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Khergit Deserters
Gallente Federation
175
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Posted - 2012.11.06 16:30:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:Anslo wrote:No, he doesn't have that right. If he was just bumping bots, REAL bots, I might have joined is merry band of tight wearing bumpers in feathered caps.
But no, he used this bot-aspirant crap to dictate that anyone mining wants to be a bot. Of course he has the right to do it. Your joining our 'merry band' has no relevance as to whether or not we're allowed to bump whom we please. And besides, can you really deny that mining, as a profession, is the first step on the road to becoming a bot? Even if you interact with the game while mining, you're certainly not interacting with your 'roid once you've targeted it and started your lasers. ... Kids, just say no to AFK mining. It leads to harder things. Like bot mining. And it can you get you in trouble with the law... er, the bumpgeoisie. |
Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
33
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Posted - 2012.11.06 16:35:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:Kids, just say no to AFK mining. It leads to harder things. Like bot mining. And it can you get you in trouble with the law... er, the bumpgeoisie. You're exactly right! Although your use of juvenile portmantitles did kind of diminish that effect.
You might also want to consider that removing the 'AFK' would make it mean more. I mean, AFK Mining is like Ecstasy while bot mining is crack *******, but the true gateway drug (cannabis) would be mining in any form.
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Tallian Saotome
Papercut Syndicate
851
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Posted - 2012.11.06 17:06:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Kids, just say no to AFK mining. It leads to harder things. Like bot mining. And it can you get you in trouble with the law... er, the bumpgeoisie. You're exactly right! Although your use of juvenile portmantitles did kind of diminish that effect. You might also want to consider that removing the 'AFK' would make it mean more. I mean, AFK Mining is like Ecstasy while bot mining is crack *******, but the true gateway drug (cannabis) would be mining in any form. Hey hey hey, they have disproven the gateway drug theory about pot.
At least make sure your crackpot theories are current, sheesh.
:tinfoil:
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Jonah Gravenstein
Holistic Materials Research Council
2846
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Posted - 2012.11.06 17:25:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:If it goes that way, I have a fair idea of who is going to come out on the worse side. The miners have a greater tendency to all be in the same corporation, so one wardec = more targets. The PvP players and mercs are, in general, morally on the side of James 315. The miner bumpers are far more likely to have the tools for ganking than the miners are. And finally, any list of miners is bound to have a greater audience, due to the fact that www.MinerBumping.com is much better known than the Proveldtariat blog.
I concur with your assessment on who will come off worse, It would generate enough tears to form a whole new icebelt, unless of course all those miners who claim to be alts of PvP characters are actually telling the truth. Either way it would be glorious to see that much stuff exploded in hisec because some people refused to pay for a mining permit.
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Khergit Deserters
Gallente Federation
176
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Posted - 2012.11.06 17:34:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Kids, just say no to AFK mining. It leads to harder things. Like bot mining. And it can you get you in trouble with the law... er, the bumpgeoisie. You're exactly right! Although your use of juvenile portmantitles did kind of diminish that effect. You might also want to consider that removing the 'AFK' would make it mean more. I mean, AFK Mining is like Ecstasy while bot mining is crack *******, but the true gateway drug (cannabis) would be mining in any form. Hey hey hey, they have disproven the gateway drug theory about pot. At least make sure your crackpot theories are current, sheesh. :tinfoil: That post was just a 'juvenile portmantitle', whatever that is. Didn't you guys notice a slightly trollish stink on that post? |
Jonah Gravenstein
Holistic Materials Research Council
2846
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Posted - 2012.11.06 17:38:00 -
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The word is portmanteau, it's the use of two words to make a new one. Spork is a good example, it's the combination of spoon and fork in both language and physical form. -á-áThe Likes & Get Likes Thread Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum -á-á-á ---CCP can't patch stupid--- |
Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
34
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Posted - 2012.11.06 17:48:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:The word is portmanteau, it's the use of two words to make a new one. Spork is a good example, it's the combination of spoon and fork in both language and physical form. Another example is 'chortle' which is a combination of 'snort' and 'chuckle' (it was coined by Lewis Carroll in his poem The Jabberwock).
Khergit Deserters wrote:That post was just a 'juvenile portmantitle', whatever that is. Didn't you guys notice a slightly trollish stink on that post? In future, I don't recommend using a word to describe something and then following it with 'whatever that is'. It significantly increases your chances of making no sense at all.
As Jonah said, the correct word would be 'portmanteau', and my word (portmantitle) was a portmanteau of 'portmanteau' and 'title', because of your use of 'bumpgeoisie', which is a portmanteau of 'bumper' and 'bourgeoisie'.
