Why is there no Manifesto on that Site? How can you compete with the New Order if you have no Manifesto?

The Proveldtariat website is always looking for new ways to help miners/missioners/"carebears" play the game their way

It'll be interesting when you guys come to the conclusion that one of the best ways to help yourself play EVE is to pay attention to the game.

Did you mean proletariat?

Do you know what that word means?

Not really, not being afk is merely an action against those who would infringe on how we choose to play. If it means we need to sit at the computer and fight, then we'll do it. If we have to show you bumpers, griefers, bitter vets, and whatever have you that carebears actually have teeth and claws which can be used in a variety of ways, then we'll do it. With extreme prejudice.

After which we will promptly return to afk mining

If we have to show you bumpers, griefers, bitter vets, and whatever have you that carebears actually have teeth and claws

If carebears actually had teeth and claws and whatnot, they wouldn't be carebears. vOv

The Proveldtariat website is always looking for new ways to help miners/missioners/"carebears" play the game their way

Bring it.

People have been talking about carebear teeth and claws for years, yet the miners continue to whine, and the few who do man up and pvp end up leaving their carebear ways behind because they have found out that actually playing is actually FUN.

How do I report myself as a bumper on your website?

I see a lot of pie-in-the-sky posturing on http://proveldtariat.wordpress.com/ but, much like a certain ex-presidential candidate, you seem a little short on actual 'plans'. Where's the business model? Action items? Bullet points even! I sense a scam of minor proportions in the making here...

Those weren't true, professional miners. Just amateurs. Dabblers. Dilettantes. Ham and eggers.

I've never understood the intense hatred for miners. These poor, misguided people have chosen to do the most boring thing in all of eve. We should pity them, not bump them.

It is a bit like making fun of the homeless as you drive by. Sure you could, but why bother?

You're making a list, huh?
Are you checking it twice?
Gonna find out who's naughty or nice?

Will you know when we are AFK? Will you know when we're ATK?
I think you'll find if we've been bad or good,
It's not like we've tried to hide.


Anyway, you do realize that all the methods you published on your website are the things the bumpers have been telling you to do for months? In much the same way suicide gankers were telling you how to avoid them and profit from the high prices they promoted.

Oh, and there are 100% effective methods to counter gankers and bumpers (you listed some, even). They just require effort, which is why miners kept trying to dismiss them out of hand.

Good job finally starting to adapt to changing circumstances. It only took 9 months. Congratulations.

Now why would I highlight a plan to resist an organization for them to adapt? That's like entering a 1v1 tournament and telling your opponent the week before what you plan to fit! Come on now tsktsk.

Except that you're not telling your own team either. Good job on that.

You're making a list, huh?
Are you checking it twice?
Gonna find out who's naughty or nice?

Will you know when we are AFK? Will you know when we're ATK?
I think you'll find if we've been bad or good,
It's not like we've tried to hide.


Anyway, you do realize that all the methods you published on your website are the things the bumpers have been telling you to do for months? In much the same way suicide gankers were telling you how to avoid them and profit from the high prices they promoted.

Oh, and there are 100% effective methods to counter gankers and bumpers (you listed some, even). They just require effort, which is why miners kept trying to dismiss them out of hand.

Good job finally starting to adapt to changing circumstances. It only took 9 months. Congratulations.

Anslo, I would recommend that you recheck your data, your bumper database lists this character as a bumper with a 100mn mwd fleet stabber, this is inaccurate, I am merely a shareholder of the New Order, have never bumped and don't even own a fleet stabber.

If you can find a miner that claims to have been bumped by myself please forward their names to me, I will make sure that I fulfil their desire to have been bumped by me.

Please learn to datamine properly and not make assumptions.

I would leave a comment on your database page, but I'll be damned if I'm signing up for a wordpress account or using my email address to do so. Also you have mail.

Except that you're not telling your own team either. Good job on that.

Anslo, I would recommend that you recheck your data, your bumper database lists this character as a bumper with a 100mn mwd fleet stabber, this is inaccurate, I am merely a shareholder of the New Order, have never bumped and don't even own a fleet stabber.