What is holding FW back in my opinion is more the OGB alts which allow a static player to camp plexes in ships which punch twice or three times above their weight, which gets very boring very quickly, so no one engages them and the situation gets rather tired. Whenever CCP brings the nerf bat onto this will really address alt proliferation and allow small gangs to attack certain other players faction fit pimped cruisers with the booster on the field. You'll get most of the benefit with all of the risk you should be taking for paying two subs and only ever risking nything with one.

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What is holding FW back in my opinion is more the OGB alts which allow a static player to camp plexes in ships which punch twice or three times above their weight, which gets very boring very quickly, so no one engages them and the situation gets rather tired. Whenever CCP brings the nerf bat onto this will really address alt proliferation and allow small gangs to attack certain other players faction fit pimped cruisers with the booster on the field. You'll get most of the benefit with all of the risk you should be taking for paying two subs and only ever risking nything with one.

Without boosts, you simply cant fight 2v1 outnumbered in a minor plex unless your ganking complete nubs.

Re-read Christine Peeveepeeskis response in this thread - none of that very small gang they run would be possible without boosts. I applaud them for hanging around and having the cahunas to do what they do. I'm not convinced that a lot of the general public decrying boosts as an absolute i-win button have ever put themselves in that situation.

The only 2v1 fights with boosts are when you gank an unsuspecting soloist.

The problem isn't that RTS or I can't weigh the odds - it is precisely because we can, and he avoids fights he can't win

Though outside a few personalities there really isnt that many people who wonder round with their boosters relative to the unboosted fw pvp out there.

HAHAAHAAA!!!!! Says a guy who will absolutely never, ever undock so much as a vanilla t1 frigate without having OGB in position, attempting to portray himself as person who actually wants pvp...

The presence of OGB's is the primary factor involved when it comes to not getting the individual fight (microscale) but is merely a contributing factor when it comes to fights as a whole (macroscale).

The large plex fights from days of old is not coming back as long as the dock-block is in effect, they were driven by both sides ability to reship immediately and could go on for hours on end. With one side requiring 5-10x the time to reship upon ship loss the plex itself is effectively lost as enemy has repaired, re-/upshipped and at optimals in addition to timer having lost a big chunk.

Have seen "Use POS" as an argument .. in this age of alts, spies and thieves is there any corp/person willing to open their POS hangars to ragtag militia or park ships in bubble? Only instance where the use of POS is a viable 'solution' is when it comes to large-to-huge corps with paranoid recruitment personnel.
Have seen "use nearby high-sec" as an argument .. 5-10x the time spent as opposed to in-system .. see above.

The dock-block is a good mechanic, but it should have been implemented as part of the upgrade paths so that it contributed to the urgency in regards to killing an attacking force rather than just waiting for ones own prime time and letting loose the alt swarm when all is clear..

You cant even complain about large alliances any more since you are in an alliance that has a cap fleet and also has had a supercarrier :)

You give plenty of good reasons why dock blocking is bad. But then you say it is good if it is part of the upgrade path.

Who is going to put a bunch of ships in a system when the enemy just needs to dump lp in the I hub and you are locked out of them? Making docking rights depend on upgrades is just as bad of an Idea....

On more serious note, I of course fly with links when they are available since 100% of my enemies fly with ones but unlike you, I can actually take fights when I dont have them.

It is assuming a system cannot receive LP towards its upgrades if it is contested (that is how it is now, right?) .. idea is that one side or another makes a determined assault on a system and once it hits 50% contested or something the attackers can start stockpiling in system thus making the final push all the more ferocious.

If however things are as you insinuate, that LP can be dumped at any time, then oh my ******* God what the hell is wrong with CCP (and me for assuming logic behind design and not triple-checking ) .. doubly so now that bleeds are a fraction of previously ..

Not only that but if the ability to upgrade was restricted by contested status it would also mean they'd have to aggressively defend to get those awesome prodcution slots!!!! = PEW!

Taking one minor and getting docking rights might be a tad useless though, if set that low then the dock-block might as well be removed .. was thinking something like must by less than 5% contested for system to accept LP dumps and dock-block is tied to level 2-3 which should be around 50% contested with current bleed rates

in my own personal opinion, the worst thing about faction war is faction war. I like the plexes since they promote equal hardware battles to some extent but that's about it.

Any game system that introduces a strategic goal will get in the way of good fights because it introduces a stimulus to win fights. People who just want to win fights don't create good fights. LP/tiers/system control. It can all be canned imho.

there is no point to think about solution to fix FW, clearly it will not work with little tweaks, and CCP will never use enough resources to make it work.

better to forget whole FW and do something else.