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Keen Fallsword Skyway Patrol 83	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:12:00 - [1] - Quote I found this awesome comment on eve24. Its really good. Its shows situation in the game. comment is by: "Right in the Truth" and can be found here: http://evenews24.com/2012/11/08/mabrick-is-interest-in-eve-online-declining/ How you guys feel about tech moons and overall game politics and balance ? here is the comment from eve24 "They never should have let Goons or anyone else, sit on Tech moons for almost 2 years and counting. Meanwhile nerfing drone regions, incursions, and mission drops/bounties. Null sec sites and running lvl 4's in npc nullsec takes no coordination, are easier, and make more isk than incursions ever did, guess who got nerfed. Goons have so much isk from tech moons they can afford to setup permanent hulkageddon rewards, ice interdiction, throw away thousands of tornado's in burn jita, while fighting war after war with free ship replacement for the largest blob in eve. Seems balanced...... It's too late to be fixed now, they have amassed so much wealth and influence that eve is over. Goons won, and CCP is basically a goon pet at this point. I don't blame people for quitting. Goons stated goal was to ruin eve for everyone, well guess what, they've succeeded, and some how CCP was stupid enough to let this all happen. " the best part is: "Goons won, and CCP is basically a goon pet at this point." heh nice :) My question again: How you guys feel about tech moons and overall game politics and balance ? what can be done with this situation to make our game better ?
Jantunen the Infernal O C C U P Y 36	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:15:00 - [2] - Quote If you don't want goons to have so many tech moons, you are free to undock and take them for yourself.
Keen Fallsword Skyway Patrol 83	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:16:00 - [3] - Quote Jantunen the Infernal wrote: If you don't want goons to have so many tech moons, you are free to undock and take them for yourself. Stay on topic please. one more time: My question again: How you guys feel about tech moons and overall game politics and balance ? what can be done with this situation to make our game better ?
Riot Girl RADIO RAMPAGE Initiative Mercenaries 444	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:16:00 - [4] - Quote I feel like QQ biomass.
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 1982	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:20:00 - [5] - Quote Game is declining because: - only now, after a decade, CCP found out that "player base" is not a static concept and new players have to be enticed to stay longer than 2 months before giving up. - at the same time the old players see some frigates / cruisers revamp, a cosmetic change nobody really asked for, wardecs etc. screwed more than ever, null sec stale like CIA's director David Petraeus's wife. - at the same time CCP announced that next patch(es) are more of the same (revamping BCs etc), that is they won't deliver true new content along with revamps of the past. Auditing \| Collateral holding and insurance \| Consulting \| PLEX for Good Charity Twitter channel
Remiel Pollard Devlin Security Devlin Alliance 62	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:20:00 - [6] - Quote Keen Fallsword wrote: Jantunen the Infernal wrote: If you don't want goons to have so many tech moons, you are free to undock and take them for yourself. Stay on topic please. one more time: My question again: How you guys feel about tech moons and overall game politics and balance ? what can be done with this situation to make our game better ? Stay on topic? You made the topic, mate. The goons are in the heading of the topic. This is the topic - if you want them off the moons, you take them off the moons. It's not up to CCP to play the game for you. That's what makes the game great. Getting CCP to make it easy for us would not make it better. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
Keen Fallsword Skyway Patrol 83	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:22:00 - [7] - Quote Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: Game is declining because: - only now, after a decade, CCP found out that "player base" is not a static concept and new players have to be enticed to stay longer than 2 months before giving up. - at the same time the old players see some frigates / cruisers revamp, a cosmetic change nobody really asked for, wardecs etc. screwed more than ever, null sec stale like CIA's director David Petraeus's wife. - at the same time CCP announced that next patch(es) are more of the same (revamping BCs etc), that is they won't deliver true new content along with revamps of the past. Yeah but what they could / should make ? I mean CCP to make this situation better ? Let be constructive. Or its just OVER ?
baltec1 Bat Country 2800	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:24:00 - [8] - Quote To celebrate our two years of tech goodness we went and treated ourselves to the rest of the moons.
