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Maximus Reborn Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.12.06 07:16:00 - [1] - Quote Like subject says.... I did missions all yesterday and today and yes I lost probably about 10 more drones then a usual day.... But I think I finished some missions faster as the whole room agroed me and they all started coming closer. So to all those people bitching... man up and adapt to the game and how it is evolving.. or stop doing missions.
Kiteo Hatto Equanimity Order 319	Posted - 2012.12.06 07:48:00 - [2] - Quote Did you do them in a turret ship ? Did you do them vs sansha/angels ? Did you do the WC,Assault, Blockade against the above factions in a TURRET ship ? Did you do it in an overtanked deadspace fit rattlesnake ? Im talking about killing everything for bounties/salvage/loot Tengu doesn't count Blitzing doesn't count Most missions are still doable but WC, blockade and assault are just too risky for the payout. Im sorry but WC pocket 2 sansha were breaking my paladin's cap stable core x-type tank with 1540 rep. I also have marauders at 5 and 12.2m gunnery SP..... I couldn't even hold the tank in the angel room with my vargur that boosts ~1500/4s I had to sacrifice 2 sets of hobgoblins and warp out twice just trying to do WC WHICH was very doable(if you manage your triggers) in a t1 apoc/maelstrom. People in t1 battleships are NOT going to even survive on warp in. So please, since you are so amazing at doing missions now, share your tips. "That's okay it annoys me when people pile on new definitions to the word sandbox every time CCP does something they don't like." - Alara IonStorm GD is where 60% of threads make you dumber and 10% which provide you with entertainment, the remaining 30% is a mix of both.
Paikis Vapour Holdings 304	Posted - 2012.12.06 08:05:00 - [3] - Quote Kiteo Hatto wrote: So please, since you are so amazing at doing missions now, share your tips. Stop being bad.
Sammybear Awakened Brotherhood The Brotherhood Alliance 1	Posted - 2012.12.06 09:33:00 - [4] - Quote WC angel/sansha almost popped my mach. Whole room aggro on warp in is... a bit scary lol I think I have a fix worked out for WC, but I quit it, so I have to wait on it to be offered again
Alayna Le'line Battery Acid Skinny Dippers 32	Posted - 2012.12.06 09:42:00 - [5] - Quote Maximus Reborn wrote: Like subject says.... I did missions all yesterday and today and yes I lost probably about 10 more drones then a usual day.... But I think I finished some missions faster as the whole room agroed me and they all started coming closer. So to all those people bitching... man up and adapt to the game and how it is evolving.. or stop doing missions. You managed to lose drones with the previous AI? Really? As for the room aggro, try a proper hard mission with ~60 or so ships in a room, we'll see if you still like all of them coming at you at once then :P Anyway, yeah the new AI can be rather easily lived with from my personal testing. But I still don't see what the point was of adding the extra drone management chore, once the "new" wears off missions will be just as boring as before and slightly more tedious which sounds like a net loss to me.
Kiteo Hatto Equanimity Order 321	Posted - 2012.12.06 09:48:00 - [6] - Quote Paikis wrote: Kiteo Hatto wrote: So please, since you are so amazing at doing missions now, share your tips. Stop being bad. Hey, give/show some tips/facts rather than talking ** and being unhelpful. "That's okay it annoys me when people pile on new definitions to the word sandbox every time CCP does something they don't like." - Alara IonStorm GD is where 60% of threads make you dumber and 10% which provide you with entertainment, the remaining 30% is a mix of both.**
Daniel Plain Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 476	Posted - 2012.12.06 09:50:00 - [7] - Quote Paikis wrote: Kiteo Hatto wrote: So please, since you are so amazing at doing missions now, share your tips. Stop being bad. this. "I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF
Verity Sovereign Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 247	Posted - 2012.12.06 11:28:00 - [8] - Quote I wonder how the microjump drive will factor in.. activate gate... align away, try to jump, hope you get jumped before you get scrammed... snipe away.
