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Paige Kjz
Mine Corp
0
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Posted - 2013.01.09 13:12:00 -
[181] - Quote
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:I have been contacted by the OP yesterday.
At this point - business started too long ago - and for how this whole matter has gone (a bit south) I can only check that actual trading and PI taxes transactions occurred within the API time and number constraints.
If this is enough, please all the parties involved post here about you being OK.
Moreover, I read a claim for a 5B scam. I am willing to check out objective, API verifiable transactions about that (given a temporal reference and sent names of the characters involved) and create an anonymized report about what I've found.
I have no interest in an audit.
Personally think it is a waste of time for everyone involved, but if it needs to be done, so be it. |
Every One
Big Diggers
C0NVICTED
76
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Posted - 2013.01.09 13:19:00 -
[182] - Quote
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:I have been contacted by the OP yesterday.
What does "OP" mean? If you're gonna write a wall of text at least don't use uncommon (for me at least) abbreviations. Your goal is to write as many long words as possible.
Thank you
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Emma d'Acques
Vault Asset Management
21
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Posted - 2013.01.09 13:32:00 -
[183] - Quote
Every One wrote:
What does "OP" mean? If you're gonna write a wall of text at least don't use uncommon (for me at least) abbreviations. Your goal is to write as many long words as possible.
Thank you
Original Poster: The person that created the thread.
I'm not totally useless, I can be used as a bad example. |
Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Alzhara Industries
Beacon Light Alliance
81
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Posted - 2013.01.10 01:24:00 -
[184] - Quote
Announcement: Account Closure
Investor: Emma d'Acques
Type of Investment: Private
Date of Account Closure: 8 JAN 2013
Date of Return/Interest Payments: 8 JAN 2013
Value of Investment: 100M
Account Balance: 102,333,333.00 ISK
Type of Account: Class I/A
Interest Rate: 5%
Interest Return Every 30 Days: 2,333,333 ISK
Screen Capture of ISK Transfer to Emma d'Acques:
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg46/jvlampen/Eve%20Investment%20Records%20-%20Lampen/EmmadAcquesAccountClosure_zps711b554b.png
Due to the request for emergency/early release of funds the account has been automatically had its interest rate reduced to 5%. Accrued interest and initial deposit has been returned to the investor. Thank you for investing with Vaughn Lampen Investments and we look forward to working with you in the future. |
Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Alzhara Industries
Beacon Light Alliance
81
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Posted - 2013.01.13 18:03:00 -
[185] - Quote
Investor and Prospective Investor Update - 13 JAN 2013
Market Operations
Direct Return on Investment of Selected Commodities
Primary Investments - High Priority - High Volume
Commodity #1: 12.76%
Commodity #2: 12.73%
Commodity #3: 19.55%
Commodity #4: 8.06%
Commodity #5: 12.53%
Commodity #6: 10.83%
Commodity #7: 19.70%
Commodity #8: 4.37%
Commodity #9: 16.23%
Commodity #10: 20.57%
Commodity #11: 9.12%
Commodity #12: 9.42%
Commodity #13: 12.45%
Commodity #14: 14.49%
Commodity #15: 17.42%
Commodity #16: 9.28%
Commodity #17: 11.38%
Commodity #18: 14.56%
Commodity #19: 9.11%
Commodity #20: 13.23%
Commodity #21: 10.12%
Commodity #22: 15.31%
Commodity #23: 15.65%
Commodity #24: 11.12%
Secondary Investments - Low Priority - Low Volume
Commodity #25: 2.90%
Commodity #26: 3.92%
Commodity #27: 1.93%
Commodity #28: 4.53%
Commodity #29: 8.97%
Commodity #30: 9.81%
Commodity #31: 1.19%
Commodity #32: 2.57%
Commodity #33: 3.58%
Commodity #34: 3.93%
Commodity #35: 2.53%
Commodity #36: 2.68%
Commodity #37: 1.25%
Commodity #38: 4.21%
Current Market Buy Order Value: 62.52B
Little has changed in my daily market operations since my last update. There have been fluctuations here and there but most markets have remained stable. I've had somewhat of a time crunch in real-life affairs so there's been little time to research possible areas for expansion into new areas.
