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Joan Smith
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Posted - 2005.04.14 10:07:00 -
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CCP only didnt nerf the mega pulse the nerf nearly everyhting, i dont see why they called it pulse nerf should be called amarr nerf
not only the range of pulse are dorped, every gun damge is also down
mega pulse now after 30km hit like med guns 
it funny to see long range rat tanking u.. taking over 5 minute to kill 1
and they expect us to use mega beams ....try fitung 7 mega beam with a good tank
since u started changing thing now i like to see mega beam pg to go down!!
i sick of ccp missing aroud with things that everyone is use to....
not changing anything will make a little plp ****ed of but, changing thing make a whole lot of plp ****ed
i love this game like everyone else but when i get on to my amarr ship and seeing the damge it make me feel like crying, im realy sick of it
Topic edited, please do not use all caps - Wrangler
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Verone
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Posted - 2005.04.14 10:10:00 -
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Calm down dear, it's only a battleship.
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.04.14 10:17:00 -
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Dear CCP,
I find it unfair that I can no longer use my overpowered mega pulse lasers as they are now not the uber weapon they once were.
Further to this, I am dissapointed to see that I am unable to use a full set of mega beam lasers and maintain an unbreakable tank.
I feel that the Amarr are being put on a par with all the other races and our unquestionable superiority is being, well, questioned.
Please do something to make our ships unbalanced again, otherwise I will be forced to adapt.
Yours,
A Whiner.
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.04.14 10:17:00 -
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so u cant do blaster damage at 30km anymore? boohoosux2bu.
so u cant fit a full rack of long range turrets on ur tier 1 BS? boohoosux2bu
try fitting 6x425 rails on domi or 4x1400 and launchers on a typhoon. This game isnt simply take ship, stick biggest/best turrets on, stick tank on, go out and kill stuff. Sometimes you do actually have to think about what ur fitting and how ur gonna fit, the pros and cons of each fit etc.
Jesus grow a brain please 
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steaIth
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Posted - 2005.04.14 10:22:00 -
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 Originally by: Avon
Dear CCP,
I find it unfair that I can no longer use my overpowered mega pulse lasers as they are now not the uber weapon they once were.
Further to this, I am dissapointed to see that I am unable to use a full set of mega beam lasers and maintain an unbreakable tank.
I feel that the Amarr are being put on a par with all the other races and our unquestionable superiority is being, well, questioned.
Please do something to make our ships unbalanced again, otherwise I will be forced to adapt.
Yours,
A Whiner.
LMAO 
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ollobrains
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Posted - 2005.04.14 10:28:00 -
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you think amarr is bad try gallente lol - oh ewll i think things are a bit more balanced actually and a bit harder on some missions and easier on others.
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chillz
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Posted - 2005.04.14 10:31:00 -
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Mega Pulses now work as intended. Get to 30Km and fry.
I've found that microwave is a better as 'long' range ammo for pulses rather than radio now. You have to get a little closer to the rats but that's what the tank is there for.
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Garia666
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Posted - 2005.04.14 10:37:00 -
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Edited by: Garia666 on 14/04/2005 10:37:29
Your absolutly right, where now like the minmatar. And thats not even The bad news. where way more ugly..
The only thing to do now is whine on caldari cause there way overpowerd now.
So keep on posting.
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ollobrains
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Posted - 2005.04.14 10:39:00 -
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time to introduce some jove frigates and or some jove weapons in some remote areas ? start slow lol.
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Joan Smith
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Posted - 2005.04.14 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Dear CCP,
I find it unfair that I can no longer use my overpowered mega pulse lasers as they are now not the uber weapon they once were.
mega pulse wasnt over powered blame the damge mod on a gankgeddon not the guns!!
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.04.14 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: Joan Smith
Originally by: Avon
Dear CCP,
I find it unfair that I can no longer use my overpowered mega pulse lasers as they are now not the uber weapon they once were.
mega pulse wasnt over powered blame the damge mod on a gankgeddon not the guns!!
You are wrong.
My sig prevents me from discussing this further.
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anter
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Posted - 2005.04.14 11:47:00 -
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I am not even flying amarr and I dont like how radical some of these changes were. Caldari is next and after that we can start nerf cycle over again.
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Auman
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Posted - 2005.04.14 11:56:00 -
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Edited by: Auman on 14/04/2005 11:56:00
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and they expect us to use mega beams ....try fitung 7 mega beam with a good tank
Try flying a megathron for the past god knows how many months... I still can't fit 7 425's and a good tank... I HOPE I NEVER CAN!!
Pilots should not be able to choose a high damage setup that provides a near perfect tank and doesn't provide you with major cap problems, let alone fitting issues. Amarr ships are still very very good and have not been nerfed below anyone else, they just aren't flavour of the month anymore.
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Julien Derida
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Posted - 2005.04.14 11:59:00 -
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Megapulse weren't nerfed enough.
