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Righteous Fury	Posted - 2005.04.12 23:50:00 - [1] I'm absolutely sick of finding your little 'suprises' on my snip ships every time theres a new patch. Thanks for letting us know you changed ALL the pulses, instead of just megapulse, and you changed the hybrid ammo ranges, among other numerous things (that for the sake of being concise I'll leave out). Just ffs, give us a full patchnotes instead of throwing crap at us and saying 'suprise!' snip Edited out profanity and inappropriate content -Abdalion
Parallax Error	Posted - 2005.04.12 23:51:00 - [2] And the T2 armour reppers getting an increase in CPU usage.. my Sacrilige loved that one.
Selim	Posted - 2005.04.12 23:53:00 - [3] Stealth nerfs ******* suck.
SLIM	Posted - 2005.04.12 23:55:00 - [4] Also, nice that they nerfed pulse range 38%, not 28% like advertised. ---------------------------
Leno	Posted - 2005.04.12 23:56:00 - [5] /me rubs his 1400s and you laughed at me when i bought my tempest!!!!!!!!! --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
Righteous Fury	Posted - 2005.04.13 00:07:00 - [6] Originally by: Leno /me rubs his 1400s and you laughed at me when i bought my tempest!!!!!!!!! I wish I'd bought one now, heh. While my Deimos wasn't affected too much with the changes, all my amarr ships are toast and I'm gonna have to redo the setups.
Antic	Posted - 2005.04.13 00:08:00 - [7] guess i have to do sweet love to my raven while it has some use :P next patch its all over.
Valerien	Posted - 2005.04.13 00:14:00 - [8] holy crap you're right about hybrid ammo changes... Now antimatter, plutonium and uranium all have -50% range penalty and take up alot of cap and do alot of damage Iridium, tungsten and iron all have +50% range penalties Lead and Thorium in the middle with no bonus/penalty to range plus, damage types moved around alot except for antimatter and iron i think
Blacklight	Posted - 2005.04.13 00:19:00 - [9] Stealth nerfs 4tl Eve Blacklight Style
ollobrains	Posted - 2005.04.13 00:22:00 - [10] Lol the ammo changes are good news as i use rails quite a bit might ajust strategy but a few lasers as well should help

kieron	Posted - 2005.04.13 00:24:00 - [11] The omissions in the patch notes are being looked into and will be added ASAP. Apologies for those affected by the lack of complete notes. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online
Cheim	Posted - 2005.04.13 00:27:00 - [12] Originally by: Righteous Fury Thanks for letting us know you changed ALL the pulses, instead of just megapulse ... Originally by: Patch Notes Pulse Lasers have been decreased in Optimal Range. There you go. Now, the ammo changes aren't in the patchnotes. I think they weren't supposed to go in; Oveur said he wanted more testing on them, and looking at hybrid ammo, large and medium were changed but small was not.
Babs Johnson	Posted - 2005.04.13 00:42:00 - [13] Here's a nerf that wasn't mentioned in the notes: The menu item "Open Cargo" doesn't appear in the context menu until you are actually within 1500m of a loot can. You never could open a can farther out than 1500m but you could at least anticipate a bit. Now, the already tedious chore of collecting loot cans after a mission has been rendered even more tedious. I truly cannot fathom why the devs would spend time and other resources to nerf opening loot cans.
CCP Hammer	Posted - 2005.04.13 00:43:00 - [14] Hybrid ammo isn't supposed to be changed. That will get fixed ASAP.
Righteous Fury	Posted - 2005.04.13 00:44:00 - [15] Thank you Hammer/Kieron for your quick reponses.
SLIM	Posted - 2005.04.13 00:52:00 - [16] Hammer, I think you overnerfed Heavy pulses by accident. Mega pulses were reduced by 28% like advertised, but my heavies seem like they were reduced by a good 35%. Any other zealot users find similar results? ---------------------------
CCP Hammer	Posted - 2005.04.13 00:53:00 - [17] Originally by: Righteous Fury Thank you Hammer/Kieron for your quick reponses. We're just lucky I'm at work at 1am stressing over anything that might be wrong with the patch.
kieron	Posted - 2005.04.13 00:55:00 - [18] I suppose I have it a bit easier. It's just now approaching 1800 for me. Still a long day in front of the computer, but not as long as it has been for the Devs working on the patch issues. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online
MOOstradamus	Posted - 2005.04.13 00:57:00 - [19] /me likes secret 'Easter Eggs' especially those that don't really affect me ... MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
CCP Hammer	Posted - 2005.04.13 01:06:00 - [20] Originally by: SLIM Hammer, I think you overnerfed Heavy pulses by accident. Mega pulses were reduced by 28% like advertised, but my heavies seem like they were reduced by a good 35%. Any other zealot users find similar results? They shouldn't be "overnerfed". If you can give me some hard numbers I'll check it out. Maybe you're looking at it with crystals included? Medium Pulse I went from 7000 m to 5000 m and Heavy Pulse I went from 14000 m to 10000 m. Check the gun unfitted. The old stats are still here until t20 updates the site: Item DB

