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Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
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Posted - 2012.12.15 02:45:00 -
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Well I am bowing out of CSM politics.
I started this path figuring out that the CSM elections were really easy to rig, to show this I got the person on a list I found, they were at the bottom of it, they are now on the CSM.
I used an idea from south park on conspiracy theories.
At the same time I have argued, bitched and gripped that the potential voters just need better education and that the CSM is not really just for Null sec.
But after this year through which we have gotten some cool stuff for mining, better barges and a new frig and some cool FW stuff, every thing has just turned back to the normal CSM perspective of give Null sec everything and the rest of the game can go to hell. If you disagree let the future prove me wrong.
So I am joining the non-voting ranks and have actually gone over to the "The CSM is just for Null group"
Frankly I would be happier if we did not have a CSM, after all I would not like to think that CCP thought that the majority of those people were in any way shape or form representative of were I would like to see the future of the game.
Oh but I would vote for "Disband the CSM", the best possible use of voting rights.
Well back to your usual Null sec propaganda speech. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
1009
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Posted - 2012.12.15 05:32:00 -
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Cool. Thanks for announcing your intent to not vote, thus making it even easier for the CSM to be a null oriented group.
Because, y'know, that's why it's apparently so null oriented, right? Ten thousand goons hold a lot of power when the total voting pool is only like 50-60 thousand people.
If your problem was really that you think it's a null oriented group, you'd be doing everything you could to get more people to vote instead of going home like a petulant child. This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
679
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Posted - 2012.12.15 06:47:00 -
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http://i.imgur.com/L86oE.jpg "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
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Posted - 2012.12.15 07:12:00 -
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corestwo wrote:Cool. Thanks for announcing your intent to not vote, thus making it even easier for the CSM to be a null oriented group.
Because, y'know, that's why it's apparently so null oriented, right? Ten thousand goons hold a lot of power when the total voting pool is only like 50-60 thousand people.
If your problem was really that you think it's a null oriented group, you'd be doing everything you could to get more people to vote instead of going home like a petulant child. If you had not noticed besides the usual people only a handful of people contributed to this summit's documents.
NO ONE CARES.
If you look at past threads to do with summits they were a lot more spirited by the regulars as well as the rest of the forum community. This time you can hear the crickets.
Frankly I like the idea of being part of the 80%+ of EvEs population that do not want to vote as then CCP might get it into their heads that the views of The Null Sec Lobby group represent EvE.
Oh and thanks Snow Axe, I liked the picture.
Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.12.15 08:22:00 -
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bye Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
2580
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Posted - 2012.12.15 09:23:00 -
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Get out.
Torn from grace, gotta find your faith or the devils gonna claim your soul
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Disband the CSM
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Posted - 2012.12.15 17:28:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote: Oh but I would vote for "Disband the CSM", the best possible use of voting rights.
Thanks, YO!
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Noisrevbus
315
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Posted - 2012.12.15 18:10:00 -
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Something i've never understood when it comes to like seclusionists like you, the OP, is how you can never see that "nullsec" players generally visit all security statuses of the game and interact with the content there, while you do not. They may not spend as much time in empire (or whatever bridge you dwell under) as you do, but they do play there - while you choose not to play in "nullsec". The "agenda" of any "nullsec" player, as such, tend to be far more responsible and attentative to the whole game than any player who choose to just participate in one tiny slice of what this game have to offer. Broad perspectives are absolutely what we need, not narrowminded bigots.
Good riddance. |
raskonalkov
Tie Fighters Inc
29
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Posted - 2012.12.16 08:59:00 -
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But Frying your gonna miss out on all the overly technical bullshit during every CSM election if you quit now.
Won't you miss the trolling? |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
5511
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Posted - 2012.12.18 07:40:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:
Oh but I would vote for "Disband the CSM", the best possible use of voting rights.
"I don't want to bother putting in as much effort and organisation as the other kids so they shouldn't even be allowed to play their stupid game that I don't even want to play because it's stupid so no one else should be allowed to play it I HATE YOU ALL I'M GOING HOME."
You were never "in" 'CSM politics'. You just yelled at people. And now you're going to shut up?
I bet you can't even commit to doing that for a full week. MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
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raskonalkov
Tie Fighters Inc
29
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Posted - 2012.12.18 11:22:00 -
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^ Sounds like CSM politics. |
GallowsCalibrator
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.12.18 13:18:00 -
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Bye bye!
