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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
291
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Posted - 2012.12.21 15:05:00 -
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Alexia Morgan wrote:But it's going to take a lot more than a 5 million ISK bounty on my head to stop my campaign
As much as it pains me to agree with you on, well, anything really... you are right about this part. Five million isn't squat anymore. I've picked up more than twice that already and I'm just a miner.
And yeah, bounty alts are quite common. Anyone who mines can expect to get a bounty from those "minerbumping" nitwits - and one of those was placed on me by a bounty alt as well. Heck, might have been the same guy/girl that you mentioned (was it Sukie Loober?) So that's two things we actually have in common. (The other two contributors we some pirate who I had never met and - shock! - a random Goon).
But pretty much anything under fifty million can be pretty much ignored in hi-sec because it's still not worth the gank, and null-sec... well, they just twitch gank anything that moves and don't even check for bounties until they're looting the wreck. All that's changed is that now I use shuttles instead of my pod.
So don't let it get to you. Everyone has bounties these days. There's twats out there who don't even need a reason (see above). Besides, if you've really been doing all you claim to then wouldn't it actually be more insulting not to get a bounty? Someone as feverent as you should take pride in seeing how high they can get it.
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Alexia Morgan
Matari Raiders HQ Matari Raiders
66
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Posted - 2012.12.21 20:40:00 -
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To be honest with you, I was insulted it was only 5 million ISK. |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
301
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Posted - 2012.12.23 10:58:00 -
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And again, as much as it pains me to agree with you, I have to say: That's the spirit! EvE Forum Bingo |
Kithrus
Deus Fides Empire Curatores Veritatis Alliance
224
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Posted - 2012.12.23 13:52:00 -
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Alexia Morgan wrote:Someone placed a bounty on my head
A bounty was placed on my head by a fresh new clone purpose-built for placing bounties. I contacted them to find out why, and their reply was:
"I don't ask why, I just take 10% from others."
So I asked how much it would cost to find out who paid him to place the bounty. He replied with:
"It's an anonymous service. Names would be bad for business."
The interesting thing is that I've done nothing to annoy anyone. Except for CVA and all of the Amarr, that is. So I'm blaming them for it.
Someone in CVA wants me dead, and have put a bounty on my head to help achieve that goal.
I'm not surprised. But it's going to take a lot more than a 5 million ISK bounty on my head to stop my campaign to rid this galaxy of those vermin.
I don't want you dead I want you to wake up. |
Rorin Cutter
Deus Fides Empire Curatores Veritatis Alliance
30
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Posted - 2012.12.23 21:18:00 -
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Alexia Morgan wrote:Someone placed a bounty on my head
A bounty was placed on my head by a fresh new clone purpose-built for placing bounties. I contacted them to find out why, and their reply was:
"I don't ask why, I just take 10% from others."
So I asked how much it would cost to find out who paid him to place the bounty. He replied with:
"It's an anonymous service. Names would be bad for business."
The interesting thing is that I've done nothing to annoy anyone. Except for CVA and all of the Amarr, that is. So I'm blaming them for it.
Someone in CVA wants me dead, and have put a bounty on my head to help achieve that goal.
I'm not surprised. But it's going to take a lot more than a 5 million ISK bounty on my head to stop my campaign to rid this galaxy of those vermin.
Hail Pilot Morgan,
Sorry but why would CVA want to kill you again? You have not done anthing to us since your U'K days, years ago. Even the corp your in now is not KOS. |
Alexia Morgan
Matari Raiders HQ Matari Raiders
144
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Posted - 2013.01.09 23:34:00 -
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Since starting my campaign to free the Matari slaves and destroy their Amarr slavers, interest in my campaign has been extremely high. However, interest in actually joining me has been minimal to nonexistent.
This apathy for the plight of the enslaved Matari is sad. I'm saddened and angered that so many people just don't care enough to actually do anything.
No wonder the Amarr get away with it.
