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Archa
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Posted - 2005.04.19 00:42:00 -
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So painfull. There i was, Friday afternoon. A complete n00b considering player owned stations. But i had the entire weekend to myself and i figured going into posses wouldn't be such a bad idea.
So i started reading buckloads of posts. Talked to people in the "pos funtime" channel and made over 600 moonscans.
On sunday I made the decision for the locations of my 2 posses and started hauling all the stuff. After that i bought enough fuel to last me at least 2 weeks.
I was ready to anchor my first player owned station.
I warped to the moon and saw a few containers. So i moved away from them. launched the control tower for the corp and anchored it.
But what is going on? I can't anchor it.
There is a cargo container in the way.
So i move about 200km away from the container and then it sais i can't anchor it because it needs to be near a moon.
So a certain corporation is blocking all the interesting moons by anchoring containers at the moon.
The person in question is not online and i can't reach anyone of the corporation in question.
My entire monday evening is ruined.
I worked so hard for this and a few lousy cans ruin it all.
This is the saddest bug ingame.
Make it impossible to anchor containers at a moon, or make it possible to anchor a station anywhere at a moon.
archa out
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jbob2000
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Posted - 2005.04.19 00:55:00 -
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Probably reserved for a future POS. If you don't plan on moon mining, just go to a different moon
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SPIONKOP
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Posted - 2005.04.19 00:57:00 -
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Edited by: SPIONKOP on 19/04/2005 01:03:16
I put in a petition about this and CCP are looking into it and until they make their mind up they can do nothing.
Simple solution, allow the GM's to move offending cans to the planet. Many cans placed near moons could be months old but I seen some that simply say "Reserved". If they can't be arsed putting up a POS then they lose the moon.
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jbob2000
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Posted - 2005.04.19 01:02:00 -
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Gather some ships and shoot the can
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Archa
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Posted - 2005.04.19 01:13:00 -
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jbob, ofcourse i intended to mine there.
i worked out all the details, these moons were going to make me quite alot of money for me and i invested ALOT of money in them.
I just hope ccp will do something about this very soon.
And uhmm, how many ships will i need to take down 5 giant anchored secure containers within an hour?
probably 60 battleships:(
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ErrorS
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Posted - 2005.04.19 01:58:00 -
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yeah, I know how you feel. Someone had a POS in a spot that I wanted to put my POS. I petitioned it but CCP wouldn't move it for me..
wtf :(
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WarChiId
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Posted - 2005.04.19 02:28:00 -
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It depends on which GM u get. I petitioned under stuck and had them moved right away.
However i think the cans were plain empty, and either way we had 10 gankageddons melting the can. They would have been gone either way.
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The Reporter
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Posted - 2005.04.19 03:38:00 -
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 Originally by: WarChiId
It depends on which GM u get. I petitioned under stuck and had them moved right away.
However i think the cans were plain empty, and either way we had 10 gankageddons melting the can. They would have been gone either way.
Did you try asking the people who had the can there first..
Or did you just decide it was your spot?.
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Ranx Xerox
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Posted - 2005.04.19 07:29:00 -
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difficult to found a compromise, because if gm fobide containers at moons then you will have a big problem in your pos when you have to stack materials and fuel.
Other way they have only one place to put a pos in order to be sure you will have only one pos by moon.
Asking gm to move them 150 Kms of the moon could be time consuming but like that they will found them back. Other interesting thing you will been able to kill them when they come back with your pos guns :)
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Saerid
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Posted - 2005.04.19 08:38:00 -
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Admittedly I succumbed to the can temptation myself ,got 3 of them out there. Trying to keep mine out there for a max of one week, then I'll just go unanchor them (and already did for some). Wouldn't particularly mind if that mechanism was gone altogether. Of course only way to find out if someone else's can is unanchored is to try anchoring next to it, bit of hassle.
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Falconius Karde
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Posted - 2005.04.19 10:33:00 -
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I curse the person who first suggested this publicly. As soon as I saw it I knew someone would go..."Hey, what a great idea!"
Some people need to learn when to stay quiet.
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Garia666
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Posted - 2005.04.19 12:35:00 -
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indeed very smart.. this way u can block future pos in ur system :)
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Garia666
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Posted - 2005.04.19 12:35:00 -
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indeed very smart.. this way u can block future pos in ur system :)
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Archa
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Posted - 2005.04.19 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Falconius Karde
I curse the person who first suggested this publicly. As soon as I saw it I knew someone would go..."Hey, what a great idea!"
Some people need to learn when to stay quiet.
This was already mentioned in the guide of moon surveying (I read it to late) and it is a fair warning to people who want to set up a pos, If there are containers, contact the owners as soon as possible because it can take a while before they remove their cans.
And with some public attention ccp might seriously look into this and might actually do something about it.
