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baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.08 07:33:00 -
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This topic confirms that a good bulk of mission runners are just as terrible at adapting as miners. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.08 08:03:00 -
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Emeric Jadgoth wrote: Then you're lucky. A lot of us are getting our drones killed before they can do any significant damage to circling frigates.
How? Are you just launching them and ignoring them untill they start to explode or something because that is the only way I can see this happening. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.08 10:05:00 -
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Mokanor Lenak wrote:
Or the guristas constant ECM lock on some missions or sites (if you are not a FoF missile lover, which isn't perfect either).
ECCM or a sensor backup array. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.08 10:09:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:
Not to mention, again, the four new skills for countering ewar.
Knew I forgot to do something last night. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.09 13:36:00 -
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Jawas wrote:baltec1 wrote:Mokanor Lenak wrote:
Or the guristas constant ECM lock on some missions or sites (if you are not a FoF missile lover, which isn't perfect either).
ECCM or a sensor backup array. Great... Tell me, how many mid slots do you have on your ship? Armor tankers may benefit from this if they can do without cap boosters but shield tankers definitely need those mids.
Sensor backup arrays use a low slot. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.09 18:37:00 -
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Frater Scrapheap wrote:A game and game mechanics should provide at least a little bit fun. I have 9 million Skillpoints in Drones and now i have to deal not only with a crappy drone interface, but with crappy game mechanics as well. I am not amused. And the reason why? Because some dudes did afk missions? *deep sigh* I have less drone skills than you and I am doing just fine. Methinks the issue lies between the chair and keyboard. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.09 23:14:00 -
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Pretty GuyYeah wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Silath Slyver Silverpine wrote: I'm wondering WTF all these people who are "Doing just fine." are doing, exactly.
Check their posting histories. It's always the same people, from major 0.0 alliances, puffing their elite chests, constantly demanding nerfs on hi sec, suicide ganking miners and freighters, telling *the others* to STFU and adapt (yet they will never STFU and adapt to their lands). Not a bit of empathy or comprehension expecially for those not following their forcibly canned, strong armed ways. Basically you probably have an experience of meeting such kind of arrogant and overbearing people a bit everywhere. And you despise them. In EvE they are a consistent number. They could politely point you at a resource telling you how to deal with the new challenge but no, they prefer to point and laugh at you. They want to make you feel bad. They enjoy it, it makes them feel good. Don't feel bad, because you are a nice and coy person, they are the humanity's bad examples. +1 + they have enough SP to not care about the changes, some of us dont' Its funny because I literally just said I have less SP in drones.
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baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.09 23:20:00 -
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Admiral Rufus wrote: I don't mission a lot, but when i do i want it to be irritation free, now it isn't.
And this right here is what people are whining about. CCP have turned off easy mode slightly and they are not at all happy about it! |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.09 23:43:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:baltec1 wrote:Admiral Rufus wrote: I don't mission a lot, but when i do i want it to be irritation free, now it isn't.
And this right here is what people are whining about. CCP have turned off easy mode slightly and they are not at all happy about it! Next patch, complete nerf to titan bridges! Means nothing to me. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.10 12:25:00 -
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Xenos van Omega wrote:Hey folks there is hope! I just found the solution for scramming frigs if you are in a bs. Fit a micro jump drive! Then just jump 100km away from scram and when the frigs income again snipe them out :))
Like all other advive this will be ignored by the irritated masses. |
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baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.10 13:13:00 -
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Deja Blue wrote:
Unlike real life, we can leave whenever we want and let you have your paradise. Be careful what you wish for.
So in conclution your tldr is...
"CCP make missions so easy I can AFK them again." |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.10 13:20:00 -
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Morrigan LeSante wrote:baltec1 wrote:Xenos van Omega wrote:Hey folks there is hope! I just found the solution for scramming frigs if you are in a bs. Fit a micro jump drive! Then just jump 100km away from scram and when the frigs income again snipe them out :)) Like all other advive this will be ignored by the irritated masses. Failed to acquire lock because the target is at 103584m and your maximum targeting range is 14346m. Then, when they close again, you have a 3 minute lock time. A BARGE can cover 14km in 3 minutes. Do the assault, vs serpentis. Post the hilarity. Would love to see a tank that can last against 30-40 blaster boats at point blank range long enough to even kill the frigs when you can't use drones.
