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CCP Phantom C C P C C P Alliance 2473	Posted - 2012.12.03 15:41:00 - [1] - Quote As earlier reported the New York Museum of Modern Art has acquired EVE Online as part of its permanent collection. We will capture one day of life in New Eden on video and present it as part of this exhibition that would play acrosss two large screens. This video will also show gameplay videos recorded by you! Yes, you have the chance to get part of your video and your EVE life presented to millions of visitors at the Museum of Modern Art! Read all about this incredible opportunity in CCP t0rfifrans' devblog here. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator

EarthZone HomeZone 31	Posted - 2012.12.03 15:45:00 - [2] - Quote First?
ChromeStriker The Riot Formation Unclaimed. 278	Posted - 2012.12.03 15:49:00 - [3] - Quote will you accept a nudist piece?... Also i would say that this is a great way of advertising eve without making it an obvious advertising ploy. Show its beauty and people will be interested, please dont make this an obvious advert. - Nulla Curas

CCP RedDawn C C P C C P Alliance 275	Posted - 2012.12.03 15:50:00 - [4] - Quote I'd stare the s*** out of that art. Team (I'm not telling)


CCP t0rfifrans C C P C C P Alliance 625	Posted - 2012.12.03 15:52:00 - [5] - Quote ChromeStriker wrote: will you accept a nudist piece?... Sure. Not for this exhibition, though.

ChromeStriker The Riot Formation Unclaimed. 278	Posted - 2012.12.03 15:54:00 - [6] - Quote CCP t0rfifrans wrote: ChromeStriker wrote: will you accept a nudist piece?... Sure. Not for this exhibition, though. You may regret saying that... have you ever seen a goon fleet chat? - Nulla Curas
Bienator II madmen of the skies 1186	Posted - 2012.12.03 15:55:00 - [7] - Quote "give me all your isk i double it". whats left is to teach a monkey to write that on a wall and we are set. a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked
Hannott Thanos Notorious Legion 165	Posted - 2012.12.03 15:55:00 - [8] - Quote CCP t0rfifrans wrote: ChromeStriker wrote: will you accept a nudist piece?... Sure. Not for this exhibition, though. And most certainly NOT for personal...use...
wallenbergaren Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 49	Posted - 2012.12.03 16:00:00 - [9] - Quote Will there be no chronicling of EVE history at the exhibit?
DaiTengu GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 125	Posted - 2012.12.03 16:01:00 - [10] - Quote Does the video have to be captured on December 9th? (I'm asking this now, because I know someone else will if I don't)

CCP RubberBAND CCP Engineering Corp CCP Engineering Alliance 110	Posted - 2012.12.03 16:02:00 - [11] - Quote Wait a minute, that's more than 3... Look forward to the submissions. Feel free to poke me on: Twitter


CCP t0rfifrans C C P C C P Alliance 625	Posted - 2012.12.03 16:04:00 - [12] - Quote wallenbergaren wrote: Will there be no chronicling of EVE history at the exhibit? Not explicitly there, this is not the right forum for it, but be sure we are working on several fronts to prepare something like that for the 10 year anniversary.

Valkyrs Deep Vein Trading 10	Posted - 2012.12.03 16:04:00 - [13] - Quote The first time I started reading ISK 3.0 I was entrenched with the lore. I was confused why this part of EVE had not been introduced to me in regular gameplay. In museums I particularly like the exhibits that feature a sort of tunnel with timelines and images from those times, sounds, radio chatter, video clips, etc. This acts as a bridge between reality and a fictional world, and puts you there. Going with the whole EVE is Real idea, this has the potential to be amazing. A good exhibit is immersive. It would serve a dual-purpose to develop a 'video trailer' for EVE that started current day and went to the rise of the different factions. It could be used for the exhibit and it would also help feed the lore bucket that we can't get enough of, with content we have never seen. Put it online or as the EVE intro, it's classic but really it's due for a remake, especially with DUST about to hit. EVE can make you feel like you're in the game, I would hope that such an exhibit would give that impression. Good luck, make us proud CCP!

CCP t0rfifrans C C P C C P Alliance 626	Posted - 2012.12.03 16:14:00 - [14] - Quote DaiTengu wrote: Does the video have to be captured on December 9th? (I'm asking this now, because I know someone else will if I don't) Yes, preferably. The concept is that this shows a slice of EVE, one day thick. Otherwise we would use various existing player videos that are online already. By having it captured on Sunday, Dec, 9th, we can intercut several videos from different perspectives, both in the same solarsystem or different parts of the universe. It also allows us to show infographics of the same events or a collection events, using the backend data we will capture the same day.

Rordan D'Kherr Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 225	Posted - 2012.12.03 16:20:00 - [15] - Quote This will be epic. I'll promote it in my alliance, maybe some OPs will go on 9th. Not sure though.... _______________________________________ Don't be scared, because being afk is not a crime.
MotherMoon Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 1177	Posted - 2012.12.03 16:38:00 - [16] - Quote hmmm wait let me think of what I could do... hmmm also if I were you,leave a copy of isk 3.0 laying around, or an EON. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg
Daedalus II The Oasis Group TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance 141	Posted - 2012.12.03 16:42:00 - [17] - Quote Not to tell you how to do this, but I think an interesting way of showing all these videos would be to have the large screens as touch screens, then divide the screen area into a lot of small tiles, with a size of maybe 5x5 cm, all of them playing their own video simultaneously. Then if someone wants to see a specific video they can touch that tile and it will expand, hiding some of the other tiles in the process. All the videos could take place during the same say 5 minutes, giving a feeling for everything that happens all the time in EVE.
Nirnaeth Ornoediad Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension 137	Posted - 2012.12.03 16:47:00 - [18] - Quote Sounds like a perfect time for a Burn Jita Part 2 operation. Or we should just make POS art. Even though it's not December 9th, Vile Rat's cyno vigil would be an interesting mention. "The Mittani isn't even gone for a day and CCP's management is already making bad decisions." THE MITTANI for CEO of CCP 1-800-273-8255
Kemeton Black Flag Operations The Kadeshi 2	Posted - 2012.12.03 16:53:00 - [19] - Quote Will there be a screen at the museum that show EVE statistics that update in real time? Getting statistics on the core features of the game. Destroying ships, the market and item manufacturing. Lets say a screen that shows: - Number of ships destroyed in the past hour or 10 minutes and the ISK value of them. - Number of market transactions in the past minute and amount of ISK changing hands in thoes transactions. - Number of items being built by players. - Number of EVEmails being sent in the past 10 minutes. - Number of characters online (obviously).