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Ki Shodan
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Posted - 2005.04.19 13:36:00 -
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you can not block the moons that way, although it takes some time to remove the containers:
simply shoot 'em, although you would need a lot of ammo, or a laser/smartbomb combo.
if you have invested the time to scan 600 moons, you can easily invest to kill off 10,000,000 hitpoints per Secure container.
check EVE-i.com Object-Explorer for details on Containers.
anchoring a POS takes quite some time, so you should not sit at a moon in an indy unguarded in a low sec system, anyway.
have some friends join you removing the containers and celebrating the building of your pos. :-D
they can hunt, while waiting for the pos to finish, if some bad guys want to spoil the party, they can beat him up. :-P
(ok, you only would need 277778 Thorn Rockets and a Kestrel with 4 rocket launchers, 2 balistics and Caldari frig and rockets at 4. that would be ~69445 rockets per launcher and roughly 49 h without reload. so better get a few Apocs with most damaging lasers and sit at optimal. ;-P they should do faster. if you go for the kestrel i can supply all that is needed ...)
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Zophi
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Posted - 2005.04.19 13:42:00 -
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I have one skill for yuo:
Hacking
Whatever happended to that one CCP? We need it! WOuld take some of the Care out of the Bears...
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Kira Natel
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Posted - 2005.04.19 22:19:00 -
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Drop your own can out and make their day :)
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Archa
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Posted - 2005.04.19 22:46:00 -
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heej not to bad..
will only take me 312.5 minutes per can with 8 mega pulse II on my apoc.
so with ten people it will take 31.25 minutes per can.
multiply this by 5 and hooray.
2.5 hours wasted on 10 peoples lives.
Yup this is defeatnely something to stay home for in the weekend.
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Falconius Karde
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Posted - 2005.04.19 23:23:00 -
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Sorry Archa if I was unclear, I was not reffering to you. I was reffering to a post I had seen previously where someone casually mentioned the possibility.
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Dantes Darkheart
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Posted - 2005.04.20 12:46:00 -
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Edited by: Dantes Darkheart on 22/04/2005 11:41:27
Originally by: The Reporter
Originally by: WarChiId
Did you try asking the people who had the can there first..
Or did you just decide it was your spot?.
IMHO, if you can't put up your POS in a short amount of time, too bad. "Staking" your claim by using the secure can exploit is extremely lame.
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Tobiaz
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Posted - 2005.04.20 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: Archa
heej not to bad..
will only take me 312.5 minutes per can with 8 mega pulse II on my apoc.
so with ten people it will take 31.25 minutes per can.
multiply this by 5 and hooray.
2.5 hours wasted on 10 peoples lives.
Yup this is defeatnely something to stay home for in the weekend.
You want that POS or not?
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Gangsta Boo
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Posted - 2005.04.20 13:51:00 -
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The cans do indeed pop. A geddon, a raven, and half through a prophecy came to help and it took us about 3.5 hours to pop the can. So if you really want to pop them you can. Now if there is two or more cans....
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Ranx Xerox
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Posted - 2005.04.20 14:27:00 -
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But what is CCP answer on that point ? By sample if i am ready to anchor my pos , have the industrial near the container and pettition for stuck, they should move it no ? for me could be a good agreement, proving like this i am able to build a pos, not just locking moon like the other guy. |
Bsport
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Posted - 2005.04.20 14:38:00 -
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perhaps something like a POS anchor overrides a container one, would be enough to do it?
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Jet Collins
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Posted - 2005.04.20 19:59:00 -
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I say drop soem of your cans there that way if they don't contact you they will have to if they want to set up a POS there.
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Ranx Xerox
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Posted - 2005.04.21 07:28:00 -
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and if they dont or it you have a challenge with more containers ?
I think more about the idea of anchoring still but a little more far or near of moon, but any way with buble & jumps position it"s really needed to remove cans or they will be pain.
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Beldaws
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Posted - 2005.04.21 19:15:00 -
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Wasn't this part of the patch notes susposed to fix this problem?
"Non-structure items anchored during starbase deployment will no longer remain anchored."
It doesn't seem to work BTW.
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Archa
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Posted - 2005.04.21 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Beldaws
Wasn't this part of the patch notes susposed to fix this problem?
"Non-structure items anchored during starbase deployment will no longer remain anchored."
It doesn't seem to work BTW.
Read that line again very carefully.
it sais: during starbase deployment.
In the current scenario the cans are deployed before the starbase deployment
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Beldaws
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Posted - 2005.04.22 11:05:00 -
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When I launch and start anchoring my control tower I am deploying my POS.
Anyway, this is now considered an exploit and if you petition it, the can will be removed. Thanks go out to the GM that offered to remove a can for me yesterday. I was able to remove the can myself after a couple hours of pounding away with a couple gankageddons. The GM contacted me within 5 minutes of me blowing up the can. How's that for timing!
Originally by: Archa
Read that line again very carefully.
it sais: during starbase deployment.
In the current scenario the cans are deployed before the starbase deployment
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Archa
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Posted - 2005.04.22 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Beldaws
When I launch and start anchoring my control tower I am deploying my POS.
Anyway, this is now considered an exploit and if you petition it, the can will be removed. Thanks go out to the GM that offered to remove a can for me yesterday. I was able to remove the can myself after a couple hours of pounding away with a couple gankageddons. The GM contacted me within 5 minutes of me blowing up the can. How's that for timing!
Originally by: Archa
Read that line again very carefully.
it sais: during starbase deployment.
hmm maybe they'll remove them for me as well after firing at the 5 containers for 20 hours straight:P
In the current scenario the cans are deployed before the starbase deployment
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