(PS: Your posts are terrible, you are not a magnificent puppetmaster, :getout: ) |
Seleene
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
2182
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Posted - 2012.12.19 17:03:00 -
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This makes me sad because I like watching you argue with Snow Axe all the time. CSM 7 Chairman My Blog - Where I say stuff Follow Seleene on Twitter! |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.12.20 19:01:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Well I am bowing out of CSM politics.
Borderline psychotic turboposting does not make you part of "CSM politics". |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
1021
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Posted - 2012.12.20 21:15:00 -
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Varius Xeral wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Well I am bowing out of CSM politics. Borderline psychotic turboposting does not make you part of "CSM politics". Ok this one I like
I must thank Lord Zim and Snow Axe as well as other members of Goonswarm, for teaching me this style of posting. It has been a lot of fun.
I do have two questions not being from the United States where so many of the CSM are from.
How many members of the current CSM are from the USA and do you have a strong union movement there?
Just curious you see things on TV but most TV is biased one way or the other.
Again thanks Goonswarm and others its been fun
Oh and yes I will miss the trolling Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
3444
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Posted - 2012.12.20 21:24:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:If you had not noticed besides the usual people
...who aren't all from 0.0. Two step, Aleks, Trebor, myself, all represent players outside 0.0 and were heavily involved in the document we submitted to CCP before the summit, which is remarkably similar to their own approach they will be sharing with the public very soon.
No one's buying the whiny, dishonest bullshit. You do the community a disservice by keeping this nonsense up. Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
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Posted - 2012.12.20 21:31:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Frying Doom wrote:If you had not noticed besides the usual people ...who aren't all from 0.0. Two step, Aleks, Trebor, myself, all represent players outside 0.0 and were heavily involved in the document we submitted to CCP before the summit, which is remarkably similar to their own approach they will be sharing with the public very soon. No one's buying the whiny, dishonest bullshit. You do the community a disservice by keeping this nonsense up. So your detailed plans for letting Null sec grow without killing Hi-sec or making Null more for filling without rewarding Null players at a rate higher than those in Wormholes are?
But honestly Hans, do as you will and I will leave the whiny, dishonest bullshit to you. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
687
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Posted - 2012.12.20 21:33:00 -
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5 whole days. Must have been tough. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
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Posted - 2012.12.20 21:41:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:5 whole days. Must have been tough. It was but I couldn't let a Hans comment like that go free.
But anyway, so long and thanks for all the fish. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
687
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Posted - 2012.12.20 21:48:00 -
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Bye! See you next election when you return to nearly destroy someone's campaign and then take credit for it's success in spite of you. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
3446
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Posted - 2012.12.20 21:50:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Snow Axe wrote:5 whole days. Must have been tough. It was but I couldn't let a Hans comment like that go free. But anyway, so long and thanks for all the fish.
ta-ta! Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
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Posted - 2012.12.21 00:58:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Bye! See you next election when you return to nearly destroy someone's campaign and then take credit for it's success in spite of you. I look forward to seeing a CSM top 7 with nothing but Goonswarm. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2012.12.21 04:00:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Frying Doom wrote:If you had not noticed besides the usual people ...who aren't all from 0.0. Two step, Aleks, Trebor, myself, all represent players outside 0.0 and were heavily involved in the document we submitted to CCP before the summit, which is remarkably similar to their own approach they will be sharing with the public very soon. No one's buying the whiny, dishonest bullshit. You do the community a disservice by keeping this nonsense up. So your detailed plans for letting Null sec grow without killing Hi-sec or making Null more for filling without rewarding Null players at a rate higher than those in Wormholes are? But honestly Hans, do as you will and I will leave the whiny, dishonest bullshit to you.
FFS! This again.
If you are talking about the strategic planning document, the whole master plan there was, "Work on big things AND small things, you can even group them together with a theme!"
They gave some possible examples that were all null sec related that was admittedly probably a tactical error on their part, but it wasn't the thrust of the document.
Take off your tinfoil hat and reread it and you may be enlightened. (Or you are aware and choosing to ignore, in which the dishonest BS charge Hans levelled at you is on the mark.) EVE is a sandbox; The only "end-game" content in EVE is the crap that makes you rage-quit.
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raskonalkov
Tie Fighters Inc
29
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Posted - 2012.12.21 05:13:00 -
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^ True no reason to get angry at that CSM letter, with ways to improve null sec.
None of those ideas are feasible so there is no reason to get angry.
It is just mean, Frying, to not let null sec have their imaginations and overly idealistic goals. If they had a chance of getting much, you might be true frying doom. But you should have a heart towards them, all they have is their dreams and you should be careful about treading, since you can tread on them.