CCP t0rfifrans C C P C C P Alliance 626	Posted - 2012.12.03 17:01:00 - [20] - Quote Kemeton wrote: Will there be a screen at the museum that show EVE statistics that update in real time? Getting statistics on the core features of the game. Destroying ships, the market and item manufacturing. Lets say a screen that shows: - Number of ships destroyed in the past hour or 10 minutes and the ISK value of them. - Number of market transactions in the past minute and amount of ISK changing hands in thoes transactions. - Number of items being built by players. - Number of EVEmails being sent in the past 10 minutes. - Number of characters online (obviously). We did consider it, but being that the exhibit is up for 11 months, and we couldn't ensure uptime ( expansions, patches and other downtime ) we opted for a perfectly pre-cooked exhibit that will aim to show the metrics you list, but for that date, rather than in real time.

Midnight Hope Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 54	Posted - 2012.12.03 17:16:00 - [21] - Quote No small feat. Congratz CCP! Long live EVE!
Skawl Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore 3	Posted - 2012.12.03 17:19:00 - [22] - Quote This sounds awesome. Will we get to see the finished article (without a trip to the museum)?
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 68	Posted - 2012.12.03 17:19:00 - [23] - Quote Quote: Rather than having a PC simply running EVE somewhere in the corner with a keyboard and mouse and risk the untrained audience spending their time angrily trying to open the door in the captainGÇÿs quarters or being serial suicide ganked in Jita,..... Would you rather...? Sorry, you can't. Inside mining barge, true story
Besbin Balderfrey Holding inc 13	Posted - 2012.12.03 17:22:00 - [24] - Quote Wauw... This is like seein' yer kids grow up. It's awesome! Super congrats!!! Also... It doesn't say for how long it will feature? It says it start March 2013, but that's it. You see, I happen to be moving to New York on May 1st, so could be real damn fun to go watch it. :-) /Besbin

CCP t0rfifrans C C P C C P Alliance 626	Posted - 2012.12.03 17:30:00 - [25] - Quote Besbin wrote: Wauw... This is like seein' yer kids grow up. It's awesome! Super congrats!!! Also... It doesn't say for how long it will feature? It says it start March 2013, but that's it. You see, I happen to be moving to New York on May 1st, so could be real damn fun to go watch it. :-) /Besbin It closes end of Jan 2014, so you should have ample time to go see it!

Archetype 66 Pleasure and Pain 117	Posted - 2012.12.03 17:32:00 - [26] - Quote "Due to a problem with the database after the installation of Retribution, we expect an extended DT from 09H00 to 22H00. Please accept our apologies for this inconvenience." Master piece isn'it ? 0.05% of an Eve life, but eveyone keeps it in mind
Balshin Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.12.03 17:33:00 - [27] - Quote Quote: By sending the URL to CCP you are giving CCP a license to use your material and *forfeiting* copyright, so CCP is in no way obliged to compensate you for using the video in the exhibit. Interesting. If i understand that correct, the creator of this link (and video) will lose the copyright, right? Then i hope, you are carefully about uploads from German users. If i remember, Copyright in Germany cannot be transferred or forfeit. But you can get a licence. Of course, the used material in this movie is under CCP Cpyright. But not the Movie. Ok, i'm not a lawyer. I just want to say something that could be important. (I Hope u understand what i'm talking about :-))
kyrieee Snuff Box 103	Posted - 2012.12.03 17:36:00 - [28] - Quote CCP t0rfifrans wrote: We did consider it, but being that the exhibit is up for 11 months, and we couldn't ensure uptime ( expansions, patches and other downtime ) we opted for a perfectly pre-cooked exhibit that will aim to show the metrics you list, but for that date, rather than in real time. It's only a temporary exhibit? I got the impression it was permanent
Royk Hard Knocks Inc. 3	Posted - 2012.12.03 17:38:00 - [29] - Quote just to make sure: do you want raw videos? (no editing from the users side)

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire 5745	Posted - 2012.12.03 17:44:00 - [30] - Quote This is awesome! /c GÿàGÿàGÿà Secure 3rd party service GÿàGÿàGÿà Visit my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar' Follow me on Twitter @Chribba

Sered Woollahra No Fixed Abode Mildly Sober 11	Posted - 2012.12.03 17:45:00 - [31] - Quote I used to record gaming stuff using the wegame client (www.wegame.com), but I quit when my laptop got too outdated. I recently bought a new computer, should I try wegame again or is it inferior to the alternatives listed in this devblog?

CCP t0rfifrans C C P C C P Alliance 626	Posted - 2012.12.03 17:53:00 - [32] - Quote kyrieee wrote: CCP t0rfifrans wrote: We did consider it, but being that the exhibit is up for 11 months, and we couldn't ensure uptime ( expansions, patches and other downtime ) we opted for a perfectly pre-cooked exhibit that will aim to show the metrics you list, but for that date, rather than in real time. It's only a temporary exhibit? I got the impression it was permanent The exhibit is temporary, for 11 months, but EVE is being acquired into the permanent collection. Things like the original box, running code etc, will be stored in some underground vault deep below Manhattan.


CCP t0rfifrans C C P C C P Alliance 626	Posted - 2012.12.03 17:54:00 - [33] - Quote Royk wrote: just to make sure: do you want raw videos? (no editing from the users side) For this purpose, it-¦s better to have them raw. But they don-¦t have to be long, better have them short and concise, it makes life easier for the guy who is doing the logging and editing on our side.

