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Kalast Raven
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Posted - 2005.04.18 22:20:00 -
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As an outsider, I would like to see conclusive evidence as to the truth of allegations against Mirial. Her name is being dragged through the mud here, so don't add insult to injury (and what an injury) unless you can back up the insult.
As for the members of the Guiding Hand, your day will come. I think that you can only fly in the face of common decency for so long before you face consequences. And openly bragging like this is only going to accelerate your downfall.
If you were really professional thieves, then you wouldn't release your identities - ever. -------
K. Raven
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Kalast Raven
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Posted - 2005.04.18 22:22:00 -
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As for whether someone else hired the Guiding Hand at all, who knows? I certainly won't be placing a bet on it, either way. -------
K. Raven
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.04.18 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Joaquin Farrad
Originally by: Tairos Hakonnus What a lot of people seem to be forgetting is that someone else hired the Guiding Hand to commit this legendary act of larceny; and while I'm sure they enjoyed committing it, they aren't the ones who are ultimately responsible.
This is probbably the best nugget of intelligence found on this topic, couldn't have said it better myself.
You presume they are telling the truth about that, they have lied all along so why tell the truth now? ---------------
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Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2005.04.18 22:29:00 -
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Congrats on a contract completed. However, bragging to the entire starcluster that you excell in "bald face lying" and "betrayal of trust" is sad and pathetic. If you have gained anyones respect or admiration for the completion of this contract, I pity them as well.
I fear that all you have done is caused a few people to mothball their pods and never enter space again. Congrats.
Oberon-Inc FEAR MY EMOTICONS |

Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2005.04.18 22:31:00 -
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All in a day's work, my friend.
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Razor Jaxx
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Posted - 2005.04.18 22:34:00 -
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Congratulations on a masterful planning and surgical execution; theft & assassination being carried out at the exact same time - wow.
Yes, it is surely an extremely demoralizing blow to the contract target, but after all, isn't this exactly what GH-SC was hired to do? And so they did, with exquisite success, which makes them simply the best in business, bar none.
I see some parallels being drawn with mere 'standard' corp theft, where a member departs with a number of corps assets for exclusively personal reasons, without any RP motive, and then proceeds to hide and change identities. This is not the case at all, and widely publicizing the op's success is the ultimate blow to the target, the icing on the cake - an un-exposed victim isn't a victim to the general public, and it is my guess the contractor wished the magnitude of this heist to be fully exposed.
Undoubtedly UQS worked hard, and collegially, to acquire such wealth in the first place, but I would wager GH-SC worked equally hard - albeit differently - to carry out this masterpiece.
In the end, brilliant RP, which is what we've come to expect from Istvaan and his aides.
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Joaquin Farrad
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Posted - 2005.04.18 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Halseth Durn I fear that all you have done is caused a few people to mothball their pods and never enter space again. Congrats.
If you want a new set of china, you gotta break a few hearts... ____________________________________
Eve's only fashionable, narcotic-mad, sexual deviant... |

