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Sorany
Hard Knocks Inc.
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Posted - 2012.12.07 18:42:00 -
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Xtrah wrote:A lot of great feedback so far. Thanks for every like and subscription, we'll probably keep posting some vids every now and then. Share the word 
I just got around to watching this last night, very well done but eff yo jams. they were not appreciated. feel free to leave them at home next time.  |

Abis Cann
Hard Knocks Inc.
4
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Posted - 2012.12.11 04:37:00 -
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An account of the events from the Hard Knocks perspective: http://hardknocksinc.net/index.php/blogs/item/31-birth-of-rage |

MisterAl tt1
Pretenders Inc W-Space
14
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Posted - 2012.12.11 20:13:00 -
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Quote:painting a much more terrible picture of us than was truly warranted There was no need to paint a picture of you. You had done that yourselves with you total lack of respect for all the other people living in wormholes.
And what I'm sure about is that if you keep on "trolling people to fight" by calling their mothers whores - one day you will find noone is coming to save you. |

Tisisan
Hard Knocks Inc.
36
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Posted - 2012.12.11 20:18:00 -
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MisterAl tt1 wrote:Quote:painting a much more terrible picture of us than was truly warranted There was no need to paint a picture of you. You had done that yourselves with you total lack of respect for all the other people living in wormholes. And what I'm sure about is that if you keep on "trolling people to fight" by calling their mothers whores - one day you will find noone is coming to save you.
And if you get so bent out of shape by popular movie quotes that you are still butthurt about it 2 months later, you are in for a frustrating life. |

Sorany
Hard Knocks Inc.
9
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Posted - 2012.12.11 22:29:00 -
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MisterAl tt1 wrote:Quote:painting a much more terrible picture of us than was truly warranted There was no need to paint a picture of you. You had done that yourselves with you total lack of respect for all the other people living in wormholes. And what I'm sure about is that if you keep on "trolling people to fight" by calling their mothers whores - one day you will find noone is coming to save you.
well the thing I can be pretty sure about are the NOHO FCs saying how terrible w-space was to work with....
so who is going to fight your battles for you next time?
we all know w-space doesn't stand a shot at invading us on their own.
please though, feel free to take that last statement as a challenge. |

QT McWhiskers
Hard Knocks Inc.
48
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Posted - 2012.12.12 01:27:00 -
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MisterAl tt1 wrote:Quote:painting a much more terrible picture of us than was truly warranted There was no need to paint a picture of you. You had done that yourselves with you total lack of respect for all the other people living in wormholes. And what I'm sure about is that if you keep on "trolling people to fight" by calling their mothers whores - one day you will find noone is coming to save you.
As far as respecting others go, we rolled out the carpet for you by blowing up your manticore. Then we showed our full fleet to you by having it sit on the other side of your hole. You had similar numbers online and active, we know this by our scouts reporting ship changes, but you never once came to fight. You sat behind your shields after pulling together a pretty respectable fleet of very similar numbers.
Not once did you come out to fight.
But we must thank you. You gave us the best fight of our lives for some, and the best fight in a long time for others. Since then we have been riding that high, others are riding other highs as well, and have been looking for more fights each and every time we roll holes.
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Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
953
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Posted - 2012.12.12 01:54:00 -
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MisterAl tt1 wrote:Quote:painting a much more terrible picture of us than was truly warranted There was no need to paint a picture of you. You had done that yourselves with you total lack of respect for all the other people living in wormholes. And what I'm sure about is that if you keep on "trolling people to fight" by calling their mothers whores - one day you will find noone is coming to save you.
^nicely put. insulting people into fighting you should not, and is not by most, tolerated in WHs. personally i have suicide ganked people for far less.
Quote:As far as respecting others go, we rolled out the carpet for you by blowing up your manticore. Then we showed our full fleet to you by having it sit on the other side of your hole. You had similar numbers online and active, we know this by our scouts reporting ship changes, but you never once came to fight. You sat behind your shields after pulling together a pretty respectable fleet of very similar numbers.
Not once did you come out to fight.
and when they did, you batphoned 3 alliances to save you. before getting on your high horse, stop kidding yourself. |

