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Squizz Caphinator Greater Order Of Destruction Happy Endings 49	Posted - 2012.11.16 15:38:00 - [1] - Quote zKillboard is a new approach by EveKill to killboards using fresh ideas and modern technologies. It's different, but it's a good different. The developers are Karbowiak and Squizz Caphinator, with insight and directions from many others. Please keep in mind zKB is currently beta and there are lots of things to be done yet. Issues: - Fitting Wheel (yes, we're adding this) - OMG BIG ICONS! Yes, we'll be removing those. We hear you! - No campaigns yet. - Other various minor things which you may or may not notice :) Please feel free to give your constructive feedback. http://evewho.com - Alliance and Corporation Member Listings http://evechatter.com - Free Alliance and Corporation forums for all.
Zarian Uphius THORN Syndicate THORN Alliance 23	Posted - 2012.11.16 17:03:00 - [2] - Quote Your killboard is only usable when I zoom completely out via Ctrl+mouse wheel, but by that time I cannot read a thing. Otherwise it takes everything from eve-kill.net and makes it twice as hard to read.
Ashterothi Aideron Robotics 53	Posted - 2012.11.16 19:01:00 - [3] - Quote I think it looks kind of snazzy, but the way to which you get to individual kill reports from the lists seems unintuitive compared to eve-kill. In fact in a related kill report, I wasn't able to find a way to quickly go to a specific kill report without scrolling down to the bottom. Also related kills doesn't show how many more will be involved. When I am hunting for a good kill report, I often use that number to find the most complete report.
Ashterothi Aideron Robotics 53	Posted - 2012.11.16 19:07:00 - [4] - Quote Also, I don't see a way to see kills/losses broken down by month. There seems to be a lot of information that is missing, I hope you bring it all back in some way or another.
Dei Mamaleek 0	Posted - 2012.11.16 22:22:00 - [5] - Quote I really like it, especially using bootstrap - always saves a billion hours using that framework. I'm wondering how you got such accurate market data - were you using the eve market relay or some other system?
Indalecia 69	Posted - 2012.11.16 22:38:00 - [6] - Quote Love the layout - simple and to the point. Where's the source though?
Max Kolonko High Voltage Industries Ash Alliance 210	Posted - 2012.11.17 14:29:00 - [7] - Quote looks terrible. No ship fitting screen (not talking about EFT fit, but fitting visualization) Dont try to copy that useless Battle Clinic KB with the way dropped/destroyed items are shows - we need proper visible distinction (like you have it right now with green background on dropped items) To much information, to big boxes for each thing, we need it more condensed. Read and support: Don't mess with OUR WH's What is Your stance on WH stuff?
Lairel Dallocort Jain Zar Gate 6	Posted - 2012.11.18 20:03:00 - [8] - Quote I just wanted to let you know I got the error, "SMTP Error: Could not authenticate. Mail error: SMTP Error: Could not authenticate." when I registered for the site. I assume that there should be an authentication email, but none came so I don't think I can login to the site.
DelBoy Trades Trotter Independent Traders. 469	Posted - 2012.11.22 09:29:00 - [9] - Quote Eve-kill seems to forget pilots kills all the time now. As an enormous killboard *****, I check my main's killboards religiously, lately every time I look it says I either have no kills or only shows a few recent months of kills. Is this likely to be fixed soon or are we looking at a complete transition to the Zkillboard. I'm also a bit concerned that on EVEKill I have 1700 kills on a particular pilot but only 1100 on the Zboard. Damn nature, you scary!