Vera Algaert Republic University Minmatar Republic 462	Posted - 2012.12.03 18:36:00 - [34] - Quote Little sad about your choice of a Sunday for this event. From my point of view one of the most fascinating aspects of EVE is the ebb and flow of activity that goes in hand with the primetimes of the "big" timezones (Oceanic, Russian, EU, US West, US East) approaching and passing. But on weekends all player activity tends to blend together as players log on earlier and log off later than during workdays... I'm a NPC corp alt, any argument I make is invalid.
jason hill The Riot Formation Unclaimed. 105	Posted - 2012.12.03 18:56:00 - [35] - Quote I hope that whoever is going to be doing this does not neglect to mention all the little minor setbacks that we have encounterd along our ten year journey ..little things when our ships suddenly turned into asteroids and that liitle cockup called " Delete boot.ini" in one of the expansions . ahhhh a day in the life of a space farer.
A8ina Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 24	Posted - 2012.12.03 19:18:00 - [36] - Quote finally sum recognition for game artists
Plaude Pollard Crimson Cartel 90	Posted - 2012.12.03 19:37:00 - [37] - Quote I would contribute if I had a PC capable of running EVE smoothly along with anything else and with decent graphics. Sadly, though, I don't... New to EVE? Want to learn? The Crimson Cartel will train you in the fields of your choice. Mainly active in EU afternoons and evenings. Contact me for more info.
Grimpak Midnight Elites Echelon Rising 485	Posted - 2012.12.03 20:14:00 - [38] - Quote what, explaining EVE in 2-3 minutes is hard? here's a simplistic way as a starting point: Money + human + ammunition = EXPLOSIONS AND DRAMA. *IN SPACE* [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img] [quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Virr Kotto Protagonists Of Doom 3	Posted - 2012.12.03 20:16:00 - [39] - Quote You have absolutely no idea of the potential for asshattery this request embodies..... On second thought... maybe you do.
Claire Raynor NovaGear 29	Posted - 2012.12.03 20:18:00 - [40] - Quote CCP t0rfifrans wrote: ChromeStriker wrote: will you accept a nudist piece?... Sure. Not for this exhibition, though. Nice :P. Honest. Concise. Plain Language.
jason hill The Riot Formation Unclaimed. 105	Posted - 2012.12.03 20:24:00 - [41] - Quote Claire Raynor wrote: CCP t0rfifrans wrote: ChromeStriker wrote: will you accept a nudist piece?... Sure. Not for this exhibition, though. Nice :P. Honest. Concise. Plain Language. arnt u dead bro !

CCP t0rfifrans C C P C C P Alliance 631	Posted - 2012.12.03 21:12:00 - [42] - Quote There is a thread on reddit on the same topic, I wrote a reply there to this question: It would be best to have the ingame music and other music turned off, since many videos may be shown together. Having your comms would be great, since we're trying to communicate the fact that EVE is massively social science fiction simulator, where the world and its story is mostly written by its players. In general, short, unedited clips would be better, since we're trying to portray what actually happened from the player's point of view. However, if you have great video editing and production skills and experience with making ingame videos and using advanced camera moves, then by all means go for it, just be ready to have your "baby" chopped up on the editing board, as it is mixed or placed side by side to other videos, player made and CCP made. Thanks!

Sylvous Bigger than Jesus 28	Posted - 2012.12.03 23:05:00 - [43] - Quote Awesome, this is the perfect chance for some of us low sec guys in Molden heath to show some of the awesome frigate fights that happen in Heild due to the presence of the 2/10 complex there... Oh wait... nvm
MotherMoon Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 1177	Posted - 2012.12.03 23:19:00 - [44] - Quote um what about the HUD, you want it on? off? http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg
Jason Edwards Internet Tough Guy Spreadsheets Online 39	Posted - 2012.12.03 23:49:00 - [45] - Quote Quote: Evil corporate legal jargon: By sending the URL to CCP you are giving CCP a license to use your material and forfeiting copyright, so CCP is in no way obliged to compensate you for using the video in the exhibit. They even forfeit the copyright... wow. Youtube hosting the **** doesn't even do that. Hell in most of the world this isn't binding at all. Hell a corporation without exhaustive copyright handling legalese in the employment contract often doesn't have the power to take the copyright as much as they want. Furthermore you are trapped in an authenticity disaster. If sending a link is all it takes for you to take the copyright. What if I were to send in Farjung's videos. Are they urs now?
Tarvos Telesto Blood Fanatics 100	Posted - 2012.12.04 00:02:00 - [46] - Quote CCP t0rfifrans wrote: kyrieee wrote: CCP t0rfifrans wrote: We did consider it, but being that the exhibit is up for 11 months, and we couldn't ensure uptime ( expansions, patches and other downtime ) we opted for a perfectly pre-cooked exhibit that will aim to show the metrics you list, but for that date, rather than in real time. It's only a temporary exhibit? I got the impression it was permanent The exhibit is temporary, for 11 months, but EVE is being acquired into the permanent collection. Things like the original box, running code etc, will be stored in some underground vault deep below Manhattan. EVE will survive 21.12.2012 good job! Some plants seeds are safe in some underground place in Norway, and now this, CCP are smart EvE isn't game, its style of living.

CCP t0rfifrans C C P C C P Alliance 633	Posted - 2012.12.04 00:20:00 - [47] - Quote MotherMoon wrote: um what about the HUD, you want it on? off? On, please, so that people can see that it-¦s a person playing.


CCP t0rfifrans C C P C C P Alliance 633	Posted - 2012.12.04 00:22:00 - [48] - Quote Jason Edwards wrote: Quote: Evil corporate legal jargon: By sending the URL to CCP you are giving CCP a license to use your material and forfeiting copyright, so CCP is in no way obliged to compensate you for using the video in the exhibit. They even forfeit the copyright... wow. Youtube hosting the **** doesn't even do that. Hell in most of the world this isn't binding at all. Hell a corporation without exhaustive copyright handling legalese in the employment contract often doesn't have the power to take the copyright as much as they want. Furthermore you are trapped in an authenticity disaster. If sending a link is all it takes for you to take the copyright. What if I were to send in Farjung's videos. Are they urs now? Well, I said it was evil. Basically what it means is that you are agreeing that we can use the video in our video.

