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Tobiaz
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Posted - 2005.05.10 22:52:00 -
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 Originally by: piercer
I bought an enyo and fitted it with blasters for a small group frigate PvP. (i dont like rails atm)
The ion blasters work amazingly well with antimatter and the rocket launcher makes it a good fight against missile ships.
In the group i had (1x enyo, 2x thrashers) we took out a caracal solo and a rupture without losing any ships.
With blasters, using defenders is pretty useless IMHO. Only at the approach you'll take out some of the missiles after that they all just hit.
I think a good Enyo pilot can take out two normal cruiser pilots solo (unless they are fitted with nosses).
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velox
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Posted - 2005.05.10 23:00:00 -
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Shelaria my corp mate and I recently treated ourselves to one of each. So far we have had so much fun in the enyo's that the ishkurs are getting dusty in the corp hanger.
We are setup to fight as a team, Shel uses rails with antimatter and is equipped with a webber and my choice is Modal Ions and Neutrons with antimatter. We have defenders and Piranahs on board.
Thought we would test it out in a level 3 dungeon and it was to easy so then we tried a Phi Serp level 4 dungeon. On our second attempt the cream was webbing the Serp BS me orbitting at 1000mtrs total earnings where about 3-4 million each. we went back 3 hours later and did it again.
Shelaria Enyo - Loadout 1
HI - 125mm Prototype I Gauss Gun
HI - 125mm Compressed Coil Gun I
HI - 125mm Compressed Coil Gun I
HI - 125mm Compressed Coil Gun I
HI - Upgraded 'Limos' Standard Missile Bay
MED - Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
MED - X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
LOW - Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
LOW - Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
LOW - Capacitor Power Relay I
LOW - Small Armour Regenerator II
Velox Enyo - Loadout 1
HI - Modal Light Ion Particle Accelerator I
HI - Modal Light Ion Particle Accelerator I
HI - Modal Light Ion Particle Accelerator I
HI - Modal Light Ion Particle Accelerator I
HI - Upgraded 'Limos' Standard Missile Bay
MED - Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
MED - Small Shield Recharger II
LOW - Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
LOW - Capacitor Power Relay I
LOW - Capacitor Power Relay I
LOW - Small Armour Regenerator II
We are still playing with the setups but its definately one tough little support vessel. If you could get 4 to 5 of these together fronting for a EW platform or two the results would be devastating.
I will train the assault frigate skill next to increase the iskurs drone allowance and will then start the experiments again.
I love my enyo though.... its a keeper.
Velox
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DARTHxFREE
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Posted - 2005.05.10 23:36:00 -
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Light drones damage is poodoo,
my 8 wariors against armor was about the same damage as a nuet with AM, at the most
1 extra blaster with no cap usage,..PG or CPU,?
drones are a deterant to frigs....but im for the Ish'kur for the 3 med slots only
For missions
2 blasters 2 nos and drones 2 T2 shield boosters 3 PDU's
3 blasters 2 nos 2 T2 armor repairs
kinda add's up to the same for me
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kessah
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Posted - 2005.05.11 00:27:00 -
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Enyo - ishkur sucks imho - the drones are useless agaisnt AF's and the nos set-up is a joke. if u need to get away ur never guna have time to recall ur drones which is a bummer when ur out in the field.
Enyo is my baby i solo excellent with it, you dont need to tank it anymore than it is neither do u need to waste your mids with scramblers etc make it for ganking or like me fit it for hit and run. very very nice ship, so nice to fit.
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Cupdeez
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Posted - 2005.05.12 19:16:00 -
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i can't beleave you guys put blasters on the enyo.. and i can't beleave you use 125mm guns... I'm going to cry wow...
I setup my ishkur like a ceptor but with 150mm t2 guns and put a remote amor repair turnedd off in the 4th high slot
enyo i use 4(150mm) t2 guns with 1 named launcher mid slots = web and (tracking cpu) low i tank her..
took out 3 ceptors and 1 rifter with her with no problems.. cruiser are also pretty easy but you have to watch out for amor tanked NOSing cruisers.. no cap and your dead.
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Cupdeez
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Posted - 2005.05.12 19:18:00 -
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o'yah for the people that say 150mm t2 guns can't track.. its prob because you lack the skill.. I have no problem hitting a ceptor orbiting me at 15km with a mwd on..
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Kiiith
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Posted - 2005.05.12 19:45:00 -
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when would a ceptor orbit at 15km?? i though ceptors were only useful once they get really close? i would have though they would be **** at that range?
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Maverick McDougel
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Posted - 2005.05.12 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Kiiith
when would a ceptor orbit at 15km??
any decent crow pilot who uses missiles and not rockets
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kessah
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Posted - 2005.05.13 00:10:00 -
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not a bad set-up cup but rather slow with that set-up might aswell use a thorax\rupture or a maller set-up for anti-frig.
they need speed.
The "enyo" is a piece of art. Greatest AF out there when set-up correctly.
GL with ur's tho.
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Slithereen
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Posted - 2005.05.13 02:58:00 -
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I'll probably end up getting both assault frigs. The Enyo looks good too. It's just that I'm not too fond of the rather high market prices for it and the fact that it has only 2 midslots.
Here is a simple piece of advice. You don't just train a skill to buy "A" ship.
Make the time and money worth spending.
Buy both ships and try them out.
The Enyo and the Ishkur have a different character; one is a gang baster and the other is drone master.
I put this philosophy into practice. Yesterday I bought myself a Deimos and an Ishtar in anticipation when my Gallente Cruiser L5 will be finished in a day or two.
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Akaviri
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Posted - 2005.05.13 04:53:00 -
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Originally by: Slithereen
Here is a simple piece of advice. You don't just train a skill to buy "A" ship.
I already bought both, and both gallente interceptors. I had inty and assault skill trained up before I decided what race frig to train to lvl 5. I trained up that skill based on both the two assault ships and the two intys that would become available to me. I didn't think, "Oooh, the Ishkur looks kewl, I'm gonna train up to get that ship!" I can see how my last post might have seemed that way though. 
They seem to both have their pros and cons. I'll have to pvp a bit with them before I form a solid opinion of both.
Anyway, to Sangxiac. I was thinking of running 1 gun, 1 small neut, and 2 small nos. I start the neut first, followed by the 2 small nosses. Once his cap is gone, I turn off the neut. I'll just have to try this out and see how it works. You're right about the dmg being kinda low though.
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Alex Harumichi
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Posted - 2005.05.13 09:19:00 -
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I have and fly both. The Enyo is a keeper, I use a fairly standard 4 x 125mm II, rocket launcher, 1mn AB II setup, works like a charm - though only combat tested in PVE so far. Can solo 1mil battleships, haven't tried anything bigger yet.
The Ishkur is a bit more problematic, I've tried it as a rail platform but the Enyo is just so much better at that, especially since it gets a tracking bonus and the Ishkur does not. Seems that blasters would work better, and I've had some good results there... though missile spammers are always a problem. 9 light drones rock, though... I should get around to training Assaults V to get the full 10.
One question: do you guys use MWDs on these ships? In PvP a blaster boat without an MWD would probably be too slow to be useful (?), but on the other hand the MWD gimps both grid and cap in a nasty way. Opinions?
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DARTHxFREE
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Posted - 2005.05.13 12:57:00 -
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Conclusion:
Bye them both,
have a hanger full of module's, you will never stick with the same
>:-E3 !!!rrraY I'm an anti pirate,...life's the wrong way round. |
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