We need more female gamers to even the testosterone out.

/c

Mother Jones as forwarded by Roger Ebert (of all people).

http://www.motherjones.com/mixed-media/2012/11/women-video-game-industry-twitter-1reasonwhy

Please, no trolling. This topic is an issue in EVE esp after the article the other day at mittani.com

We need more female gamers to even the testosterone out.

/c

CCP needs to hire more women to design the clothing for the NEX. Its not a sexist remark, its just true that women know what looks better when it comes to clothing. I let my girlfriend (not the inflatable one...never the 2 shall meet) pick out my clothes and never had any negative feedback.

the sheer amount of estrogen flowing here will kill any manly instincts and we can all join together and sing Kumbyah while drinking Appletinis....

I must have missed the article from Mittani...Care to link or elaborate?

After reading through the article I think it really depends on the person. Some women love the attention they get as girl gamers and have no issue with it. Some women hate it. Some women provoke the attention they get and then complain when they get it. Some women want the attention but don't get it at all.

I think the issue the article is referring to is less about how women feel in the industry and more about why there are less women than men. Problem is...they are looking down the wrong path.

I think there are fewer women in the gaming industry as devs because of several reasons. One is that there are fewer women working than men. More women are housewives and mothers staying home then there would be of men staying home while the wife works. I would suspect that game development or programming in general would be less of an appealing job to a woman than a man. Men tend to have a larger interest in technology and information systems stuff than women.

Mother Jones as forwarded by Roger Ebert (of all people).

http://www.motherjones.com/mixed-media/2012/11/women-video-game-industry-twitter-1reasonwhy

Please, no trolling. This topic is an issue in EVE esp after the article the other day at mittani.com

I'm wondering when people will realize it's 2012 and not 1952. By the way, could you link the Mittens article?

CCP needs to hire more women to design the clothing for the NEX. Its not a sexist remark, its just true that women know what looks better when it comes to clothing. I let my girlfriend (not the inflatable one...never the 2 shall meet) pick out my clothes and never had any negative feedback.

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I think there are fewer women in the gaming industry as devs because of several reasons. One is that there are fewer women working than men. More women are housewives and mothers staying home then there would be of men staying home while the wife works. I would suspect that game development or programming in general would be less of an appealing job to a woman than a man. Men tend to have a larger interest in technology and information systems stuff than women.

Having said that, the problem cuts both ways. If the population had more or less an even 50/50 split, there would be no way that it would feel like a male locker room, because at least half the content would be female-oriented. So perhaps when it comes to EVE, female population was always low for reasons other than our male (mis)behaviour. And we behave like it's a locker room because, for all intents and purposes, it IS a male locker room.

All we need to do is have CCP dump post from GD into the game, the sheer amount of estrogen flowing here will kill any manly instincts and we can all join together and sing Kumbyah while drinking Appletinis....

Why should there even be a perception of "Male Oriented" and "Female Oriented" content. It's not 1952.

There is not one correct sentence in this entire paragraph.

That's a part of the problem. Misinformed men.

As a gay man, maybe I'm just more sympathetic to the obstacles the women face.

Not sure if oblivious to the difference between men and women or just trolling.

Note: NOT written by Mittens.

http://themittani.com/features/no-penises-allowed-eves-exclusionary-spaces

We are going to ignore the oddity of the TGoE channelGÇÖs creation being proposed by someone who is not a member of the channelGÇÖs intended demographic audience. Gå¬

I want to take a moment to point out that it should not be a internet forum or an article on a website that defines a persons gender. It should be the person themselves that defines their own gender.

I was under the impression that the chemical balance in your brain defines that.

This is like posting on a handbags and clothes and makeup forum that there aren't enough men participating. Some things are just not gender-neutral and that's the end of it.

Tbh it would be a better place if guys stopped calling other guys girls just because they say stuff on the forum that some class as whining.

There's far too much sexist crap in both real life and the virtual world that makes me ashamed of being a man.

/c

Note: NOT written by Mittens.

http://themittani.com/features/no-penises-allowed-eves-exclusionary-spaces

Profanity, pornography, and sexual references permeate the text and voice comms. These could possibly be ignored or lessened by not clicking on links, using GÇ£no chatterGÇ¥ channels for fleet operations, and ignoring GÇ£LocalGÇ¥. It is much harder to ignore the unconscious denigration demonstrated through language usage: referring to women who have sex as whores or sluts; calling people cunts or bitches; or saying something is gay. It is not just women noticing these behaviours either. A corp CEO put his money where his mouth was, offering a PLEX via his blog to anyone creating a better term than GÇ£****-cageGÇ¥ (referring to the practice of completely engulfing the area of a POS's force field, plus some space outside of it, in large mobile warp disruption bubbles) while also linking other language usage directly to low female participation.

This summer, Xenuria started a thread proposing the creation of Trans Gamers of EVE (TGoE), a channel using the WGoE pattern[3]. There is also dedicated channel for gay, lesbian, and bisexual players. If such enclave channels exist and have gated membership based on gender or sexual orientation, then it is discrimination. In the case of female-only channels, it is also sexist. Women feel forced to be what they allegedly abhor. They become sexist cows, practicing reverse discriminationGÇöthrough the creation of their own channelsGÇöon a population seemingly blissfully unaware an issue exists.