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WhiteTiger
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Posted - 2005.05.12 22:25:00 -
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What is your goal in playing the game? You really need to answer this before you decide if it better or worse.
There might not have been advanced learning skills, battleships, etc. however this was the same for everyone. Much of this new stuff is just makes the new player feel like they are farther behind, training learning skills for weeks just so you can learn faster isn't really most people's idea of fun. The skill training system pretty much guarentees an old player will always have more skills than a new player and this will bother some players.
If you mostly are interested in how large of a number you can get in your wallet or how many ships you have in your hanger then it is most certainly easier now.
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2005.05.12 22:28:00 -
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Was this supposed to be a reply to another thread?
Anyways, my goal is to have fun. when I stop having fun, I stop playing. Pretty simple, really.
www.hadean.org
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.05.12 23:28:00 -
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Can we nip this umpteenth new player/old player equal opportunity thing in the bud this time ?
One thread a week on it is quite enough. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

qapchure
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Posted - 2005.05.12 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: Gungankllr Was this supposed to be a reply to another thread?
Anyways, my goal is to have fun. when I stop having fun, I stop playing. Pretty simple, really.
yup.....that about says it all.
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2005.05.12 23:41:00 -
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have fun and try to excel in numerous areas of the game.
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Ben Derindar
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Posted - 2005.05.13 00:27:00 -
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Older players are always leaving, while new players are always joining. The sooner new players realise this and learn to focus more on developing themselves and worry less about what others around them might be doing, the better.
Anyone who understands that Eve is a long term game will understand the value of training their learning skills early in their career. For people who want it all and want it now, fire up Doom and see how long you can play with IDKFA enabled before it gets boring for you (so I couldn't think of a more modern example, sue me ).
Many older players these days will describe how they miss that feeling of wonder and awe at the universe when they undocked for the first time. In Eve, the thrill is in the journey itself just as much as in reaching its end. So sit back and enjoy the ride. 
/Ben
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Jann Kilik
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Posted - 2005.05.13 01:08:00 -
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I play for fun. It doesn't bother me that there are players out there who have more SP or Isk than me, it doesn't bother me that I can never catch up to them; it just gives me something to aspire to :)
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WhiteTiger
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Posted - 2005.05.13 03:11:00 -
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yeah, I hit the wrong button should have been a reply to this thread..
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=180705
However the general idea holds for many other threads as well. This game is constantly changing, often with much whining on both sides of any change. I think deciding what really are good changes or bad changes really requires you need to figure out why you even play in the first place.
Fun might be the #1 reason, but what is fun? Gatecamping? NPC hunting? Collecting rare items? P.v.P? Mining? Having a big wallet? Having lots of tech2 bpos? Trying to find out what is and isn't an exploit by pushing game mechanics to the limits? Interaction with other players.. trying to manage large organization or trying to infilatrate as a spy? Being the best in some area, i.e. best raven pilot, best pirate, best fleet commander?
I think there is wide range of opinions on what is fun and as a result the devs have a very hard job in keeping most the players happy, or at least somewhat pacified.
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Foomanshoe
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Posted - 2005.05.13 04:30:00 -
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I always wanted to take over a moon. _______________________________________________
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Graelyn
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Posted - 2005.05.13 05:43:00 -
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RP in an MMO.
As hard as it is in EVE to ever do anything RP-related, it's 10x harder in any other MMO currently out there.
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Maestra Jsun
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Posted - 2005.05.13 05:52:00 -
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my goal is to not spend $60 a month on a PS2 game that I will beat in 3 days. ________________________________________________ 0.0 Come fly with us... |

AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.05.13 06:13:00 -
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Global EVE Domination.
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2005.05.13 06:16:00 -
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Own system of my own. _______________________________________________ My opinions aren't my corporations opinions.
(\_/) (x.x) This is what's left of Bunny, the rest tasted delicious. |

Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.05.13 06:23:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade Global EVE Domination.
I'll take galactic for $100, please.
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RatBoy Deblade
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Posted - 2005.05.13 06:35:00 -
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I play to have fun to. The day the game become a work i quit.
Long live the golden ratio 
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The Talon
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Posted - 2005.05.13 06:50:00 -
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Ummmm I say YES! it needs to be done
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Typherin laidai
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Posted - 2005.05.13 07:15:00 -
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Rule the universe 
Failing that ... Im going to camp a solitary system in Xetic space... never leave and claim thats its mine (No seriously )
Typherin LaiDai Typherin LaiDai Care Negotitations Expert level 5
'Give me a position of power and I'l abuse it in an instant' |