Mining Operations
Ice mining operations have been slightly under their standard quota for the week but nothing that can't be compensated for during the upcoming week. Approximately 5,311 blocks of ice were harvested which is 88.22% of my weekly quota. The was only 709 blocks and as I have a four day weekend coming up they'll be ample time to compensate for the shortfall.
Planetary Interaction Network
My Planetary Interaction Network is currently undergoing a massive overhaul. As stated in earlier posts I have been prioritizing training of elite PI skills for my characters to increase overall efficiency and reduce time required managing the network on a weekly basis. At the moment the network is being reorganized to produce P4 commodities and once all characters are done training I will be able to produce all commodities currently available in the game. For now I can efficiently product all but one of them at a rate of 12 units per day for each commodity. The only one that isn't being produced at the moment are Self-Harmonizing Power Cores. I will be working on the network this week and examining its efficiency before posting detailed profit projections. At the moment though I estimate roughly a 12-14% increase in monthly profits with this change at current prices. I will also use some of the parts to produce POCO and POS packages as I expand my manufacturing business.
Manufacturing
Manufacturing continues to be a low priority but 200k worth of Caldari Fuel Blocks are due to come off the assembly line today.
Reactions
Along with my Planetary Interaction Network my POS Reaction Network is undergoing reorganization. One tower is currently active and generating 455,040,000M ISK per month. Others will be returned to operation as time allows.
Other News:
In a recent discussion with Locin WeEda I was given the chance to ask for my courier statistics with Red Frog Freight, VLI's primary logistics partner. He was able to pull my data from his yearly audit and the following was reported to me:
Name: Joshua Vaughn Lampen
# Contracts: 65
Total Rewards: 175,150,000.00
Total Volume 55,428,413.49 m3
Name: XXXXXX XXXXXX XXXXXX
# Contracts: 474
Total Rewards: 1,218,100,000.00
Total Volume 402,970,722.52 m3
My trader alt is also ranked as #10 in terms of number of contracts sent for the year of 2012. We'll be shooting for #1 this year now that VLI is active and I can operate in more regions.
- Lampen |
Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Alzhara Industries
Beacon Light Alliance
81
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Posted - 2013.01.13 18:29:00 -
[186] - Quote
Announcement - VLI Investors Interest Payment
Investors: Every One, Keaton DuCasse, Razor Rocker, Zaquaz, Ronix Aideron
Date of Investment: 14 DEC, 16 DEC, 16 DEC, 16 DEC, 16 DEC
Date of Return: 13 JAN
Value of Investment: 5.00B / 4.00B / 3.00B / 1.00B / 100M
Interest Earned: 350M / 280M / 210M / 70M / 7M
Account Balance: 5.00B / 4.00B / 3.00B / 1.00B / 100M
Screen Capture of ISK Transfer to Investors:
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg46/jvlampen/Eve%20Investment%20Records%20-%20Lampen/MorePayments_zpsbfb0917d.png
Thank you for your continued investment in Vaughn Lampen Investments.
I've also invoked my reserved right to pay interest early as its a Sunday and more conveinent for me.  |
Keaton DuCasse
KdC Enterprise
15
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Posted - 2013.01.13 21:13:00 -
[187] - Quote
Interest received.
GÿàGÿàGÿà retired-á GÿàGÿàGÿà |
Every One
Big Diggers
C0NVICTED
76
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Posted - 2013.01.13 21:57:00 -
[188] - Quote
Keaton DuCasse wrote:Interest received.
Interesting......