Keen Fallsword Skyway Patrol 83	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:24:00 - [9] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Keen Fallsword wrote: Jantunen the Infernal wrote: If you don't want goons to have so many tech moons, you are free to undock and take them for yourself. Stay on topic please. one more time: My question again: How you guys feel about tech moons and overall game politics and balance ? what can be done with this situation to make our game better ? Stay on topic? You made the topic, mate. The goons are in the heading of the topic. This is the topic - if you want them off the moons, you take them off the moons. It's not up to CCP to play the game for you. That's what makes the game great. Getting CCP to make it easy for us would not make it better. No i have nothing to Goons. Goons are in topic cos game is unbalanced. let try to find a way to make game better balanced. Be constructive BRO. "Undock and kill all goons" is 6 yrs old comment and you know that
Remiel Pollard Devlin Security Devlin Alliance 62	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:24:00 - [10] - Quote Keen Fallsword wrote: Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: Game is declining because: - only now, after a decade, CCP found out that "player base" is not a static concept and new players have to be enticed to stay longer than 2 months before giving up. - at the same time the old players see some frigates / cruisers revamp, a cosmetic change nobody really asked for, wardecs etc. screwed more than ever, null sec stale like CIA's director David Petraeus's wife. - at the same time CCP announced that next patch(es) are more of the same (revamping BCs etc), that is they won't deliver true new content along with revamps of the past. Yeah but what they could / should make ? I mean CCP to make this situation better ? Let be constructive. Or its just OVER ? It's not up to CCP to make the situation better - the Goons established themselves by taking the most advantage they could of the game mechanics - ie, they played SMART. Now, if you want to "beat" them, then you have to play smarter, not whine on the forums about them. And fyi, the goons don't bother my game. They never have. There is more to EVE than moons, and there are more moons in EVE that the goons haven't got. So, if it's over for you, then go away. We have a game to play. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
lilith silverstone Dark Silver Industrial 0	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:25:00 - [11] - Quote Keen Fallsword wrote: I found this awesome comment on eve24. Stopped reading here.
Riot Girl RADIO RAMPAGE Initiative Mercenaries 447	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:25:00 - [12] - Quote I don't like the way Africa is poorer than Europe. Let's give them Belgium.
Keen Fallsword Skyway Patrol 83	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:25:00 - [13] - Quote baltec1 wrote: To celebrate our two years of tech goodness we went and treated ourselves to the rest of the moons. But if you try to be more "constructive" and stop trolling It would be better
Riot Girl RADIO RAMPAGE Initiative Mercenaries 447	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:26:00 - [14] - Quote Or build a new Belgium in Africa, maybe.
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 1982	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:26:00 - [15] - Quote Not sure if it's over or not, but usually when you win a game and you get the victory cut-scene and then the credits, you feel happy to have succeeded finishing it but also sad because you have finished it. Now, EvE has shown Goons the victory cut-scene and the credits. Not only that, but the game kind of stopped going ahead and is polishing its past. Auditing \| Collateral holding and insurance \| Consulting \| PLEX for Good Charity Twitter channel
Keen Fallsword Skyway Patrol 83	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:27:00 - [16] - Quote Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: Not sure if it's over or not, but usually when you win a game and you get the victory cut-scene and then the credits, you feel happy to have succeeded finishing it but also sad because you have finished it. Now, EvE has shown Goons the victory cut-scene and the credits. Not only that, but the game kind of stopped going ahead and is polishing its past. Like I said: My question again: How you guys feel about tech moons and overall game politics and balance ? what can be done with this situation to make our game better ?
Remiel Pollard Devlin Security Devlin Alliance 63	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:28:00 - [17] - Quote Keen Fallsword wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Keen Fallsword wrote: Jantunen the Infernal wrote: If you don't want goons to have so many tech moons, you are free to undock and take them for yourself. Stay on topic please. one more time: My question again: How you guys feel about tech moons and overall game politics and balance ? what can be done with this situation to make our game better ? Stay on topic? You made the topic, mate. The goons are in the heading of the topic. This is the topic - if you want them off the moons, you take them off the moons. It's not up to CCP to play the game for you. That's what makes the game great. Getting CCP to make it easy for us would not make it better. No i have nothing to Goons. Goons are in topic cos game is unbalanced. let try to find a way to make game better balanced. Be constructive BRO. "Undock and kill all goons" is 6 yrs old comment and you know that I'm not being deconstructive, I'm trying to tell you where you're going wrong. First of all, let's leave the remarks about maturity out of it - so far, that's the most immature thing that's been posted here. What I know is that the game is working AS INTENDED. What you seem to think is that the goons are a problem - they aren't, and if they're a problem to you then they're your problem. Deal with it. The Goons haven't done anything to warrant any sort of interference from CCP. You made the goons the topic, and claimed they are making the game "unbalanced". You are wrong, you just can't figure out how to outsmart them. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
Silk daShocka Greasy Hair Club 100	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:28:00 - [18] - Quote "They never should have let Goons or anyone else, sit on Tech moons for almost 2 years and counting." "They" are not CCP. They are the players, CCP let's anyone who pleases sit on these moons. Up until recently there was a bit more variety in who was sitting on these moons. If there wasn't any variety, and goons owned them all, OTEC wouldn't have been necessary. When reading EN24 you should realize that most of the authors there are very very biased. Maybe you do realize this and merely came to gain publicity from the eve-o forums, but if you didn't now you know.
baltec1 Bat Country 2803	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:28:00 - [19] - Quote Keen Fallsword wrote: baltec1 wrote: To celebrate our two years of tech goodness we went and treated ourselves to the rest of the moons. But if you try to be more "constructive" and stop trolling It would be better Hey Im being constructive. Right now I and other leading Bat scientists are researching what sort of chaos we can bring to mission runners. Research funded by our disgustingly massive pile of isk. Winter is coming.
Keen Fallsword Skyway Patrol 83	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:29:00 - [20] - Quote Riot Girl wrote: I don't like the way Africa is poorer than Europe. Let's give them Belgium. try to read the post one more time. question is: How you guys feel about tech moons and overall game politics and balance ? what can be done with this situation to make our game better ?
