May the best side win.

But also, could someone give me which corps/alliances are in what coalition? Hidden corps/alliances can stay hidden, so just revealed players will do even :)

This will be very interesting to observe!

Hidden Freman: I do! This is my main so contract/"givemoney" works fine! Will go towards a good cause. (me)

The gods of rollin' must have been on your side.
I wonder though... with access to an awesome wormhole mapping tool and its juicy Intel...
Could I resist?

140 to 60-70

Can we maby hear from norcorp/aharm/wspace side? This thread is just verge of collapse and hardknocks fapping over this "epic fight" which is nothing more then uber blobfest, turkey shoot.

Can we maby hear from norcorp/aharm/wspace side? This thread is just verge of collapse and hardknocks fapping over this "epic fight" which is nothing more then uber blobfest, turkey shoot.

don't forget SSC & KILL!

edit: to be fair though, you bring two alliances to one corps hole..... you should expect batphones.

also, we were fully prepared to fight even without SSC/VOC/KILL.

don't forget SSC & KILL!

edit: to be fair though, you bring two alliances to one corps hole..... you should expect batphones.

also, we were fully prepared to fight even without SSC/VOC/KILL.

The Fight

Linky for a Video :D

thx... now how about a vid with comms recording instead of that "music"? :)

that would be MUCH more interesting

Lies

Yeah that video is pretty terrible, but its the only one there is so..

Lies

thx... now how about a vid with comms recording instead of that "music"? :)

that would be MUCH more interesting

Lies

we took hole control still outnumbered....

erm.. i could but i didnt know at the time if comms were allowed to be " broadcast".. if i get the go ahead ill re-do it :)

thx... now how about a vid with comms recording instead of that "music"? :)

that would be MUCH more interesting

edit: to be fair though, you bring two alliances to one corps hole..... you should expect batphones.

Oh well, still nice gank for you guys. I am stunned tho why these corporation/alliance took your side tho after your behavior in wh space the last months

I'm not sure that's possible actually... funny story regarding comms...

Oh well, still nice gank for you guys. I am stunned tho why these corporation/alliance took your side tho after your behavior in wh space the last months

Oh well, still nice gank for you guys. I am stunned tho why these corporation/alliance took your side tho after your behavior in wh space the last months

Also can't speak for the entire of SSC, but personally I wanted to join the fight because I knew it'll be a good one. Not exactly every day when you have the opportunity to partisipate in a fight with so many "big players" of wormhole space. On top of that, even if I dislike some of the things Hard Knocks do, they still bring fights every now and then (just few days ago in our home system for example) and as such they are not deserving of being evicted from wormhole space, regardless of who they pissed off.

All in all, I have no regrets joining in and staying up to 6:30AM and having the kids try and wake me up only 15mins after I finally got to bed... :D

Oh well, still nice gank for you guys. I am stunned tho why these corporation/alliance took your side tho after your behavior in wh space the last months

to be fair though, you bring two alliances to one corps hole..... you should expect batphones.

PS. Props to people, who organized safe exit. It seems to have become a good tradition of wormholes, that even HK respect.

We're not assholes

strong evidence to the contrary.

We could've raep-caged their towers and not let them out...

[quote=Melissa Warner]


The only reason the OP was organized was total lack of respect from the Hard Knocks to all the rest of the people inhabiting wormholes. It is heavily believed by many people that smacktalking in local should stay in nulls, while wormhole players should have a little more respect to each other.

I do hope HK leadership would re-consider their policy as to such things, at least remembering that one day people you ****-off might not come to help you for that very reason.

I suppose you have to have some sort of reason for choosing your invasion targets. When german tanks rolled into Poland I'm pretty sure the smacktalk was blamed

I suppose you have to have some sort of reason for choosing your invasion targets. When german tanks rolled into Poland I'm pretty sure the smacktalk was blamed

3. Excessive smack-talk and generally being dicks

If your really offended by smack talk, EVE Online probably isnt the game for you.

Equally, i find this entire; "OMG someone said something mean to me on the interwebs" as pretty petty...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

(grin)

and for that we get a "EVEN HK" respect this un-written rule of W-Space, as if we are the scourge of WH's.