I hope that clears that up.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Holistic Materials Research Council
2849
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Posted - 2012.11.06 17:56:00 -
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Today in GD, people learnt some French -á-áThe Likes & Get Likes Thread Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum -á-á-á ---CCP can't patch stupid--- |
Khergit Deserters
Gallente Federation
177
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Posted - 2012.11.06 18:49:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:The word is portmanteau, it's the use of two words to make a new one. Spork is a good example, it's the combination of spoon and fork in both language and physical form. Another example is 'chortle' which is a combination of 'snort' and 'chuckle' (it was coined by Lewis Carroll in his poem The Jabberwock). Khergit Deserters wrote:That post was just a 'juvenile portmantitle', whatever that is. Didn't you guys notice a slightly trollish stink on that post? In future, I don't recommend using a word to describe something and then following it with 'whatever that is'. It significantly increases your chances of making no sense at all. As Jonah said, the correct word would be 'portmanteau', and my word (portmantitle) was a portmanteau of 'portmanteau' and 'title', because of your use of 'bumpgeoisie', which is a portmanteau of 'bumper' and 'bourgeoisie'. I hope that clears that up. Thank you sir, I know what a portmanteau is. And now, I suggest that you and your portmantitle stop suggesting things. |
Romvex
126
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Posted - 2012.11.06 19:02:00 -
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this is some of the best player created content i have seen in a while. let the meta war begin Post with your main |
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Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
36
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Posted - 2012.11.06 19:11:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:Thank you sir, I know what a portmanteau is. And now, I suggest that you and your portmantitle stop suggesting things. Nice edit. I preferred the first iteration though.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
5416
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Posted - 2012.11.06 19:29:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Natasha Liao wrote:Tallian Saotome wrote:Anslo wrote: As for Chribba, of course he isn't the founder. He's too busy being Chribba and manly, whilst swimming in a frozen lake fighting ice dragons and eating their flesh over an open fire with a mug of Meade...
Chribba fanfics..... Please tell me thats not the scene where he is visited by Batman, Robin, and The Mittani for a massive orgy. Chribba slash fiction ... please tell me I'm not the only one who finds this disturbing. On many levels... It's actually not a fan fic at all. Check his twitter. The guy goes swimming in freezing temperatures in a near frozen lake. Gotta have respect for that Normal viking days.
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Khergit Deserters
Gallente Federation
178
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Posted - 2012.11.06 19:38:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Thank you sir, I know what a portmanteau is. And now, I suggest that you and your portmantitle stop suggesting things. Nice edit. I preferred the first iteration though. Came here planning to edit it again and say, "Edit: Smartass comment deleted." Anyway, carry on.... |
NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
32
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Posted - 2012.11.06 21:14:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Natasha Liao wrote:Tallian Saotome wrote:Anslo wrote: As for Chribba, of course he isn't the founder. He's too busy being Chribba and manly, whilst swimming in a frozen lake fighting ice dragons and eating their flesh over an open fire with a mug of Meade...
Chribba fanfics..... Please tell me thats not the scene where he is visited by Batman, Robin, and The Mittani for a massive orgy. Chribba slash fiction ... please tell me I'm not the only one who finds this disturbing. On many levels... It's actually not a fan fic at all. Check his twitter. The guy goes swimming in freezing temperatures in a near frozen lake. Gotta have respect for that Not once the clothes are off.
So will this involve quotas? Or shall all be free to mine as they please with those in abundance giving to those less so? |
Anslo
BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance
511
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Posted - 2012.11.06 21:20:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote: Not once the clothes are off.
So will this involve quotas? Or shall all be free to mine as they please with those in abundance giving to those less so?
I'm sorry if I don't quite understand...are you asking how miners function during this?
If that's the case, they can do whatever they want. All they have to do is resist the bumpers. They don't have to give anything or pay for protection or whatever. That defeats the purpose. If miners choose to help other miners in different way, that's great! It show's a unified front against these extortionists.
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Jeremy Soikutsu
Homeworld Republic Intrepid Crossing
6
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Posted - 2012.11.06 21:23:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote: In one case your interacting with PEOPLE
Irrelevant, the mechanics by which a bot is achieving it's goal is what makes it a bot, not what it's goal is.
Jenn aSide wrote: and taking actions to will help the economy of the game by removing materials/ships (either yours or the ship of the person your FC called primary)), in the other, you ain't (your just adding yet more material into an over-stuffed game market).
Sophism, I believe the kids call this. I think the most important wrong part of this is the fact that the low-end market is still underserved right now, and even if it wasn't ships don't get built without mins so it's pretty dumb to brush off such a large chunk of of the "Eve lifecycle" like that. |
Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
36
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Posted - 2012.11.06 21:32:00 -
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Anslo wrote:I'm sorry if I don't quite understand...are you asking how miners function during this?