Spacing Cowboy Ordo Drakonis Nulli Secunda 31	Posted - 2012.12.04 03:49:00 - [49] - Quote Use a little chuck of that trailer with the angry Merlin pilot , ( with the shitload of icons / sandbox thingy ) , kind of puts Eve really compressed. Use market charts / TS overlays ( combat comms ) Talk to dotlan to ask if you can use there influence map, ( SOV ) ?
rodyas Tie Fighters Inc 883	Posted - 2012.12.04 04:01:00 - [50] - Quote Jason Edwards wrote: Quote: Evil corporate legal jargon: By sending the URL to CCP you are giving CCP a license to use your material and forfeiting copyright, so CCP is in no way obliged to compensate you for using the video in the exhibit. They even forfeit the copyright... wow. Youtube hosting the **** doesn't even do that. Hell in most of the world this isn't binding at all. Hell a corporation without exhaustive copyright handling legalese in the employment contract often doesn't have the power to take the copyright as much as they want. Furthermore you are trapped in an authenticity disaster. If sending a link is all it takes for you to take the copyright. What if I were to send in Farjung's videos. Are they urs now? CCP would probably act as if they owned those videos, until the true creators contacted them about it. Then most likely CCP or the local police could contact you about, fraud. So might not be so wise to do. You can always turn in a fake check to the bank to get real money from it. But perhaps not always the best idea. I'm not shitposting.
MotherMoon Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 1179	Posted - 2012.12.04 07:10:00 - [51] - Quote the made the game they own the footage :P hell they own us, like our characters. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg
pussnheels The Fiction Factory 744	Posted - 2012.12.04 08:50:00 - [52] - Quote uumm why not provide them with a live feed that changes system/ place every 2 minutes and can be directed to a event that is happening at that time I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
Shalia Ripper 221	Posted - 2012.12.04 08:57:00 - [53] - Quote Note to self - Record ship spinning. Why can't I just delete my signature CCP? WHYYYYYYY? Signatures have consequences - Malcanis
Renan Ruivo Vera Cruz. Nulli Secunda 911	Posted - 2012.12.04 09:45:00 - [54] - Quote CCP t0rfifrans wrote: More games are to follow, itGÇÿs easy to start asking GÇPwhy isnGÇÿt game X there?GÇ£. But hey, they listed EVE Online, so thatGÇÿs good enough for us! They also listed The Sims. The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Niko Lorenzio United Eve Directorate 96	Posted - 2012.12.04 09:48:00 - [55] - Quote Oops... posted on wrong thread. Delete please.
Foo Kugai Quasi-Farcical Troupe 0	Posted - 2012.12.04 10:09:00 - [56] - Quote I'm really not trying to be a troll but.. "Rather than having a PC simply running EVE somewhere in the corner with a keyboard and mouse and risk the untrained audience spending their time angrily trying to open the door in the captainGÇÿs quarters or being serial suicide ganked in Jita" Doesn't this say something about the game that deserves being looked into? I mean, as a game company, if you acknowledge that these are in fact negative aspects of the game experience, shouldn't there be some internal commitment to correct them? Foo
Sayf ulMulk Royal Starlancers 1	Posted - 2012.12.04 10:37:00 - [57] - Quote I hope you dont plan to use it as some sort of advertisment becouse the second someone logs in to the game he will be feeling betrayed. Especialy when most of the time newbie will have to spend mining since they dont know anythink about ship fitting so they die in misisons constantly or buying new ships since griefer flipped his cans in training systems and he got poped. No form of advertisment will help when new player feels the game is diametricaly different then presented advertisment version of the "usual day".

CCP t0rfifrans C C P C C P Alliance 636	Posted - 2012.12.04 12:12:00 - [58] - Quote Foo Kugai wrote: I'm really not trying to be a troll but.. "Rather than having a PC simply running EVE somewhere in the corner with a keyboard and mouse and risk the untrained audience spending their time angrily trying to open the door in the captainGÇÿs quarters or being serial suicide ganked in Jita" Doesn't this say something about the game that deserves being looked into? I mean, as a game company, if you acknowledge that these are in fact negative aspects of the game experience, shouldn't there be some internal commitment to correct them? Foo Well, they have the same challenge with Dwarf Fortress. Now that's a game even more hard to get into. It should we noted, we have a full team dedicated to improving the usability and player experience, and they are doing a good job, IMHO. Still, even if it was all great and streamlined, you wouldn-¦t be able to get to grips and understand the depth of the EVE Universe in a hands on demo lasting 2-3 minutes. Plus people at museums are shy, the only people that engage in the interactive pieces are geeks and children, who have no fear of technology.

