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foxnod StarFleet Enterprises Red Alliance 48	Posted - 2012.12.01 16:29:00 - [61] - Quote The kind of person that'll quit because of a bounty on their head, is the type of person who shouldn't be playing EVE anyway.
Tarvos Telesto Blood Fanatics 95	Posted - 2012.12.01 16:39:00 - [62] - Quote Everyone become most wanted ;) EvE is full of bad people haha ;D love it. EvE isn't game, its style of living.
Xen Solarus Inner 5phere 190	Posted - 2012.12.02 01:57:00 - [63] - Quote So if no-one has got killrights against you, does that mean it doesn't matter how much bounty someone slaps on you? Say some hypothetical friendly industrialist that doesn't PvP, hardly even undocks he's so keen on building mining ships and what-not, gets a massive 1billion put on his head. Am i right in thinking that this doesn't make absolutely everyone able to shoot the crap outta him trying to get that isk? Obviously low and null, he's fair game! But lets assume he's a hardcore carebear that is TERRIFIED of such areas! Though he'd have to be flying something pretty damn expensive for people to be able to get access to a small portion of that fortune.
GreenSeed 90	Posted - 2012.12.02 02:18:00 - [64] - Quote ITT, we all pledge to put bounty on OP.
Lady Katherine Devonshire Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps 80	Posted - 2012.12.02 03:08:00 - [65] - Quote Xen Solarus wrote: Though he'd have to be flying something pretty damn expensive for people to be able to get access to a small portion of that fortune. I believe the word that you are looking for is "Mackinaw." Doddy wrote: You know anyone doing that would still lose isk right? Its alot of hassle to go for to lose isk. To pay out 500 mil bounty someone needs to have put 500 mil bounty on that pilot. No isk can be payed out that is not in escrow for bounty, isk is not made out of thin air. So the person setting the bounty loses 500 mil, the gankers get 500 mil more back than they would hve for ganking as normal (so they can pick a less valuable target for sure). I believe the word that you are looking for is "Goonswarm." EvE Forum Bingo
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 46	Posted - 2012.12.02 03:11:00 - [66] - Quote SmilingVagrant wrote: Alara IonStorm wrote: SmilingVagrant wrote: My ship is a bullet, expendable in the war against my enemies. My will is the gun. A freighter is the person who's head it is up against and Concord is the backfire. Good use of my quote, but I'm one of those goons who actually gets nervous in highsec because there are too many neutrals and I'm constantly having to fight back my natural tendencies to randomly open fire on the people idling on the gate. Ah! That explains finally why CCP is implementing this safe mode thing. All because of Goons .
LHA Tarawa Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 83	Posted - 2012.12.02 03:25:00 - [67] - Quote Actual result will be everyine flying cheap ships. Bye bye hulk, and hello retriever.l
Karrl Tian Yarrbusters 45	Posted - 2012.12.02 05:09:00 - [68] - Quote You could always put a bounty on any character: 1) Dial up mercs/pirates 2) Agree to pay X amount of isk if they kill so-and-so for you. Hell, it was the tagline for C&P.
admiral root Red Galaxy Persona Non Gratis 207	Posted - 2012.12.02 05:14:00 - [69] - Quote Complaint Dept wrote: I enjoy the industrial challenges of the game. And wish not to get involved in PVP. Not sure if troll, or just playing the wrong game. In case you're serious, Eve is a PvP game and it's not optional, even for industrialits (who compete against other industrialists). If you don't want to PvP there are many single-player games that will keep you entertained without mean people interfering. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Frostys Virpio Caldari Provisions Caldari State 91	Posted - 2012.12.02 05:51:00 - [70] - Quote baltec1 wrote: And so it starts. We have had months of bears chestbeating this victory, claiming to be soaking up the none existent tears of the gankers. But now they realise that not only will this not stop us but we are getting all new ways to have our fun. Winter is coming. I look foward to the upcoming torrent of tears.
