Nope. They have no intention of meeting any ransom demands as a matter of pride.

Btw, are any other NCDot corps planning to leave alliance? Are you guys planning to reform in a new alliance? Because I've got some bad news for you...

Haha, GMs renamed my corporation to "RvB - RED FederationSTOLEN0"

But somehow I still have the exact same ticker as "RvB - RED Federation". They put both corps "Red Federation Holding Corp" and "Red Federation" back into the alliance as well.

But here's where things get even weirder. I'm at war with both member corps, but the alliance is in no wars at all, lol.

I've never seen this type of rollback in the history of Eve. I'm impressed

We had money in the alliance wallet and auto-pay was on. The disbanding was clearly a bug so CCP giving us the alliance back is only proper. It did have the unfortunate consequence of ending the war between Red and Blue, but we'll redec each other as soon as our alliance exec can come online and be back in business within 24 hours

You guys are still in all your old wars too. But it's on a corporate level, not the alliance level. That's part of the impossible chain of events that the GMs have put into motion. Your individual corporations in the restored alliance have outgoing wars, but the alliance has no wars. This is quite literally impossible, and the GMs just broke the sandbox.

As for the state of Red's wars: Blue shows itself at war with Red (the corp) but not against the alliance and blues and reds cannot shoot each other (get a concord warning). Red the corp shows itself at war with no one under the wars tab. Bit weird but I'm sure they'll sort it.

So much for the 'super villian'.


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Haha that's awesome. Pretty much falls under the "unforeseeable consequences" warning about GMs setting up impossible events ingame. The alliance war state must override the corporation's war state. And you're sure that neither side can shoot each other without being concorded? Because I almost would think that the blue side could shoot the red side without being concorded, but maybe not the other way around

Haha that's awesome. Pretty much falls under the "unforeseeable consequences" warning about GMs setting up impossible events ingame. The alliance war state must override the corporation's war state. And you're sure that neither side can shoot each other without being concorded? Because I almost would think that the blue side could shoot the red side without being concorded, but maybe not the other way around

Yep, I'm sure. We tested it this morning. No one can shoot without flipping a can or otherwise becoming a suspect first.

So much for the 'super villian'.


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Tbh it's not about what zerg did anymore but what the GM's did.

He calls it interesting , i'd say that's an understatement.This is the first time i am aware that this type of intervention happends and i can name a good amount of examples where the response would be 'too bad , logs and crap , blabla' while being in the same line of 'misstake/bug' .

But then conspiracy theory or not i know CCP has a hot for some alliances.Most say goons but while i dislike goons big time i'd more go towards the empire caterers like RVB and offcourse E-UNI is way , WAY on the top there.

Haha I was going to give the name back. I just wanted to see where the GMs would come down on this issue. And they've set a very interesting precedent here. And their interference has completely scrambled the normal rules and outcomes of ingame mechanics as a result. I honestly don't know what the consequences will be.

Heh, ah there's this story about "kenzoku" turning into "band of brothers reloaded" or something? Then getting changed back...

Do recall that the CCP people love to say oh look, RvB, oh look EVE Uni !

It would be ... less than desirable if things caused RvB to turn into Yellow VS Pink. Mind you, the players were adapting just fine, but it ~isn't the sameee~

**** less then desirable , i had less then desirable bugs and crap in my time in eve and same response every time , the **** happends , cold harsh world and logs show nothing rule applies to all of us :) .

No make that SHOULD apply to all of us . In regards to kenzoku : ' Old BOB , that cow been milked dry years ago to show rules do not apply to all' .

Tbh it's not about what zerg did anymore but what the GM's did.

He calls it interesting , i'd say that's an understatement.This is the first time i am aware that this type of intervention happends and i can name a good amount of examples where the response would be 'too bad , logs and crap , blabla' while being in the same line of 'misstake/bug' .

But then conspiracy theory or not i know CCP has a hot for some alliances.Most say goons but while i dislike goons big time i'd more go towards the empire caterers like RVB and offcourse E-UNI is way , WAY on the top there.

The extra attention is fair though. The emergent institutions of RvB and E-UNI bring something to the sandbox that the usual gunboat capitalists do not. They certainly give more than they take. Can't say that about the Goons.

I would even possibly include Dec Shield in this. I say would, but then this thread happened. Dec Shield and their founder have gone down a lot in my estimations and sympathy.

So much hate. You forget that I really had only a tangential role in all these events. I was not responsible for the disband. I was also not responsible for them putting the alliance back together incorrectly. In fact, temporarily holding the name did very little but add 30 seconds to the process of restoring the alliance. And I had promised to return the name regardless of how events turned out. So if you want to hate me, it should be for the wars, not for current events.

That one way to look at it, another would be that it all happened because you did not just give them back the name, while you could... and that's why you carry the full claim.