Jim Nastik W.o.l.f.p.a.c.k 1	Posted - 2012.12.04 13:27:00 - [59] - Quote INCENTIVE NEEDED! players doing work for CCP by providing their recorded material to CCP, should be compensated. Since this collage is one of the rare massmedia promotionof the game and the dust eve universe. give people, whos material is shown in the final collage some thing. PLEX, Instant finish of one skill of choice (i get chills thinking about this ^^), implants, ships, i could go on here. But i honestly think that for what people will do here (put effort, time and nerves in etc.), and what CCP gets out of it, is not a fair trade. happy capturing/editing
Tommy Blue Blackstar Technologies 8	Posted - 2012.12.04 15:42:00 - [60] - Quote While displaying videos/metrics/whatever is cool and all, having it interactive should be a priority. Since that is what eve is. You don't watch things pass you by, you go out and change it. Remember the butterfly effect video? Make an interactive version of that. Give the player a scenario, and different choices. Those choices affect the world in a certain way, and you proceed through some rudimentary storyline making choices: "Do I do X, Y, Z?" And at the end the consequences (good/bad/neutral) are shown to the player. That will have the most dramatic affect upon people. Being able to show that anyone can make an impact in one of the largest virtual worlds will make the most lasting impression than a bunch of videos and metrics.
Hakaru Ishiwara Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 363	Posted - 2012.12.04 16:23:00 - [61] - Quote Tommy Blue wrote: While displaying videos/metrics/whatever is cool and all, having it interactive should be a priority. Since that is what eve is. You don't watch things pass you by, you go out and change it. Remember the butterfly effect video? Make an interactive version of that. Give the player a scenario, and different choices. Those choices affect the world in a certain way, and you proceed through some rudimentary storyline making choices: "Do I do X, Y, Z?" And at the end the consequences (good/bad/neutral) are shown to the player. That will have the most dramatic affect upon people. Being able to show that anyone can make an impact in one of the largest virtual worlds will make the most lasting impression than a bunch of videos and metrics. Are we making (******) marketing content for CCP or are we creating examples of what make EVE fun for the rest of us? Having fleet comms included in with the video is probably the best idea professed in this thread. There are countless epic scenarios that occur on voice communication software in fleets everyday. It might be somewhat contrived trying to create and capture events on a single day, though. There will be asshattery. There will be ganks. There will be a ton of truly awful things done that day. Of these things, I am certain. Also, the peacefulness of deep space with EVE nebulae graphics is not to be dismissed when it comes to the EVE experience. Furthermore, the juxtaposition of utter quiet and peace with extreme and immediate violence is a big part of EVE. Do not discount that contrast, CCP. +++++++ I have never shed a tear for a fellow EVE player until now. Mark GÇ£SeleeneGÇ¥ Heard's Blog Honoring Sean "Vile Rat" Smith.
Tommy Blue Blackstar Technologies 8	Posted - 2012.12.04 16:40:00 - [62] - Quote Hakaru Ishiwara wrote: Tommy Blue wrote: While displaying videos/metrics/whatever is cool and all, having it interactive should be a priority. Since that is what eve is. You don't watch things pass you by, you go out and change it. Remember the butterfly effect video? Make an interactive version of that. Give the player a scenario, and different choices. Those choices affect the world in a certain way, and you proceed through some rudimentary storyline making choices: "Do I do X, Y, Z?" And at the end the consequences (good/bad/neutral) are shown to the player. That will have the most dramatic affect upon people. Being able to show that anyone can make an impact in one of the largest virtual worlds will make the most lasting impression than a bunch of videos and metrics. Are we making (******) marketing content for CCP or are we creating examples of what make EVE fun for the rest of us? Having fleet comms included in with the video is probably the best idea professed in this thread. There are countless epic scenarios that occur on voice communication software in fleets everyday. It might be somewhat contrived trying to create and capture events on a single day, though. There will be asshattery. There will be ganks. There will be a ton of truly awful things done that day. Of these things, I am certain. Also, the peacefulness of deep space with EVE nebulae graphics is not to be dismissed when it comes to the EVE experience. Furthermore, the juxtaposition of utter quiet and peace with extreme and immediate violence is a big part of EVE. Do not discount that contrast, CCP. What's not to say that part of the storyline has these videos in it? Part of your made up storyline could be to take part in a large fleet fight where some actual footage is played (w/ comms ect). While it is good to have the 'real' part of eve, I also think it is important to have the 'gametrailer' be part of it, because that is what gets people interested. People are going to want to be drawn in to watch the entire segment that CCP creates for MoMA and gametrailers do the same thing.
jirza Adoudel INTJ warehouse WHYS0 Expendable 0	Posted - 2012.12.04 16:54:00 - [63] - Quote 1 day - I am downolading 5Gb because I cant download patch by launcher , realy nice work
valSharen Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.12.04 17:26:00 - [64] - Quote @ op: maybe add http://mirillis.com/en/products/action.html to the list of video recorders, as this has replaced fraps for me and works just so fine o/ val
Hakaru Ishiwara Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 363	Posted - 2012.12.04 20:43:00 - [65] - Quote Tommy Blue wrote: Hakaru Ishiwara wrote: Tommy Blue wrote: While displaying videos/metrics/whatever is cool and all, having it interactive should be a priority. Since that is what eve is. You don't watch things pass you by, you go out and change it. Remember the butterfly effect video? Make an interactive version of that. Give the player a scenario, and different choices. Those choices affect the world in a certain way, and you proceed through some rudimentary storyline making choices: "Do I do X, Y, Z?" And at the end the consequences (good/bad/neutral) are shown to the player. That will have the most dramatic affect upon people. Being able to show that anyone can make an impact in one of the largest virtual worlds will make the most lasting impression than a bunch of videos and metrics. Are we making (****) marketing content for CCP or are we creating examples of what make EVE fun for the rest of us? Having fleet comms included in with the video is probably the best idea professed in this thread. There are countless epic scenarios that occur on voice communication software in fleets everyday. It might be somewhat contrived trying to create and capture events on a single day, though. There will be asshattery. There will be ganks. There will be a ton of truly awful things done that day. Of these things, I am certain. Also, the peacefulness of deep space with EVE nebulae graphics is not to be dismissed when it comes to the EVE experience. Furthermore, the juxtaposition of utter quiet and peace with extreme and immediate violence is a big part of EVE. Do not discount that contrast, CCP. What's not to say that part of the storyline has these videos in it? Part of your made up storyline could be to take part in a large fleet fight where some actual footage is played (w/ comms ect). While it is good to have the 'real' part of eve, I also think it is important to have the 'gametrailer' be part of it, because that is what gets people interested. People are going to want to be drawn in to watch the entire segment that CCP creates for MoMA and gametrailers do the same thing. The bottom line for me is that CCP has recently done a **** job at portraying EVE as I have experienced it (high, low, null and w-space) over the past 5.5 years. I'd much rather see truthful player experiences rather than the highly contrived scenarios that CCP sets up for their trailers. That is not to deny the entertainment that you may derive from the trailers, but I'd much rather see real content submitted for such an important art installation. +++++++ I have never shed a tear for a fellow EVE player until now. Mark GÇ£SeleeneGÇ¥ Heard's Blog Honoring Sean "Vile Rat" Smith.
Tommy Blue Blackstar Technologies 8	Posted - 2012.12.04 22:32:00 - [66] - Quote Let's be real though. If CCP was going to display what EVE REALLY is, then no one would watch it and they would think its stupid. 1/4 of it would be miners sitting watching their lasers, another 1/4 would be a representation of giant botting empires, a 1/4 devoted to getting insta nuked by a bunch of hostiles and another 1/4 to moving stuff around and setting up poses. (yeah exaggerations...) The majority of the game is BORING. Its only a small 5-10% or so that is fun...really fun. So if you want an accurate representation of the game play, people are going to ask "Why the **** is this game in the MoMA?" You need to spice it up and show the full potential of the game whilst also showing that 5-10%. That is what the trailers do, it gets people excited. I wouldn't doubt if they were a large part of the reason that many people sub in after each expansion to check things out...because the trailers are pretty cool.
Foo Kugai Quasi-Farcical Troupe 0	Posted - 2012.12.05 00:05:00 - [67] - Quote CCP t0rfifrans wrote: Foo Kugai wrote: I'm really not trying to be a troll but.. "Rather than having a PC simply running EVE somewhere in the corner with a keyboard and mouse and risk the untrained audience spending their time angrily trying to open the door in the captainGÇÿs quarters or being serial suicide ganked in Jita" Doesn't this say something about the game that deserves being looked into? I mean, as a game company, if you acknowledge that these are in fact negative aspects of the game experience, shouldn't there be some internal commitment to correct them? Foo Well, they have the same challenge with Dwarf Fortress. Now that's a game even more hard to get into. It should we noted, we have a full team dedicated to improving the usability and player experience, and they are doing a good job, IMHO. Still, even if it was all great and streamlined, you wouldn-¦t be able to get to grips and understand the depth of the EVE Universe in a hands on demo lasting 2-3 minutes. Plus people at museums are shy, the only people that engage in the interactive pieces are geeks and children, who have no fear of technology. I donGÇÖt disagree with any of your points. IGÇÖve recently return to the game after some time away, and was very quickly reminded of why I always end up quitting. Frustrating UI and griefers. As these have been issues for years, IGÇÖd pretty much just assumed that CCP didnGÇÖt really see them as things that were harming the game. The original quote led me to suspect that there may be some acknowledgement of these issues, raising the question of why they have remained such tremendous blights on the play experience. I have to wonder if anyone at CCP has dared to imagine how successful the game would be were it not plagued by these frustrations. I understand that this is outside the subject of this thread, so I'll refrain from further posts on this matter. It is good to know there is some acknowledgment of these issues. I can at least hope that someday the game will be what, I feel, it could be.