What kind of battleship are you using that only has a range of 14km and a lock time greater than a titan? |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.10 13:25:00 -
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Morrigan LeSante wrote:
Full room aggro vs damp spam.
Do you even know what NPC EWAR is or feels like since this patch?
Because stuff doesnt lose target lock when you warp... |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.10 18:06:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Morrigan LeSante wrote:
Full room aggro vs damp spam.
Do you even know what NPC EWAR is or feels like since this patch?
Do you even know what PvP EWAR is or feels like since this patch? Want me to show you? because in PVP you always engage when you "1 vs many" or "small fleet vs lots" And you think you should shred your way through entire npc fleets with no effort?
Many other people have adapted to these changes, if you cant then bring a friend on the missions you cant figure out. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.10 18:18:00 -
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Quote: Waiting on that fit/video.....
Everything you've suggested is poor theroycraft, which to anyone who has actually experienced it, knows to be false.
I had adapated, I didn't say I could do it - what I said was the required mechanics to actually do that mission are a) not fun, b) contrieved and c) a very bad side effect of otherwise managable AI changes.
As I say, I await an actual example of your adaptive brilliance....I won't hold my breath, however, because we all know it isn't coming.
Edit: Your posts have a very strong ring of Mary Antoinette about them.
And your sound like the whines from miners about tanking their ships. Very well for damps use a blaster boat. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.10 18:30:00 -
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Morrigan LeSante wrote:Please address the request for a boat capable of tanking serpentis at <15km. Note that'll be at LEAST 30 blaster boats you'll be needing to tank combined with a ~3 minute lock time on the frigs.
Go on, it'll be fun to see the fail you manage :D
Edit: Or better still, stop commenting in the AI feedback thread when it is obvious you've not experienced it in
What a shock, yet another bear dismissing advice without even trying it and then insulting the person trying to help them. Also what the hell have you done yo your ship to get the locking time of a titan? |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.10 18:53:00 -
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Once again, a perfect post showing you've NEVER engaged serp. rats.
Bravo, bravo.
Had a nightmare for them. Used to wipe out everything bc and below in a single volly. So with that in mind and your refusal to use blasters go for a tachyon mare, fit a micro jump drive and use the range advantage to volly the offending cruisers and frigates.
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baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.10 19:03:00 -
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Morrigan LeSante wrote:baltec1 wrote:Quote:
Once again, a perfect post showing you've NEVER engaged serp. rats.
Bravo, bravo.
Had a nightmare for them. Used to wipe out everything bc and below in a single volly. So with that in mind and your refusal to use blasters go for a tachyon mare, fit a micro jump drive and use the range advantage to volly the offending cruisers and frigates. Yes, that was before the AI changes. Before full room aggro on warp in. Before 8-10 ships damp you constantly. That is the point, the side effect of the AI change has been to put NPC EWAR on steroids, when coupled with full room aggro at warp in, it is disproportionately silly. Previously you had specific groups and sporadic damping. Oh you had access to the micro jump drive before retribution?
Well if you dont want to use that tactic either then you can go for a close range pulse nightmare with extra tracking. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.10 19:50:00 -
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I dont think a NM can soak the pain required to face them point blank. I cant fly it, but the incoming DPS is pretty special, tore strips off my SNI previously and that has a rather good tank indeed.
@Remiel Pollard Comparing PvE to PvP is simply ridiculous and I shant address it further with you. I was also unaware the blobbing and gate camps are the new yardstick for 'hard mode' thanks for clearing that up.
Well theres a blaster protius. Smaller sig, faster, great damage and can tank. Slap on an afterburner and you shouldn't have too many issues. Or go vindicator and just nuke everything. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.10 21:23:00 -
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Jame Jarl Retief wrote:baltec1 wrote:Well theres a blaster protius. Smaller sig, faster, great damage and can tank. Slap on an afterburner and you shouldn't have too many issues. Or go vindicator and just nuke everything. Yeah, because everyone can easily afford multi-billion ISK ships, and has skills needed to make use of them (like Vindi). How about you try doing L4s with imperfect (seriously imperfect, bordering on weak) skills and using a T1 battleship. Especially a T1 Gallente battleship (which limits your choice to Mega, Domi and Hype). What's that? Adapt by cross-training for another 2 months? Yeah, I'll get right on that, says the new player clicking "unsubscribe" button. I do use a hyperion. |
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baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.10 22:06:00 -
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Jame Jarl wrote: So? Do like the lady asks, and post a video of you soloing that Serpentis mission, today, in your Hyperion. We'd all love to see it. And remember to use your moderate-low SP character, not one with perfect Vs across the board.