Karbowiak 4M-CORP BricK sQuAD. 70	Posted - 2012.11.23 02:13:00 - [10] - Quote Zarian Uphius wrote: Your killboard is only usable when I zoom completely out via Ctrl+mouse wheel, but by that time I cannot read a thing. Otherwise it takes everything from eve-kill.net and makes it twice as hard to read. The size thing we are looking at, but it's hard to do much about, since bootstrap was made to look like this.. Ashterothi wrote: I think it looks kind of snazzy, but the way to which you get to individual kill reports from the lists seems unintuitive compared to eve-kill. In fact in a related kill report, I wasn't able to find a way to quickly go to a specific kill report without scrolling down to the bottom. Also related kills doesn't show how many more will be involved. When I am hunting for a good kill report, I often use that number to find the most complete report. the related kill stuff will be overhauled and made easier to navigate and use :) As for the number of involved, i think we put that onto the page :) Ashterothi wrote: Also, I don't see a way to see kills/losses broken down by month. There seems to be a lot of information that is missing, I hope you bring it all back in some way or another. pagination and such is still missing, it is in the code, we just havn't found a way to show and make use of it yet :) Dei wrote: I really like it, especially using bootstrap - always saves a billion hours using that framework. I'm wondering how you got such accurate market data - were you using the eve market relay or some other system? We use EVE-Central i think, and just update the prices often. and otherwise take alot of smarter approaches to pricing (such as BPO/BPC stuff) Indalecia wrote: Love the layout - simple and to the point. Where's the source though? Source is coming once we're done - once we're content with what we have made, we will bring more people aboard to help make it even more awesome :)

Karbowiak 4M-CORP BricK sQuAD. 70	Posted - 2012.11.23 02:13:00 - [11] - Quote Max Kolonko wrote: looks terrible. No ship fitting screen (not talking about EFT fit, but fitting visualization) Dont try to copy that useless Battle Clinic KB with the way dropped/destroyed items are shows - we need proper visible distinction (like you have it right now with green background on dropped items) To much information, to big boxes for each thing, we need it more condensed. Fitting screen is coming back, no worries. As for dropped/destroyed, we have taken much of the rage into concideration and have improved it to a point where we hope and think everyone will be happy. As for information, we show less information on the page than EDK does, it's bigger yes, but that's mainly cause we're using bootstrap to ease development. Lairel Dallocort wrote: I just wanted to let you know I got the error, "SMTP Error: Could not authenticate. Mail error: SMTP Error: Could not authenticate." when I registered for the site. I can still login. Yes, the SMTP stuff can error sometimes, not much we can do about it :( DelBoy Trades wrote: Eve-kill seems to forget pilots kills all the time now. As an enormous killboard *****, I check my main's killboards religiously, lately every time I look it says I either have no kills or only shows a few recent months of kills. Is this likely to be fixed soon or are we looking at a complete transition to the Zkillboard. I'm also a bit concerned that on EVEKill I have 1700 kills on a particular pilot but only 1100 on the Zboard. EVE-KILL is horribly broken, so broken that we started working on zKB instead of trying to fix it. So in a month or two, we're swapping EDK for zKB meaning zKillboard will go onto eve-kill.net - we will still have eve-kill in on a different subdomain for those of you who can't let it go. As for mails, yes, we are moving all mails from EVE-KILL over to zKB, so your stats should look perfectly fine once we get that done :)
Squizz Caphinator Greater Order Of Destruction Happy Endings 52	Posted - 2012.11.26 15:47:00 - [12] - Quote tl;dr: Eve-Kill is now zKillboard's *****. Many of you already know that zKillboard is Eve-Kill's project on a new killboard. One of the big improvements we were able to make with zKB is the ability for efficient KillLog fetching and parsing. Some history: zKB initially fed from Eve-Kill for several months using a shared cached system (that Eve-Kill was in charge of). Then zKB became more mature and began doing its own KillLog fetches while also using the same shared cache system.. And now zKB is in charge of this shared cache and eve-kill is feeding all kills from this cache. In short, rather than me rambling I'll bullet point how this will improve kill fetching overall: - More efficient and reliable KillLog fetching. - Better error handling (<3 you CCP) - Integrated corp director key fetches. If you have four directors each with their own corp key, then zKB can fetch new kills 4 times an hour! (CEO counts as a director) - Don't worry, API verified kills on EveKill will still show up as.... api verified. Next on my list of things to do is importing the ~12 million manually posted killmails from Eve-Kill to zKB. Now that, my friends, will be fun... In the meantime, feel free to ask any questions or say EveKill sucks. You suck too, now go get some kills! http://evewho.com - Alliance and Corporation Member Listings http://evechatter.com - Free Alliance and Corporation forums for all.
AzAkiR NaLDa Real Simple Construction Yulai Federation 7	Posted - 2012.11.26 18:03:00 - [13] - Quote i for one like the look and feel of this zkillboard. it is about time we get some more funky **** instead of the old standardized looks and feels to killboards. i am quite looking forward to hopefully in the future set my own corp up with this board instead of the out-dated EDK.