CCP t0rfifrans C C P C C P Alliance 641	Posted - 2012.12.05 00:53:00 - [68] - Quote One more thing to mention, I was asked of this outside this forum: The last day to submit your captured video is Dec 31st. After that date, the videos have gone into post-production offsite and we can't commit to your submissions being part of the source material used if they arrive later. Plus by then the Mayan Apocalypse is done, so it may as well be best to get the videos finished before that takes place.

Linda kays United Empires Asset 0	Posted - 2012.12.05 16:57:00 - [69] - Quote CCP t0rfifrans wrote: Kemeton wrote: Will there be a screen at the museum that show EVE statistics that update in real time? Getting statistics on the core features of the game. Destroying ships, the market and item manufacturing. Lets say a screen that shows: - Number of ships destroyed in the past hour or 10 minutes and the ISK value of them. - Number of market transactions in the past minute and amount of ISK changing hands in thoes transactions. - Number of items being built by players. - Number of EVEmails being sent in the past 10 minutes. - Number of characters online (obviously). We did consider it, but being that the exhibit is up for 11 months, and we couldn't ensure uptime ( expansions, patches and other downtime ) we opted for a perfectly pre-cooked exhibit that will aim to show the metrics you list, but for that date, rather than in real time. Just putting in a note here about being interresting vs being authentic. With those metrics, carebears aren't desired much, yet we must accept there's a good deal of them in game. For most of those mining carebears a day may consist simply of mining, and refine it at the end. Consider to include that as that actually is a day in Eve for some people. Speeding things up, having a clean pressentation of say a belt being striped over a few hours by a few lone miners and haulers would actually say alot about Eve. Especially if the miners are sociale via the ingame coms during such an operation. It would be easy to create for the devs, but I suspect a lot of Carebears not willing to make or share the information contained in such a video (1. step of Carebear grief is gankers obtaining that information, 2. step is the grief fleet coming to pop some high sec Hulks and Orcas.) I'm just saying.
Hatsumi Kobayashi Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 232	Posted - 2012.12.05 21:42:00 - [70] - Quote Gonna send you some awesome shots of me logging in, spinning my ship, talking smack in local and logging off after 10 minutes. **** will be so cash. CAUTION SNIGGS
MainDrain 7th Deepari Defence Armada The Veyr Collective 16	Posted - 2012.12.06 15:07:00 - [71] - Quote Can you publicise this more! I had to hear about this through a gaming new website rather than forums, tweets or devblogs I understand the bit in the blog saying you will own the copyright to all links we send you and that we wont be paid for the stuff we send. Could you not perhaps give away from free Aurum, or free SP on bucky for those characters that send you video, images, voice etc
Logicycle Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing 76	Posted - 2012.12.06 22:17:00 - [72] - Quote This is awesome.
MegaTOHHA Real Enemy Academy SOLAR WING 0	Posted - 2012.12.07 15:38:00 - [73] - Quote Someone, who can capture scene 'Titan is born' - don't think, just do it
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 178	Posted - 2012.12.07 18:49:00 - [74] - Quote CCP, I hate to rain on your parade, but... " Evil corporate legal jargon: By sending the URL to CCP you are giving CCP a license to use your material and forfeiting copyright, so CCP is in no way obliged to compensate you for using the video in the exhibit." This is illegal in any nation signatory to the Berne agreement, including Iceland (IIRC). While licensing you the right to use our work is acceptable, any work posted to youtube is automatically copyright under the law, and copyright law in most nations does not allow for the forfeiture or transfer of Moral Rights under any circumstances. Further, there is no guarantee the person submitting is the person that produced the work in question. You could argue derivative work as it's based off the work of the game artists, but given the nature of the contest, this is pretty shaky ground. Please have legal review your announcements before announcing them. The Most Interesting Player In Eve.
Kairos Antilles The Scope Gallente Federation 28	Posted - 2012.12.07 22:01:00 - [75] - Quote Be sure to **** up local with the most vile racist and homophobic slurs you can concoct. After all, we're striving for an accurate picture of the playerbase, right? (I kid, of course)
Lord KesH Incarnation of Evil 0	Posted - 2012.12.08 05:42:00 - [76] - Quote Just show the "I was there" trailer - That gives an amazing feeling of what eve gives you...
Disteeler Gradient Electus Matari 0	Posted - 2012.12.08 09:08:00 - [77] - Quote Is CCP Archivist actually somebody? I'm a documentalist/librarian/archivist in RL, would be nice to know wich tasks he develops! BTW very nice initiative and congrats on being on a permanent collection on MOMA, now that's a badge! The "I was there", Causality, Butterfly and Tyrannis trailers are my favourites to grasp what is EvE in minutes.
Tferr Tantalos State Protectorate Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.12.08 15:30:00 - [78] - Quote I'll absolutely try to contribute. By the way, is there a need to record sound? I seem to have gotten it into my head that the exhibitions won't have audio and that I can cut down on the filesize/listen to my own music as I record gameplay.
Elvis Preslie NRDS Securities Apocalypse Now. 17	Posted - 2012.12.09 00:36:00 - [79] - Quote I guess the best way would be to make a compilation of all the things possible in eve, with the little stuff showing 5 - 10 seconds each feature and the most exciting and intriguing to take up more time. Make a sandbox for the gallery viewer to interact with; each scenario featured have them activate weapons or something simple so they dont have to learn all of eve just to fight another ship for 3 minutes. Also the scenarios should randomly pick between ships of all 4 races. Each time they view the exhibit, its different and in a different setting with them being overpowered or them overpowering the "NPC" opponent. If its more for the artwork, random ships from 4 races flying around solar systems but adding TRUE celestial anomalies, not the anomalies we fight rats in.

