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Mordachai Ma'tak
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Posted - 2005.04.18 17:27:00 -
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Edited by: Mordachai Ma''tak on 18/04/2005 17:27:31
No matter how geniously planned, how thoroughly disguised, or how well executed a theft like this was, at the end of the day, it's still just common theft.
No need for applause here. This is just pathetic.
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Ak Gara
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Posted - 2005.04.18 17:31:00 -
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 Originally by: Mordachai Ma'tak
Edited by: Mordachai Ma''tak on 18/04/2005 17:27:31
No matter how geniously planned, how thoroughly disguised, or how well executed a theft like this was, at the end of the day, it's still just common theft.
No need for applause here. This is just pathetic.
This is anything BUT common theft.
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Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2005.04.18 17:35:00 -
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I would like to put forward a few facts.
In large corporations, how many people are usually in the role of directors and/or spokesmen? Not only did our operatives rise up in the ranks of UQS, they had the will to push through with it. The amount of planning put into the operation, and the co-ordination those that carried it out displayed during the actual event itself (execution of Mirial and theft in tandem, for one), is the reason why I'm immensely proud of my brethren in GHSC.
This wasn't just a corptheft. This was a surgical strike, a carefully planned and executed joint action between several agents of the Guiding Hand.
To those that say that our men have nothing to be proud of; you are wrong.
Our people have every reason to be proud of this, a culmination of months of work and dedicated planning. You may not agree with the course of action our agents decided to follow, but don't underestimate the sheer scale of the operation, nor the effort required to synchronize it's execution.
Raem Civrie,
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Zaridin
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Posted - 2005.04.18 17:38:00 -
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There are many ways to wage war.
Covert
Overt
Attrition
I can't help but express my awe at the precision and completness for which this operation occured having read about it. Security of assets is a part of the game, and GHSC struck at the heart of UQS with surgical precision.
To that I give the extraordinary *** Three thumbs up. 
...who cares about apathy?... An elephant is a mouse drawn to government specifications.
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Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2005.04.18 17:40:00 -
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Edited by: Antoinette Civari on 18/04/2005 17:40:32
Originally by: Raem Civrie
I would like to put forward a few facts.
In large corporations, how many people are usually in the role of directors and/or spokesmen? Not only did our operatives rise up in the ranks of UQS, they had the will to push through with it. The amount of planning put into the operation, and the co-ordination those that carried it out displayed during the actual event itself (execution of Mirial and theft in tandem, for one), is the reason why I'm immensely proud of my brethren in GHSC.
This wasn't just a corptheft. This was a surgical strike, a carefully planned and executed joint action between several agents of the Guiding Hand.
To those that say that our men have nothing to be proud of; you are wrong.
Our people have every reason to be proud of this, a culmination of months of work and dedicated planning. You may not agree with the course of action our agents decided to follow, but don't underestimate the sheer scale of the operation, nor the effort required to synchronize it's execution.
Raem Civrie,
Guiding Hand Operative
... in the end you simply betrayed them and ripped them off.
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Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2005.04.18 17:45:00 -
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... which is essentially a question of morals, and moot.
If you want to debate our moral integrity, you can go and have a long talk with a stone wall.
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Ashley Sky
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Posted - 2005.04.18 17:52:00 -
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As a small-time thief and villain, this kind of thing could happen only in my evil dreams.
I kneel in awe at this incredible story of deception. I stand in the cool shadows of giants.
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GoGo Yubari
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Posted - 2005.04.18 17:52:00 -
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Very, very impressive.
Corp leaders take note. This could have been stopped.
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Lizaa
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Posted - 2005.04.18 17:55:00 -
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/me applauds its taken only what?? almost a year? i am saddened i wasnt invited......
mirial deserves to be pod repeatedly for all her days
Lizaa - Dark Cartel - Director of Grief TacticsÖ
Death is coming!!!!!
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AzzKikr
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Posted - 2005.04.18 18:04:00 -
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I'm Speechless.
I really feel sorry for the Corp that got ripped off in this way. The worst part of this, is that they guys that did it is gloating to openly about what they did.
