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Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
312
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Posted - 2013.01.15 01:17:00 -
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People are welcome to take it as they will.
If they are actually considering investing money that they spent hours grinding up, then i recommend they spend one hour going back over old scams to see if they recognize familiar aspects.
Also pretty sure you run or ran your own failed bond scam, so please share more of your insights. I'm all ears. |
clamslayer
White Collar Cartel
57
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Posted - 2013.01.15 01:18:00 -
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Molic Blackbird wrote:clamslayer wrote:
Define large scale. I'm talking about 100 billion and up.
Also, I failed to mention that i was talking about offerings from players like Josh who have no proven track record, not players like Akita T who do.
I didn't realize Joshua was asking for over 100b ISK. BSAC was over 700b, BMBE is well over 100b. If you add enough qualifiers to your statement, it will eventually be true.
These groups have track records unlike Josh?
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Candy Oshea
Techfree Investment Group
12
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Posted - 2013.01.15 01:20:00 -
[213] - Quote
clamslayer wrote: These groups have track records unlike Josh?
You must be new here |
clamslayer
White Collar Cartel
57
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Posted - 2013.01.15 01:21:00 -
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Molic Blackbird wrote:As with any investment in Eve, if you think its a scam don't invest. No need to go out on a vendetta of claiming scam without any proof. I may have missed it in my reading of this thread, but I haven't seen anyone lay out a case for why they think this is a scam. The only argument I've seen is that all uncollateralized investments in the past have been scams, which is completely false.
For those that think this is a scam, lay out reasoned arguments for that claim. Stating this follows 5 past patterns of past scams and then not listing what those 5 items are isn't very effective in making the case that this one is a scam.
Its obvious there is a relationship between you and josh, somone earlier mentioned it.
That said we all know that the majority of investment opportunities are scams per Eve history. |
clamslayer
White Collar Cartel
57
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Posted - 2013.01.15 01:22:00 -
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Varius Xeral wrote:People are welcome to take it as they will.
If they are actually considering investing money that they spent hours grinding up, then i recommend they spend one hour going back over old scams to see if they recognize familiar aspects.
Also pretty sure you run or ran your own failed bond scam, so please share more of your insights. I'm all ears.
Good post here |
Molic Blackbird
Orion Faction Industries Orion Consortium
62
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Posted - 2013.01.15 01:37:00 -
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clamslayer wrote: Its obvious there is a relationship between you and josh, somone earlier mentioned it.
That said we all know that the majority of investment opportunities are scams per Eve history.
There is no relationship between Joshua and myself. I have no ISK invested in this, Josh has no ISK invested with me. It's possible that I have bought or sold items from Josh, but I've done that with thousands of people in Eve. That doesn't mean I have a relationship.
It isn't true that the majority of investments are scams either. Someone did research on investments posted on this forum a few years ago and found most of those investments are not scams.
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Molic Blackbird
Orion Faction Industries Orion Consortium
62
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Posted - 2013.01.15 01:45:00 -
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Varius Xeral wrote:
Also pretty sure you run or ran your own failed bond scam, so please share more of your insights. I'm all ears.
LOL, I have not had any failed bonds or scams. I had a 30b ISK bond a year and a half ago that was collateralized. Everyone from that bond has been paid back in full. http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1546605
I have a 70b ISK bond currently running that is also collateralized. First interest payment went out last month and another one will be going out in the next few days. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=173720
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clamslayer
White Collar Cartel
57
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Posted - 2013.01.15 02:22:00 -
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Molic Blackbird wrote:clamslayer wrote: Its obvious there is a relationship between you and josh, somone earlier mentioned it.
That said we all know that the majority of investment opportunities are scams per Eve history.
There is no relationship between Joshua and myself. I have no ISK invested in this, Josh has no ISK invested with me. It's possible that I have bought or sold items from Josh, but I've done that with thousands of people in Eve. That doesn't mean I have a relationship. It isn't true that the majority of investments are scams either. Someone did research on investments posted on this forum a few years ago and found most of those investments are not scams.
It is true that you guys have a relationship, one of josh's buddies accidently told me about it. I have a screen shot of the convo, but its against the rules to post chat logs in any way.