Same. |
Yvormessier
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.01.13 22:38:00 -
[189] - Quote
when somebody spends this amount of time producing reports etc he sure as hell isn't earning isk by trading manufacturing etc.
he's earning his isk by pulling in ever more investors till its time to pull the plug |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
305
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Posted - 2013.01.13 22:44:00 -
[190] - Quote
Yvormessier wrote:when somebody spends this amount of time producing reports etc he sure as hell isn't earning isk by trading manufacturing etc.
he's earning his isk by pulling in ever more investors till its time to pull the plug
Agreed; and well-said. |
Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Alzhara Industries
Beacon Light Alliance
81
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Posted - 2013.01.13 23:01:00 -
[191] - Quote
Yvormessier wrote:when somebody spends this amount of time producing reports etc he sure as hell isn't earning isk by trading manufacturing etc.
he's earning his isk by pulling in ever more investors till its time to pull the plug
Implying trading and writing simultaneously is hard... |
Gilbert Intaki
Empire Tax Revenue Service
34
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Posted - 2013.01.13 23:38:00 -
[192] - Quote
Ponzi...... written all over it.
Still - good luck with that  |
clamslayer
White Collar Cartel
54
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Posted - 2013.01.14 00:03:00 -
[193] - Quote
Ponzi scheme scammer indeed. Glad to see more players calling him out since I have been too busy. |
Debra Tao
Perkone
Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2013.01.14 12:51:00 -
[194] - Quote
What Ponzi scheme ??? Hell no he is obviously legit when he says he is mining 8 hours a day each day... plus PI, report, market and so on |
clamslayer
White Collar Cartel
54
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Posted - 2013.01.14 19:18:00 -
[195] - Quote
Debra Tao wrote:What Ponzi scheme ??? Hell no he is obviously legit when he says he is mining 8 hours a day each day... plus PI, report, market and so on
He can be doing all of the above, and still be running a ponzi scheme. The only way that he can prove he isnt a scammer is by offering full collateral for invested isk. That isnt going to happen, what is going to happen is he is going to run with your isk debra once the overall pile is beg enough.
Eve history has shown this again and again. |
Yvormessier
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.01.14 20:06:00 -
[196] - Quote
clamslayer wrote:Debra Tao wrote:What Ponzi scheme ??? Hell no he is obviously legit when he says he is mining 8 hours a day each day... plus PI, report, market and so on He can be doing all of the above, and still be running a ponzi scheme. The only way that he can prove he isnt a scammer is by offering full collateral for invested isk. That isnt going to happen, what is going to happen is he is going to run with your isk debra, once the overall pile is big enough. Eve history has shown this again and again, there hasnt been an exception and it isnt going to be Josh.
Irony is obviously lost on you
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Debra Tao
Perkone
Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2013.01.14 21:20:00 -
[197] - Quote
clamslayer wrote:Debra Tao wrote:What Ponzi scheme ??? Hell no he is obviously legit when he says he is mining 8 hours a day each day... plus PI, report, market and so on He can be doing all of the above, and still be running a ponzi scheme. The only way that he can prove he isnt a scammer is by offering full collateral for invested isk. That isnt going to happen, what is going to happen is he is going to run with your isk debra, once the overall pile is big enough. Until he runs, he will continue to pay monthly interest to investors with their invested principle, ponzi scam. Eve history has shown this again and again. there hasnt been an exception, and it isnt going to be Josh.
look at my post on page 2... |
clamslayer
White Collar Cartel
54
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Posted - 2013.01.14 21:34:00 -
[198] - Quote
Debra Tao wrote:clamslayer wrote:Debra Tao wrote:What Ponzi scheme ??? Hell no he is obviously legit when he says he is mining 8 hours a day each day... plus PI, report, market and so on He can be doing all of the above, and still be running a ponzi scheme. The only way that he can prove he isnt a scammer is by offering full collateral for invested isk. That isnt going to happen, what is going to happen is he is going to run with your isk debra, once the overall pile is big enough. Until he runs, he will continue to pay monthly interest to investors with their invested principle, ponzi scam. Eve history has shown this again and again. there hasnt been an exception, and it isnt going to be Josh. look at my post on page 2...