Tisisan
Hard Knocks Inc.
36
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Posted - 2012.12.12 03:11:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:
and when they did, you batphoned 3 alliances to save you. before getting on your high horse, stop kidding yourself.
Which means crap all when we can't get them in hole. 3 groups trying for an entrance is just increased odds that one makes it in.
The fact that they all made it was due to a metric ****-ton of luck, a lot of hard work, and an unconscionably slow response time on the part of the invaders. And considering you lot were basically just there to killmail *****, at the expense of knowingly and intentionally putting a nice lady in a really painful position, you're really in no position to talk complain about us not telling the rest of the people who had been trying for hours to find a way in 'no sorry, we have enough'. |

Bane Nucleus
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
264
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Posted - 2012.12.12 03:48:00 -
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Well, the experience my alliance had with Hard Knocks was a good one. They came to fight and no **** talking what so ever.
The Fight
Alliance Diplomat, Recruiter |

Sorany
Hard Knocks Inc.
9
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Posted - 2012.12.12 04:07:00 -
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Bane Nucleus wrote:Well, the experience my alliance had with Hard Knocks was a good one. They came to fight and no **** talking what so ever. The Fight
was fairly epic.
however I just noticed that I just lost BS V because I am terrible, as well as my T3 skill.
o7o7o7
also, Black Core Alliance - get ******. 91km of bubbles to wade through in a pod. no thanks. podded my alt as well.
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Debes Sparre
Hard Knocks Inc.
0
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Posted - 2012.12.12 04:09:00 -
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Bane Nucleus wrote:Well, the experience my alliance had with Hard Knocks was a good one. They came to fight and no **** talking what so ever. The Fight
Props to TL for committing as well. Was a very, very close, long, long fight. GFs from everyone on our side. That thing see-sawed back and forth more than a.. really see-sawing thing... |

Sorany
Hard Knocks Inc.
9
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Posted - 2012.12.12 04:10:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:MisterAl tt1 wrote:Quote:painting a much more terrible picture of us than was truly warranted There was no need to paint a picture of you. You had done that yourselves with you total lack of respect for all the other people living in wormholes. And what I'm sure about is that if you keep on "trolling people to fight" by calling their mothers whores - one day you will find noone is coming to save you. ^nicely put. insulting people into fighting you should not, and is not by most, tolerated in WHs. personally i have suicide ganked people for far less. Quote:As far as respecting others go, we rolled out the carpet for you by blowing up your manticore. Then we showed our full fleet to you by having it sit on the other side of your hole. You had similar numbers online and active, we know this by our scouts reporting ship changes, but you never once came to fight. You sat behind your shields after pulling together a pretty respectable fleet of very similar numbers.
Not once did you come out to fight. and when they did, you batphoned 3 alliances to save you. before getting on your high horse, stop kidding yourself. lolAHARM SPACE POLICE ARE GO!
what part of two alliances worth and 120+ vs a single corp makes you think we wouldn't batphone. gooby pls. |

J3rz11
Hard Knocks Inc.
3
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Posted - 2012.12.12 04:44:00 -
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Bane Nucleus wrote:Well, the experience my alliance had with Hard Knocks was a good one. They came to fight and no **** talking what so ever. The Fight
great fight, over an hour long! sadly had to listen to most of it since you all podded me ;-P
gf! |

ROSSLINDEN0
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
46
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Posted - 2012.12.12 04:59:00 -
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Damn I bet everyone from hk has a rectum that resembles the dude from the jam jar vid after that fight. |

Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
954
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Posted - 2012.12.12 05:14:00 -
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Sorany wrote:Jack Miton wrote:and when they did, you batphoned 3 alliances to save you. before getting on your high horse, stop kidding yourself. lolAHARM SPACE POLICE ARE GO! what part of two alliances worth and 120+ vs a single corp makes you think we wouldn't batphone. gooby pls.
sigh... guess i need to point out that i speak for myself and not aharm as an entity.
im also not blaming you for bat phoning, merely pointing out the hypocrisy of doing so while using someone not fighting you on even grounds as an excuse to abuse them in local.
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J3rz11
Hard Knocks Inc.
3
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Posted - 2012.12.12 05:30:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Sorany wrote:Jack Miton wrote:and when they did, you batphoned 3 alliances to save you. before getting on your high horse, stop kidding yourself. lolAHARM SPACE POLICE ARE GO! what part of two alliances worth and 120+ vs a single corp makes you think we wouldn't batphone. gooby pls. sigh... guess i need to point out that i speak for myself and not aharm as an entity. im also not blaming you for bat phoning, merely pointing out the hypocrisy of doing so while using someone not fighting you on even grounds as an excuse to abuse them in local.
still missing the context of the badly google translated message. see 0:59 of this video (http://hardknocksinc.net/index.php/blogs/item/31-birth-of-rage)
Understandably, yes with social/language barriers, it can be see offensive. But really, who cares its a game and really does one person's opinion really matter to you that much? if so, thicken up. I've been told worst things in real life.
ROSSLINDEN0 wrote:Damn I bet everyone from hk has a rectum that resembles the dude from the jam jar vid after that fight.
nah, they applied lube first =) |

ash veratis
Hard Knocks Inc.
4
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Posted - 2012.12.12 05:35:00 -
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ROSSLINDEN0 wrote:Damn I bet everyone from hk has a rectum that resembles the dude from the jam jar vid after that fight.
Mommy dragon had lived a long and illustrious career before meeting a hero's end in battle.
gf's were had all around, we committed, we had an awesome hour long fight.
And I only lost gallente propulsion systems 4.
op success. |

Sorany
Hard Knocks Inc.
9
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Posted - 2012.12.12 05:39:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Sorany wrote:Jack Miton wrote:and when they did, you batphoned 3 alliances to save you. before getting on your high horse, stop kidding yourself. lolAHARM SPACE POLICE ARE GO! what part of two alliances worth and 120+ vs a single corp makes you think we wouldn't batphone. gooby pls. sigh... guess i need to point out that i speak for myself and not aharm as an entity. im also not blaming you for bat phoning, merely pointing out the hypocrisy of doing so while using someone not fighting you on even grounds as an excuse to abuse them in local.
because 120+ is totally equal to 50. whatever you are smoking, feel free to share.
we have no problems fighting on even grounds or even on un-even terms ask SSC/LOST anyone else who has given us a fight. when you deny us a fight because you are chicken ****, you're going to get made fun of..... that's just the way we are.
had W-Space alone showed up and took us on, we probably wouldn't have bat-phoned and it would still have been one sided judging from what I hear from NOHO FCs.... |

Gnaw LF
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
257
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Posted - 2012.12.12 06:36:00 -
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MisterAl tt1 wrote:Quote:painting a much more terrible picture of us than was truly warranted There was no need to paint a picture of you. You had done that yourselves with you total lack of respect for all the other people living in wormholes. And what I'm sure about is that if you keep on "trolling people to fight" by calling their mothers whores - one day you will find noone is coming to save you.
The mighty Wormhole Overlord has SPOKEN! Already you will find yourselves unable to access the Wormhole Overlords channel, the very heart and soul of all wormhole operations. Already you are being shunned by your peers in this all important channel where the entire w-space comes to cooperate and do bidding of our beloved Supreme Leader MisterAl tt1. Soon, our benevolent Overlord will isolate you from your friends and allies, using his silver tongue, his overwhelming diplomatic finesse and his unstoppable horde of Web fitted Legion pilots. You have been warned!
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Gnaw LF
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
257
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Posted - 2012.12.12 06:39:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:MisterAl tt1 wrote:Quote:painting a much more terrible picture of us than was truly warranted There was no need to paint a picture of you. You had done that yourselves with you total lack of respect for all the other people living in wormholes. And what I'm sure about is that if you keep on "trolling people to fight" by calling their mothers whores - one day you will find noone is coming to save you. ^nicely put. insulting people into fighting you should not, and is not by most, tolerated in WHs. personally i have suicide ganked people for far less. Quote:As far as respecting others go, we rolled out the carpet for you by blowing up your manticore. Then we showed our full fleet to you by having it sit on the other side of your hole. You had similar numbers online and active, we know this by our scouts reporting ship changes, but you never once came to fight. You sat behind your shields after pulling together a pretty respectable fleet of very similar numbers.
Not once did you come out to fight. and when they did, you batphoned 3 alliances to save you. before getting on your high horse, stop kidding yourself.
Grow a thicker skin. Also its pretty sad to see people complain that they aren't getting a "good fight" from the defenders. It does not take Sherlock Holmes to figure out that defenders don't want to be evicted and will do everything possible to prevent that scenario. As such a large number of w-space pilots agreed with HDKX, that evicting a pvp corp for smack is dumb and you should feel dumb. |