Dorga Khab
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Posted - 2005.05.13 08:25:00 -
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to be very very ebil     
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Banisher
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Posted - 2005.05.13 09:38:00 -
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Experience as many aspects of eve as I can and become self sufficient.
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Verone
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Posted - 2005.05.13 09:40:00 -
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To be the most feared and yet still, the most loveable pirate in the whole of EVE.
Looks like i've got a long way to go   
COME AND SOCIALISE WITH US NASTY SNIGG BASTARDS AT : WWW.SNIGG.CJB.NET |

Loka
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Posted - 2005.05.13 09:41:00 -
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If EVE would have a goal, you could achieve it, you would then get bored and move to another game.
EVE is endless, which makes it kinda addictive. Also the content is dictated and created by the community not CCP, which gives you endless options to influence it. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Typherin laidai
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Posted - 2005.05.13 09:46:00 -
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Originally by: Loka If EVE would have a goal, you could achieve it, you would then get bored and move to another game.
EVE is endless, which makes it kinda addictive. Also the content is dictated and created by the community not CCP, which gives you endless options to influence it.
Yeah which all goes to poo...
*Enter the Carebear influence* 
Typherin Typherin LaiDai Care Negotitations Expert level 5
'Give me a position of power and I'l abuse it in an instant' |

Seleene
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Posted - 2005.05.13 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Loka If EVE would have a goal, you could achieve it, you would then get bored and move to another game.
EVE is endless, which makes it kinda addictive. Also the content is dictated and created by the community not CCP, which gives you endless options to influence it.
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.05.13 10:20:00 -
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Freedom of my people, death to all slavers!
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"Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." - Unknown Warrior
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2005.05.13 10:58:00 -
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Obtain 1 unit of:
Lianhaun's Frozen Corpse
And then laugh.
Other than that, just shoot people 
Oh I guess my biggest goal atm would be logging in for longer periods than 5 minutes Sass Arcane Technologies |

Fester Addams
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Posted - 2005.05.13 11:05:00 -
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waste RL time in an imaginary Sci-Fi world in wich I have fun.
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Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2005.05.13 11:31:00 -
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I pay to play Eve, to have fun. Not to sit at a belt for hours on end so somebody else can get a BS. I fiddle with alot of things do some research, and some manufactureing. I do some missions I do have tree level four agets all at 10+, but I dont use them. I perfer takeing my BC or BS on a level three, depending on what they are of course. My goal is to have fun. When the fun ends so does this 2year old account.
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter,pirate[/i] or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box and from this site.
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Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2005.05.13 11:32:00 -
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PSSST...but my real goal is to collect moderator corpse...do they ever come out to play?
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter,pirate[/i] or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box and from this site.
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Epictetus
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Posted - 2005.05.13 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Graelyn RP in an MMO.
As hard as it is in EVE to ever do anything RP-related, it's 10x harder in any other MMO currently out there.
indeed.
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Lythius Arcturnus
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Posted - 2005.05.13 11:43:00 -
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To actually learn enough so I stop getting blown up constantly.
For example, I actually took some iniative and put some ECM target scramblers on my hauler the other day.
I came across 2 gate campers at a gate in 0.0, they both target me, I lock on and click the jammer, and some window pops up talking about me commiting a criminal act by jamming them. At this moment it was jam or be killed so I clicked yes.
The other guy proceeds to start shooting. I make it to the gate alive, and click jump, but some window pops up saying something about not letting me jump cause im a criminal or something, and before I could finish reading it I was dead =/
I take 1 step forward and 2 steps back =/
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Gile Freelancer
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Posted - 2005.05.13 11:52:00 -
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To blow people who dont join me up! 
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Synex
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Posted - 2005.05.13 14:05:00 -
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To keep on loggin in and training skills until they add something exciting enough for me to leave the station.
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Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2005.05.13 14:21:00 -
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I'm not a powergamer so don't really 'grind' for ISK and skills.
My goals are to have fun, plain and simple. That means *mainly* killing other players.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak. |

Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2005.05.13 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Graelyn RP in an MMO.
As hard as it is in EVE to ever do anything RP-related, it's 10x harder in any other MMO currently out there.
I find it easy to roleplay in Eve.
'lock' 'open fire' 'pick up corpse'. There you go, roleplayed an assassin.
or a pirate?
'lock' 'open fire' 'pick up cargo'
What exactly is hard about 'roleplay' in Eve? I can understand the difficulty in other games as they are more limiting in what you can do but Eve gives you the freedom to be what you want to be without having to force 'roleplay' in its traditional sense.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak. |