Xen Solarus Inner 5phere 190	Posted - 2012.12.02 06:01:00 - [71] - Quote admiral root wrote: Complaint Dept wrote: I enjoy the industrial challenges of the game. And wish not to get involved in PVP. Not sure if troll, or just playing the wrong game. In case you're serious, Eve is a PvP game and it's not optional, even for industrialits (who compete against other industrialists). If you don't want to PvP there are many single-player games that will keep you entertained without mean people interfering. As someone that does enjoy some PvP from time to time, i completely disagree! I think one of the things that makes EvE such a great game is the fact that it caters to people that enjoy both its PvP and PvE aspects. Thinking about EvE as simply "PvP only" lessens its greatness. As i'm sure many highsec carebears and others can attest, there are many players that play and enjoy EvE for everything that it has to offer that have absolutely nothing to do with PvP. Sure, people can gank people in highsec, effectively forcing this opinion onto those that don't share it, but it doesn't change the fact that they play EvE for non-PvP reasons. I wouldn't even call this PvP personally, being that its cowardly and completely one sided. The only way EvE can be truely "PvP only" is with the complete removal of highsec. Now THAT would be interesting! And with the upcoming changes, i look forward to gankers losing their easy-mode. I'd say go to low and null where PvP is supposed to happen, but we all know that they can't handle those pesky targets actually shooting back! Much easier with high-sec easy-mode on! And yes, you can at this point start going on about everything that people do ends up being PvP at some point. But thats just a reference to EvEs player driven economy. PvP players keep the isk flowing via explosions, but it doesn't change those that play EvE for non-PvP reasons. They'll always be there in high, happy as can be building stuff, moving and selling stuff, and spanking those NPCs over and over.
Zack Korth The Deneveh Collective High Rollers 11	Posted - 2012.12.02 06:02:00 - [72] - Quote Gillia Winddancer wrote: You'd have to be pretty damn rich, bored and probably somewhat stupid if you were to end up placing attractive bounties on random people for no reason whatsoever. have you heard of goonswarm?
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 1899	Posted - 2012.12.02 06:39:00 - [73] - Quote My predictions (The Great Karnak speaks): Things won't work out the way anybody expects it to, and it's a 50 50 chance that it's going to be gankers or "bears" crying oceans of tears in these forums depending on how things truly turn out in practice. Goons will use their tech moon cash flow to do a Goonageddon style campaign where they put bounties in their usual gank targets en-masse. Trolls will post false accounts of how it has ruined their bearing or their ganking and how they are going to un-sub their 100 accounts and CCP will all get laid off and have to resort to prostitution to pay their bills. A few people will feel screwed because they wake up every day feeling that way and looking for a reason but the rest of the game will chug on as usual.
KIller Wabbit The Scope Gallente Federation 103	Posted - 2012.12.02 07:18:00 - [74] - Quote Joelleaveek wrote: Bounty =/= kill right /thread People keep quoting that. Bounties will significantly lower the threshold to piracy. We'll see how you feel about it in a month. PS. Reeallly nice of CCP to disallow bounties on Dev's and ISD. Seriously?? About as disappointed as I can get - total failure to practice what you preach as it were. I can't fathom the reasoning behind this - so would a DEV or ISD like to throw down why their pilot gets an exception?