CCP t0rfifrans C C P C C P Alliance 643	Posted - 2012.12.09 11:03:00 - [80] - Quote Disteeler wrote: Is CCP Archivist actually somebody? I'm a documentalist/librarian/archivist in RL, would be nice to know wich tasks he develops! BTW very nice initiative and congrats on being on a permanent collection on MOMA, now that's a badge! The "I was there", Causality, Butterfly and Tyrannis trailers are my favourites to grasp what is EvE in minutes. CCP Archivist is just an alt to harvest mail, sorry!


CCP t0rfifrans C C P C C P Alliance 644	Posted - 2012.12.09 11:04:00 - [81] - Quote Tferr Tantalos wrote: I'll absolutely try to contribute. By the way, is there a need to record sound? I seem to have gotten it into my head that the exhibitions won't have audio and that I can cut down on the filesize/listen to my own music as I record gameplay. yes please, keep sound in there, but keep music volume to 0, as we will add music to it. It will be up to the person doing the edits how much original sound he uses, but having the source gives him a better choice. Thanks!!

Bloodpetal Sal's Waste Management and Pod Disposal The Mockers AO 1065	Posted - 2012.12.09 13:08:00 - [82] - Quote TBH the "waive" your copyright isn't an issue. It's well under the fair use act any way you cut it - Using it for a museum exhibition is for educational purposes. Where I am.
Mars Theran Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 502	Posted - 2012.12.09 16:15:00 - [83] - Quote Jim Nastik wrote: INCENTIVE NEEDED! players doing work for CCP by providing their recorded material to CCP, should be compensated. Since this collage is one of the rare massmedia promotionof the game and the dust eve universe. give people, whos material is shown in the final collage some thing. PLEX, Instant finish of one skill of choice (i get chills thinking about this ^^), implants, ships, i could go on here. But i honestly think that for what people will do here (put effort, time and nerves in etc.), and what CCP gets out of it, is not a fair trade. happy capturing/editing It's really not that hard to press F9 a few times... zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub
Mars Theran Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 502	Posted - 2012.12.09 16:19:00 - [84] - Quote CCP t0rfifrans wrote: Tferr Tantalos wrote: I'll absolutely try to contribute. By the way, is there a need to record sound? I seem to have gotten it into my head that the exhibitions won't have audio and that I can cut down on the filesize/listen to my own music as I record gameplay. yes please, keep sound in there, but keep music volume to 0, as we will add music to it. It will be up to the person doing the edits how much original sound he uses, but having the source gives him a better choice. Thanks!! My apologies, but I made my recordings before I read this bit, and it took me some 2-3 hours to find a suitable mission, so I don't really feel like repeating the process to see if I can find another one. Also, they're uploading atm, with one nearly done and the others in queue. It should be just game sound and music; not sure you can edit one out without the other without using some seriously expensive toys, but it might help to know that I never hear the game anyway as I only have headphones and rarely use them. tl;dr, my experience is without sound, so if you'd like to use some of my recordings, you can always just delete the sound layer and run it from there, and you'll have my experience. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub
ColdCutz Frigonometry 43	Posted - 2012.12.09 19:22:00 - [85] - Quote Anybody able to capture 1920x1200 in close to lossless quality yet? I still haven't figured it out. I don't think CamStudio can do it.
Armand Rousseau Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 0	Posted - 2012.12.09 20:15:00 - [86] - Quote Asking EVE players to make this the most interesting day in EVE ever. ...Yeah, no way that could go wrong.
Risingson 27	Posted - 2012.12.09 22:29:00 - [87] - Quote CCP Phantom wrote: this incredible opportunity in CCP t0rfifrans' devblog here. Trojan !? downloaded the Debut Video Capture Software mentioned in the blog. AVG anti-virus told me the file is infected. Eveeye.com Bordcomputer Systems

CCP t0rfifrans C C P C C P Alliance 655	Posted - 2012.12.10 01:20:00 - [88] - Quote Hey everyone, I'd like to extend our deepest thanks to all those that took part in today's capture. There are already lots of cool videos that have been uploaded to the CCP Archivist mailbox. Tonight, three of us from CCP roamed around in cloaked ships and recorded some amazing fights and views around the universe. There are probably more people yet to upload their submissions, but from what we have so far, it's been great. Thanks for your help to capture this moment!