Baron Makiason
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Posted - 2005.05.13 14:48:00 -
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To be the best Frig Pirate Pilot EVER!
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Loka
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Posted - 2005.05.13 14:48:00 -
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Edited by: Loka on 13/05/2005 14:48:03
Originally by: Lythius Arcturnus To actually learn enough so I stop getting blown up constantly.
For example, I actually took some iniative and put some ECM target scramblers on my hauler the other day.
I came across 2 gate campers at a gate in 0.0, they both target me, I lock on and click the jammer, and some window pops up talking about me commiting a criminal act by jamming them. At this moment it was jam or be killed so I clicked yes.
The other guy proceeds to start shooting. I make it to the gate alive, and click jump, but some window pops up saying something about not letting me jump cause im a criminal or something, and before I could finish reading it I was dead =/
I take 1 step forward and 2 steps back =/
Believe me, not only newcomer make mistakes, also old more "expirienced" player, playing for almost 2 years now.
For example yesterday i had a Claw vs my Taranis encounter. Me fitted with rails he and had autocannons fitted. Well after few tactical warps, he had me at good distance to initiate a fight (5km). He webbed me and i warp scrambled him. But at this distances his autocannons were supirior than my rails were.
End of story i died. A few hours later i surfed in the Itemdatabase and look again at the Claw. I mean common i know this ship, but forgot that this ship only has 2 med slots. MWD + Webber, so who could he scramble me. Well he didnt, i just didnt tried to warp, because i was used, that anyone will have fitted a scrambler.
Know your enemy as good as you know yourself. I learned something new, even when iam one of the older player. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Cloned Mark
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Posted - 2005.05.13 14:53:00 -
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My short term aim to to amass a personal forune of 1 billion isk.
Once that target is achieved, I'll think of something else and aim to get it done. ----------------------------- Latrodectus hesperus
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Dred 'Morte
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Posted - 2005.05.13 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Maestra Jsun my goal is to not spend $60 a month on a PS2 game that I will beat in 3 days.
/mai' nada! 
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Kazim
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Posted - 2005.05.13 15:11:00 -
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My goal?
Hopefully to find a girl and fall in love, what more could a man ask for.
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Gerome Doutrande
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Posted - 2005.05.13 15:44:00 -
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execute the masterplan. 
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Corvus Dove
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Posted - 2005.05.13 15:59:00 -
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Grief 
Sorry, I get accused of it so much I just had to say it. "You Griefer!!!" = "You Doodyhead!!!" |

Val Amon
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Posted - 2005.05.13 16:06:00 -
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My goal is to solo a 7/10 angel complex. _ _ How many pilots does it take to wire a Flux Capacitor? 3, 1 to wire it and 2 to talk about how the old one was better. |

Winterblink
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Posted - 2005.05.13 16:47:00 -
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Edited by: Winterblink on 13/05/2005 16:47:06
Originally by: Rod Blaine Can we nip this umpteenth new player/old player equal opportunity thing in the bud this time ?
One thread a week on it is quite enough.
You said it. What people seem to forget is that new players to the game have better opportunity for faster training times than we vets did when the game started out. Implants, advanced training skills, etc.
I mean for frack's sake, how hard is to understand that eve is not a powerleveller's game?
___winterblink/warp_drive_active/eve_nature_vraie// |

qapchure
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Posted - 2005.05.13 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Jann Kilik I play for fun. It doesn't bother me that there are players out there who have more SP or Isk than me, it doesn't bother me that I can never catch up to them; it just gives me something to aspire to :)
older better players **** me off, they should all quit so i can be the ultimate character
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Ronin Woman
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Posted - 2005.05.13 17:25:00 -
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I just play it to unwind after work by doing whatever strikes my fancy at the moment.
Seeking more powerfull ships is purely in self defense Honestly, I Come In Peace  |

Joe
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Posted - 2005.05.13 17:42:00 -
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My only goal atm is to have a Jumpdrive, a ship to put it on, and a nice (jove) system to chill in.
Taranis WholeSale Deals. |

Bubbles Throatslitter
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Posted - 2005.05.13 19:55:00 -
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I don't even understand the old vs new player arguement. You players that have been here longer should have a better character than I do. You've invested more time and money than I have building your character up and deserve to have an advantage over me. I have 600k or 700k skill points and will always be behind the people here before me. So what?
Anyway - I've been here about a month and am having a great time. Met some great people, been podded a few times, mined, traded, NPC hunted, etc.
My short term goal is to get better at configuring combat ships with equipment.
My long term goal is to become the Beloved Self-Appointed Dictator for Life of the Universe.
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fuze
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Posted - 2005.05.14 11:55:00 -
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To kill all jovians since they are the true threat of the Eve universe. They are the degenerated leftovers of some long lost race gone totally awry and need to be whiped from existance. ___________________________ Favorite bumpersticker of the month: My head hurts! |