Do you mean our little siggy addon?

http://i.imgur.com/zpBI7.png

Yes, we had some good "luck".

Fatyh, we may think different. From my point of view there are so many possible targets in wormholes that you sometimes need a reason to decide "let's go for this very guys". The reason for this very eviction was that mentioned.

What I can say is that if you ever see any of W-Space Alliance pilots smacktalking - feel free to contact me in that regard.

See the thing you don't understand is that if I ever see one of your pilots smack talking I'm not gonna go cry to daddy like a 4 year old because he called me an ugly meanie. I'm gonna laugh, call him some names load my guns/missiles and try to kill him. This is EvE Online. Not a daycare. Either stop your crying, or bottle those tears so I can fuel my spaceships.

There are levels of smacktalk - banter, etc. is one thing - when people kill someone or lose a ship and start getting really nasty about it is another - theres a level between banter and petitionable that has resulted in evictions.

Fatyh, we may think different. From my point of view there are so many possible targets in wormholes that you sometimes need a reason to decide "let's go for this very guys". The reason for this very eviction was that mentioned.

What I can say is that if you ever see any of W-Space Alliance pilots smacktalking - feel free to contact me in that regard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw0LulVqQ90

enjoy, Music+Comms

Any reason for PvP is a good reason.

I may find the time to write and post my vision of the OP if guys are interested.

Would love to hear a write-up from your side. Kind of curious about some random things, like how you enjoyed the 30 bubbles i dropped on your logoff spot that first night (still a bit peeved at our euros for not making better use of that). Also, about that Shield Tanked Ninja Moros we caught fairly early on.

AHARM really lets their jimmies get rustled by smack talk? That's news to me.

For me this was an opportunity to get in an awesome fight, by and large smack talk has to be extremely excessive to garner much interest from us.

(Unless you've insulted our CEO's spelling in local... then you're just screwed)

The smack talk thing was the only reason we actually joined too.

There is a limit to what we like to see though racism, and calling people's mothers whores is way over that limit.

Norwegian massacre stuff...

My members were annoyed already at how far this had escalated and only really wanted a fight not a protracted siege lasting over a week.

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So the sensitive little Russian flowers never actually realized that was a movie quote?

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I spoke to Ayeson of Hard Knock afterwards and we had a nice wee chat about the smacking etc. He agreed that naming Pos after recent tragedies is low blow and promised to make their member change the name.
Which was cool and made us realise they aren't the A..holes that we had got the impression they were. Except for one individual of course. Exit was arranged for survivors in true WH style and GF's was had in local.

This.

The only reason the OP was organized was total lack of respect from the Hard Knocks to all the rest of the people inhabiting wormholes. It is heavily believed by many people that smacktalking in local should stay in nulls, while wormhole players should have a little more respect to each other.

There was talk about bringing Starbridge also, but this had already turned into a way larger coalition then we really ever like being a part off so the idea was turned down for the second time.

LOL, If you had brought starbridge you would have pretty much been the equivalent of smack talking us. We take great pleasure beating the ever living doodoo out of the pathetic excuse of russian blobbers who once attempted an renter system in wspace, not to mention evict us horribly. We would have came just to desecrate their mothers corpses.



I'm posting this for the likes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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LOL, If you had brought starbridge you would have pretty much been the equivalent of smack talking us. We take great pleasure beating the ever living doodoo out of the pathetic excuse of russian blobbers who once attempted an renter system in wspace, not to mention evict us horribly. We would have came just to desecrate their mothers corpses.



I'm posting this for the likes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here's a slightly edited video from the Capital fleet side, with only capital comms for the fight.

Defender fleet, Capital fleet and HK support fleet comms

I've cleaned out a few posts from this thread for trolling.

now you're just the Eve-O that I used to know......

now you're just the Eve-O that I used to know......

You're are missing the real point of that post. The russians are still butthurt and are reporting posts as trolling and smack. CCP never reads threads otherwise.

Sometimes people just need any kind of reason at all to get a worthy fight/goal going.