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 445	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:30:00 - [21] - Quote Keen Fallsword wrote: GRRRRRRRRRR GOOOOOOONS I tell you what the real issue is here? Halo 4. There's this game mode called "King of the Hill" right, and like you get MORE POINTS for staying in the hill! Sometimes, this is the really bad part, sometimes a TEAM of players can like STAY in the hill for AGGGEEEES. What happens then, if you can believe this, is they get LOADS OF POINTS!!!!!!!! This one match I was in last night, me and a load of guys all sort of sat around at the back and this team just STAYED in the hill the entire match! They didn't even leave the hill and they DIDN'T let anyone go in it!!!! As a result they WON the match but NOT EVEN MOVING. I think Halo 4 should be changed so sometimes they are in the hill and sometimes I am in the hill and they aren't allowed to take the hill off me when I'm in it. TIA 4 urs comments (EDIT: For anyone who doesn't get it I'm making an ironic post comparing a relatively established gamestyle (i.e. king of the hill) with null sec and that fact that people want the hill to be moved instead of playing the game to take it) "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Lady Spank Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED 2909	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:31:00 - [22] - Quote Tech moons are fine. CCP should not be preventing goons from owning them, players should. NAP fests are player driven. If CCP needs to change anything it's the ability to hold vast amounts of space with limited numbers. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ (my spaceblog) http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.co.uk/~ (a¦á_a¦â)
Remiel Pollard Devlin Security Devlin Alliance 63	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:32:00 - [23] - Quote Keen Fallsword wrote: Riot Girl wrote: I don't like the way Africa is poorer than Europe. Let's give them Belgium. try to read the post one more time. question is: How you guys feel about tech moons and overall game politics and balance ? what can be done with this situation to make our game better ? Your question has been answered, numerous times. If you have a problem with something in-game, then deal with it in-game. CCP has nothing to fix here. You want moons? Go get moons. It's entirely YOUR problem if you can't or won't, and it's REALLY disgraceful if you think CCP should hand them to you. That's not what they are for. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
Ifly Uwalk Empire Tax Collection Agency 340	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:33:00 - [24] - Quote Quote: If it lives long enough for CCP to hire some brilliant parallel processing programmers and completely rewrite their underlying code to accomodate lag-free 1000x1000 battles, EVE will probably last until a malevolent player amasses enough wealth or power to ruin the fun. http://eve-search.com/thread/529947-0#12 From 1 Jun 2007.
Riot Girl RADIO RAMPAGE Initiative Mercenaries 447	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:35:00 - [25] - Quote Fine, I'll answer your question. Keen Fallsword wrote: try to read the post one more time. question is: How you guys feel about tech moons and overall game politics and balance ? I feel that politics are imbalanced. The Alliances with more power are more powerful, just like real nations. Quote: what can be done with this situation to make our game better ? We can destroy the powerful alliances, or we can come to the forum and QQ about it.
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 447	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:38:00 - [26] - Quote Ifly Uwalk wrote: Quote: If it lives long enough for CCP to hire some brilliant parallel processing programmers and completely rewrite their underlying code to accomodate lag-free 1000x1000 battles, EVE will probably last until a malevolent player amasses enough wealth or power to ruin the fun. http://eve-search.com/thread/529947-0#12 From 1 Jun 2007. Yeah those guys were really accurate werent they? Some guy from 2007 wrote: Given how we haven't broken a user record for ages, I think Starcraft II will be the push to the end. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
baltec1 Bat Country 2804	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:38:00 - [27] - Quote Ifly Uwalk wrote: Quote: If it lives long enough for CCP to hire some brilliant parallel processing programmers and completely rewrite their underlying code to accomodate lag-free 1000x1000 battles, EVE will probably last until a malevolent player amasses enough wealth or power to ruin the fun. http://eve-search.com/thread/529947-0#12 From 1 Jun 2007. Literally said about every superpower of its age.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 10336	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:39:00 - [28] - Quote Keen Fallsword wrote: How you guys feel about tech moons and overall game politics and balance ? what can be done with this situation to make our game better ? Why does anything need to be done about it? How do you envision this GÇ£betterGÇ¥ game? You're making it sound like there's some kind of problem, but you're not being very clear what it is. What can be done about the current situation? Well, people could stop moping and go and blow up the goons. That would make the game exactly the same, but it would sure stop the never-ending wangst on the forum and would if nothing else make the forums better. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
Harland White Circle of Fortune 10	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:39:00 - [29] - Quote Riot Girl wrote: Or build a new Belgium in Africa, maybe. Actually Belgium is part of the middle east now, by the looks of it. As is most of Europe and its pansy "lets destroy our demographics, culture and society" crowd.
Riot Girl RADIO RAMPAGE Initiative Mercenaries 448	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:41:00 - [30] - Quote Harland White wrote: "lets destroy our demographics, culture and society" crowd. I guess they like to QQ on forums too.

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