SlaneeshZ
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Posted - 2005.05.14 12:20:00 -
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My goal is to undock from RL. ---- A true player does feel no need to remind himself or fellow players that it is just a game. |

Galk
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Posted - 2005.05.14 12:21:00 -
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One day....
Well i live in hope that maybe democracy might finaly come of age in the gallente federation, and they elect a common man for president.
May that person be 'me' ------------------------
---- Little wonder why people were, what this person was telling my friends: http://galk.50megs.com/logs/ |

Jacques Archambault
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Posted - 2005.05.14 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: Roshan longshot PSSST...but my real goal is to collect moderator corpse...do they ever come out to play?
Good luck trying that. 
PS: how much would you be willing to offer? 
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Deepeh
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Posted - 2005.05.14 12:27:00 -
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My first goal was to be an ³ber miner.
Now I'm a pirate.
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MOS DEF
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Posted - 2005.05.14 13:04:00 -
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World domination errr i mean galaxy domination of course Pinky!
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Vegeta
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Posted - 2005.05.14 13:18:00 -
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Being at the top of the food chain.
Smaller goals come and go.
2005.04.25 16:40:42 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes LawrenceNewton [WARAG], wrecking for 2706.9 damage.
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Reiisha
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Posted - 2005.05.15 12:24:00 -
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Being able to fly each and every ship in EVE.
So far i got gal frig, cruiser, bs and indy on 5, aswell as all other frigs, and i ahve all skills except mining barge and transport ships. Currently on the way to a 17xlvl 5 in the spaceship command skillgroup.
Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming! |

Byron5184
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Posted - 2005.05.15 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: Gungankllr
Anyways, my goal is to have fun. when I stop having fun, I stop playing. Pretty simple, really.
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Originally by: Viceroy Its about the simple fact that agents are s****y grinding timesinks
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Claude Leon
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Posted - 2005.05.15 23:26:00 -
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I want to spread the ideals of the Federation all across EVE. ===================================================
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Van Cleef
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Posted - 2005.05.15 23:42:00 -
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Originally by: WhiteTiger yeah, I hit the wrong button should have been a reply to this thread..
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=180705
However the general idea holds for many other threads as well. This game is constantly changing, often with much whining on both sides of any change. I think deciding what really are good changes or bad changes really requires you need to figure out why you even play in the first place.
Fun might be the #1 reason, but what is fun? ....
The same thing that I find fun, someone else will not. That is what Eve is, a lot of games together as one where you make of it what you will. If you want the game to give you something "fun" to do, then you are a better candiate for the scripted games that make you follow a path. ------------------------------------------------ Serve the State Join Channel CAINCOM |

Proteuz
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Posted - 2005.05.16 00:34:00 -
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shoot stuff
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Aitrus
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Posted - 2005.05.16 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: WhiteTiger The skill training system pretty much guarentees an old player will always have more skills than a new player and this will bother some players.
Skill points != Skill
Skill > Skill Points
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VonKaplanek III
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Posted - 2005.05.16 01:11:00 -
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To have FUN while trying to sustain a corp in 0.0 with a close knit group, mixed with all forms of players. Looks liek its working quite well 
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Carter83
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Posted - 2005.05.16 01:18:00 -
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NPC hunting Collecting rare items P.v.P Having a big wallet being top of the food chain would be nice
P.V.P is a long way off, but travelling to the edges of eve seems like a plan. So if anyone in the coming months or years reads this post (if it aint been deleted) and does the same exact thing as im preparing myself for, just dont be surprised to see a can with "Carter Woz Ere First" logo 
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Judas Kirk
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Posted - 2005.05.16 02:45:00 -
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To re-open the EVE gate, and bring a fleet through it to old Earth.
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Kydor
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Posted - 2005.05.16 07:56:00 -
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My goal ingame is to, OWN/KILL a TITAN, if not on my own, only with my most trusted friends. If there are any troubles or questions please let us know. We will do our best to resolve any issues and promise not to place a curse on you or send trolls to eat your children!
2005.05.15 23:44: |

Zezman
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Posted - 2005.05.16 08:12:00 -
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To win!
(»)(») À\Oo/ À=\/= This is Rat. It is a vermin. It has eaten all of Bunny's lettuce. |
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