I'm part of a group that also got ripped of a long time ago. We have learnt our lesson. If I in my personal capacity can be of assistance, please convo me. I will help where I can.
Once again, sorry for your loss to these corp thieves
Regards,
AzzKikr
Old Farts Recruitment Officer
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pandore
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Posted - 2005.04.18 18:04:00 -
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 That's so awfull and a lot of isk, but since it's part of the game, I have to admit wowie, that's impressive!! Good luck to Ubiqua to get over this, It's hard at the beginning, I know, but time will arrange things...
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2005.04.18 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
I am but a simple warrior, and the great galatic game of espionage and politics are but a closed book to me.
But even I have heard of the mercenaries that are the guiding hand social club. I have no doubt that Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego will be boosted to an even greater size as a result of his actions.
I have no pity for the slavers, they deserve no mercy. But the guiding hands? I wonder if they are any better. For enough money I am sure they themselves would become slavers and attempt to destroy any opposition to it.
Be careful what you feed, for it is a dangerous person who will do anything for isk. Even the slavers have their moral code, as wrong as screwed as it is.
Why are you accusing us of being slavers? I personally love Minmatar, everyone should own at least one.
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Vampire Blade
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Posted - 2005.04.18 18:12:00 -
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Edited by: Vampire Blade on 18/04/2005 18:15:10
Congrats.
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Unleashed
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Posted - 2005.04.18 18:26:00 -
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Wow, just wow.
Making a press release and trying to spin it so that this theft is a covert op on a grand scale, I cant help but sit here laughing, at your 'justifications' for it.
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>currently training to level 5: sexual tyrannosaurus / Rank 8 /
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Frost Killer
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Posted - 2005.04.18 18:38:00 -
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Congrats on the steal. Truely it takes time and patience for anything to pay off. And truely ontop of that getting the respect of the corp to have access to the whole hanger. Thats brilliant work.
And as for the corp that got robbed, there is one thing to understand trust no one. There are safties implemented into the game to limit you from stealing items out of hangers and such and all I can say is damn that was a huge hit on you for the mess up or you beliving into the character too strongly.
As people have said it might wreak peoples game but you have to remember they let it come by them. If anything it was the people that gave him the rights to such items that wreaked the game for the rest in the corp over all the hours of work they had.
Congrats on the job, and welcome to EVE History 
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Abdalion
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Posted - 2005.04.18 18:46:00 -
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Greetings everyone,
Keep this on topic and in proper form for the Summit.
Regards,
-Abdalion
Intergalatic Summit Vice-Mediator
Yulai IX - CONCORD Bureau
Genesis
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ALTNAME
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Posted - 2005.04.18 18:54:00 -
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All not surprising folks, I have had a few run ins with Istvaan, and his organization
None of it is impressive however, given the nature of one of his 'contacts' or the possibility that he is such a contact
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.04.18 18:56:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 18/04/2005 18:56:08
So what did Mirial do to get such a contract upon herself?
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.04.18 18:57:00 -
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Highly impressive. A feat such as this can only be described as a masterwork of strategic and tactical planning, regardless of the moral ambiguity behind it. I hope others take heed of such acts as this, and realise there is more to corporate warfare than on the end of a blaster.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2005.04.18 18:59:00 -
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Edited by: Istvaan Shogaatsu on 18/04/2005 18:59:14
Quote:
So what did Mirial do to get such a contract upon herself?
Allegedly, she is herself a corp thief, and escrow scammer. This is a large part of why we were hired, although I have not personally verified it - it is simply not my business to.
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2005.04.18 19:03:00 -
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Since we're playing GHSC FAQ here:
Who gets all these big moneys anyways? Do you guys split it or does the origionator of the contract get some as well?
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.04.18 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Edited by: Istvaan Shogaatsu on 18/04/2005 18:59:14
Quote:
So what did Mirial do to get such a contract upon herself?
Allegedly, she is herself a corp thief, and escrow scammer. This is a large part of why we were hired, although I have not personally verified it - it is simply not my business to.
So you corp thieved a corp thief? Interesting, that kinda removes the lameness factor involved.