goldiiee Tax and War Haven 89	Posted - 2012.12.06 13:27:00 - [9] - Quote Concerning GÇÿWorlds CollideGÇÖ: Granted I use a Mach with an MWD, XL Booster, Auto Targeting sys, and ACGÇÖs. In both the second and last room as soon as I land I turn the ship around and head up at about 45degrees MWD on and run for 3 cycles, Yes the frigs lock me but by the time they get a lock I am 25 km from them, locking up 10 targets (all of them frigs) makes the rest easy, kill all frigs kill all cruisers and BSGÇÖs as they close range. Use the MWD to pulse myself out of their range or back into my range. Yes the sansha spie webs you but the mwd powers through and breaks free at 10km. Reason and logic never wins over Stubborn and Convinced-á (But-áI still try..)
Anneliese Pollard University of Caille Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2012.12.06 14:16:00 - [10] - Quote I haven't lost a single drone in 2 nights of solid missioning. People were bitching about the AI, so I posted what's working for me. Then they started bitching about the help.

Angelofdeath728 The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.12.06 16:09:00 - [11] - Quote I will be glad to hear the help and suggestion i have a hard time to deal with this new AI
Vixorz Cabronazos 20	Posted - 2012.12.06 16:41:00 - [12] - Quote I did a blockade yesterday, against angels, with a normal dominix, using heavies up close (to test this AI aggro thingy) and sentries only for ships that were far. Apart from the fact that my domi is fitted for gank more than tank, which made me jump out and back in three times, mission was easy. Target Painter is your friend people.
Maximus Reborn Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.12.06 17:16:00 - [13] - Quote You guys are running either **** dps/tank/ ect if you cant handle the missions. i use dual box 2 4 year old toons. Yes I have some leetsauce gear but like I said there was no change at all for me. I fly the "Mission King" and no that isnt a tengu... If you think for a second a tengu is boss.. there is your problem... People the game evolves that is such an awesome feature. No it isnt always better for the player but sometimes it is. I do not blitz.... I want bounties and LP, salvage is a waste of time. Look bottom line is this.. Same ** happened when incursions came out, as well as sleepers.. people bitched and cried and said they were to hard but you know what people learned to adapt and fight them.. So quit your bitching.
Jenn aSide STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries 519	Posted - 2012.12.06 17:46:00 - [14] - Quote Maximus Reborn wrote: You guys are running either **** dps/tank/ ect if you cant handle the missions. i use dual box 2 4 year old toons. Yes I have some leetsauce gear but like I said there was no change at all for me. I fly the "Mission King" and no that isnt a tengu... If you think for a second a tengu is boss.. there is your problem... People the game evolves that is such an awesome feature. No it isnt always better for the player but sometimes it is. I do not blitz.... I want bounties and LP, salvage is a waste of time. Look bottom line is this.. Same ** happened when incursions came out, as well as sleepers.. people bitched and cried and said they were to hard but you know what people learned to adapt and fight them.. So quit your bitching. This is not the same thing. Incursions and Wormholes were meant to be that way, missions and complexes weren't They should have remade the missions and complexes 1st then did this. It's not game ending, but it's a lot of aggravation for nothing. also highlighted something you aren't taking into consideration. Dual boxing helps keep aggro off drones because you have to ships to present threats. Most people don't dual box. CCP Gargant:-á this game requires a certain amount of simply going out there and chatting with people. You will get scammed, destroyed, cheated, trolled, and blown up but that is just a part of the essence of this game. -á
starbelt stacy Project-Gonk 25	Posted - 2012.12.06 17:48:00 - [15] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: Maximus Reborn wrote: You guys are running either **** dps/tank/ ect if you cant handle the missions. i use dual box 2 4 year old toons. Yes I have some leetsauce gear but like I said there was no change at all for me. I fly the "Mission King" and no that isnt a tengu... If you think for a second a tengu is boss.. there is your problem... People the game evolves that is such an awesome feature. No it isnt always better for the player but sometimes it is. I do not blitz.... I want bounties and LP, salvage is a waste of time. Look bottom line is this.. Same ** happened when incursions came out, as well as sleepers.. people bitched and cried and said they were to hard but you know what people learned to adapt and fight them.. So quit your bitching. This is not the same thing. Incursions and Wormholes were meant to be that way, missions and complexes weren't They should have remade the missions and complexes 1st then did this. It's not game ending, but it's a lot of aggravation for nothing. Maximus ---- so why not tell us what ship you were using and fittings / tactics? cos right now all i have to say is ...... Cool Story Bro!!! Sack the dumb mofo who decided to nerf level 4's? .... again!!!