Kalahari Wayrest
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Posted - 2005.04.18 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: Arenis Xemdal
Such grand efforts made in "uncovering the truth", but none answer the question...
What are you going to do about it?
As long as there are shocked bystanders and crippled corporations, we will always have employment.
I knew you were trouble when you popped my ore can 
Thug.
Keeping things on topic...Feel bad for Mirial if she hadn't commited corp thefts, don't if she has. Either way Darth Revenant is sexy. 
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Star Hawk
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Posted - 2005.04.18 22:48:00 -
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In real life, an incident like this would have the criminal behind bars in no time. To openly bragg about it is far worse. Whether Mirial stole or conned someone else is only hearsay. But to me what Arenis Xemdal did is just as bad as what Judas did. Did you do it for a handful of silver coins?? Treachery should never be received with acclaim. This is one of the most disgusting acts Ive ever heard of in the one year ive been playing Eve. I can understand pirates and the Minmatar cause. I dont understand what would possess anyone to do such an evil act. 
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Russo
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Posted - 2005.04.18 22:49:00 -
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Well **** happens, but everything you stole is just material things. We are spiritual, and you cannot take our faith or purpose given to us by God. All the things you did are replaceable. In time your actions will be forgotten and the only thing that will endure is the good, the good done for God.
Material is nothing...you cannot take it to the grave, and it will not prevent your death one day. Only faith will comfort us in our death beds, and give us life everlasting.
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Lizaa
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Posted - 2005.04.18 22:51:00 -
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Edited by: Lizaa on 18/04/2005 22:53:46
Originally by: FA InformationMinister For all people not "in the know" Aremis the corp thief is Zeraph who is also Tyrrax Thorrk
how about u get a clue even i know that isnt true, i do know however who the real ppl are and for that i applaud them..... they have recieved thier congrats mail from me already.....
lol serves that ebil b**** right for what happended to her. im am saddened that i wasnt along for the ride....
 Lizaa - Dark Cartel - Director of Grief TacticsÖ Death is coming!!!!!
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Joaquin Farrad
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Posted - 2005.04.18 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius You presume they are telling the truth about that, they have lied all along so why tell the truth now?
As it was said, publicity is the icing on the cake.
Now, a lot of people are confused as to the answer of the question: "Why the GHSC does what it does to people?!?"
Well, allow me to enlighten:
The GHSC is a contract based small business in the mercenary market of asset redirection (I LOVE that term). You may find them in the back room of the GHSC club itself, but usually you have to have an appointment. From there, you have about 31 flavors of corporate destruction to choose from. Corp theft is just the most popular choice used. Then, as stated before, the target corp get a knock-knock on their door because they did something to bring the GHSC there.
Otherwise, a corporation that has no enemies or long lasting grudges has nothing to fear from the GHSC.
This unless you:
- Aggrivate them by being stupid/loud/distasteful/classless/volitile/inconsiderate while addressing them enough to be remembered. - Block, complicate, or otherwise interfere with their daily operations - Dress up like a******victim, because only then you're just asking for it. - Be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Adhere to these simple guidelines and you should never have to look over your back for a GHSC operative looking to cut the implants outta your pretty face. ____________________________________
Eve's only fashionable, narcotic-mad, sexual deviant... |

Pulgor
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Posted - 2005.04.18 22:58:00 -
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I want to play another round of GHSC FAQ:
Do these services even cost the origionater of the contract anything? considering that it seems the GHSC gets well compensated for their efforts, it is kind of fruitless to expect to have to pay for them. -----------------------------------
Pulgor --- In service to Saram. Visit the Ammatar channel ingame!
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Razor Jaxx
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Posted - 2005.04.18 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: Joaquin Farrad Adhere to these simple guidelines and you should never have to look over your back for a GHSC operative looking to cut the implants outta your pretty face.
From what I read, I'm guessing you would be the scalpel-wielding butcher, eh? 
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Paladineguru
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Posted - 2005.04.18 23:07:00 -
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you took to long to get the job done ist , i would have expected results sooner. 
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Joaquin Farrad
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Posted - 2005.04.18 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: Razor Jaxx
Originally by: Joaquin Farrad Adhere to these simple guidelines and you should never have to look over your back for a GHSC operative looking to cut the implants outta your pretty face.
From what I read, I'm guessing you would be the scalpel-wielding butcher, eh? 
Well, there are two ways for that kinda job. I'm the cleaner way, probbably because the mods in your skull are worth more intact than destroyed. The other option, destroy mods and body, are usually taken care of by the GHSC scarecrow. You will know him when you see him.
I've met him once, and he isn't very gentle. ____________________________________
Eve's only fashionable, narcotic-mad, sexual deviant... |

Resdayn Sarum
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Posted - 2005.04.18 23:08:00 -
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Arenis was my most trusted friend and brother, however he did backstab me and my ideals when he tried to bring down the corporation ive fought for in my whole life. He even escaped with my body and Pilot implants. I would like that back as it cant be seen as something hurting Mirial as you stated this was all about. And stealing my whole collection of ships which didnt belong to Mirial but me cant be seen as negative towards Mirial either. This is all a plot to grief one person resulting in hurting us all, you the players of the universe flying around reading our press releases to have time running, us the warriors who defend our ideals, me the pilot who lost all his training and equipment. This is the worst sort of griefers and harassment, i hope CCP will come to their senses and do the right thing here. Its not "cool" to grief people and the people who takes comfort in doing such acts must be pathetic in their inner self.
With Kind Regards
Resdayn Sarum,
OOC: my main char, Resdayn is stolen do not trust this char at any cost.
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Aman Sul
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Posted - 2005.04.18 23:13:00 -
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With or without a contract Corp thefts are ghey as ****
"There are no dumb questions, but there are ALOT of inquisitive idiots." |

Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2005.04.18 23:14:00 -
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Edited by: Istvaan Shogaatsu on 18/04/2005 23:18:44
Originally by: Pulgor I want to play another round of GHSC FAQ:
Do these services even cost the origionater of the contract anything? considering that it seems the GHSC gets well compensated for their efforts, it is kind of fruitless to expect to have to pay for them.
Yep, they cost. While this campaign certainly lined our pockets, not every war comes with a massive robbery - many of our clients ask us specifically not to, which speaks highly of their character. Such PVP-oriented wars invariably bring ship losses with them - our T2 ship fetish coupled with our small size means we occasionally take it on the nose harder than merc joints like BDCI who simply outclass us in space. Ergo it is necessary to charge to offset operating costs - even for a campaign like this, which, while lucrative upon execution, was literally months in the making.
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MikeDK
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Posted - 2005.04.18 23:14:00 -
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Using the EVE Online forums to trumpet your shameless acts just shows how utterly full of yourself you are. It's infantile and well, pitiful.
I don't know why you think that lying, stealing and abusing trust is going to earn you anything but contempt. All you've achieved is to make the game less fun for everyone else. Are we supposed to salute you for that?
There's no question that this will have a negative impact throughout EVE, not just immediately in terms of people leaving the game, but over time.
Fewer players means less revenue for CCP means higher prices for me. Thanks a lot for that dude, really appreciate that.
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Synex
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Posted - 2005.04.18 23:56:00 -
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Not very wise to boast about blatant corp theft on these CONCORD monitored message boards... I expect they are setting your sec status to -10.0 right about... oh wait, nope - they don't care do they?!
One quick question - did you use your own identities to pull this off, or did you all assume 'alt'ernate personalities?
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Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2005.04.19 00:01:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu All in a day's work, my friend.
We're not friends. Nor will we ever be.
Oberon-Inc FEAR MY EMOTICONS |

Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2005.04.19 00:04:00 -
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Funny story, Synex.
You know how the phrase "Guiding Hand Social Club" has been essentially synonymous with the phrase "corp theft"? Take a look at elite GHSC operative Arenis Xemdal's employment record, and note what corporation he was in before joining UQS for this heist.
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Ankanos
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Posted - 2005.04.19 00:16:00 -
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i applaud the genious in exeucting a well laid plan.. -however, i find it utterly pathetic that one would be so proud to be a common thief..
..one can only hope you did the right thing and had your entire corp neutered..
..very sad indeed
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Errol Dinn
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Posted - 2005.04.19 00:23:00 -
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Edited by: Errol Dinn on 19/04/2005 00:23:26 Common thief? Hell thats over 20 Billion in ISK and assets. That's not common in any way shape or form. That is referred to more as Grand Larceny.
Mr. Shogaatsu, if someone should ever deem it necessary to hire your services to hit my small corp, please contact me so we can work out a business arrangement before any nasty business needs to occur. Although with the resounding success of this last job I'm not sure I could afford to pay you off anymore.
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Sylvia Saint
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Posted - 2005.04.19 01:10:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Funny you should mention Endless - did you know I robbed them too?
Istvaan you bas***d.. i was a member of Endless till you emptied its hangers & made it bankrupt and now Ubiqua Seraph.. my allais..
let me ask you this : did you have anything to do with the corp theft on RaiD Enterpraises too?
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2005.04.19 01:14:00 -
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If it's not signed, it's not mine. Every time I hit a corphangar, I replace the stolen goods with a bookmark containing my name and corporation.
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Shira d'Radonis
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Posted - 2005.04.19 01:18:00 -
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Boy, I have to say, you're pretty sleezy. I mean, that's pretty bad form. Do you like making other people miserable? -----------------------------------------------
ōąquod ad ius naturale attinet, omnes homines aequales suntö
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Mordax Ibrium
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Posted - 2005.04.19 01:21:00 -
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Istvaan is 
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Arimas Talasko
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Posted - 2005.04.19 01:48:00 -
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The GHSC elevates the art of corp destruction through thievery from simply pathetic to a considerable level of class. Supremacy Keepin it Real |
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