Brain Gehirn Vera Cruz. Nulli Secunda 8	Posted - 2012.11.27 04:19:00 - [14] - Quote The only reason that people still uses battleclinic is the general rankings (alliances, corporations and pilots) Should be a good idea to make something like that :) What is a signature?
TheSkeptic Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 66	Posted - 2012.11.27 08:58:00 - [15] - Quote Does have a much better look and feel to it... once you adapt. The other kb's are dated, the only thing they have going for them is history. One thing I did notice though, km's don't seem to display values > 1B? http://zkillboard.com/detail/26795277/ http://zkillboard.com/detail/26792863/ The 1B+ valued mods all show as 999,999,999.99 Lord Zim: I do the following in hisec, because it's less effort vs reward than doing the same in nullsec: - Ratting
Squizz Caphinator Greater Order Of Destruction Happy Endings 52	Posted - 2012.11.27 18:15:00 - [16] - Quote TheSkeptic wrote: One thing I did notice though, km's don't seem to display values > 1B? Nice find! Seems we made a mistake in the template engine for formatting those numbers. fixed http://evewho.com - Alliance and Corporation Member Listings http://evechatter.com - Free Alliance and Corporation forums for all.
Squizz Caphinator Greater Order Of Destruction Happy Endings 52	Posted - 2012.11.27 18:16:00 - [17] - Quote Brain Gehirn wrote: The only reason that people still uses battleclinic is the general rankings (alliances, corporations and pilots) Should be a good idea to make something like that :) All this is already planned. http://evewho.com - Alliance and Corporation Member Listings http://evechatter.com - Free Alliance and Corporation forums for all.
iskflakes Magnets Inc. 100	Posted - 2012.11.28 15:57:00 - [18] - Quote Looks good. WTB some proper API documentation though. Track your wealth with EVE Stats: https://ohheck.co.uk/EVEStats/home.php
Squizz Caphinator Greater Order Of Destruction Happy Endings 52	Posted - 2012.11.28 20:04:00 - [19] - Quote iskflakes wrote: Looks good. WTB some proper API documentation though. How much isk are you willing to pay? :) Anyhow, its funny that you mention that as we just overhauled the API documentation. Enjoy! http://evewho.com - Alliance and Corporation Member Listings http://evechatter.com - Free Alliance and Corporation forums for all.
Squizz Caphinator Greater Order Of Destruction Happy Endings 52	Posted - 2012.11.28 20:06:00 - [20] - Quote DelBoy Trades wrote: Eve-kill seems to forget pilots kills all the time now. As an enormous killboard *****, I check my main's killboards religiously, lately every time I look it says I either have no kills or only shows a few recent months of kills. Is this likely to be fixed soon or are we looking at a complete transition to the Zkillboard. I'm also a bit concerned that on EVEKill I have 1700 kills on a particular pilot but only 1100 on the Zboard. This is because zKB only has API verified kills at the moment. So that 600 kill discrepancy means there are 600 kills that zKB doesn't have the CCP provided xml. Yes, we will be importing manual mails, so no worries about that. http://evewho.com - Alliance and Corporation Member Listings http://evechatter.com - Free Alliance and Corporation forums for all.

Marcel Devereux Aideron Robotics 175	Posted - 2012.11.30 18:41:00 - [21] - Quote Can we get the number of kills for each faction added to the top 10 page? For example how many of the following kills in Aideron Robotics were faction warfare kills? http://zkillboard.com/corporation/1894214152/top/
Ms Sexy Pussey Thumpers 0	Posted - 2012.12.01 22:15:00 - [22] - Quote The kill-board is crap due to this main reason, the board has been designed around one focus greed! WTF is this **? Quote:** "please login or register to view top kills" So not only do you want advertisement and CCP to give you money for a new server but you also want to collect a mass of emails from eve players for some strange reason.. I might design a nice simple, responsive site togive you guys some competition. It will share kill-mail information with a HIVE, the hive will link to a cluster of donated mysql databases all linked with at-least 2 copies of 1 killmail randomly distributed, a truly open system for the community.