Maximus Reborn Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.12.06 17:50:00 - [16] - Quote starbelt stacy wrote: Jenn aSide wrote: Maximus Reborn wrote: You guys are running either **** dps/tank/ ect if you cant handle the missions. i use dual box 2 4 year old toons. Yes I have some leetsauce gear but like I said there was no change at all for me. I fly the "Mission King" and no that isnt a tengu... If you think for a second a tengu is boss.. there is your problem... People the game evolves that is such an awesome feature. No it isnt always better for the player but sometimes it is. I do not blitz.... I want bounties and LP, salvage is a waste of time. Look bottom line is this.. Same ** happened when incursions came out, as well as sleepers.. people bitched and cried and said they were to hard but you know what people learned to adapt and fight them.. So quit your bitching. This is not the same thing. Incursions and Wormholes were meant to be that way, missions and complexes weren't They should have remade the missions and complexes 1st then did this. It's not game ending, but it's a lot of aggravation for nothing. Maximus ---- so why not tell us what ship you were using and fittings / tactics? cos right now all i have to say is ...... Cool Story Bro!!! Are we bros... you even lift? Like I am gonna help anyone out I dont know. Do I look like a charity to you ..... I just want the bitching to stop because you sound like a bunch of women.
Jenn aSide STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries 519	Posted - 2012.12.06 18:01:00 - [17] - Quote Maximus Reborn wrote: starbelt stacy wrote: Jenn aSide wrote: Maximus Reborn wrote: You guys are running either **** dps/tank/ ect if you cant handle the missions. i use dual box 2 4 year old toons. Yes I have some leetsauce gear but like I said there was no change at all for me. I fly the "Mission King" and no that isnt a tengu... If you think for a second a tengu is boss.. there is your problem... People the game evolves that is such an awesome feature. No it isnt always better for the player but sometimes it is. I do not blitz.... I want bounties and LP, salvage is a waste of time. Look bottom line is this.. Same ** happened when incursions came out, as well as sleepers.. people bitched and cried and said they were to hard but you know what people learned to adapt and fight them.. So quit your bitching. This is not the same thing. Incursions and Wormholes were meant to be that way, missions and complexes weren't They should have remade the missions and complexes 1st then did this. It's not game ending, but it's a lot of aggravation for nothing. Maximus ---- so why not tell us what ship you were using and fittings / tactics? cos right now all i have to say is ...... Cool Story Bro!!! Are we bros... you even lift? Like I am gonna help anyone out I dont know. Do I look like a charity to you ..... I just want the bitching to stop because you sound like a bunch of women. Dude, look at my avatar, i am a bunch of women. CCP Gargant:-á this game requires a certain amount of simply going out there and chatting with people. You will get scammed, destroyed, cheated, trolled, and blown up but that is just a part of the essence of this game. -á
Caitlyn Tufy Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact 48	Posted - 2012.12.06 18:29:00 - [18] - Quote Alayna Le'line wrote: You managed to lose drones with the previous AI? Really? I lost like 20 last saturday, kept forgetting them behind :p Note to self: don't use a drone boat if you're half asleep :D