What it particularly is doesn't have to be all that meaningful, as long as theirs a reason.


I on the other hand, will point my guns at pretty much anything the people closest to me I respect need me too....

I suspect the majority of us fall into this category, which practically makes us all brothers.

You're are missing the real point of that post. The russians are still butthurt and are reporting posts as trolling and smack. CCP never reads threads otherwise.

How old are you ?

12, do you have candy mister?

Watched the videos, read the reports, and all I have to say is it is a shame we didn't make this fight.


Props to both sides for providing such a great fight! Also glad Hard Knocks is still around :)

Watched the videos, read the reports, and all I have to say is it is a shame we didn't make this fight.


Props to both sides for providing such a great fight! Also glad Hard Knocks is still around :)

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I was sad, they blew up my replica memorial hero suicide blackbird named "Hero of Obstergo"... WHAT WILL I SAVE YOUR FREIGHTERS WITH NOW!?!

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painting a much more terrible picture of us than was truly warranted

There was no need to paint a picture of you. You had done that yourselves with you total lack of respect for all the other people living in wormholes.

And what I'm sure about is that if you keep on "trolling people to fight" by calling their mothers whores - one day you will find noone is coming to save you.

There was no need to paint a picture of you. You had done that yourselves with you total lack of respect for all the other people living in wormholes.

And what I'm sure about is that if you keep on "trolling people to fight" by calling their mothers whores - one day you will find noone is coming to save you.

There was no need to paint a picture of you. You had done that yourselves with you total lack of respect for all the other people living in wormholes.

And what I'm sure about is that if you keep on "trolling people to fight" by calling their mothers whores - one day you will find noone is coming to save you.

There was no need to paint a picture of you. You had done that yourselves with you total lack of respect for all the other people living in wormholes.

And what I'm sure about is that if you keep on "trolling people to fight" by calling their mothers whores - one day you will find noone is coming to save you.

As far as respecting others go, we rolled out the carpet for you by blowing up your manticore. Then we showed our full fleet to you by having it sit on the other side of your hole. You had similar numbers online and active, we know this by our scouts reporting ship changes, but you never once came to fight. You sat behind your shields after pulling together a pretty respectable fleet of very similar numbers.

Not once did you come out to fight.

and when they did, you batphoned 3 alliances to save you.
before getting on your high horse, stop kidding yourself.

Well, the experience my alliance had with Hard Knocks was a good one. They came to fight and no **** talking what so ever.

The Fight

Well, the experience my alliance had with Hard Knocks was a good one. They came to fight and no **** talking what so ever.

The Fight

^nicely put.
insulting people into fighting you should not, and is not by most, tolerated in WHs.
personally i have suicide ganked people for far less.



and when they did, you batphoned 3 alliances to save you.
before getting on your high horse, stop kidding yourself.

Well, the experience my alliance had with Hard Knocks was a good one. They came to fight and no **** talking what so ever.

The Fight

lolAHARM SPACE POLICE ARE GO!

what part of two alliances worth and 120+ vs a single corp makes you think we wouldn't batphone. gooby pls.

sigh...
guess i need to point out that i speak for myself and not aharm as an entity.

im also not blaming you for bat phoning, merely pointing out the hypocrisy of doing so while using someone not fighting you on even grounds as an excuse to abuse them in local.

Damn I bet everyone from hk has a rectum that resembles the dude from the jam jar vid after that fight.

Damn I bet everyone from hk has a rectum that resembles the dude from the jam jar vid after that fight.

sigh...
guess i need to point out that i speak for myself and not aharm as an entity.

im also not blaming you for bat phoning, merely pointing out the hypocrisy of doing so while using someone not fighting you on even grounds as an excuse to abuse them in local.

There was no need to paint a picture of you. You had done that yourselves with you total lack of respect for all the other people living in wormholes.

And what I'm sure about is that if you keep on "trolling people to fight" by calling their mothers whores - one day you will find noone is coming to save you.