It is a fact that the majority of uncollateralized investment opportunities are scams. |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
313
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Posted - 2013.01.15 02:30:00 -
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clamslayer wrote:It is a fact that the majority of uncollateralized investment opportunities are scams.
Vast majority.
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Molic Blackbird
Orion Faction Industries Orion Consortium
62
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Posted - 2013.01.15 04:33:00 -
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clamslayer wrote:
It is true that you guys have a relationship, one of josh's buddies accidently told me about it. I have a screen shot of the convo, but its against the rules to post chat logs in any way.
It is not true. I've talked with Josh in a public chat channel. That is the extent of my relationship with him. I have no idea what sort of relationship you are hinting at exists. I'm communicating with you in this forum, does that mean we now have some sort of secret relationship?
Quote:It is a fact that the majority of uncollateralized investment opportunities are scams.
You've gone from all such invents are ponzi schemes to just the majority are. Research done on investments offered on this forum: http://eve-search.com/thread/1392810-0
Of the investments offered in that research period, 90% were successful.
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Debra Tao
Perkone Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2013.01.15 04:36:00 -
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Molic Blackbird wrote:
It is not true. I've talked with Josh in a public chat channel. That is the extent of my relationship with him. I have no idea what sort of relationship you are hinting at exists. I'm communicating with you in this forum, does that mean we now have some sort of secret relationship?
Are you implying what i think you are implying ? |
Razor Rocker
Ellis Research
33
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Posted - 2013.01.15 04:52:00 -
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Myself and a few of the others who have invested heavily into Josh's bond have received 3 full APIs for each of his accounts to prove his legitimacy.
Now first off a bit of a disclaimer: I'm by no means a master auditor, and APIs are by default limited due to how far back you can go in the transaction info. But if this is a scam, he is doing one hell of a job at covering it up. I obviously wont go into detail, but it seems his operation is profitable, and much less time intensive than I had anticipated.
I'll wait in anticipation for the others to review the APIs.
-Razor
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Keaton DuCasse
KdC Enterprise
15
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Posted - 2013.01.15 05:08:00 -
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Received 3 API-¦s and some more details. Will try to catch a fast overview after work today GÿàGÿàGÿà retired-á GÿàGÿàGÿà |
Every One
Big Diggers C0NVICTED
76
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Posted - 2013.01.15 07:11:00 -
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Molic Blackbird wrote:Varius Xeral wrote: Also pretty sure you run or ran your own failed bond scam, so please share more of your insights. I'm all ears.
Everyone from that bond has been paid back in full. Then send me the isk :(
But yeah, thanks for the API Josh. I'll look over it in the next few days. At least now if there's any possibility that I lose my money it's gonna be my fault, I can live with that
Bunnieeesss |
clamslayer
White Collar Cartel
57
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Posted - 2013.01.15 07:14:00 -
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Josh, how much would i have to invest to look over your APIs? |
Every One
Big Diggers C0NVICTED
76
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Posted - 2013.01.15 07:17:00 -
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clamslayer wrote:Josh, how much would i have to invest to look over your APIs? You represent a danger to this investment. If it was up to me, I wouldn't accept your isk.
Also.....post #200. |
Keaton DuCasse
KdC Enterprise
15
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Posted - 2013.01.15 08:12:00 -
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In short (after a very very very fast overview)
3 API-¦s 9 Charakters - 7 dedicated PI-Chars (some still training), 1 Trader, Joshua
Total Balance: 19b ISK Assests: 34.5b ISK Buyorders: 54b ISK Sells: 360m
Outstanding courier contracts to Red Frog = 21 +í 860.000m-¦ (est total 18.000.000 m-¦)
I found large ammounts of Ice-Products and Fuelblock
Good trade volume and activity
So ... he-¦s doing things like stated. GÿàGÿàGÿà retired-á GÿàGÿàGÿà |
Azerath
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.01.15 08:48:00 -
[228] - Quote
Current Investments Available: 14,642,147,400 ISK
I'm presuming you are still taking more investments?