goldiiee Tax and War Haven 89	Posted - 2012.12.06 18:38:00 - [19] - Quote For the sake of sanity: train, buy or steal one of these: Using a cross of Deadspace/Faction fitted Machariel, using 800 autocannons mostly, but arties when I can (I like to see them go BOOM) XL-shield booster and boost amplifier and an MWD ALWAYS. (So I to set the range I engage). Split guns to pop all the frigs on the field in under 12 seconds (3 cycles of the autos). Regroup guns and take out anything that is left, starting with closest first. No really a GÇÿtrickGÇÖ to it, actually it is the same way I have been doing missions all along. If you looking for a cap stable boat, this is not it. Tengu cannot even begin to compare, with falloff at 70km and optimal at 3km nothing in locking range will survive. (Switch to barrage if I really need range) Drones are good, I really like the new salvage drones, it allows me to do something while I slow boat to the next gate, giving me time to let the cap recharge. Mission Mach Tank 900 (1200 with a little heat) or tank 1200 (2000 with heat) in the right clone. DPS 1332 or 900 with ranged ammo Speed 1400 m/s If you want the exact fit I can post that but figured the short and simple was better. (and I didnt want to hear all the trolls from the fitting police) Reason and logic never wins over Stubborn and Convinced-á (But-áI still try..)
Inkarr Hashur Ministry of War Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2012.12.06 19:08:00 - [20] - Quote Guys Guys listen to- Guys you need- Guys. Listen. You need to have a machariel to run missions.

Rengerel en Distel Amarr Science and Industry 576	Posted - 2012.12.06 19:32:00 - [21] - Quote I would like people to stop posting telling people to stop crying about the new AI. A bit on topic, but it's not just the drone AI, it's the AI in general. Full room aggro is a verified bug, not a feature of the AI change.
Melina Lin Universal Frog 60	Posted - 2012.12.06 19:43:00 - [22] - Quote Start crying about the old drone UI!
hehehehehe Chancel Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2012.12.06 20:03:00 - [23] - Quote Maximus Reborn wrote: Like subject says.... I did missions all yesterday and today and yes I lost probably about 10 more drones then a usual day.... But I think I finished some missions faster as the whole room agroed me and they all started coming closer. So to all those people bitching... man up and adapt to the game and how it is evolving.. or stop doing missions. Stop crying about people crying.
hehehehehe Chancel Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2012.12.06 20:10:00 - [24] - Quote Maximus Reborn wrote: starbelt stacy wrote: Jenn aSide wrote: Maximus Reborn wrote: You guys are running either **** dps/tank/ ect if you cant handle the missions. i use dual box 2 4 year old toons. Yes I have some leetsauce gear but like I said there was no change at all for me. I fly the "Mission King" and no that isnt a tengu... If you think for a second a tengu is boss.. there is your problem... People the game evolves that is such an awesome feature. No it isnt always better for the player but sometimes it is. I do not blitz.... I want bounties and LP, salvage is a waste of time. Look bottom line is this.. Same ** happened when incursions came out, as well as sleepers.. people bitched and cried and said they were to hard but you know what people learned to adapt and fight them.. So quit your bitching. This is not the same thing. Incursions and Wormholes were meant to be that way, missions and complexes weren't They should have remade the missions and complexes 1st then did this. It's not game ending, but it's a lot of aggravation for nothing. Maximus ---- so why not tell us what ship you were using and fittings / tactics? cos right now all i have to say is ...... Cool Story Bro!!! Are we bros... you even lift? Like I am gonna help anyone out I dont know. Do I look like a charity to you ..... I just want the bitching to stop because you sound like a bunch of women. LOL such a tuffguy. By the looks of it, you failed pretty hard at makeing it stop.
Anneliese Pollard University of Caille Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2012.12.06 20:10:00 - [25] - Quote Full room aggro is allowing me to simplify my mission running. I welcome any additional challenges CCP wants to send me.