Arkady Vachon Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 88	Posted - 2012.12.10 01:53:00 - [89] - Quote I sent in one just, but did not realize to turn the game sound off. do I need to go out and record it again, or is it automatic disqualifying as a contribution if the game music was on Nothing Personal - Just Business... Chaos Creates Content
Arkady Vachon Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 88	Posted - 2012.12.10 02:07:00 - [90] - Quote If no one else has, someone needs to road trip out to the EVE Gate - I did but dunna bout the quality, since this is one of the most important places in the canon history of the game (IMO) Nothing Personal - Just Business... Chaos Creates Content
Mallak Azaria GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1373	Posted - 2012.12.10 02:38:00 - [91] - Quote Arkady Vachon wrote: If no one else has, someone needs to road trip out to the EVE Gate Multiple people do this on a daily basis/ It's about time CCP stops catering to the lazy players with this sense of entitlement for fear of losing money. These aren't the people making the game better, these are the people wanting you to turn EVE in to a game that is like most other MMO's.
Ronny Hugo Dark Fusion Industries Limitless Inc. 0	Posted - 2012.12.10 03:01:00 - [92] - Quote A short dialog proposal (Parentheses explain what is on the video at the time): --- There's dozens of ships (view of ships shown 1 by 1 in hangar, only a fraction of a second to view each one) There's countless millions of ways to fit a ship (stops on one ship, opens fitting, countless different fits flash by) to counter every possible tactic you may come across (a few quick examples of tactics, webbing, jump drive hot-drop, fighters, cruisers, carriers etc) but Sun Tzu says "reinforce everywhere, and you will everywhere be weak" (Sun Tzu in different voice)(perhaps zoom in on a fitting that improves all four resistances), so you must chose to be weak in some ways to be strong in others (resistances when you just improve one or two of them). Trade, for some a way to sustain themselves, for others, a game to pass the time (you can find something I'm sure). Make heavy profits by buying everything of something in a region, then sell it as the prices go up, and laugh while others loose it all because they believed they could make money off the short increase in prices. Stockpile goods and start a war to increase the market for your goods. Or stop a war someone else started to sell their goods and get it all at bargain prices. The price history in EVE Online is like cave-paintings, saying "Here I had some fun, and there my rivals were eaten by bears". --- Dialog suggestion ended. Just my two cents. I find EVE Online exactly like art actually. Its as if we painted everything we do in real life (there's statistics on a whole other level than in real world, like descriptions of what happened). Just one of the videos about how the map has changed during the years due to conflict is like a series of paintings, describing one view of things, one perspective. Imagine how many who quit Eve Online to never come back in all those wars, and imagine how many who were inspired to continue on, even through every single war. Its frankly, weird Eve Online haven't gotten the status of art before.
MotherMoon Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 1186	Posted - 2012.12.10 04:11:00 - [93] - Quote CCP t0rfifrans wrote: Hey everyone, I'd like to extend our deepest thanks to all those that took part in today's capture. There are already lots of cool videos that have been uploaded to the CCP Archivist mailbox. Tonight, three of us from CCP roamed around in cloaked ships and recorded some amazing fights and views around the universe. There are probably more people yet to upload their submissions, but from what we have so far, it's been great. Thanks for your help to capture this moment! How late do we have to submit? sorry i took footage but it's late I want sleeeeeep http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg
Nitrous Nine The Nine Inc. 2	Posted - 2012.12.10 05:43:00 - [94] - Quote I started recording my submission Dec 9 at 11:30pm Eastern US time, but was already Dec 10th EVE time, will my submission still be accepted? Thank you!
Tristam Xavier Ded End Damage Inc. United Sytems Against Terrorist Opperations 0	Posted - 2012.12.11 08:29:00 - [95] - Quote Hey, I am working through about 3 hours of footage on top of working around getting my 16:10 ratio display and recording dimensions to look best in 16:9 Youtube video. Anyway, I'm just wondering what sort of Deadline we are looking at for this as their is simply a lot of meticulous editing I must attend to along with simply time consuming processor rendering in order for this presentation to be the best it can be.
Tristam Xavier Ded End Damage Inc. United Sytems Against Terrorist Opperations 0	Posted - 2012.12.11 08:47:00 - [96] - Quote ... or, you know, just to throw this idea out there... Now that everyone has Fraps installed and knows how to produce videos/has had practice with the new tracking camera in-game, you guys could make next Sunday the big day and you will get even better footage.

CCP Archivist C C P C C P Alliance 0	Posted - 2012.12.11 09:57:00 - [97] - Quote MotherMoon wrote: CCP t0rfifrans wrote: Hey everyone, I'd like to extend our deepest thanks to all those that took part in today's capture. There are already lots of cool videos that have been uploaded to the CCP Archivist mailbox. Tonight, three of us from CCP roamed around in cloaked ships and recorded some amazing fights and views around the universe. There are probably more people yet to upload their submissions, but from what we have so far, it's been great. Thanks for your help to capture this moment! How late do we have to submit? sorry i took footage but it's late I want sleeeeeep Dec 31st

PseudoSarge Horizons Unlimited LLC S2N Citizens 0	Posted - 2013.03.08 13:13:00 - [98] - Quote Can we see the finished video somewhere online?
Gheyna Hoover Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore 82	Posted - 2013.04.27 18:06:00 - [99] - Quote Do we get to see which videos that made it?

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