No and I'm not going to. Unless it mentions you recieving collateral for your isk it means nothing to me. |
Every One
Big Diggers
C0NVICTED
76
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Posted - 2013.01.14 22:04:00 -
[199] - Quote
Greetings
I don't want this to sound wrong or anything, it has nothing to do with the guys spamming scam all over the place.
So, I would like some sort of API to check the sums that flood your wallet. I don't want any materials, character names, nufin, nor do I need to see player donations.
Just the sums.
Think you can provide that to me? As I trusted you with my money you could trust me with total confidentiality from my part. Divulging information? Ain't nobody got time for that!
Thanks. |
Debra Tao
Perkone
Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2013.01.14 22:11:00 -
[200] - Quote
clamslayer wrote:Debra Tao wrote:clamslayer wrote:Debra Tao wrote:What Ponzi scheme ??? Hell no he is obviously legit when he says he is mining 8 hours a day each day... plus PI, report, market and so on He can be doing all of the above, and still be running a ponzi scheme. The only way that he can prove he isnt a scammer is by offering full collateral for invested isk. That isnt going to happen, what is going to happen is he is going to run with your isk debra, once the overall pile is big enough. Until he runs, he will continue to pay monthly interest to investors with their invested principle, ponzi scam. Eve history has shown this again and again. there hasnt been an exception, and it isnt going to be Josh. look at my post on page 2... No and I'm not going to. Unless it mentions you recieving collateral for your isk it means nothing to me.
I actually try to demonstrate that this is a scam and why it is oh so suspicious. |
Every One
Big Diggers
C0NVICTED
76
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Posted - 2013.01.14 22:13:00 -
[201] - Quote
Debra Tao wrote:
I actually try to demonstrate that this is a scam and why it is oh so suspicious.
Hmm
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Fractal Muse
Dead's Prostitutes
Test Friends Please Ignore
202
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Posted - 2013.01.14 22:20:00 -
[202] - Quote
Debra Tao wrote:
I actually try to demonstrate that this is a scam and why it is oh so suspicious.
To me it's mostly suspicious because of the 'lock-in' periods for the 'investments.'
The moment an 'investment' has any kind of 'incentive' or penalty to remain invested for more than a month and reoccurring then that screams ponzi scheme.
The extra complexity to how this 'investment' vehicle is set up and how it presents itself is almost a perfect example of ponzi scheme.
Now, does that mean that this -is- one? No, it doesn't it just really looks like one, acts like one, and reads like one but it might not be one.
For people who are investing they are deciding if the risk is worth it. Clearly, to them, it is worth the risk of losing everything.
A good ponzi scheme will run for months to build up a good reputation and a lot of investments before it pulls the plug.
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clamslayer
White Collar Cartel
57
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Posted - 2013.01.15 00:15:00 -
[203] - Quote
Fractal Muse wrote:Debra Tao wrote:
I actually try to demonstrate that this is a scam and why it is oh so suspicious.
To me it's mostly suspicious because of the 'lock-in' periods for the 'investments.' The moment an 'investment' has any kind of 'incentive' or penalty to remain invested for more than a month and reoccurring then that screams ponzi scheme. The extra complexity to how this 'investment' vehicle is set up and how it presents itself is almost a perfect example of ponzi scheme. Now, does that mean that this -is- one? No, it doesn't it just really looks like one, acts like one, and reads like one but it might not be one. For people who are investing they are deciding if the risk is worth it. Clearly, to them, it is worth the risk of losing everything. A good ponzi scheme will run for months to build up a good reputation and a lot of investments before it pulls the plug.
Objective post here.
Also, there hasnt been a legit investment that follows this model on a large scale. All of them have turned out to be pnzi schemes. |
Molic Blackbird
Orion Faction Industries
Orion Consortium
62
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Posted - 2013.01.15 00:28:00 -
[204] - Quote
clamslayer wrote:
Eve history has shown this again and again. there hasnt been an exception, and it isnt going to be Josh.
That is completely false. There have been lots of large scale investments without collateral throughout the history of Eve that have not scammed.