Small pulses were nerfed far too much.
Well done Hammer 
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Santiac
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Posted - 2005.04.14 11:59:00 -
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usually make it a rule for myself not to post in these kind of threads, but for once i'll make an exception, simply can't resist ;P
first off, i'm not going to say wether or not the nerf of MPL's were deserved or not, other then it sounds reasonable that (when comparing stats anyway), that the optimal of pulse lasers doesn't reach into the optimal of beam lasers, with L5 sharpshooter and radio's on a T1 standard MPL, isn't optimal around 50km-ish?
and then +/- falloff.
On the other hand, part of this game is learning and adapting new ways of completing a task, take it as a challenge for now :)
When missile's revamp comes in, i think everything will be as balanced as possible, and if it isn't, it's only a matter of people who can't adapt, and want's everything to be pie.. in my humble opinion :)
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SlaneeshZ
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Posted - 2005.04.14 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Julien Derida
Megapulse weren't nerfed enough.
Small pulses were nerfed far too much.
Well done Hammer
So small pulses have been seriously nerfed now?
I asked already whether I should get small beam specialization now.
After all I don't want my Retribution dusting in the hangar.
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.04.14 12:18:00 -
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small pulses were destroyed in this patch.
Originally by: Graelyn
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Lyle Waters
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Posted - 2005.04.14 12:24:00 -
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Yeah, small pulse spec sucks, range is right down and damage is pants.
Takes me ages to do a lvl 4 complex now....
But it's more fun...
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Random
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Posted - 2005.04.14 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Malken
small pulses were destroyed in this patch.
No, basicly they where limeted to short range.
Being a short range takler my self using dualpulses, this dosent conserne me 1n bit, but yahh i dont have the option of orbiting som1 at 15km and still doing damige to him anymore.
But CCp realy need to take a look at the medium beams, and bascly all the hig end longrange guns, cuz they need to be usable. Dual beams are ok tho. (altho they do crapy damige)
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2005.04.14 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Dear CCP,
I find it unfair that I can no longer use my overpowered mega pulse lasers as they are now not the uber weapon they once were.
Further to this, I am dissapointed to see that I am unable to use a full set of mega beam lasers and maintain an unbreakable tank.
I feel that the Amarr are being put on a par with all the other races and our unquestionable superiority is being, well, questioned.
Please do something to make our ships unbalanced again, otherwise I will be forced to adapt.
Yours,
A Whiner.
Too bad it's too big to be used as a sig. IT's definitely sig worthy. 
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DarkZaion
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Posted - 2005.04.14 15:06:00 -
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today i did a test i jumped on my geddon fitted with 8 heat sink t2 + mega pulse 1 + fitted with radio
(lvl 4 large laser skill, shparpshooter lvl 3, surgical lvl3)
1st 37km range WTF!
2nd it only did ~50 damge to a unharden apoc!!!! WTF AT 20KM
i was like u sure u dont have harderns on he goes NO !!
AMARR IS WAY TOO OVER NERF
F$%@ING SUCKS
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Matanga
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Posted - 2005.04.14 15:10:00 -
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Two words for u guys....
Boo Hoo
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Thyro
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Posted - 2005.04.14 15:13:00 -
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Who could give me a good APOC setup to use Hybrids or Artillery while tanked? Thanks
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Damien Vox
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Posted - 2005.04.14 15:15:00 -
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My question is if were going to start the nerf cycle all over again how exactly do you nerf the Minmatar even more?
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Thyro
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Posted - 2005.04.14 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Damien Vox
My question is if were going to start the nerf cycle all over again how exactly do you nerf the Minmatar even more?
I hope not coz I want to get a good setup for my APOC using Hybrids or Artillery weapons!
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Thyro
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Posted - 2005.04.14 15:18:00 -
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BTW CCP could the APOC bonus be changed in order to have good stuf for Hybrid or Artillery weapons? Thanks
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Braaage
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Posted - 2005.04.14 16:07:00 -
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Your Mega Pulse Laser I barely scratches Supreme Drone Parasite, causing 8.5 damage.
Average damage was about 10 - Apoc/Arma are redundant so far as L4 combat missions go...
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Joan Smith
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Posted - 2005.04.14 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: Thyro
BTW CCP could the APOC bonus be changed in order to have good stuf for Hybrid or Artillery weapons? Thanks
yup can u plzzzz
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SlaneeshZ
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Posted - 2005.04.14 16:28:00 -
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o.O How do you want to nickname these ? Artipoc? Blageddon? Railpoc?
Anyways I kinda agree, I have trained months to get my char into a Retribution incl. the necessary skills. I guess I will now train for all racial frigs in case there will be a nerf cycle.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2005.04.14 16:42:00 -
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I would like to use this opportunity to welcome our amarr brethern to the world of eve. Cos so far you guys have been playing another game 
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