QT McWhiskers
Hard Knocks Inc.
48
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Posted - 2012.12.12 06:43:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:
and when they did, you batphoned 3 alliances to save you. before getting on your high horse, stop kidding yourself.
One thing you are forgetting jack. We were invaded. Our home was invaded. This wasnt some site running fleet or a group of pvp dreads we were in danger of losing here. Our very homes were under attack. So before YOU get on your high horse remember this one fact.
We will use whatever method, be it diplomatic, fleet comp, spies, or even a suicide run to take out enemy dreads to save our right to remain in wormhole space.
If you think for one instant that we will follow some honor bound unwritten rule or take a manly man high path and fight off the invaders ourselves, you are sorely mistaken. I am not ashamed to admit this. But I wouldnt have minded a fleet double our size to kick out the invaders.
When your home is threatened you do what you need to do to save it. |

Bane Nucleus
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
264
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Posted - 2012.12.12 06:51:00 -
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I still don't get why people are angry. It seems simple to me
1) Corp gets invaded
2) Corp getting invaded calls for help
3) Help arrives and saves their wormhole
4) Carry on in Eve the next day
This is how it works all the time. There should be no sour buttholes over this.
Speaking only for TL, but when we invade someones wh with the intention of removing their assets, we fully expect them to try and get as much help as possible to save them. There is no shame in doing whatever it takes to keep your wormhole. Alliance CEO, Diplomat, Recruiter |

Indo Nira
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
24
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Posted - 2012.12.12 09:01:00 -
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Yo! People crying about smack talk. There's this feature on the internet called 'ignore' (or 'block' in eve online) Ever heard of it? |

Zara Arran
Aperture Harmonics K162
1
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Posted - 2012.12.12 10:22:00 -
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Guys, why keep this discussion ongoing? Let everyone play the game how they want it.
Some people like to smack talk in local, or dishonour fights, or blue-up with anything that moves, or they like to PvE only.. Whatever strikes your fancy. If you do not like their way of playing the game, get a group together and try and evict them. If you dont like the invasion or you like the invaded, help the defenders....
Some invade because of a corp ideal of policy, some invade because they want to fight, some invade out of boredom. If you smacktalk a lot or dishonour ransomes or agreements, you might find your home more quickly invaded ;) Bare the consequences.
But let's not dictate eachothers game. Lets do the talking with ships 'n guns.
(this was my personal view, not necessarily AHARMs view) Aperture Harmonics - Recruitment Officer & Corp Diplomat Recruitment status - Open -á http://dontshootx.com/index.php?board=42.0 |

Vincent Gaines
Double-Down Transmission Lost
272
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Posted - 2012.12.12 13:00:00 -
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Sorany wrote:Bane Nucleus wrote:Well, the experience my alliance had with Hard Knocks was a good one. They came to fight and no **** talking what so ever. The Fight was fairly epic. however I just noticed that I just lost BS V because I am terrible, as well as my T3 skill. o7o7o7 also, Black Core Alliance - get ******. 91km of bubbles to wade through in a pod. no thanks. podded my alt as well. will have a video up mildly soon with our retardedly hilarious comms.
The fight was incredible, and very close (I hate how killboards don't reflect what's actually going on in a battle). It was almost a full stalemate with both fleets trying to outwit the other. We each played a hand to engage and both enacted that hand.
If not for our hero bhaal the outcome could have been much different. I look forward to fighting HK again and maybe even along with them one day.
I'm a terrible writer but can give a full report from our side a bit later on.
J3rz11 sorry, guardians had to be first to go :( |