If that's the case, they can do whatever they want. All they have to do is resist the bumpers. They don't have to give anything or pay for protection or whatever. That defeats the purpose. If miners choose to help other miners in different way, that's great! It show's a unified front against these extortionists.
The term 'proletariat', while being Latin in origin, has come to be associated with ideas like communism and socialism - partly because of the term 'proles' being used in George Orwell's 1984, and partly because Marx himself used it extensively (along with bourgeoisie, and yes, 'bumpgeois' should have an 'ie' on the end).
Basically, he's making a communism joke out of the fact that you chose Marxist terms as the basis of your blog.
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Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
56
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Posted - 2012.11.06 21:34:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:Basically, he's making a communism joke out of the fact that you chose Marxist terms as the basis of your blog. If the joke has to be explained to Anslo, it has served its purpose. |
Anslo
BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance
511
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Posted - 2012.11.06 21:38:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote: The term 'proletariat', while being Latin in origin, has come to be associated with ideas like communism and socialism - partly because of the term 'proles' being used in George Orwell's 1984, and partly because Marx himself used it extensively (along with bourgeoisie, and yes, 'bumpgeois' should have an 'ie' on the end).
Basically, he's making a communism joke out of the fact that you chose Marxist terms as the basis of your blog.
Hmm, interesting! Nice
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Shamus O'Reilly
I Know Right
1
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Posted - 2012.11.06 22:05:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Bravo.
Posting in a thread that isn't a whine thread.
Perhaps, after Retribution, you could turn this into a charity. Rich sadistic bastards could put bounties on people using active characters for bumping. Mercs could use the page to know which corps to wardec to get the bounties. Marvellous.
And then said mercs get decshielded mercilessly into an endless annoying pointless war... |
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Natasha Liao
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
33
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Posted - 2012.11.06 22:23:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:Thank you sir, I know what a portmanteau is. And now, I suggest that you and your portmantitle stop suggesting things. And he was just showing off that he knew ( or could at least work Google ). Why does this always have to be about you?...
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Lady Capa
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.11.07 01:38:00 -
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Angel Violette wrote:It is good to see the New Order finally having an effect on these miners ! they're actually talking about resistance! this is what the New order tries to encourage these miners to do ! Leave your Bot aspiring ways and FIGHT! Im sure James will love to hear that his plan is begining to bear fruit.
Hail THE NEW ORDER and long live James 315!!
I was for this when it was against bots but when it turned into extortion it was just another annoying thing that eve does. sadly this won't effect bots bottom line so will not have any impact on ore prices or the amount of bots you see in the betls. the miners it does effect is minimal, just the ones who have no idea how to handle bumping.
I find it strange that null/low sec is so boring that highsec gets so much attention. If this is the best player driven content that eve can muster then we truly are on our last legs. |
Kaylyis
Line Ark Security Armaments LockJaw Inc.
40
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Posted - 2012.11.07 08:57:00 -
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I'll care about this when you start killing bumpers.
Its easy. do what the gankers do. fit a ship. have yer buddies lock target. fire. kill them. get concordukkened.
Its not hurting your bottom line, it's sending a message.
Past that? Wardecs.
Good hunting |
Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
37
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Posted - 2012.11.07 09:51:00 -
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Lady Capa wrote:I was for this when it was against bots but when it turned into extortion it was just another annoying thing that eve does. sadly this won't effect bots bottom line so will not have any impact on ore prices or the amount of bots you see in the betls. the miners it does effect is minimal, just the ones who have no idea how to handle bumping. I'm not sure how the fact that we target real miners as well as bots changes the effect that we have on bots.
And as for your ways to 'handle bumping', I'm sure the miners would love it if you could share them. I mean, they've tried some, but none of them seem to have an awful lot of effect.
Lady Capa wrote:I find it strange that null/low sec is so boring that highsec gets so much attention. If this is the best player driven content that eve can muster then we truly are on our last legs. :D :D :D EVE is dying :D
Kaylyis wrote:I'll care about this when you start killing bumpers.
Its easy. do what the gankers do. fit a ship. have yer buddies lock target. fire. kill them. get concordukkened.
Its not hurting your bottom line, it's sending a message.
Past that? Wardecs.
Good hunting It'd be nice to see this, but the main issue is that in terms of ganking, 'get concordukkened.' comes before 'kill them.' for most miners. Also Stabbers are expendable.
And as for wardecs, very few Agents are in the same corp. James 315 has won every war that he's had declared against him, and it'd be very costly to dec more than a couple of other agents. Besides, mining corps do not want a foreverwar with decshield.