Vas Eldryn Flying While Intoxicated Apocalypse Now. 0	Posted - 2012.12.06 20:34:00 - [26] - Quote Maximus Reborn wrote: Like subject says.... I did missions all yesterday and today and yes I lost probably about 10 more drones then a usual day.... But I think I finished some missions faster as the whole room agroed me and they all started coming closer. So to all those people bitching... man up and adapt to the game and how it is evolving.. or stop doing missions. why even start this thread, i mean whats it going to acomplish? I mean we have all been told you're an ace pilot.... mainly by you, but thats what we are told.
Inkarr Hashur Ministry of War Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2012.12.06 20:45:00 - [27] - Quote Vas Eldryn wrote: Maximus Reborn wrote: Like subject says.... I did missions all yesterday and today and yes I lost probably about 10 more drones then a usual day.... But I think I finished some missions faster as the whole room agroed me and they all started coming closer. So to all those people bitching... man up and adapt to the game and how it is evolving.. or stop doing missions. why even start this thread, i mean whats it going to acomplish? I mean we have all been told you're an ace pilot.... mainly by you, but thats what we are told. All you gotta do is put up your B ISK for your Mach and you can be badass too, blitzing those missions for 5M and some LP each!
Coyote Reach State Protectorate Caldari State 3	Posted - 2012.12.07 02:53:00 - [28] - Quote Used target painter running V's Worked one mission( i was only on field for 4 minutes) Did Wrath of angels , painted a bs, deployed fighters. 2 firbolgs died before i could even lock them. Third made it into bay in structure. Will wait to hear more protips as my experiment was a bit more expensive than a couple t2 drones.
inutile Saucisse et biere 0	Posted - 2012.12.07 16:29:00 - [29] - Quote All dual/triple boxing missions runners should know the fastest way to get money is to aggro all so i'll put that 'bug' on the + side. To bad for you solo missions runners.. don't cry too loud, it'S a confirmed bug and CCP WILL correct it. Also, me never ever go AFK while missioning so sleepers like AI is another +. Raping those AFK'er... Make me smile! :) Drones? I run the hardest lvl missions (understand LVL5) and guess what? my sentry got aggro only a few times for the past 2 billions income (not kidding, specific missions can make you billionnaire very quickly). Must admit i didn't try lights drones (cuz sentry delivered!). NPC frig target lights so use heavy drone (with drone tracking module to speed up the process) to kill frigs. So, after minor ajustments i resume pumping the isk almost at the same rate. Oh and tech3 ships (Proteus for me) with its buffed ability to remote rep, attack and tank simultaneous is a winnner with the new AI! My 2 cents
Liandri Jenquai State War Academy Caldari State 7	Posted - 2012.12.07 17:41:00 - [30] - Quote Maximus Reborn wrote: starbelt stacy wrote: Jenn aSide wrote: Maximus Reborn wrote: You guys are running either **** dps/tank/ ect if you cant handle the missions. i use dual box 2 4 year old toons. Yes I have some leetsauce gear but like I said there was no change at all for me. I fly the "Mission King" and no that isnt a tengu... If you think for a second a tengu is boss.. there is your problem... People the game evolves that is such an awesome feature. No it isnt always better for the player but sometimes it is. I do not blitz.... I want bounties and LP, salvage is a waste of time. Look bottom line is this.. Same ** happened when incursions came out, as well as sleepers.. people bitched and cried and said they were to hard but you know what people learned to adapt and fight them.. So quit your bitching. This is not the same thing. Incursions and Wormholes were meant to be that way, missions and complexes weren't They should have remade the missions and complexes 1st then did this. It's not game ending, but it's a lot of aggravation for nothing. Maximus ---- so why not tell us what ship you were using and fittings / tactics? cos right now all i have to say is ...... Cool Story Bro!!! Are we bros... you even lift? Like I am gonna help anyone out I dont know. Do I look like a charity to you ..... I just want the bitching to stop because you sound like a bunch of women. Not reading posts bitching about drones sounds really hard for you. Stop acting like a woman by going and looking for drama.



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