You should be asking for 5 turret slots and 5 high slots

All of this is true. And yet it was still one of the best mining ships right up until you had a Hulk.

For comparison, using only T2 modules...



This fit will mine 1284m3 per minute without any boosting and has 107,734 EHP. This is effectively 5 times the tank of a Mackinaw, but it has less yield. You just have to pay attention and dump to a can (a lot) more often. Also it just looks cool seeing 8 lasers coming off a Rokh!

Max yield comparison (m3/minute, no boosts, no implants, all Vs):
Venture: 823
Rokh: 1284
Retriever: 1405
Covetor: 1716
Mackinaw: 1718
Hulk: 1937

Because balance is not something that is important. Also, you have never mined gas in a wormhole, because if you had, you would know that you can't cloak anywhere NEAR a gas cloud.

Are you suggesting that running 5 Gas harvesters on a ship is in any way unbalanced? Even if bonuses increased the performance by 25% at Mining Frigate 5, this is still balanced. A 100% bonus at level 5 would still be balanced, because for mining it would still be far below the mining barge performance and for gas, most gases are worth very little to start and the null sec gases carry the high risk/danger.

Also, I have mined gas everywhere. Just because the 0m radius of the cloud is very large doesn't mean that you actually have to be in the cloud. GCH (Gas Cloud Harvester) II has a range of 1500m, so pick a spot near that range. When cloaking is desired, a short burn past 2000m renders the ship cloakable. A GCH range increase ship bonus would certainly play better into that role, though.

5 gas harvesters is not imbalanced, a lot of ships do this already. 5 gas harvesters with a bonus like the Venture's is imbalanced. If the Venture was able to fit 5 Gas Harvester IIs in addition to keeping its current bonuses, it would have the equivalent of 13 or so harvesters, which is almost 3 times as effective as anything else in the game.

Are you not okay with that? Or is gas harvesting serious business that you need variety within?

I'm not OK with gross imbalance. I also make a fair bit of ISK from harvesting gas, and I don't particularly want to crash the market.

OP... the Venture gets a 100% bonus to mining lasers... that means it technically has 4!

You can stop complaining now.

The IQ of this discussion just dropped to the floor with that last post. Me thinks that to you, Shah, OP means "does more than you think it should," and complaining means "suggesting something different." Let's raise the IQ of this discussion back to normal with standards-based reasons why you feel a certain way. Just because a ship has the equivalent of 4 when previously 5 have been easily used does not mean OP. Even if the bonuses made it equivalent to 15 does not make it inherently OP because it may be that 15 (or some number several times bigger than 5) works well for a specialized ship filling a void in the current game structure. So, Shah, re-read the previous discussion and think about the points a little before posting emotion-saturated non-sense.

The Venture has 5.33 effective gas harvesters, not 4. This is already the most effective gas mining ship in the game, and it is only a frigate. Combined with its other bonuses, I'd almost say the Venture is too good currently, and you people want to make it better?