But it will not stop me. I, and those who have joined me so far, are prepared to do something. We're prepared to actually do something to free our people.
I call out to those who have verbally supported me and this campaign - put your actions where your mouth is, and join the cause. If you support it, do so with more than just words.
Help bring freedom to those that have none. |
Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
173
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Posted - 2013.01.10 00:46:00 -
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Perhaps you should get a bit more experience as a capsuleer before leading any glorious revolutions. Why not join Ushra'Khan or Electus Matari? I'd be able to conveniently kill you then. |
Kazzzi
Heathen Legion
144
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Posted - 2013.01.10 00:58:00 -
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I recall that pretty much every slave in Provi was either liberated by coalition forces or murdered by CVA's allies. Did they start getting more already? Does CVA even practice slavery anymore?
I've been out of the loop for a while. Somebody give me a TL;DR on the situation please. |
Simon Louvaki
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2013.01.10 01:45:00 -
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Alexia Morgan wrote:
Help bring freedom to those that have none.
What do you plan to do with those people once you have freed them? once you have ripped them from the only life they have ever known, torn from their homes and people the what bit of life they have?
Please understand, slavery is not something I support, but at the same time I find that people overlook what comes after you have 'freed' them. Immigration into the Republic hasn't been the smoothest process and the borders are filled with refugee camps because the Republic simply doesn't know what to do with the influx of hundreds of millions of new freeman coming into their systems. Even then, the Amarrian Matar slaves may be genetically Matari, but that's where it ends for many.
What you are essentially doing is destroying the only world they know and tossing them into the uncaring 'freedom' of the cluster that can be far harsher than a Holders whip. "Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu." |
Halete
Alexylva Paradox
610
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Posted - 2013.01.10 09:14:00 -
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This entire conflict is tragic and increasingly distressing. The destruction of Matari Amarrian faithfuls' lives and those of their families, of ethnic Amarrians and their own families, the quality of life that many 'freemen' suffer in refugee camps - not all of whom who wish to be there...
Just how long is the Republic going to call themselves liberators in order to cruelly destroy the livelihoods of their brothers and sisters who follow the Amarr faith?
For just how long are we going to stand by and watch this infantile government neglect it's people in the pursuit of mass-destruction and genocide?
And how long, exactly, is the excuse of the events of the Minmatar Dark Days going to justify the Republic's actions, even as the Empire continues to free Minmatar slaves?
I don't truly believe the Republican dogs will lay down their warlike ways even when every last Minmatar living within the Empire is recognized as a full citizen. This is a lost generation. Scores of my kin have been taught only to fight and hate by this system. Trading chains for shackles, I am free. |
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Kentt Em'asep
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
69
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Posted - 2013.01.10 10:25:00 -
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I agree. It is tragic. If it was not meant to be that, then it would be a peace talk, which has been ongoing since... well for a long time. Nothing has majorly changed from those talks. Amarr is viewed as a bunch of uptight slavers who only care of their imaginary god and the Republic is viewed as primitive savages who must be saved from themselves. Sometimes, a hard hit in the head can get slow people to think and actually see what is going on.
Alexia Morgan wrote:I strongly urge all Amarr to take heed of the danger threatening them at this stage. Leave Providence, abandon those who militarily support slavery, and refuse to fight in defence of them and in defence of slavery.
Help us free our people, and the bloodshed will be less than what it has the potential to be.
Do not let genocide come to your door. You have the power to control what is or is not inevitable. Ms Morgan has already sent warnings. Plenty of them. If one was Matari, and he/she wished to side by their Amarrian counterpart, then they can leave. Anyone that stays will be viewed as a possible threat. It is that simple.