KIller Wabbit The Scope Gallente Federation 103	Posted - 2012.12.02 07:24:00 - [75] - Quote foxnod wrote: The kind of person that'll quit because of a bounty on their head, is the type of person who shouldn't be playing EVE anyway. But they do exist and their are part of CCP's cash flow. We'll get to see if CCP shot the goose or one of the goslings.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet 3056	Posted - 2012.12.02 08:05:00 - [76] - Quote KIller Wabbit wrote: Joelleaveek wrote: Bounty =/= kill right /thread People keep quoting that. Bounties will significantly lower the threshold to piracy. We'll see how you feel about it in a month. How exactly? Significant change would mean someone is putting up huge bounties on random people for no reason. Are you going to invest hundreds of millions or billions of your money on bounties on people you don't even know? The bounty system can lower that threshold in a meaningful way for some specific targets, but no one has the wealth or any reason to put such a large bounty on everyone. KIller Wabbit wrote: PS. Reeallly nice of CCP to disallow bounties on Dev's and ISD. Seriously?? About as disappointed as I can get - total failure to practice what you preach as it were. I can't fathom the reasoning behind this - so would a DEV or ISD like to throw down why their pilot gets an exception? Because the system is meant to be actually useful, instead of being filled with targets people can't actually go around hunting. Keep in mind, that higher bounties also pay higher percentage on kills and get adverticed in the EVE universe, so you don't want a system in place, where those valuable roleplay and payout slots are taken by out of game dev characters, that almost never play.
KIller Wabbit The Scope Gallente Federation 103	Posted - 2012.12.02 08:19:00 - [77] - Quote Destination SkillQueue wrote: Because the system is meant to be actually useful, instead of being filled with targets people can't actually go around hunting. Keep in mind, that higher bounties also pay higher percentage on kills and get adverticed in the EVE universe, so you don't want a system in place, where those valuable roleplay and payout slots are taken by out of game dev characters, that almost never play. Emphasis mine. Well I certainly believe the never play part. That does enlighten me, so thanks for that. But I don't think every Dev is going to end up at the top of the list. Maybe a couple of ISD may get some special attention. They should have let it roll as is, then if it was a real problem, they could have a separate list for "special" pilots - leaving the pilots who actually do play on the original screen. If nothing else - this will be growing an isk sink, so you would think marketing and accounting would be all for it.
Valleria Darkmoon No Salvation 35	Posted - 2012.12.02 11:49:00 - [78] - Quote I think just for fun I'm going to put up 30,000 ISK bounties on everyone who called it a game breaker or in some other way let me know that having a bounty would bother them. Just to see if they quit. A bounty like that is paltry and wouldn't even be good enough incentive to suicide in a T1 fit Thrasher. I'm curious to see if their fear really can be THAT bad, I want to see if I can smell it from home. The thing I'm most sad about with this new system is how likely it is my bounty will actually get paid out, since I no longer have to lose my pod. I wanted to see how high I could push it and that's going to be a lot harder now, nevermind that too many people knew that putting enough bounty on me before might as well have meant that you should just pay me directly and save yourself some time in the bounty office. EDIT: I'm still not too proud to accept donations if my behavior made you angry.
Qvar Dar'Zanar EVE University Ivy League 102	Posted - 2012.12.02 12:11:00 - [79] - Quote Complaint Dept wrote: And Orcas are on the menu as well. Think about putting a bounty on an Orca pilot and then gank'em. This is just Hulkageddon with a CCP pay out instead of a Goon payout! ******!! Sure I will put 500M bounties on orca pilots, then gank them and get my own 500M** back (assuming that 500M is equal or less to 20% of the value of the kill...). WOHOOOOOOOOO gamebreaking!! I'm spacerich now!
Ptraci 3 R Corporation The Irukandji 734	Posted - 2012.12.02 12:19:00 - [80] - Quote So what's stopping care-bears from collecting the bounties with their alts? Please go ahead and place bounties at random. What's that you say? I only get 20% of any bounty placed on me? If 20% > clone cost, we have a deal.
Qvar Dar'Zanar EVE University Ivy League 102	Posted - 2012.12.02 12:30:00 - [81] - Quote Ptraci wrote: So what's stopping care-bears from collecting the bounties with their alts? Please go ahead and place bounties at random. What's that you say? I only get 20% of any bounty placed on me? If 20% > clone cost, we have a deal. Please could you all read the details of the changes...? You dont lose ship/implants = No bounty awarded. There are TWO 20% limits. 1. The maximum amount over the total of the bounty you can get with a single kill is 20% of the total bounty. 2. The maximum amount over the total bounty is 20% of the value of the loss. 3. Select the lower amount option.
