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Eonov
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Posted - 2005.04.20 19:08:00 -
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Once again a solstice and allied attack on a TFC POS has been taken away from the attacking forces, after 7 hours of attacking thier POS in 98q we suffer an unsheduled downtime just as the station was about to go into hardened mode, guess what, when we logged back in (straight after the hotfix l, we warp back to continue and hey presto the POS os back up at about 70% and suddenly hitting at 6 times the damage that it was before. so.. being game loving people this time we petitioned and surprise surprise the petition gets answered with a " yeh weve had that before sorry but nothing we can do, enjoy ur game !!! ".
Id like all players to be aware that this is the kind of unacceptable answer holds even tho fraps and screenies plus combat logs have been deemed invalid (we offered it all),
Hopefully some1 high up in ccp will deem this situation unacceptable and allow things to be put back to thier correct state (no chance). @ ccp, when i first joined this game i thought ur in game service was superb, in the last few days it is begining to appear that it is in fact complete ******.
edited by Eris Discordia
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RichThugster
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Posted - 2005.04.20 19:09:00 -
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Edited by: RichThugster on 20/04/2005 19:18:06 Signed
People Have Paid, real life money, and spent vast amounts of Real life time to attack this. It is frustrating that at the end, we get nothing.
Drugs are bad. Don't mess with weed Don't mess with mushrooms Don't mess with LSD |

Dol Amroth
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Posted - 2005.04.20 19:10:00 -
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Edited by: Dol Amroth on 20/04/2005 19:19:37 Signed. I would hope for at least fair play in this game and the fact remains that it's not being provided. When the fault is realized should it not be reconciled? Should this be pushed around as to simply defray the emotional charge of the wronged, I feel our argument is substantial and valid and the lack of support from those intially involved is leaving something to be desired. This isn't an effort to enact change, it's simply to offer a fair gaming environemt for all parties.
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Martinus Crimson
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Posted - 2005.04.20 19:10:00 -
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2nd time this week ... Worth Noting BOTH POS where on-line both where shooting. -----------------------
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Number One
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Posted - 2005.04.20 19:11:00 -
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Edited by: Number One on 20/04/2005 19:16:42 RRWWaarr I think CCP can burn in hell for how they handle things now days. At the very least make them fly around in killable ships like we have to. I thought they were people just like us.... There is no good or evil in the universe only POWER!
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The Spider
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Posted - 2005.04.20 19:13:00 -
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signed. robbed. again.

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Raul Kraz
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Posted - 2005.04.20 19:14:00 -
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Edited by: Raul Kraz on 20/04/2005 19:15:04 signed
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Loomina
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Posted - 2005.04.20 19:16:00 -
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Signed *_*
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Sholakaus
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Posted - 2005.04.20 19:16:00 -
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signed
2nd time of my wasted time.
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Wicke
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Posted - 2005.04.20 19:16:00 -
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This is absolutely rediculous. 12 hours of playing time wasted. The lack of GM support is becoming alarmingly noticeable.
I think that those involved should atleast get 1 day of free game play. Sig Broken but its uber. -.- |

Ajaya
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Posted - 2005.04.20 19:17:00 -
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Edited by: Ajaya on 20/04/2005 19:20:33 Signed. And Also, Eonov, it was aprox 10 hours spent on this. I personally came back from being afk to log off and go to bed at aprox 2am my time... I heard the call for assistance w/ a POS takedown and I came to assist. It is aprox 12pm my time- 10 hours, when we got back in from the DT. The POS was about 15 minutes from going into reinforced mode... the enemy franticly offlining and unanchoring as many of the expensive units as possible to salvage what they could. We had destroyed several of their ships in system and kept them from bringing in more reinforcements. All while tanking a large rail gun, a medium rail gun, several medium arty's, and small lasers the entire time.
This is the second time in less than a week that CCP, through their GM's, has told us so sorry, we f'd up, but we won't do anything to help. The timing of this all makes me feel as though there is nothing that can be acomplished in this game fairly anymore, as the first time this happened a GM took their POS out of reinforced mode and put it 100% after they petitioned not getting an evemail about the attack (regardless of the fact that they were scouting our forces the entire time).
This is disgustingly pathetic service and a slap in the face to us and anyone else involved in these endeavors.
I am very angry w/ CCP. 10 more hours gone, all that ammo, and two lost ships by allies during the endeavor. I know many of us are considering canceling our accounts... I for one feel CCP (not the GM's) needs to step up and fix this asap. 
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Luther Kincaid
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Posted - 2005.04.20 19:17:00 -
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Edited by: Luther Kincaid on 20/04/2005 19:19:52 I'm also very annoyed at this, this is the second time in a week. More galling is the fact that when we petition to have the situation rectified, it is rejected out of hand. I love this game, I freely admit that I'm addicted to it. But the events of the last few days have very much soured that. I'm deeply dissatisfied with the apparant one sided treatment of solstice by the GMs on this matter. I hope this is resolved satisfactorily, so that I can continue enjoy the game I love
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Kraz
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Posted - 2005.04.20 19:18:00 -
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Deffo signed. JQA took down 4 POS b4 this patch, now the system is borked 
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Diablique
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Posted - 2005.04.20 19:19:00 -
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Ships were lost and ammo was spent. If they are going to replenish TFC's pos's shields, the least that they can do is return the ships and ammo that was lost.
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Space Defiler
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Posted - 2005.04.20 19:20:00 -
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over the past 5 years of mmo's the only thing i find as a turn off from a game is broken content... that i dont mind if gm's help out in these or atleast try too.. but taking the easy way out.. good luck keeping ur paying costumers
robed again... signed.... not too happy 
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Swordmyst
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Posted - 2005.04.20 19:22:00 -
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Signed.
I have been involved as many have here with both engagements and have spend a combined total of 10-12 hours between the two engagements to have both taken back due to a bug or a fix. I am sorry but after todays 2nd round this time with ship losses, I find this matter unacceptable and intolerable now that the GMs have replied with the approach"Sorry can't be fixed" This when we have logs showing what happened with time stamps all over them. Its starting to undermine the faith of many veteran players involved as well as the spirit of the game. I feel at the VERY least restituition of ships and gear for the pilots who lost ships. Perhaps the approach of " What can we do to fix this" Rather than"Gee sorry We can't help you but enjoy the game!"
This matter is beyond words at this point which is a rare thing for me.
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Val Amon
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Posted - 2005.04.20 19:29:00 -
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ugh Shooting stations suck, pos or conquerable. To many reasons to list, but this is a new one for me. _ _ How many pilots does it take to wire a Flux Capacitor? 3, 1 to wire it and 2 to talk about how the old one was better. |

Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2005.04.20 19:56:00 -
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We do appreciate constructive criticism but threats that involving canceling your accounts do not count as contructive.
I recommend to be patient and polite while dealing with GM's and if you are not happy with an answer then you can ask for a senior GM to review your case. With this particular event it might be helpful to submit a bug report as well.
Please keep your posts ontopic and polite, criticism is welcome but flaming is not.
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |

SurVie
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Posted - 2005.04.20 20:03:00 -
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2nd time that we have been wasting time on a pos.
there goes 12 hours of playing time. + the 6 hours from the first time. ============================================= (\_ (O.* (> <) This is Bunny. This bunny was mutelated because a hunter shot this defenseless animal in the right side of the head. |

Wicke
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Posted - 2005.04.20 20:15:00 -
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Edited by: Wicke on 20/04/2005 20:20:55
Originally by: Eris Discordia We do appreciate constructive criticism but threats that involving canceling your accounts do not count as contructive.
I recommend to be patient and polite while dealing with GM's and if you are not happy with an answer then you can ask for a senior GM to review your case. With this particular event it might be helpful to submit a bug report as well.
Please keep your posts ontopic and polite, criticism is welcome but flaming is not.
So now would be the time to fix the situation...
Thank you for unlocking this thread.
Sig Broken but its uber. -.- |

fuze
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Posted - 2005.04.20 20:18:00 -
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Signed ___________________________ Favorite bumpersticker of the month: My head hurts! |

Luther Kincaid
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Posted - 2005.04.20 20:38:00 -
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so complaints and *****ing aside.. if we decide to attack another TFC POS, are we going to be wasting our time? we clearly have the forces and resources to take down even an online POS.. they should be down by 2 POS by now.
if we do attack, what can we do to make sure we're not screwed for the 3rd time? we petitioned a GM to make sure there would be no problems BEFORE this attack.. so what more can we do?
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Defcon2
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Posted - 2005.04.20 20:40:00 -
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signed
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Bedrock
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Posted - 2005.04.20 20:43:00 -
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Edited by: Bedrock on 20/04/2005 20:45:46 That blows Signed
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Katamarino
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Posted - 2005.04.20 20:46:00 -
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Signed.
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Takrolimus
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Posted - 2005.04.20 20:51:00 -
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theyve done this to us too,
SIGNED
THEY FIXED IT FOR FA WHEN THEY ATTACKED TPAR AND THE SERVER CRASHED
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Dee sNider
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Posted - 2005.04.20 20:52:00 -
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Edited by: Dee sNider on 20/04/2005 20:52:32 If the POS system isnt working, please take them out of the game.
Signed.
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Face Lifter
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Posted - 2005.04.20 21:05:00 -
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I agree that the GM response was totally one sided and harmful to a lot of players, who didn't break any rules.
POS are already very, very hard to take down, I'd go as far as to say they have been poorly designed in that respect. And when GMs intervene on side of POS defenders that's unacceptable behavior.
ok, for constructive criticism: I think the people involved should be compensated for their losses of ships and ammo. This still wouldn't be enough tho since nothing can return their wasted time. Also, in the future CCP/GMs should stop being so biased against POS attackers.
If they really need to be biased against something, why don't they do it against corp theives and scammers.
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Luther Kincaid
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Posted - 2005.04.20 21:12:00 -
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agree 100% face and Rich, well said
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Abraxus
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Posted - 2005.04.20 21:58:00 -
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A similar thing happened to us involving a station down to 20% that went back to 100%...the response?
Tough! 
Stations have 40million shields....but hey they can do what they like 
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