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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2005.04.18 19:12:00 -
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I bet someone really wishes that CCP had bothered to implement THIS with Exodus, as promised.
Oh well. Perhaps this will be the encouragement that they need.
Originally by: Sochin
CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.04.18 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Antoinette Civari
... in the end you simply betrayed them and ripped them off.
Thee that lives in glass pods, should not throw stones.
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Damien Vox
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Posted - 2005.04.18 19:21:00 -
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Edited by: Damien Vox on 18/04/2005 19:21:04
I told you that you were smart Tairos. 
I must applaud my fellow corp mates who pulled this off. I myself had no hand in it but I do feel rather proud to know I'm in the same corporation as people who can pull such an amazing thing off.
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RageChild
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Posted - 2005.04.18 19:22:00 -
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I can attest that Mirial is well known for robbing hangers and using escrow scams.
Karma.
Tales of the Rona Paratwa
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Darth Revanant
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Posted - 2005.04.18 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpyn
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Edited by: Istvaan Shogaatsu on 18/04/2005 18:59:14
Quote:
So what did Mirial do to get such a contract upon herself?
Allegedly, she is herself a corp thief, and escrow scammer. This is a large part of why we were hired, although I have not personally verified it - it is simply not my business to.
So you corp thieved a corp thief? Interesting, that kinda removes the lameness factor involved.
Alleged Scorpyn. If she were in fact a corp thief, don't you think she would have made off with the 20+ bil in assets before the actual corp thief did? Instead she helped build and construct UQS. Which version would you beleive?
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2005.04.18 19:28:00 -
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Edited by: Istvaan Shogaatsu on 18/04/2005 19:29:08
Originally by: Pulgor
Since we're playing GHSC FAQ here:
Who gets all these big moneys anyways? Do you guys split it or does the origionator of the contract get some as well?
I'm glad you asked, Pulgor - this old businessman loves rambling on and on about his outfit, and you've just given me the excuse.
GHSC uses a decentralized structure of payment. Nothing is ever a shared asset. In PVP wars, the bulk of which takes place in ship-to-ship combat, we divide pay based on combat performance as evidenced by killmails and value of assets destroyed or acquired on an individual member basis. This encourages us to do our best. In primarily covert-ops campaigns, pay is distributed largely equally among everyone involved (it is after all a monumental task), with discretionary bonuses awarded to individuals who are key to pulling off the caper.
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Uuve Savisaalo
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Posted - 2005.04.18 19:39:00 -
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I would like to raise a glass to the fruition of this marvelous ploy. Good show, everyone. Good show.
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Joaquin Farrad
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Posted - 2005.04.18 19:42:00 -
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Alleged Scorpyn. If she were in fact a corp thief, don't you think she would have made off with the 20+ bil in assets before the actual corp thief did? Instead she helped build and construct UQS. Which version would you beleive?
I expect many of those on the recieving end of Mirial's ebilness to come out in droves like children molested by clergy, only 10% being actual factual.
I've seen many of her scams on the escrow, and I've never cried wolf about it, because it's a world of "Buyer Beware". I've only heard of her use of Minmatar agents within other Minmatar corporations, so I can't really comment about that.
As for being an angel and helping build and construct a corporation deicated to oppressing and subjectating the Minmatar in a way not sanctioned by the Emperor of the Amarr, I can shed no tears for this "outrage". Mirial has always had several enemies in many circles. Loyal Amarrians hate her for being anti-Emperor and slanderous of loyal Amarrian corps (don't ask me to provide proof, I'm sure many loyal Amarrian corps can provie that for you). Minmatars hate her for being an evil wicked *****. Individuals hate her probbably for the escrow shinannigans.
To say the least, Mirial isn't going to be cannonized in the Amarrian Church for her pure soul. She can only hope that the friends she made remember her fondly. Sometimes that's all you need, but being a publicity ***** probbably won't be enough for her.
To answer your question, I'll believe the story that makes Mirial look like an evil *****.
Moral of the story is: Make enough enemies, and one will eventually want to see you burn more than the rest.
I for one will be changing my Pod Access code. No telling who I've uttered it to during many drunken nights.
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