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Anslo
BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance
513
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Posted - 2012.11.07 16:13:00 -
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Lady Capa wrote:
I was for this when it was against bots but when it turned into extortion it was just another annoying thing that eve does. sadly this won't effect bots bottom line so will not have any impact on ore prices or the amount of bots you see in the betls. the miners it does effect is minimal, just the ones who have no idea how to handle bumping.
I find it strange that null/low sec is so boring that highsec gets so much attention. If this is the best player driven content that eve can muster then we truly are on our last legs.
Interesting isn't it? Luckily they don't all think that way
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
378
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Posted - 2012.11.07 16:51:00 -
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Lady Capa wrote:Angel Violette wrote:It is good to see the New Order finally having an effect on these miners ! they're actually talking about resistance! this is what the New order tries to encourage these miners to do ! Leave your Bot aspiring ways and FIGHT! Im sure James will love to hear that his plan is begining to bear fruit.
Hail THE NEW ORDER and long live James 315!! I was for this when it was against bots but when it turned into extortion it was just another annoying thing that eve does. sadly this won't effect bots bottom line so will not have any impact on ore prices or the amount of bots you see in the betls. the miners it does effect is minimal, just the ones who have no idea how to handle bumping. I find it strange that null/low sec is so boring that highsec gets so much attention. If this is the best player driven content that eve can muster then we truly are on our last legs.
An example of the bad "black and white" thinking that leads to terrible logic failures. It's asking the question "why can't they just leave other people alone".. The answer to that is because "you're playing EVE" lol. Sandbox MMOs aren't about leaving people alone although many people do, it's about interactions of various kinds and if you don't like interaction, there are LOADS of single player PC and console games you can and should be playing.
In this case it's the idea that null sec must be boring if "null sec people" are spending time messing with high sec people (with a sprinkle of EVE is dying" thrown in for effect lol.
You can go right now to DOTLAN and see loads of activity in null sec. The people doing things in high sec are not necessarily null sec people, but if they are you have no way of knowing if they are dual boxing or not, they could be playing in null sec WHILE bumping a miner lol. The actions of a few people in high sec isn't any kind of indication on how much fun people are or are not having in high sec
People have been screwing with people in high sec since the 1st day of high sec, because that's what people in EVE do, they try to elicit "tears" from other people, and the lone wolf solo miner types are some of the best Tear Targets. Stop being a Tear Target and watch people stop doing things like this.
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Anslo
BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance
516
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Posted - 2012.11.07 17:36:00 -
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Or continue to mine and play as you want as it's a game and you can have fun your way without having people you don't want to deal with bother you!
The Proveldtariat website is always looking for new ways to help miners/missioners/"carebears" play the game their way
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Dervinus
SniggWaffe
97
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Posted - 2012.11.07 17:55:00 -
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One day I hope I can figure out whose alt Torvin is. His posting is far too epic to be anything but the work of a master. o7 toonies |
Khergit Deserters
Gallente Federation
179
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Posted - 2012.11.07 17:57:00 -
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The proveldtariat, as the conscious exponent of the mining-class movement, aims at the complete liberation of the toiling miners from every form of oppression and exploitation. The achievement of this objectiveGÇöthe abolition of bumping in the belts and the creation of an undisturbed mining societyGÇöcalls for a very high development of the productive forces of all miners and a high degree of organization of the mining class. Therefore, one of the tasks of the proveldtariat is to prod the miners on, to raise before the whole people slogans calling for a complete revolution, to start working boldly and independently for the realization of these slogansGÇöin a word, to be the vanguard, to take the lead in the struggle for the liberty of the whole of minerdom.
To this end, I will pledge a contribution of 100mil ISK to the furtherance of the struggle against the oppressive Bumpist and Gankist systems. Patriots of the proveldtariot, who will match my pledge? You? How about you over there? |
Anslo
BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance
516
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Posted - 2012.11.07 17:59:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:The proveldtariat, as the conscious exponent of the mining-class movement, aims at the complete liberation of the toiling miners from every form of oppression and exploitation. The achievement of this objectiveGÇöthe abolition of bumping in the belts and the creation of an undisturbed mining societyGÇöcalls for a very high development of the productive forces of all miners and a high degree of organization of the mining class. Therefore, one of the tasks of the proveldtariat is to prod the miners on, to raise before the whole people slogans calling for a complete revolution, to start working boldly and independently for the realization of these slogansGÇöin a word, to be the vanguard, to take the lead in the struggle for the liberty of the whole of minerdom.
To this end, I will pledge a contribution of 100mil ISK to the furtherance of the struggle against the oppressive Bumpist and Gankist systems. Patriots of the proveldtariot, who will match my pledge? You? How about you over there?
That has to be the most educated and eloquent summation of our goals yet Bravo sir! And thank you for the contribution! It will be put to hard work to defend the Proveldtariat.
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