Squizz Caphinator Greater Order Of Destruction Happy Endings 53	Posted - 2012.12.02 02:18:00 - [23] - Quote Ms Sexy wrote: The kill-board is crap due to this main reason, the board has been designed around one focus greed! WTF is this **? Quote:** "please login or register to view top kills" So not only do you want advertisement and CCP to give you money for a new server but you also want to collect a mass of emails from eve players for some strange reason.. I might design a nice simple, responsive site togive you guys some competition. It will share kill-mail information with a HIVE, the hive will link to a cluster of donated mysql databases all linked with at-least 2 copies of 1 killmail randomly distributed, a truly open system for the community. Wow, aren't you jumping the gun a bit? We're restricting that in beta because some of the queries haven't been tuned just yet, and we only want to hit the database if we have to. Relax, this isn't going to be permanent. http://evewho.com - Alliance and Corporation Member Listings http://evechatter.com - Free Alliance and Corporation forums for all.
Karbowiak 4M-CORP BricK sQuAD. 70	Posted - 2012.12.02 02:21:00 - [24] - Quote Ms Sexy wrote: The kill-board is crap due to this main reason, the board has been designed around one focus greed! WTF is this **? Quote:** "please login or register to view top kills" So not only do you want advertisement and CCP to give you money for a new server but you also want to collect a mass of emails from eve players for some strange reason.. I might design a nice simple, responsive site togive you guys some competition. It will share kill-mail information with a HIVE, the hive will link to a cluster of donated mysql databases all linked with at-least 2 copies of 1 killmail randomly distributed, a truly open system for the community. Competition? That'd be the first in a few years, i for one welcome it!
Ms Sexy Pussey Thumpers 0	Posted - 2012.12.02 17:43:00 - [25] - Quote Karbowiak wrote: As for your idea of a hive thing, it could most likely work - it could also fall on it's face real hard. I'm mostly seeing it doing the latter Oh i can make it happen don't worry about that, just take a look at my portfolio www.froggycreative.com. However, i would rather engage with projects that are already out there for the community, if this killboard doesn't turn into a ransoming monopoly on other 3d party developers or users then i am happy to contribute to this project if it is needed. However, from what i can see that doesn't seem the case..
Karbowiak 4M-CORP BricK sQuAD. 70	Posted - 2012.12.02 19:12:00 - [26] - Quote Ms Sexy wrote: Karbowiak wrote: As for your idea of a hive thing, it could most likely work - it could also fall on it's face real hard. I'm mostly seeing it doing the latter Oh i can make it happen don't worry about that, just take a look at my portfolio www.froggycreative.com. However, i would rather engage with projects that are already out there for the community, if this killboard doesn't turn into a ransoming monopoly on other 3d party developers or users then i am happy to contribute to this project if it is needed. We don't want to ransom people, nor do we want to run a monopoly. We have always been open about the board, and have always had APIs open to people. We have also supported our competition by allowing them to use our APIs. As far as 3rd party developers go, we have always supported them, and will do even more with zKillboard. By both integrating their services into the site, and by linking to them. We obv. don't expect them to link back, but if they would, great! Anyway, as far as your concerns for us becoming these (and i'm paraphrazing here) abusive assholes - fear not.
Tornii CTRL-Q Iron Oxide. 18	Posted - 2012.12.03 06:58:00 - [27] - Quote Been using this one for about two weeks and it's a pleasure to view, unlike regular killboards. "If the essence of life is information carried in DNA, then society and civilization are just colossal memory systems."
Risingson 22	Posted - 2012.12.03 10:57:00 - [28] - Quote i would like to propose 3 modifiers for the api: - modifier to not respond items - modifier to not respond attackers - modifier to respond involved ally/corp stats thanks for a great service ! Eveeye.com-á- New Eden Bordcomputer Systems
Squizz Caphinator Greater Order Of Destruction Happy Endings 54	Posted - 2012.12.03 18:34:00 - [29] - Quote Risingson wrote: - modifier to not respond items - modifier to not respond attackers Done! The modifiers are no-items and no-attackers Risingson wrote: - modifier to respond involved ally/corp stats Won't happen today, but it will happen :) Thanks for the good ideas! http://evewho.com - Alliance and Corporation Member Listings http://evechatter.com - Free Alliance and Corporation forums for all.
Brain Gehirn Vera Cruz. Nulli Secunda 8	Posted - 2012.12.03 20:08:00 - [30] - Quote I miss the "view kill" button/link inside the related kills. Its always good to see kills from that list Corporation API's are listed as pilot API at the "me" page What is a signature?



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