Quote:Please understand, slavery is not something I support, but at the same time I find that people overlook what comes after you have 'freed' them. Immigration into the Republic hasn't been the smoothest process and the borders are filled with refugee camps because the Republic simply doesn't know what to do with the influx of hundreds of millions of new freeman coming into their systems. Even then, the Amarrian Matar slaves may be genetically Matari, but that's where it ends for many. I hear you. I have been thinking of some ideas to help those who do wish to have a second chance at live without the worry of having a holder. Knowing the Republic has not been doing well with the overflow of immigration, sending them there may not be the best of ideas. Maybe if they wish to, they can start an eighth tribe in a location of their choosing. ~"That's right. Today, tomorrow, the next day, and the day after that, and the day after that...from here on until forever, every time you look at my avatar - you'll see this scowl." ~"Forever?" ~"Yes - forever. It's what I do." |
Simon Louvaki
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2013.01.10 16:26:00 -
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Kentt Em'asep wrote: I hear you. I have been thinking of some ideas to help those who do wish to have a second chance at live without the worry of having a holder. Knowing the Republic has not been doing well with the overflow of immigration, sending them there may not be the best of ideas. Maybe if they wish to, they can start an eighth tribe in a location of their choosing.
Aye, but what about those who have no desire to be 'free'? What I don't see being taken into consideration is whether or not these individual Matari even want what their liberators are offering, and I haven't seen any choice given to them either. So far, every liberator seems to be under the impression that whatever it is they have to offer the slaves is infinitely better than what they have under their Holder, and in some cases that's true, but its certainly not so across the board.
There are plenty of slaves who are mistreated by their masters, but at the same time there are likely far more who are served an indifferent fate. Slaves are an investment, both financially and spiritually to the Amarr Holder. I've heard plenty of horror stories of beating and whips and Vitoc but I remain skeptical that this is so for the vast majority of slaves. It just doesn't make sense to invest money into the well being of a slave to waste it away by beating them half to death and force them to preform poorly at whatever job it is they were bought for.
Slaves are guaranteed food, a place to stay, a safe place to raise a family and work until they die. If a Holder is truly righteous, then freedom is guaranteed through faith, though I realize not every Holder is truly so faithful. Outside those compounds, they are afforded the chance to rise above that and even exceed that, but its a world they know little of, full of people who are far crueler than even some of the harshest slave masters who will use you and leave you for the buzzards.
I'd like to see more liberators concerned about just what their doing to their kinsmen. "Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu." |
Kentt Em'asep
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
69
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Posted - 2013.01.10 21:28:00 -
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Simon Louvaki wrote:Aye, but what about those who have no desire to be 'free'? What I don't see being taken into consideration is whether or not these individual Matari even want what their liberators are offering, and I haven't seen any choice given to them either. So far, every liberator seems to be under the impression that whatever it is they have to offer the slaves is infinitely better than what they have under their Holder, and in some cases that's true, but its certainly not so across the board.
There are plenty of slaves who are mistreated by their masters, but at the same time there are likely far more who are served an indifferent fate. Slaves are an investment, both financially and spiritually to the Amarr Holder. I've heard plenty of horror stories of beating and whips and Vitoc but I remain skeptical that this is so for the vast majority of slaves. It just doesn't make sense to invest money into the well being of a slave to waste it away by beating them half to death and force them to preform poorly at whatever job it is they were bought for.
Slaves are guaranteed food, a place to stay, a safe place to raise a family and work until they die. If a Holder is truly righteous, then freedom is guaranteed through faith, though I realize not every Holder is truly so faithful. Outside those compounds, they are afforded the chance to rise above that and even exceed that, but its a world they know little of, full of people who are far crueler than even some of the harshest slave masters who will use you and leave you for the buzzards.
I'd like to see more liberators concerned about just what their doing to their kinsmen.
True... there are those who like their lives and don't want it to change. If we free them by killing who they call family, we would look much like the bad guys from any Amarrian story. For those Matari who do not desire freedom, it is up to their Amarr holders (or the Matari living under them) to take up the option of relocating their homes and families away from Providence so they can continue their lives. That is one of the reasons Ms Morgan has been giving the warnings I am sure. Their choice in if they want freedom all lies in if they choose to stay or to go. They don't want to see themselves liberatorated, then they should leave out of harm's way and out of the possible war-zones.
