.. Will you ever be satisfied?
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Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2005.04.09 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Xantia Blade Edited by: Xantia Blade on 07/04/2005 20:38:22
TITAN
OMG that Titan is HUGE!!! Look at all the little battleships around it like flies!!
This is from todays little test where a dev asked people to shoot at him to test lag stuff. There was about 50 ships and 100 drones swarming him.
I'll prolly never be rich enough to buy one but just a few questions!
1. Will Titans be available on NPC markets or will one lucky dude become EVEs richest player with a Titan BPO? 2. What skills are needed? 3. Can they dock or will players dock at them? It looks half the size of the station!
Woot im excited!     
and man i missed the titan shootoff cause 14:00 GMT is 10:00 AM my time and so i was at school man thats sucks
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Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2005.04.09 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Xantia Blade Edited by: Xantia Blade on 07/04/2005 20:38:22
TITAN
OMG that Titan is HUGE!!! Look at all the little battleships around it like flies!!
This is from todays little test where a dev asked people to shoot at him to test lag stuff. There was about 50 ships and 100 drones swarming him.
I'll prolly never be rich enough to buy one but just a few questions!
1. Will Titans be available on NPC markets or will one lucky dude become EVEs richest player with a Titan BPO? 2. What skills are needed? 3. Can they dock or will players dock at them? It looks half the size of the station!
Woot im excited!     
i hope someone video taped or made a video of it cause it was at 10:00 AM my time when it happend so iu was at school
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Dargon Starjammer
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Posted - 2005.04.09 23:50:00 -
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Edited by: Dargon Starjammer on 09/04/2005 23:50:58 you know i know this seems to have gone to make titans so only a few of the super olf players can have them. your whining now that only a select few should have them. i bet if they are far and few between most of you will starts whinning that theres not enough of them once they are released.
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Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2005.04.10 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dargon Starjammer Edited by: Dargon Starjammer on 09/04/2005 23:50:58 you know i know this seems to have gone to make titans so only a few of the super olf players can have them. your whining now that only a select few should have them. i bet if they are far and few between most of you will starts whinning that theres not enough of them once they are released.
well ive been playing since Augest 6th 2003 so i guess that makes me an old player since ive been playing for almost 2 years with out brakes
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ErrorS
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Posted - 2005.04.10 02:39:00 -
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I don't think old players should have them.. I think old, large, rich corperations and alliances should have .. them..
In my alliance I hope to see the alliance 'ceo' with one, I would like to see our military devision have one.. and that's it. You know, an important asset that you're proud to own and you get scared to lose.. but something useful enough that it can be a great ship to have at your side or in whatever system you're in.
they should in every right be a moble POS that costs a bit more (maybe 2x's the price). Any large corperation or alliance would hate losing a POS in-game.. you put a lot of time, work and heart into it. Titans should be the same way.. lots of work, isk, time..
hopefully they'll be as strong as a POS with 8 large XL guns. Guns should be as expensive and as big (volume) as XL guns on a POS. Cargo space of an industrial ship.
The ultimate fleet (ratio of ships)
1 Titan 2 Dreadnaughts 5 Carriers 20 battleships 50 Cruisers 100 Frigates
I'm hoping the Titan ends up the jack of all trades of ships. I hope CCP allows it to have more then 8 high slots.. mix with xl, large, medium and small guns.. totally self sufficient but so damn expensive and worth so much in time and isk that noone would risk flying alone. A ship that would be flown by only the most trusted alliance members.
10 battleships should NOT be able to gank it.. however, if the titan is attacked by 10 battleships it should have enough time for reinforcements to reach it. It should struggle with taking all 10 out.. not in a "i'm gonna die!" kinda way.. but a "Ok, i'm being attacked. All people within 5 jumps move into my position" kinda way. Like if a group of 10 BSs attacked a POS maybe.
I dunno what I'm thinking.. still looking for that single asset of a corperation/alliance that would give it the edge over another.. but would really hurt the corp/alliance if it gets destroyed. I'm thinking about how cool it would be for my allinace to set up large fleets to go into an enemy's space to attack their titan.. knowing they're going to lose ships in the process but in the end it being worth it. ________
I'm strict Caldari
"The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think?
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