BSAC, BMBE, Proton Power has run several, Akita T ran one... Those are just the ones I can think of the top of my head. If I looked into it, I could find many many more.
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clamslayer
White Collar Cartel
57
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Posted - 2013.01.15 00:31:00 -
[205] - Quote
Every One wrote:Greetings
I don't want this to sound wrong or anything, it has nothing to do with the guys spamming scam all over the place.
So, I would like some sort of API to check the sums that flood your wallet. I don't want any materials, character names, nufin, nor do I need to see player donations.
Just the sums.
Think you can provide that to me? As I trusted you with my money you could trust me with total confidentiality from my part. Divulging information? Ain't nobody got time for that!
Thanks.
Atleast this way you will know how much isk you got **** out of compared to everyone else haha |
clamslayer
White Collar Cartel
57
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Posted - 2013.01.15 00:34:00 -
[206] - Quote
Molic Blackbird wrote:clamslayer wrote:
Eve history has shown this again and again. there hasnt been an exception, and it isnt going to be Josh.
That is completely false. There have been lots of large scale investments without collateral throughout the history of Eve that have not scammed. BSAC, BMBE, Proton Power has run several, Akita T ran one... Those are just the ones I can think of the top of my head. If I looked into it, I could find many many more.
Define large scale. I'm talking about 100 billion and up.
Also, i failed to mention that i was talking about offering from players like Josh who have no proven track record, not players like Akita T who do.
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Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Alzhara Industries
Beacon Light Alliance
81
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Posted - 2013.01.15 00:42:00 -
[207] - Quote
Every One wrote:Greetings
I don't want this to sound wrong or anything, it has nothing to do with the guys spamming scam all over the place.
So, I would like some sort of API to check the sums that flood your wallet. I don't want any materials, character names, nufin, nor do I need to see player donations.
Just the sums.
Think you can provide that to me? As I trusted you with my money you could trust me with total confidentiality from my part. Divulging information? Ain't nobody got time for that!
Thanks.
Yes I can do that. The API is going to inherently divulge the identity of the character who does the majority of the trading though so there's really no way around that. As you have no interest in negative action toward me though I'm not concerned about divulging that to you. Please check your mail for all relevant information. If you want to confirm a lot of the data's profitability I'll need you to send me an email address and I can send the spreadsheets along with it so that you can make a simple comparison.
I reserve the right to release the information to others now as well who I currently do business with, but as their are obvious griefers and trolls who have nothing better to do than spam in my thread I won't be publically releasing it. |
Molic Blackbird
Orion Faction Industries
Orion Consortium
62
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Posted - 2013.01.15 00:43:00 -
[208] - Quote
clamslayer wrote:
Define large scale. I'm talking about 100 billion and up.
Also, I failed to mention that i was talking about offerings from players like Josh who have no proven track record, not players like Akita T who do.
I didn't realize Joshua was asking for over 100b ISK. BSAC was over 700b, BMBE is well over 100b. If you add enough qualifiers to your statement, it will eventually it will be true. |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
312
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Posted - 2013.01.15 00:51:00 -
[209] - Quote
There have been a few genuine investments.
However, as a ratio, controlling for scale or not, scams form the vast, vast majority.
Also, this is a scam. Once you've been around a while you'll notice patterns in the scams that give them away. This one has hit at least five, easily more if you really want to look for them I'm sure. |
Molic Blackbird
Orion Faction Industries
Orion Consortium
62
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Posted - 2013.01.15 01:11:00 -
[210] - Quote
As with any investment in Eve, if you think its a scam don't invest. No need to go out on a vendetta of claiming scam without any proof. I may have missed it in my reading of this thread, but I haven't seen anyone lay out a case for why they think this is a scam. The only argument I've seen is that all uncollateralized investments in the past have been scams, which is completely false.
For those that think this is a scam, lay out reasoned arguments for that claim. Stating this follows 5 past patterns of past scams and then not listing what those 5 items are isn't very effective in making the case that this one is a scam.
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