Actually, you know what, forget it. I found the ignore button.
Yep ignore anyone who disagrees with you and posts answers to problems you face.
For the people who are willing to learn I would also advise a blaster rokh or a auto maelstrom. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.11 03:10:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:You are just discarding potential solutions without even trying them. DPS is pointless if you can't hit anything, right? What about the alpha? And you really think they're bugs? I suppose it is a common excuse used by people who fail at games: "well obviously the game's bugged if I can't do it."
Derp.
I see you're still bounty-free, Mund. Have 10 mil on me for being no different from anyone else complaining-instead-of-doing. Welcome to miners 11 months ago. Makes me wonder how hard these people would cry if we ever decided to run a gank campain on them. I am ever more tempted to go number crunching to see if we could turn a profit on mission boats. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.11 03:52:00 -
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Mund Richard wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Lol, I left Austrollia because I got a better offer. Waiting for it to process at the moment. Now I know what your problem is, though - you like to jump to conclusions before you've established the facts. Just like declaring "it won't work" before you've even tried it. I'm glad we both agree that you are a troll. About declaring "it won't work"... You didn't constructively reply to my ECM comment, here's a more in depth commentery on why SeBos won't reliably work all the time (ignoring the fact of how many slots it costs): I have a screenshot, on which my Domi has a locking range of ~9km, and a sensor resolution of 12mn (just for comparison, a Ragnarok Titan has 50 before skills, and gets it up to 62, which is over 5 times as much...). Fitting one range-scripted SeBo, I'd get something like 15km, and with another one 23km, but still keep the 12mn resolution (lock time of well over a minute on frigates if I recall correctly). ... There were less than half of the dampening cruisers (all the same name) applying their damps to me at the screenshot's taking... I hastily jump to conclusions saying it wouldn't work. Please prove me wrong with a video made after the change, with one toon not in fleet, and no player on grid, with circumstances like the one I described. Oh, and it should be a fit that still makes sense as opposed to running level 3 missions with a hilariously overganked ASB Hurricane or Oracle or the like. Use blasters. A protus will most likely be ideal. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.11 04:20:00 -
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New players shouldnt be trying to do lvl 4s and getting into a t3 is as long as getting into a battleship. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.11 08:25:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:I have yet to see a fit from any of these pros that find the new AI so easy.
Already gave you plenty of ships, its up to you to fit them correctly. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.11 08:39:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Of course you have. Like I said, your words are meaningless.
You like to grief as much on these forums as you like to grief in Uedama.
You have some evidence of griefing going on in Uedama? |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.12 10:10:00 -
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Twopah wrote:CCP simply didn't think this one through.
Or maby, just maby, they did think it through and decided that these missions were far too easy and the reason they arnt answering your crying foul is because they intended this to happen. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.12 10:38:00 -
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Manes Avatarr wrote: Or maybe CCP wanted to enhance difficulty for L4s in general but came up with just screwing Gallente only? As Minmatar i really dont care, every frig just dies quickly to my rusty guns. And i can just skip these assigments when i land in center of a Serpentis' party which are unplayable for any faction. But dude... have some empathy. Chars based on drone skills have really hard time with these changes.
Only the ones who rely upon battleclinic for the shipfits. I have already given few ships in this thread that are able to do these missions, but just like when I pointed out that exhumers could fit a tank to miners, I only end up getting insulted and the advise ignored.
The simple truth of high sec bears is that they refuse to adapt in any way to changes. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.12 18:56:00 -
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The comment before the goon spin doctor, murdered it.
It's like second nature to you, isn't it Baltec?
I do have an ability to condence someones argument into a few words so we dont have massive walls of quotes. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.13 05:34:00 -
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I think someone just tried to insult me for my drone sp before going on a rant about how they cant stop their drone from dying while mine are still alive and well... |
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baltec1
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Posted - 2012.12.13 08:00:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Didn't you read? Fit some 220mm cannons on your titan and you are set
People did this |
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