Oregin Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact 52	Posted - 2012.12.02 13:25:00 - [82] - Quote OP what is there to be so damn scared about having a bounty? Do you genuinely think that an extra couple of mil on somebody's head would affect who gets ganked or not? Why is it that every time CCP makes a change to the game, flocks of people come running to the forums believing that these changes will kill EVE without knowing anything about the game or having thought about it for just a second?
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 10477	Posted - 2012.12.02 13:34:00 - [83] - Quote Ptraci wrote: So what's stopping care-bears from collecting the bounties with their alts? The fact that you lose money by doing so. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
Opertone Aurora Empire Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels 194	Posted - 2012.12.02 13:38:00 - [84] - Quote DEAR CCP, how about one low slot for freighters? like 1 Damage control - no tears no more
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 10477	Posted - 2012.12.02 13:40:00 - [85] - Quote Opertone wrote: DEAR CCP, how about one low slot for freighters? I don't want my freighters nerfed, thankyouverymuch. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 5306	Posted - 2012.12.02 14:36:00 - [86] - Quote Opertone wrote: DEAR CCP, how about one low slot for freighters? like 1 Damage control - no tears no more Sure, as long as they lose 20% of their cargo space. MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button."
Complaint Dept Republic University Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2012.12.05 04:30:00 - [87] - Quote As I stated earlier!! Not even 24 hours after the patch my freighter pilot made two trips to Jita and he has a bounty on him already! Never happened before, now because of the cost of a freighter a bounty is put on him. Not to mention the cargo loss if that happens. WAY TO GO CCP your working for PIRATES now? What is your goal here? CCP's forum of Hulkageddon? Stop listen is the CSM PVPers. Not all of us play the game for PVP and wish High sec would stay just that HIGH SEC NOT L Total crap!! Bounties should be for outlaws with low sec status NOT for the general population that have good status.
Zack Korth The Deneveh Collective High Rollers 16	Posted - 2012.12.05 04:32:00 - [88] - Quote Complaint Dept wrote: As I stated earlier!! Not even 24 hours after the patch my freighter pilot made two trips to Jita and he has a bounty on him already! Never happened before, now because of the cost of a freighter a bounty is put on him. Not to mention the cargo loss if that happens. WAY TO GO CCP your working for PIRATES now? What is your goal here? CCP's forum of Hulkageddon? Stop listen is the CSM PVPers. Not all of us play the game for PVP and wish High sec would stay just that HIGH SEC NOT L Total crap!! Bounties should be for outlaws with low sec status NOT for the general population that have good status. everyone wants your loots, get over it
Joelleaveek Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 137	Posted - 2012.12.05 04:35:00 - [89] - Quote Complaint Dept wrote: As I stated earlier!! Not even 24 hours after the patch my freighter pilot made two trips to Jita and he has a bounty on him already! Never happened before, now because of the cost of a freighter a bounty is put on him. Not to mention the cargo loss if that happens. WAY TO GO CCP your working for PIRATES now? What is your goal here? CCP's forum of Hulkageddon? Stop listen is the CSM PVPers. Not all of us play the game for PVP and wish High sec would stay just that HIGH SEC NOT L Total crap!! Bounties should be for outlaws with low sec status NOT for the general population that have good status. Stop crying and figure out how the system works. You probably only got a bounty because you were crying on the forums about it.
Caliph Muhammed Short Bus Friends 308	Posted - 2012.12.05 04:44:00 - [90] - Quote Merovee wrote: "You can now place a bounty on any player character in New Eden, except Dev and ISD characters." (a) 5% leave (b) 10% leave (c) 20% leave (d) BEAR STAMPEDE ---> Exit Das final solution.

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