They can't really nerf your hi sec POS, they can only dream about nerfing your hi sec POS. And isn't that the most precious of all? |
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
826
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Posted - 2012.12.21 07:06:00 -
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Yes, everything in every example was for 0.0 only. Better POS, better mining, removing T2 production bottle necks, these are exclusively null sec things. Totes...
But even if we assume Frying Doom is wearing that shiny hat for a reason:
Instead of taking the fact that the four most prominent non-sov-nullsec reps (me, Two Step, Hans, Trebor) put an emphasis on null sec related development because null sec hasn't had a dedicated expansion in 3 years (and the one they did get was a FWesque half-release that CCP never fleshed out), Frying is so committed to his opinion that he'd rather insist the four of us are actually nullsec alliance guys.
Also, OP is a week old and he's still posting.
Frying: is there someone we can call for you? A family member or counselor maybe? "Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart."-á -Arydanika, Voices from the Void
CSM7 rep, CSM 4 vet Noir./Noir. Academy Recruiting: www.noirmercs.com |
raskonalkov
Tie Fighters Inc
30
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Posted - 2012.12.21 07:38:00 -
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^ I wish, just helping out null sec or giving them an expansion, was just that, giving them an expansion.
Seems like null sec spills out of null sec too often. Suppose why Frying and others are wary of buffing them.
I mean if you buff null or give them an expansion, they will just spill out of null with their new toys, and attack hi seccers or who ever they want to.
Two step might be able to explain to us, why Wormhole people don't spill out of wormholes. ( I heard there are alliance in them that attack carebears in wormholes, but they never spill out of them.)
Of course this might just be a goon problem or something. Most alliance to my knowledge in null like to stay in null and annoy the people there only. (Someone can correct me if wrong) (Or don't correct me, would be fun to start a thread saying null will never be buffed, because of goons, since they spill out and scam everyone.) ( Of course, goons, know this already, that is why they are gobbling up the moons.) ( They suspect CCP will never buff them, cause of their backward ways, so they will go ahead and buff themselves, then finally spill out of null for the last time, to bring destruction and ruin to everyone.)
Everyone fears PL, rightly so, but all they do is gank carebears in capitals and supers, not spill into hi sec. So with them only taking their ganking capabilities into stock is needed for a null sec expansion.
Kelduum is great as a hi sec representative, but too slow, It will take years before his army of carebears are ready. And Issler is too successfull and not weak enough to be a hi sec representative.
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raskonalkov
Tie Fighters Inc
30
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Posted - 2012.12.21 07:41:00 -
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In null now, one is not allowed to sell supers to the enemy. That is all I am saying really. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
5550
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Posted - 2012.12.21 08:32:00 -
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raskonalkov wrote:^ I wish, just helping out null sec or giving them an expansion, was just that, giving them an expansion.
Seems like null sec spills out of null sec too often. Suppose why Frying and others are wary of buffing them.
I mean if you buff null or give them an expansion, they will just spill out of null with their new toys, and attack hi seccers or who ever they want to.
Two step might be able to explain to us, why Wormhole people don't spill out of wormholes. ( I heard there are alliances in them that attack carebears in wormholes, but they never spill out of them.)
Of course this might just be a goon problem or something. Most alliance to my knowledge in null like to stay in null and annoy the people there only. (Someone can correct me if wrong) (Or don't correct me, would be fun to start a thread saying null will never be buffed, because of goons, since they spill out and scam everyone.) ( Of course, goons, know this already, that is why they are gobbling up the moons.) ( They suspect CCP will never buff them, cause of their backward ways, so they will go ahead and buff themselves, then finally spill out of null for the last time, to bring destruction and ruin to everyone.)
Everyone fears PL, rightly so, but all they do is gank carebears in capitals and supers, not spill into hi sec. So with them only taking their ganking capabilities into stock is needed for a null sec expansion.
Kelduum is great as a hi sec representative, but too slow, It will take years before his army of carebears are ready. And Issler is too successfull and not weak enough to be a hi sec representative.
Do you even read what you're writing?
You're seriously opposing a nullsec fix because dem uppity nullsec boys dare to come into decent people's space? And you think that people who want to be in null will spend even more time in hisec if CCP make null better?
What? MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
33
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Posted - 2012.12.21 08:47:00 -
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Also, one of the oft-cited benefits of WHs is having cycling access to all kinds of others people's space to **** on them from, so really an awful argument through and through. |
raskonalkov
Tie Fighters Inc
30
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Posted - 2012.12.21 09:01:00 -
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^ Only small things use that though. Nothing really exciting. |
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