t20	Posted - 2005.04.13 01:10:00 - [21] which should be soonÖ
BIRDofPREY	Posted - 2005.04.13 01:12:00 - [22] Originally by: kieron I suppose I have it a bit easier. It's just now approaching 1800 for me. Still a long day in front of the computer, but not as long as it has been for the Devs working on the patch issues. My mamma always said " you make a mess, you clean up the mess" Your 650mm Artillery Cannon I perfectly strikes Serpentis Guard, wrecking for 340.0 damage
SLIM	Posted - 2005.04.13 01:15:00 - [23] Edited by: SLIM on 13/04/2005 01:16:32 Originally by: CCP Hammer Originally by: SLIM Hammer, I think you overnerfed Heavy pulses by accident. Mega pulses were reduced by 28% like advertised, but my heavies seem like they were reduced by a good 35%. Any other zealot users find similar results? They shouldn't be "overnerfed". If you can give me some hard numbers I'll check it out. Maybe you're looking at it with crystals included? Medium Pulse I went from 7000 m to 5000 m and Heavy Pulse I went from 14000 m to 10000 m. Check the gun unfitted. The old stats are still here until t20 updates the site: Item DB Yea, I am looking at with crystals and fitted, but that is how one actually fights, so that was my main interest. However, I think it's a rounding thing. Checking various crystal fits, it ranges anywhere from 29-37% nerf, so I think it's just a display thing. The worst is the 37, but that's on multis, so a rounding thing could definitely throw it out of whack easily. The actual nerf is probably just as advertised. Sorry for jumping to conclusions :/ Well, no matter what, glad I trained beam spec to IV as well. ---------------------------
Selim	Posted - 2005.04.13 01:23:00 - [24] I thought the hybrid/projectile ammo changes werent going through?
Gierling	Posted - 2005.04.13 01:32:00 - [25] Just playing around with it though Hammer, I do think this revision is better then the last one you were toying with. Iridium having a kinetic bias as a long range ammo kinda evens everything out. Bastards we are lest Bastards we become.
ErrorS	Posted - 2005.04.13 03:32:00 - [26] aww.. bad news on the hybrid ammo changes. I was so excited when I had seen that you had changed it. Oh well, maybe in the future. ________ I'm strict Caldari "The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think? -ErrorS
ErrorS	Posted - 2005.04.13 03:36:00 - [27] higher CPU for t2 shield boosters as well. Just means I can't use my second medium pulse until I finish weapon upgrades 5 in 30hours :\ ________ I'm strict Caldari "The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think? -ErrorS
Selim	Posted - 2005.04.13 03:38:00 - [28] Devs love to nerf minmatar when it comes to shield tanking huh?
Valerien	Posted - 2005.04.13 03:40:00 - [29] Edited by: Valerien on 13/04/2005 03:41:29 heh, how'd those ammo changes slip in then? Someone got a little too trigger happy with the "Check In" action in SourceSafe? edit: BTW some other things i noticed that I don't recall being in the patch notes: -throwing items into station containers no longer locks them by default -station containers remember their sort order -when you warp to deadspace location you land right on top of it instead of 15km away
Allen Deckard	Posted - 2005.04.13 03:46:00 - [30] Edited by: Allen Deckard on 13/04/2005 03:47:00 um to tiard to fully look at it but either my raven got it's cpu reduced or my launchers got their cpu usage increased. cause I can't fit all of them now. oops just read a bit more is probably the t2 shield booster cpu usage 2 more days of training will fix it but would have been nice to know ahead so I could have had it trained.



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