why should anybody care about high-sec, ice miners and goons anyway?

Honestly, I don't even know how many of us care about what is happening there in Gallente ice belt space. Well, we should care. Goonswarm is taking an extremely well-organized stab at preventing access to all Gallente ice. And they're succeeding. Yes, I'm impressed. I read their battle plan (what was public info, anyway) and it was well-thought out and masterfully executed.

So, Goonswarm's great, and the rest of us "pubbies" just suck? Why? Why do we cry and wring our hands, instead of fighting back? Goons expect us to whine at CCP(who will laugh at us, since Goon is simply using area-denial strategies and not mucking with game mechanics), instead of fighting back. They hope we fight, all the while sighing at the 9,367th whiner in local who just lost their Mack because they didn't come prepared to fight for their piece of ice.

I'm not even an ice miner, yet. I wanted to be, but my Mack is safely stored at the moment. I don't want it to be. I want it to be out there, mining. But I can't. Because first, I need to make sure the ice is clear of Goons, and stays clear of Goons.

So, I know there are smart people out there. I want to hear your ideas about how to clear the belts and keep them clear. I'll start.

I plan to use an alt and repeatedly shoot ice in my noobship w/ the ol' Civilian blaster(Gallente), getting blown up over and over again, but hopefully keeping Concord in the belt. Will this work? Does this totally suck? It's essentially what Goon is doing, yes. According to their anti-Concord strategies.

If it sucks, does anyone have any better ideas, especially long-term ones? Heavily-reinforced fleets will certainly help, but keep in mind Goon will draw resources from other ice-belt systems if they need to take down a heavily-defended fleet. Hiring merc corps for defense?

We need ideas, men and women. And we need to fight. Unless we all want to whine in 6 months because a Tech 2 armor hardener now costs 40m.

First,

I would say there is about a 99?% chance the original poster is a goon swarm alt attempting to drive prices up with whiny posts about ice belts being camped. Perception is more damaging to the market price than the reality. While there are certainly a few goons suiciding in gallente high sec the majority are off in null sec raiding delve nightly or bearing to their hearts content in Deklein.

Second,

One of the responders in this thread pointed out that you can only suicide in high sec so many times before going dead red to concord. This is absolutely true. All it really takes to stop the suiciders is a few fast frigates or interceptors sitting on the nearest high sec to low sec gates. The suiciders will have to come from low sec to high sec because of their security status. Since they are red already all you have to do is get a point on them and concord kills them for you. A couple of points and a sebo would be optimal. You will get a nice little warning message from the faction police or concord every time a criminal comes into local from the gate you are on. Just tackle anyone flashy and concord does the rest. A few well organized mining bears could tackle this project with little difficulty.

Be aware that the goonies have put a bounty out on indy ships in Gallente and Caldari space. This isn't the official CCP sanctioned bounty system where you have a "WANTED" poster out for you. The people who are trying to collect these bounties are rarely K.O.S. red. *snip*

You are making the assumption that Goons are actually paying these bounties to people that aren't already their allies. I have no first-hand information to the contrary. Just throwing that out there.

In the 5 or 6 years playing this game, off and on, I have never seen a sorrier excuse of an alliance than I have now.
Even BOB was not as ignorant as you trying to pretend your a PVP alliance who's only skill is hitting miners that can not hit back.

Been considering playing the game again. Might still do so, Go back to making the ships every one will lose.

You are making the assumption that Goons are actually paying these bounties to people that aren't already their allies. I have no first-hand information to the contrary. Just throwing that out there.

Occasionally we 'Pubbies' get lucky. Today, one of my alts killed a Goon who was foolish enough to attack a mining ship with drones deployed. The Goon Alpha'd me, but didn't take me out and gave my drones, and Concord, a precious few seconds to respond. Concord hit him as he killed my ship, but while that was happening, one of my drones got in a lucky last shot and killed him. We killed each other at the same time. I have a KM where I'm the killer, and a KM where I've been killed.

Frankly, the Goon who let a mere miner kill his ship should be kicked from the Goons, but that's for the Goons to decide.

That all being said, Well Done to the Goons for doing what they said they'd do, and meaning what they said. I have only respect for that.

Protip: you're marked as "final blow" if you did any damage/offensive action to a player who was killed by NPCs

In the 5 or 6 years playing this game, off and on, I have never seen a sorrier excuse of an alliance than I have now.
Even BOB was not as ignorant as you trying to pretend your a PVP alliance who's only skill is hitting miners that can not hit back.

Been considering playing the game again. Might still do so, Go back to making the ships every one will lose.

...Didn't the goons infiltrate and gut BoB?

Whats GSF ?