Sorany
Hard Knocks Inc.
9
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Posted - 2012.12.12 14:02:00 -
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Vincent Gaines wrote:Sorany wrote:Bane Nucleus wrote:Well, the experience my alliance had with Hard Knocks was a good one. They came to fight and no **** talking what so ever. The Fight was fairly epic. however I just noticed that I just lost BS V because I am terrible, as well as my T3 skill. o7o7o7 also, Black Core Alliance - get ******. 91km of bubbles to wade through in a pod. no thanks. podded my alt as well. will have a video up mildly soon with our retardedly hilarious comms. The fight was incredible, and very close (I hate how killboards don't reflect what's actually going on in a battle). It was almost a full stalemate with both fleets trying to outwit the other. We each played a hand to engage and both enacted that hand. If not for our hero bhaal the outcome could have been much different. I look forward to fighting HK again and maybe even along with them one day. I'm a terrible writer but can give a full report from our side a bit later on. J3rz11 sorry, guardians had to be first to go :( oh yea man, hero bhaal definitely made the difference, our dread also began shooting your archon and not the bhaal - so we made some mistakes but great fight all around.
also, mad props for battle skiff. |

Vincent Gaines
Double-Down Transmission Lost
273
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Posted - 2012.12.12 14:48:00 -
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Sorany wrote: oh yea man, hero bhaal definitely made the difference, our dread also began shooting your archon and not the bhaal - so we made some mistakes but great fight all around.
also, mad props for battle skiff.
I think we're going to put a fraps vid as well, and there's a part regarding our dread pilot in which I hope our TS audio is put in. I don't want to spoil the surprise but there's a reason he warped off and came back a while later.
I can agree that mistakes were made on our end too 
Battle skiff best skiff |

ash veratis
Hard Knocks Inc.
4
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Posted - 2012.12.12 15:30:00 -
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Vincent Gaines wrote:I think we're going to put a fraps vid as well, and there's a part regarding our dread pilot in which I hope our TS audio is put in. I don't want to spoil the surprise but there's a reason he warped off and came back a while later. I can agree that mistakes were made on our end too  Battle skiff best skiff
I am curious why the battleskiff pilot had a mining mindlink though. seriously helped with our crappy efficiency :P |

Gnaw LF
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
258
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Posted - 2012.12.12 16:42:00 -
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Zara Arran wrote:Guys, why keep this discussion ongoing? Let everyone play the game how they want it.
Some people like to smack talk in local, or dishonour fights, or blue-up with anything that moves, or they like to PvE only.. Whatever strikes your fancy. If you do not like their way of playing the game, get a group together and try and evict them. If you dont like the invasion or you like the invaded, help the defenders....
Some invade because of a corp ideal of policy, some invade because they want to fight, some invade out of boredom. If you smacktalk a lot or dishonour ransomes or agreements, you might find your home more quickly invaded ;) Bare the consequences.
But let's not dictate eachothers game. Lets do the talking with ships 'n guns.
(this was my personal view, not necessarily AHARMs view)
Good point. Multiple parties are getting worked up about a fight that happened a while ago, the aftermath of which was a mutual cease fire, GFs in local and an honorable withdrawal from Rage. I am under no illusion that there are bitter feelings about the whole affair, but the end was amicable enough and we should strive to keep it that way. |

Tisisan
Hard Knocks Inc.
36
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Posted - 2012.12.12 16:57:00 -
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Gnaw LF wrote:Zara Arran wrote:Guys, why keep this discussion ongoing? Let everyone play the game how they want it.
Some people like to smack talk in local, or dishonour fights, or blue-up with anything that moves, or they like to PvE only.. Whatever strikes your fancy. If you do not like their way of playing the game, get a group together and try and evict them. If you dont like the invasion or you like the invaded, help the defenders....
Some invade because of a corp ideal of policy, some invade because they want to fight, some invade out of boredom. If you smacktalk a lot or dishonour ransomes or agreements, you might find your home more quickly invaded ;) Bare the consequences.
But let's not dictate eachothers game. Lets do the talking with ships 'n guns.
(this was my personal view, not necessarily AHARMs view) Good point. Multiple parties are getting worked up about a fight that happened a while ago, the aftermath of which was a mutual cease fire, GFs in local and an honorable withdrawal from Rage. I am under no illusion that there are bitter feelings about the whole affair, but the end was amicable enough and we should strive to keep it that way.
The thread got bumped initially for the link to the long, and only just recently released, official HK write up on the fight. A reasonable bump I'd think. It only turned nasty when MisterAl the butthurt showed up. (Followed by his loyal AHARM buddies...) |
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