^nicely put.
insulting people into fighting you should not, and is not by most, tolerated in WHs.
personally i have suicide ganked people for far less.



and when they did, you batphoned 3 alliances to save you.
before getting on your high horse, stop kidding yourself.

and when they did, you batphoned 3 alliances to save you.
before getting on your high horse, stop kidding yourself.

was fairly epic.

however I just noticed that I just lost BS V because I am terrible, as well as my T3 skill.

o7o7o7

also, Black Core Alliance - get ******. 91km of bubbles to wade through in a pod. no thanks. podded my alt as well.

will have a video up mildly soon with our retardedly hilarious comms.

The fight was incredible, and very close (I hate how killboards don't reflect what's actually going on in a battle). It was almost a full stalemate with both fleets trying to outwit the other. We each played a hand to engage and both enacted that hand.

If not for our hero bhaal the outcome could have been much different. I look forward to fighting HK again and maybe even along with them one day.

I'm a terrible writer but can give a full report from our side a bit later on.

J3rz11 sorry, guardians had to be first to go :(

oh yea man, hero bhaal definitely made the difference, our dread also began shooting your archon and not the bhaal - so we made some mistakes but great fight all around.

also, mad props for battle skiff.

I think we're going to put a fraps vid as well, and there's a part regarding our dread pilot in which I hope our TS audio is put in. I don't want to spoil the surprise but there's a reason he warped off and came back a while later.

I can agree that mistakes were made on our end too


Battle skiff best skiff

Guys, why keep this discussion ongoing? Let everyone play the game how they want it.

Some people like to smack talk in local, or dishonour fights, or blue-up with anything that moves, or they like to PvE only.. Whatever strikes your fancy. If you do not like their way of playing the game, get a group together and try and evict them. If you dont like the invasion or you like the invaded, help the defenders....

Some invade because of a corp ideal of policy, some invade because they want to fight, some invade out of boredom. If you smacktalk a lot or dishonour ransomes or agreements, you might find your home more quickly invaded ;) Bare the consequences.

But let's not dictate eachothers game. Lets do the talking with ships 'n guns.

(this was my personal view, not necessarily AHARMs view)

Good point. Multiple parties are getting worked up about a fight that happened a while ago, the aftermath of which was a mutual cease fire, GFs in local and an honorable withdrawal from Rage. I am under no illusion that there are bitter feelings about the whole affair, but the end was amicable enough and we should strive to keep it that way.

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The thread got bumped initially for the link to the long, and only just recently released, official HK write up on the fight. A reasonable bump I'd think. It only turned nasty when MisterAl the butthurt showed up.

I tried to save this thread with some mutual verbal fellatio between TL and HK.

An account of the events from the Hard Knocks perspective:
http://hardknocksinc.net/index.php/blogs/item/31-birth-of-rage

Fun fact, all our invasion targets aswell as aharm's are called Rage... So that makes you as unique as mothership in a wormhole, right? Props for you for calling yourself the same as we have called countless other targets though

Out of interest how many other evictions ended the way yours did of our hole?

Yours would be the first. But we could have dragged it on a long long time, so its not like it couldn't have ended differently. but i also i know that our CEO does not like evicting PVP entities so he was probably not a fan of keeping it going anyway.

And it wasn't your defense that held your hole anyway it was the some 80 pilots from VOC, SSC and Kill it with fire who fought your battle.

And a word of caution for you, now that everyone knows you batphone everyone you can find in arms length, other will be doing the same to you.

Yours would be the first. But we could have dragged it on a long long time, so its not like it couldn't have ended differently. but i also i know that our CEO does not like evicting PVP entities so he was probably not a fan of keeping it going anyway.

And it wasn't your defense that held your hole anyway it was the some 80 pilots from VOC, SSC and Kill it with fire who fought your battle.

And a word of caution for you, now that everyone knows you batphone everyone you can find in arms length, other will be doing the same to you.

You batphoned fair enough, we were a stronger force than yours fair enough. But you guys are getting on your high horse for something a group of other alliances just about did for you.

You batphoned fair enough, we were a stronger force than yours fair enough. But you guys are getting on your high horse for something a group of other alliances just about did for you.

You batphoned fair enough, we were a stronger force than yours fair enough. But you guys are getting on your high horse for something a group of other alliances just about did for you.

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