It's been awhile since I've dipped in... dam Ebank/Dbank -.-
If so please send me an ingame message and perhaps I can fill some gap(s)
Thank you, Aze |
clamslayer
White Collar Cartel
57
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Posted - 2013.01.15 09:01:00 -
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You have to run the numbers. It will be a pain in the ass, but you have to run them to see if the income is there to pay interest and some. He could be banking on you guys not digging because you see the API release as a step of good faith.
Make sure he isnt bluffing, run the numbers.
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Anne Mar
Oververse Inc
1
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Posted - 2013.01.15 19:29:00 -
[230] - Quote
How do I get a special relationship with Molic or JVL? :D |
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Grimnir
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.01.15 23:01:00 -
[231] - Quote
clamslayer wrote:Josh, how much would i have to invest to look over your APIs?
Gentlemen, its important to get updated APIs.
Wait ... I thought you'd already invested 5bn ?
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Kaiser Krieg
Allied Tactical Squadron
0
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Posted - 2013.01.17 13:31:00 -
[232] - Quote
300 million sent. Class I/ Option A.
Thanks. |
Azerath
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.01.17 22:25:00 -
[233] - Quote
Haven't seen him in a couple days... is money sent directly to the toon or corp?
Thanks, Aze |
Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Alzhara Industries Beacon Light Alliance
81
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Posted - 2013.01.18 01:18:00 -
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Azerath wrote:Haven't seen him in a couple days... is money sent directly to the toon or corp?
Thanks, Aze
Yeah sorry about that. I've tried to contact you in-game but we seem to keep missing one another. Anyway deposits are sent to me. To complete the transfer however you need to also post in this thread the value of said deposit and the account preference. I do it this way so that I have an additional record to refer to in case I have any issues.
Thank you,
J.V. Lampen |
Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Alzhara Industries Beacon Light Alliance
81
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Posted - 2013.01.18 01:37:00 -
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Announcement: New Deposit Investor: Kaiser Krieg Type of Investment: Private Date of Investment: 16 JAN 2013 Date of Return/Interest Payments: 16 FEB 2013 Value of Investment: 300M Account Balance: 300M Type of Account: Class I/A - Complex Rollover Interest Rate: 7% Interest Return Every 30 Days: 21M to investor's account
Screen Capture of ISK Transfer to Joshua Vaughn Lampen:
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg46/jvlampen/Eve%20Investment%20Records%20-%20Lampen/KaiserKriegInvestment_zpsfef304c6.png
Thank you for your investment and should you have any questions please feel free to message me in-game or through this post. |
Azerath
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.01.18 04:42:00 -
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100 million sent. Class I Option B.
We'll start small and see how things go from there :)
Thanks,
Aze |
Erialor Godsent
Federal Navy Support Divison
1
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Posted - 2013.01.18 18:58:00 -
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Azerath wrote:100 million sent. Class I Option B.
We'll start small and see how things go from there :)
Thanks,
Aze
Same for me please :) |
Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Alzhara Industries Beacon Light Alliance
81
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Posted - 2013.01.19 00:46:00 -
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Announcement: New Deposits Investor: Azerath / Erialor Godsent Type of Investment: Private Date of Investment: 18 JAN 2013 Date of Return/Interest Payments: 18 FEB 2013 Value of Investment: 100M / 100M Account Balance: 100M / 100M Type of Account: Class I/B - Complex Rollover Interest Rate: 7% Interest Return Every 30 Days: 7M to Investor / 7M to Investor
Screen Capture of ISK Transfer to Joshua Vaughn Lampen:
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg46/jvlampen/AzerathandErialorDeposits_zps787001b3.png
Thank you for your investments and should you have any questions please feel free to message me in-game or through this post. |
Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Alzhara Industries Beacon Light Alliance
81
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Posted - 2013.01.19 03:03:00 -
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It's been brought to my attention that a number of people have been trying to pose as me through various alts. I only conduct business on this character and all transactions must be posted in this thread as well. If someone messages you posing as me they are obviously not me so do not conduct business with them under the premise that I am associated with it.
- J.V. Lampen |
Ana Rexic
Unified Combatants Pwnasaurus.
1
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Posted - 2013.01.20 16:15:00 -
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I would like to add 100 mil to my current account.
Thank you for the continued service.
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