If I was able to sit down with every single Matari and ask,"Do you want to be free?" I would. But with how much people there is, that is not possible to complete in their livetime. ~"That's right. Today, tomorrow, the next day, and the day after that, and the day after that...from here on until forever, every time you look at my avatar - you'll see this scowl." ~"Forever?" ~"Yes - forever. It's what I do." |
Maire Gheren
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
89
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Posted - 2013.01.10 22:27:00 -
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And what about the free Amarrian citizens who happen to have been born with Matar parentage?
It is very easy to make a statement that people should uproot their entire life and move sight unseen to a far away and foreign planet. Arranging for large numbers of people to be able to actually make that trip, and to be able to make a new life on the other planets that are more politically agreeable to the people feeling that it is reasonable to dictate such things, is not as easy. |
Eli Green
The Arrow Project
407
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Posted - 2013.01.10 22:59:00 -
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Maire Gheren wrote:And what about the free Amarrian citizens who happen to have been born with Matar parentage?
It is very easy to make a statement that people should uproot their entire life and move sight unseen to a far away and foreign planet. Arranging for large numbers of people to be able to actually make that trip, and to be able to make a new life on the other planets that are more politically agreeable to the people feeling that it is reasonable to dictate such things, is not as easy.
Apparently they too will be victims of this mindless slaughter, as is always the result when you paint a people with one colour. wumbo |
Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists Late Night Alliance
106
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Posted - 2013.01.19 14:16:00 -
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As for the op, Ushra Khan, is irrelevant to mainstream Matari militia, living in the ass end of the universe far away from the front lines. All the while pretending to be the main player in militia bestowing their graces on Iron Oxide to stay in Arzad (as if they can control whe people live), belittling and offending the core relavant alliances and corps as well as embellishing its true effectiveness.
UK of today is not the UK it was in its glory days, when the very corporations who make up today's main militia alliances helped them succeed in null sec (the ones they berate today). UK's leadership, purpose and reputation has changed. It is hardly a microbe of what it was.
The sooner they get with the program the sooner they can restore their reputation and become relevant to the goals of militia. Not holding my breathe. They are too **** arrogant and full of themselves they can see out of their ***'s right now.
The amarr chose to irradicate them first in their backend system because they are the minmatar militias week link and easier to exterminate due to how isolated they made themselves from mainstream militia and their poor relations with the main militia alliances like ours. as soon as the Amarr are through with them in their backend system, the amarr will refocus on the systems they value closer to home.... The front lines.
Is best for them and the rest of militia to discuss with us and other mainstream alliance leaders what the goals are, what is needed and where, before making silly decrees and accusations against others in militia and assuming they can act as the militias mouthpiece on what is best. Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. www.ross-fw.net
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Xuixien
Perkone Caldari State
235
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:14:00 -
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I'm reading this and all I see is more Brutor posturing. Everyone vs Everyone Xuixien - Space Cat, Queen of Rens |
Athena Belvar
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.02.04 18:29:00 -
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Brutor postering?..lol At least we can back it up there. |
Azure Blooder
Singularity Tech Syndycate
0
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Posted - 2013.02.04 20:42:00 -
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You got nice spirit there kid. Heck both sides have good spirit going on. This looks to be a great bash. The faithful Amarr with God at their back. While Matari with the rightful vengence in their hands, duking it out for a great war. And once the dust settles what is next? Probably another great war between the two great races. In the end though it's guys on the side lines like me, shaking their heads, wondering will they actually do anything else. Probably not. At least we all get some nice entertainment out of it.
By the way, though I am Amarr, by no means do I support slavery in anyway. Nor do I support the Amarr's faith. I'm just a fringe pilot giving a little bit of his mind to the people here. |
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